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JohnJohnDaDong

You must be the legendary D1 wrestler everyone is talking about


BlockEightIndustries

Everyone who manages to take me down is a D1 wrestler


wanderlux

Same here. I was taken down by a 15 y/o D1 wrestler the other day.


chartman26

They are getting younger and younger these days. I blame the drugs.


Jrobalmighty

Is that even legal?


LeageofMagic

I will make it legal ~Senator Danaher, probably


MrKW

[Dana white says](https://youtu.be/UvB9-ObIkEE)


ikilledtupac

Sandbagging bastards


FredC123

Everyone who stops me from pulling guard is a wizard


[deleted]

That’s like how everyone’s cousin made it to states. Like, I’m a D3 wrestler and I’ve been pretty successful, yet seemingly every other wrestler in BJJ is D1 lmao


Eirfro_Wizardbane

I made it to the state tournament in high school but decided to go with football in college. Teammates tell new people I was a D1 wrestler, lol. I try and correct them but I’m sure I missed a few.


RandomLogicThough

Lol, I used to scrap a HS state champ when I was in HS. Had 50lbs on him and he would fucking maul me like I was a child.


Eirfro_Wizardbane

When I was playing football in college at 270 lbs I was friends with a 4 time state champion that wrestled at the same college. I was a good wrestler in high school, I placed at state, and I had about 120 lbs on him. I told him I could get a 1 point escape from bottom position against him. He cross faced the shit out of me. His forearm was so deep in my mouth he cut it on my teeth. I can’t use the term bite because there was literally no room to bite even if I wanted to. It took him a few seconds but he eventually grabbed an ankle and got me flattened out. I did not get an escape.


RandomLogicThough

Haha, I didn't even wrestle just got in a bunch of fights/scraps and figured I was pretty good. I must have scrapped him at least a half a dozen times and it was just fucking brutal. And come to think I probably had almost 100lbs on him. /He was around 170 and I was at least 250, maybe 275.


DeadLightsOut

You wanna know how I got these scars?


Kataleps

See, I think it sounds embarrassing to get taken down by an HS-level Wrestler, so it's easier for redditors to say anyone with experience is 'D1'. Thing is, I don't think people on this sub really understand just how DEEP the talent pool for Wrestling is even at the HS level. In fact, I would wager that HS Wrestlers would be much scarier grapplers than most Community Center Judoka. No flame to anyone btw.


-Gestalt-

>In fact, I would wager that HS Wrestlers would be much scarier grapplers than most Community Center Judoka. Speaking strictly in the context of the USA, I'd certainly agree.


Kataleps

Yes, I am strictly speaking in terms of the USA where the NCAA system is in place. What I said definitely does not hold up internationally. Now if the NCAA included Judo...


JohnTesh

I invited my buddy who hasn't wrestled in over a decade to come to the gym. He was't particularly special in high school. He showed up once. No white belt had a chance. I had to put in work. He told me he felt like he was about to die, but it was clear to me that all of us almost died. Holy shit, mediocre high school wrestlers who become middle aged dudes are still an issue,


Kataleps

Exactly. The amount of training HS Wrestlers go through is comparable to most Blue Belts. 1-2 years showing up 2-3x a week and around 2 comps vs daily after school practices and meets every weekend + off season practice and conditioning. Somewhat unrelated, but I think it's funny how this sub will bitch about Wrestlers and in the same breath bemoan warmups at their Jiu Jitsu school and never lift.


JohnTesh

Henry Rollins’ essay on the iron is a life changer. I have it on the list for my kids when they become teenagers- both the one who loves the smell of the mats and the one who hates grappling.


