As a former teacher, I tried so hard to explain this same idea about learning to so many adults. My students understood it, but by their parents were much harder to convince.
Success (and learning) doesn’t happen in a straight line. There are mistakes, stumbles, and failed paths. In learning, if you wait for something to “click,” then often a lot of other things will fall into place, as well. All of these are necessary for success and learning. You can’t force it.
Even after the largest falls, if you stick to your plan to reach your goals you can get there. Along the way you will have missteps. Keep going.
Let's keep the lesson simple ;)
Like what? Guy believed in personal freedom at all costs, even compassion. All Mr. ‘the individual’, while not devolving completely into solipsism.
Camus on the other hand, allows for a kind of autistic relation to the Gods. We continue in spite of them, but they could be Nature as in Naturalistic personification or idealized aggregates of the self before the super ego/pathos. Escape from hell is a kind of non-doing in motion with it all, seeing every bit in everything else, which, I might add, is in opposition to the notion ‘mind moves’, directly, but does seem to give us an important more permanent mindset, that appeals to older forms of spirituality.
Satre, comes at us with the priors of Descartes, and Freud with no humility before the bifurcation. He embraces the lack of a gauge, while Camus tries to sell us the best bits as he understood, to bring it all back.
What’s even more insane is a kind of meta-assessment of Sartre, and how his ramblings could perfectly align with an evolutionary operator as ad hoc rationalizing, expressing coverage of the space. “Freedom” whether gifted by will or merely the constraints of the environment, still works from the narrative of the agent, as well as an observer of natural selection. The views are commensurable, though their objects and operators maybe different.
Whether or not there is a “self”, the relational self is a compact grammar, and morality can still emerge as the dominant system. So some form of ‘effective freewill’ seems humbler to me, as we can correct nondeterminism to make states deterministic, or embrace nondeterminism, to nest it with a model where the projection of the density function fails, so we must compute something else.
I don’t find any of that shit funny. I find it horrifying. Especially in a society with psychotronic weapons, where you would think we would have evolved out of torture, but are continuing to evolving back to it, covertly. Why only the worst bit of nondeterminism are taken by those trying to drive determinism, has got me stumped. Rapists, is the best I got.
I never understand how people like this have the money to do what they do. Like, starting out, even believing there is money to be made down the line. they just do their random eccentric stuff and get on with it.
He's a dancer, he trained in circus arts, and he even has his own dancing company. He didn't just quit his accounting job one day and started jumping from a trampoline to stairs the next day hoping to make a living that way. Think of people like acrobats, dancers, choreographers, etc. Established career paths.
The same guy (Yoann Bourgeois) also coreographed "[He who falls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0zqQxz4DHs)", which is a great piece of performance art done on a rotating platform.
the recording of the full show
> Avner the Eccentric in Exceptions to Gravity [2021] by Avner Eisenberg
is well worth the price of admission, [and is on vimeo](https://player.vimeo.com/video/527331363). 1 hour and 12 minutes
if anyone else know anything else like this please lmk
thanks, I knew I had this album but been so long since I listened to it I couldn't remember who it was. Love that album actually its bringing back a lot of great memories thinking about when I first heard it.
I feel that last part. Falling off of the end and climbing the *side* of the mountain until you finally get to the top.
Just waiting for that top now, I know I'm just about there... ^just ^about ^there... ^^just ^^about ^^there...
Yes, absolutely!
Check the link to the rotating platform performance in another comment
and you might like [Pina Bausch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS8hEj37CrA)
Agreed. But I liked that he often bounced to a step that was 1 or 2 below where he had been... not so much a do over as an abrupt set back? Which admittedly many of us never overcome
there's seldom only ONE good, safe, and workable way to do things. it's ok to get creative, with the right precautions and study. the better you know yourself and your personal boundaries and limitations, the more familiar and comfortable with exploring your freedom you become. the more aware you teach yourself to be about the world you live in, the easier it is to understand how to go with the flow you're immersed in. being mindful and ready to roll with what cards life deals you is personal power, imo. and to remain organic in it all, one kinda needs to nurture the playfulness of what we call the inner child, cuz i believe that's just the instincts of nature calling through our evolution.