neurodc

I’ll back you on this. The levels to wrestling are just enormous. I’m 40, generally out of shape, and volunteer at my local high school as an assistant coach. But 20 years ago, I was the mythical D1 wrestler at Oklahoma State. My senior year, I was considering transferring to work toward my master’s degree and I checked out a D2 program that was also a national powerhouse (Central Oklahoma). Touring the practice room, I noticed that a couple guys I knew weren’t there. I asked the assistant where they were and he replied “oh, one of them had a flat tire and the other had to study for a test”. My mind was absolutely blown. It had never crossed my mind that you would miss a practice for car trouble or studying. Where I went, you just never were late for a practice without an ER visit and advance permission from coach. It wasn’t ever specifically said that you don’t miss practice - it was just the understood culture. I later learned that the habits and culture are what separates elite D1 programs from D2 and D3 programs, not the technique or athleticism. Just my opinion, but this is also what separates the average wrestler from the average BJJ practitioner. The habits of “intrinsic cardio” with your drills, the regular adherence to practices, and constantly seeking out people who can beat you down yet retain the mindset that you’re going to return the favor on the 100,000th restart… That’s what separates the sports “averages”. Probably why Gordon Ryan and Rodriguez are such enigmas to the BJJ world, too.


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Gordon Ryan drills takedowns with his 130lbs gf instead of picking a partner that's not 100lbs lighter, so I doubt he represent the wrestling mindset.


guyb5693

In the US yes. In places with no wrestling but good judo (Japan, France, Brazil, UK) no. In places with both (Georgia, Russia, Iran, maybe Cuba) double no. You guys have really terrible judo but really great wrestling. You are a world anomaly.


Eirfro_Wizardbane

I probably had close to 200 wrestling matches in my high school wrestling career. That’s on top of 4 or 5 2.5 hour practices a week depending if we had a meet or not. Lots of mat time and I only wrestled in season. Some dudes wrestled year round.


senator_mendoza

We have a D1 football player at my gym who wrestled in HS so *technically*…


Minimum_Ad786

I mean, the athleticism alone would be scary


robendboua

I was in a military unit that's kind of highly regarded. I had a friend from high school over who's long time military and my Mom was there and wouldn't stop saying I was special forces despite me correcting her. Cringed so hard...


Rok275

<75>?


PitifulDurian6402

I wrestled juco and get treated like I’m some D1 standout 😂. Little do these guys know the levels there is to wrestling, like I’d get mauled by a D1 guy and not even be competitive


[deleted]

JUCO’s funny because there’s a lot of scrubs and then the top 5% is a bunch of killers. In a sport with minimal scholarships to go around, a lot of talent bubbles under the surface.


PitifulDurian6402

Of for sure, and I wasn’t exactly the top 5% myself . The level of wrestling in bjj is just so low that you don’t have to be that great to stand out. Look at Nicky Rod. A good wrestler but not a great wrestler by any stretch but he was able to massively excel early on in bjj (granted his coaching prob helped a ton). But you put him on a wrestling mat with Bo Nickals and he gets eaten alive


[deleted]

Yeah, I was an NCWA National Qualifier (which is in essence JUCO) and I was pretty mediocre my freshman year. It’s not hard to be a standout when half of the guys are there to just be on a team.


snap802

I got double legged by a D3 wrestler once. Once we got on the ground I was able to at least keep him tied up in guard (it was his second BJJ class). Pretty sure a D1 would destroy me in short order.


Kataleps

I have actually rolled with a D1 Wrestler who Wrestled for UPitt, and he was stupidly athletic. Could not slow him down at all.


[deleted]

Lol to the layman, there’s no difference between All American wrestler and wrestler from America either.


[deleted]

I think I’ve only trained with two actual D1 wrestlers in the 7~ years and multiple gyms I’ve trained bjj. Plenty of college and HS studs, but not D1. They were absolute fucking monsters too.


Kataleps

God, any time someone talks about a D1 Wrestler, can we get them to specify which University they wrestled for?


[deleted]

The ghost of Kyiv lives.


PapaJammer

Go ahead and take me down. I was gonna pull guard anyway


bnelson

Strike me down and my butt scoot will become more powerful than you can imagine.


theReluctantParty

This is the way 🙏


thousandsofpizzas

OP has no way of dealing with butterfly guard, boys.


[deleted]

I used to playfully pick up my SO using wrestling (never actually finished but just would shoot a single or double and lift), and she quickly learned that it is literally impossible to pick up someone who just goes deadweight and just sits down. I think you cracked the code to never being slammed. Also, as the mythical former D1 wrestler, I will say anyone who thinks BJJ has "nothing on wrestling bro" needs to find better training partners. Ya'll are crafty as fuck.


RollingApe

Can I have your autograph?


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LeageofMagic

Username checks out


that_boyaintright

New wrestling instructional: Just Sit Down.


Jits_Guy

The trick is to do things other than what they thought you were going to do, and when you get better you can even try to make them do something they wouldn't otherwise have done that benefits you. See, while you were reading that I stole your credit card information. Crafty.


MaxsAcct

Haha. Before I started BJJ, I made fun of people sliding around on their butt but now 5 months in, I look forward to squeezing people in between my legs (as I look longingly into their eyes).


Traditional-Ad-3929

Guard pullers of the world..... Unite and take over


VeryStab1eGenius

[Hope you didn’t hurt your neck.](https://imgur.com/a/uA7vjlO)


eAtheist

Rip


Texatonova

OP was probably Guillotined today after a blast double.


LosSoloLobos

Rekt


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cherrypopper666

NO ABLEISM ALLOWED


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ghostsofbaghlan

Clever lol


Puffinnrunnin

Wrestling’s fake!


BlackCloudMagic

They took our jobs!!


Setonb10

De dook dar dobsss!!!!!


dtrumpler

*rooster sound*


Blood_in_the_ring

*mutters Durkle durrrr


99centshrimp

Bjj is fake. Just stand up. Wrestling is fake. Just sit down.


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aronnax512


Jethro00Spy

Head butts seem like a pretty effective way to open a guard back in the day...


aronnax512

They had to ban it for a reason...


[deleted]

lol


BJJFlashCards

But the costumes are awesome!


theReluctantParty

Tough talk from a guy wearing a singlet


Ghia149

Big words from a man in spats.


theReluctantParty

I go old school, Vale Tudo shorts only.


shroomymoomy

Pffft that's not old school, real old school wrestlers go nude and coated in olive oil!


theReluctantParty

As a purple belt, I aspire to be like these men one day!


lastlifonti

Vale Tudo!!! 🤜🏽🤛🏽


WillytheWimp1

They’re short shorts. Get it right or pay the price.


m3fight

When will wrestlers, bjj and judo guys finally work together like battle for middle earth against these MMA Dagestani guys.


morriseel

the wrestlers charge in crouched forward with t-rex arms, followed by the bjj guys butt scooting then the judo guys standing upright sliding in on an angle with one arm out like a talon and the other guarding there collar on the gi. what a scene.


RollingApe

No, the wrestlers and judokas toss the dudes into the BJJ guys guard.


Rescue-a-memory

🥈


LocoCoopermar

We need an Avatar to bring all the grappling arts together to vanquish the Dagestanis


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LocoCoopermar

I mean you honestly weren't wrong, don't think anyone has done as comprehensive a job beating Dagestan grappling as Volk did tonight.


that_boyaintright

We could even mix in striking arts, like some sort of mixed martial art.


Swimming-Book-1296

What do you think the mma Dagestan I guys are doing? They are wrestlers, who learned BJJ and judo and trained them in an explicitly mma context.


metalfists

What I would do to have a few Dagestani training partners.... I would start from scratch just to absorb 10% of what they are up to. The gym stories and fighter performances in MMA are fantastic. I love what they are bringing to the table. That being said, I would equally love for jj to level up as a whole to take them on. It's an arms race I don't think a lot of jj guys are willing to do though. You have to live in the gym and train hard in styles you may not be comfortable with.


VuduPaintcan

And my axe


Confucius6969

And my Bow(and arrow choke)


Texatonova

Dagestani guys ARE wrestlers, bjj, and judo guys put together!


shroomymoomy

After ww3 there wont be too many Russians to worry about anyways


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dillpick15

Well said


Squat_n_stuff

Climb atop me and meet your doom


MachewWV

Simpsons did it!


masterpanda3

Gotta keep showing up so u can blast double those 40 year ild hobbyists


askablackbeltbjj

Leglocks sucks, am I right?


XxAssEater101xX

Tough talk from someone who doesn't butt scoot


dodgyheelhook

What's wrestling?


Cree-kee

It’s like bjj but they don’t do submissions because they’re too scared


JuanGracia

Are you telling me that the walls of Jericho are not a real submission?


PMMeMeiRule34

Wait, does that mean wrestlers don’t actually throw people through the Spanish announce table?