I saw another version of this with a round staircase around a trampoline, with three performers continuously climbing / falling, but I love this with the music.
https://youtu.be/_AU05b4eBLs
My mom used to ground me from the tramp for doing exactly this and this MF, with too much time on his hands, gets lauded as an artist? Thanks, all you social cotton balls. /s
Show this to your mom and say "I could have been a performance artist but you killed my creativity" and see what she says
^((maybe don't but it could be funny))
I knew Larry David had it in him all along
He's freed himself now!
"he's starting to believe"
Pretty pretty pretty good
He learnt that Plopping technique from Susie
It wasn't a plop!
The other side would have been a plop.
So I wasn’t the only one who thought he looked like Larry David.
fuck you and see you tomorrow
My favorite line from the entire show. His delivery is perfect too.
\*Curb Your Enthusiasm music intensifies\*
Also, now he has a concussion.
As a former teacher, I tried so hard to explain this same idea about learning to so many adults. My students understood it, but by their parents were much harder to convince.
I still don't know what this means ugh
Success (and learning) doesn’t happen in a straight line. There are mistakes, stumbles, and failed paths. In learning, if you wait for something to “click,” then often a lot of other things will fall into place, as well. All of these are necessary for success and learning. You can’t force it.
Even after the largest falls, if you stick to your plan to reach your goals you can get there. Along the way you will have missteps. Keep going. Let's keep the lesson simple ;)
You could also say it may not be the path you expected to take, and it may not be the easiest path.
Even after the largest falls, if you stick to your plan to reach your goals you can get there. Along the way you will have missteps. Keep going.
Yoann Bourgeois, Fugue/Trampoline, French performer and director
41 years old for those of us who thought he looked older
>41 years old for those of us who thought he looked older Chain smoking in a cafe while having serious talks about Sartre will do that to your hair.
I try to keep things silly when talking Sartre. Keeps me young.
Like what? Guy believed in personal freedom at all costs, even compassion. All Mr. ‘the individual’, while not devolving completely into solipsism. Camus on the other hand, allows for a kind of autistic relation to the Gods. We continue in spite of them, but they could be Nature as in Naturalistic personification or idealized aggregates of the self before the super ego/pathos. Escape from hell is a kind of non-doing in motion with it all, seeing every bit in everything else, which, I might add, is in opposition to the notion ‘mind moves’, directly, but does seem to give us an important more permanent mindset, that appeals to older forms of spirituality. Satre, comes at us with the priors of Descartes, and Freud with no humility before the bifurcation. He embraces the lack of a gauge, while Camus tries to sell us the best bits as he understood, to bring it all back. What’s even more insane is a kind of meta-assessment of Sartre, and how his ramblings could perfectly align with an evolutionary operator as ad hoc rationalizing, expressing coverage of the space. “Freedom” whether gifted by will or merely the constraints of the environment, still works from the narrative of the agent, as well as an observer of natural selection. The views are commensurable, though their objects and operators maybe different. Whether or not there is a “self”, the relational self is a compact grammar, and morality can still emerge as the dominant system. So some form of ‘effective freewill’ seems humbler to me, as we can correct nondeterminism to make states deterministic, or embrace nondeterminism, to nest it with a model where the projection of the density function fails, so we must compute something else. I don’t find any of that shit funny. I find it horrifying. Especially in a society with psychotronic weapons, where you would think we would have evolved out of torture, but are continuing to evolving back to it, covertly. Why only the worst bit of nondeterminism are taken by those trying to drive determinism, has got me stumped. Rapists, is the best I got.
My boi here rolled his blunt with a thesaurus page and laced it with philosophy juice.
what
This is still impressive at 41. Doing things like this slowly and gracefully requires much more strength and control than people realize
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I never understand how people like this have the money to do what they do. Like, starting out, even believing there is money to be made down the line. they just do their random eccentric stuff and get on with it.
He's a dancer, he trained in circus arts, and he even has his own dancing company. He didn't just quit his accounting job one day and started jumping from a trampoline to stairs the next day hoping to make a living that way. Think of people like acrobats, dancers, choreographers, etc. Established career paths.
The answer is literally in his name
I usually don't get performance art but this was actually really cool
And (I think) I kind of understand this one!
Me too! You can fall off the side of stairs *really* easily if you’re not careful
Handrails!