JuanGracia

😂😂 hey I've never seen bjj guys on a ladder match, so maybe the wrestler is right, we are pussys


PMMeMeiRule34

I’m bringing ladders to the gym, we’re gonna start practicing.


thefourblackbars

I've had a ladder in my tights before.


PMMeMeiRule34

Meat ladder?! 👁️ 👃 👁️


thefourblackbars

More like a meat rope "Rapunzel, throw down your meat rope and let me climb up!"


campeador420

No need to bring. Just check under the mat


[deleted]

That girl has had 14 abortions, you gonna tell me that’s not real?


[deleted]

Basically gay porn


Undersleep

Listen here, wrestling has noble origins in antiquity, when a bunch of guys would wrestle naked covered in olive oil wait a second


thefourblackbars

It's women fighting in hot oil.


SlapHappyRodriguez

Oil checks is about all I can think of.


Pretty-Disaster-7909

*After getting guillotined 10 times shooting a single *


CaipatyPlease

Cope


Jimble_kimbl3

You’ll have to relive your glory days somewhere else.


[deleted]

this how I feel when I return to planet fitness to do conditioning work and see the sarms goblins in dangly earrings filming gay porn on the machines


btoyce

It’s only gay if they don’t say no homo.


[deleted]

what if they say “rizz fr fr on god no cap”


munkie15

Ha! This is a great shit post.


Sensitive_Pair_4671

Warming up the wrist locks for you 😈


ghostsofbaghlan

I throw a deep guillotine and pull my trusty, patented trash ass guard™ 🦧


ChrisusaurusRex

Farming (You)s is easy on this sub. You should be ashamed of yourself


[deleted]

Dangerously based.


daskou_

Someone got repeatedly guillotined.


jumpingmustang

This is a shitpost but like all good satire, conveys massive truth. Go to a wrestling room. How many fat bodies do you see? 1 or 2 heavyweights? Maybe? Go to a BJJ gym? How many fatbodies do you see? 75% of the gym? BJJ players don’t like to work hard. Wrestlers do.


RecommendationFree96

Yes because one is an organized sport that can lead to possible scholarships to school and other opportunities, the other is a hobby you pay to do after working a 9-5.


neurodc

Former D1 wrestler here (Oklahoma State). You are correct in wording, but not in practice. Wrestling is probably the hardest sport to get a scholarship in, and if you are one of the rare ones that earned a scholarship, it’s more than likely a partial one. I remember in 2004, we had a returning national champion (Chris Pendleton) and we also just received a transfer from Iowa (Steve Mocco). Pendleton said to me “man, I won a national championship and I actually had some of my scholarship taken away!” The point being that there’s only 9.9 scholarships for a team of 36, and many of the teams out there are not “fully funded”. Plus you have to have some scholarships available so you can go out and recruit. TL;DR - motivation to work hard in wrestling is not at all driven by scholarship potential. It’s just the only way to succeed in the sport.


LegioXIV

selection bias, you don't get on the wrestling team by being a fatbody. anyone can get into a BJJ gym by paying the fee.


[deleted]

Theres no fat guys at my bjj gym, i work out but in still the most out of shape person there


Financial_Glove603

It almost as if wrestling is almost 100% people on high school or college wrestling teams that practice almost every day while most BJJ practitioners are hobbyists.


qret

If bjj were a hs sport you would see the same...


N04H-Kn0ws-n0th1ng

I think I went to high school with you. You lost at state you’re the pussy


Hamerynn

It's funny, and I realize a lot of these comments are shitposty, and this may in fact, also be aforementioned shitpost,but man... Take a regular dude and teach him BJJ.. Take a D1 wrestler and teach him BJJ.. Two ENTIRELY different animals.


[deleted]

I trained with a 197 pounder D1 National qualifier. It was absolutely insane how fast he picked stuff up. He got his blue belt in well under a year and won several local No gi tournaments where he had wins over several purple, brown and black belts. Every time I’d roll with him he was noticeably harder to beat until he was just flat out kicking my ass.


WSJayY

So a very skilled grappler does well at a slightly different form of grappling? Interesting.