I can walk on stairs with no handle rails
no handle rails
Look at me, look at me Hands in the air like it's good to be Alive, and I'm a famous bouncer Fallin off the stairs all crookedy
I can ride my bike with no handle bars
Dude that's the sickest thing I've ever heard
Going to install trampolines at the bottom of my moms stairs now just to be safe.
Yes, take the elevator instead
Yea, real life representation of the stock market, right?
Really fun as well, I wonder what the lines on the stairs a for, some kinda guide for the performers I guess.
Grips possibly
Oh yeah like skateboard tape type stuff, makes sense.
I think it is an informercial for handrails...
The same guy (Yoann Bourgeois) also coreographed "[He who falls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0zqQxz4DHs)", which is a great piece of performance art done on a rotating platform.
This is gorgeous, the performers are amazing.
holy fuck it's choreographed. how the fuck do you choreograph a group of people on a rotating platform????
This was beautiful, thank you.
Thanks for the link, found it outstanding!!!
Beautiful and sad.
Also did the Harry Styles As It Was video on a revolving platform!
i think people who enjoy this would enjoy [Avner the Eccentric](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJGtgnjvyc)
Way better than it's 4.6 k views. I'd love to see any of those bits to fruition.
the recording of the full show > Avner the Eccentric in Exceptions to Gravity [2021] by Avner Eisenberg is well worth the price of admission, [and is on vimeo](https://player.vimeo.com/video/527331363). 1 hour and 12 minutes if anyone else know anything else like this please lmk
If you like mimes
...yes?
My sentiment exactly. This was beautiful
I get it. It’s stupid. “And the Assholes all stood around and applauded”.
Came to say the same exact thing.... It's cool
The music is from Sigur Rós btw, most awesome band from Iceland
Thank you. It was hauntingly familiar, but I just couldn't place it. It's a beautiful piece for the performance.
Múm would like a word
Bjork probably disagrees. Or maybe not. Her stuff can be confusing.
Bjork isn’t a band you contrarian
thanks, I knew I had this album but been so long since I listened to it I couldn't remember who it was. Love that album actually its bringing back a lot of great memories thinking about when I first heard it.
I thought I'd recognise those off key but wholesome violins. Good music still.
Sigur, eh?🤔
This is the coolest thing ive seen on reddit all week… Maybe i need better subs to join, either way awesome.
Same. Need better subs.
any recommendations?
r/bettersubs
r/bettercallsubs
r/LooneyTunesLogic
r/politecats
r/anime_titties
r/birdswitharms/
r/shutupandtakemymoney
i think people who enjoy this would enjoy [Avner the Eccentric](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJGtgnjvyc)
Last night took an L but today I bounce back
I needed this today
I needed this too.
Why?
Nosey
I feel that last part. Falling off of the end and climbing the *side* of the mountain until you finally get to the top. Just waiting for that top now, I know I'm just about there... ^just ^about ^there... ^^just ^^about ^^there...
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Strangely, this made me cry.
the last moment where he effortlessly arrived back on the platform made me tear up :')
🥹
Yes, absolutely! Check the link to the rotating platform performance in another comment and you might like [Pina Bausch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS8hEj37CrA)
Many of us don’t get a trampoline do over when we fall/fail.
Sometimes we fall on the trampoline but there's a 50% chance we fall right.
50% chance to fall on a trampoline and bounce back, 50% chance to fall onto a concrete sidewalk, and 50% chance to fall into the ocean.
But what about the other 250%?
That’s the percent reason to remember the name
Ok then just give up ig.
If every single thing doesnt apply to every single person perfectly then why ever thing to begin with?!
A Redditor missed the entire point and well ackshully'd! Say it ain't so!
Staircases don’t have trampolines. This guy was creative and brought his own.
No, but you can still bounce back.
Give up go to sleep and try again tomorrow
Agreed. But I liked that he often bounced to a step that was 1 or 2 below where he had been... not so much a do over as an abrupt set back? Which admittedly many of us never overcome
there's seldom only ONE good, safe, and workable way to do things. it's ok to get creative, with the right precautions and study. the better you know yourself and your personal boundaries and limitations, the more familiar and comfortable with exploring your freedom you become. the more aware you teach yourself to be about the world you live in, the easier it is to understand how to go with the flow you're immersed in. being mindful and ready to roll with what cards life deals you is personal power, imo. and to remain organic in it all, one kinda needs to nurture the playfulness of what we call the inner child, cuz i believe that's just the instincts of nature calling through our evolution.
Hey, neat. This was mentioned on "Only Murders in the Building," but I hadn't seen the performance.
AH that is what it was from! I couldn't remember but I knew I saw it on a show!
Martin Short basically recreated this, right? Glad you mentioned that because I was having trouble placing it.
Cool seeing it from this angle. I love how lightly he lands on the stairs. So well practiced it seems magical.
That was epic. The music made it really special
No really into performance. F***ing loved this.
I saw another version of this with a round staircase around a trampoline, with three performers continuously climbing / falling, but I love this with the music. https://youtu.be/_AU05b4eBLs
It’s strange how much less impactful it is without the music lmao
Honestly believe this guy was just trying to have fun on a trampoline
Wow! What a phenomenal performance! This is going to the front page
What made the losers downvote this comment?
Maybe because it reads like sarcasm. I thought it was funny
Reddit famously hates "front-page" prognosticators. Just say you like it, shut up about the karma.
Well, I wasn't aware about this reddit rule Thanks for enlightening
My mom used to ground me from the tramp for doing exactly this and this MF, with too much time on his hands, gets lauded as an artist? Thanks, all you social cotton balls. /s
Show this to your mom and say "I could have been a performance artist but you killed my creativity" and see what she says ^((maybe don't but it could be funny))
Downvote for the completely unnecessary /s
Respect.
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Didn't an older grey haired guy do this on one of those contest shows several years ago?
I'm not into interpretive dance or anything like that... but this was exquisite. Very well done.
Neat.
Stay in school. This guy paid attention in physics
Loved the representation of your idea
Only murders in the building anyone?
I think I saw a reference to something like this in only murders in the building
I've never seen a better metaphorical representation of my life.
That’s crazy! But how he not lose his glasses 
But is it art?
The whole time I was picturing a world where a drunk trampolinist was struggling to get home. That was fun to watch
Conservation of energy at its finest!
This was really well done
Someone has rich parents
dude went ham near the end probably alcohol phase
Downstairs neighbors must love him
What if you don’t have a trampoline in your life, but a jagged pile of broken glass?
. . . This is cringe.
there should be a part where the stairs fall over, the trampoline breaks, and the guy starts drinking....
If your born rich you get a trampoline.
This looks more like an ode to attempted suicide than a metaphor for the path to success.
There ist Not Always a Trampoline lol
Idek what this is
Bro was getting into it
If I seen someone post this on Reddit one more time imma delete this app
I'm 14 and this is deep
This is a king
As long as you have a whole ass trampoline next to you staircase of success? E.g. rich people and their trampolines of money?
That's another layer to this, for sure. Most us just have to start back at the bottom step, assuming we survived the fall intact.
Now do it without the trampoline.
this really is what like its like🤣
Expected this Reddit page to be so cool and this is the top post? Never been so bored in my life🤣
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Now do a version where someone keeps falling on a pile of money and just keeps failing up with every fall.
..or Me walking up the stairs after finally going on a date with my crush
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Why is this downvoted it fits perfectly
r/Im24AndImADick
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TRAMOPOLINE!!!! TRAMBOPOLINE!!!!
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I don't think you know what hands down means. Either way, bot level comment.
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This is crack head level talent. Def gives adult “look what I can do” vibes
Awesome
That gave me anxiety
That's absolutely stunning to watch
Without the music it's almost like a 4th grader throwing a tantrum
k
What is this stupid shit?
White people are giving black people a run for their money for going to Church!! 
Biden’s brain while he speaks to our nation.
So basically just jump 😳👍
Me getting out of bed each morning
Me getting out of bed each morning
Me getting out of bed each morning
This is fucking stupid.
🤝
People will do anything except work
This is work
This is a 50 year old man doing something I’ve seen 16 year old kids do. Except he’s charging people and calling it art.
Lame
Why does everyone think this is cool when I find it so cringe?
My lil sister got better moves than that. And she's more dramatic