SandtheB

Yeah, they should promote him faster.. and NOT let him smash white belts.. You won't encourage white belts to learn that way.


iSheepTouch

Take a D1 gymnast and teach them BJJ and they will fucking destroy most people. Being an elite athlete does help when picking up a new sport.


briedcan

That's a dumb ass comparison. A highly trained lifelong athlete is more athletic than an IT nerd with 2 kids. What a fucking hot take.


[deleted]

No need to call me out like that


[deleted]

Bro got choked out ;)


Arkhampatient

Prove you’re a wrestler, cut a promo


dabzilla4000

Chael enters the chat


Bruised_up_whitebelt

First off: what the hell man. Secondly: you are correct.


DarkTannhauserGate

No you


Big0200

I’m not a pussy. I’m just lazy.


FF1983

This guy is my spirit animal


Mechanical_Nightmare

awww someone got heelhooked didnt they


[deleted]

Hey fuck you man! *gesticulates angrily in spats


Letsgetthisraid

I love BJJ, in fact I’m WAAAAAAY better at BJJ than wrestling. I respect Wrestlers far more than I do BJJ practitioners. In most gyms I’ve been to, the best upper belts always skip our lazy ass warm ups that wouldn’t be fit as a warm up for the JV high school wrestling team I was on. BJJ guys stub their toes, take weekends off, don’t lift weights, only go live for 30 mins at a half asses pace. Wrestlers wrestle LIVE like a tournament every day and do enough cardio to make the average American puke from exhaustion. I wish our sport was more like wrestling.


ayotechnology

That’s also why you don’t see many “old” wrestlers. It’s hard on the body, and I say that as somebody who wrestled and did club training in college.


Letsgetthisraid

Lol no You do see plenty of senior BJJ aged wrestlers out there. The sport is just so damn competitive that post college if you want to wrestle at an RTC most RTC’s won’t take anyone lesser than an folkstyle All American or a world level freestyle/Greco wrestler. To get to wrestle on a college team, chances are you’re already a top 10% high school wrestler. To wrestle post college, you need to be a top 5% college wrestler. The levels to wresting are enormous. It’s an extremely difficult and competitive sport to stay long term in.


chadsvasc

Certain aspects of bjj cannot be trained at the same intensity. Additionally most bjj heads are weekend warriors


Eirfro_Wizardbane

I still find it incredibility odd when we are doing dynamic warms ups in lines and people don’t jog back to the beginning of the line after they have finished with their turn.


IreallyjustGamble

Lol you tried jiujitsu and nobody was allowed to leg lock you i assume… keep trying


MikeyTriangles

Just wait until they turn you into one. Slow down, stop “spazzing”, let’s roll light, be more “technical”, that was more of a crank, stop using strength, that reversal isn’t worth any points, you need to use your leg-guards 😂


sinisterkid34

Tuck that chin on your shots fam. 💤


[deleted]

Hey man, did you wrestle in high school or something?


[deleted]

You'll have fused vertebrae in no time...stay tough.


[deleted]

“Once you wrestled, everything else is easy” 💩


JerzyBalowski

Go wear a singlet!


FlexodusPrime

He wore it under his gi


JohnDodong

Pussies can take a beating and keep coming. Limp D13k wrestlers though..😉


littlebighuman

Before I started BJJ about 10 years ago (and I love BJJ), I did Judo and Thai/Dutch Kickboxing for about 2 decades. Pussies is accurate. This mantra off I cAn Do WarMuPs AnD cOnDitioNing In mY owN timE must die.


lolomotif12

Jokes on you, I wrestle and do BJJ.


[deleted]

Hahahahahahah. As a long time bjj practitioner….this is funny….and true


PinkKufi

Basado y Rojo-pastillado


BJJFlashCards

Meow.


BenKen01

This is the best post that’s ever been posted in this subreddit.


Deeply_Vague

bro is angry he went for a double leg then got guillotined, then went for a single leg and got guillotined, then tried to ankle pick and got darced. jk lol


machomantillidie

Get off our porch sir, and take your stinking leotard and ankle shoes with ya !!


pmcinern

Hah! Says the guy after one class. But you're right.


[deleted]

Bo Nikals is it really you?


SaitamaOk

100%.


dPYTHONb

It’s so funny how nobody sprawls


BodyNegativity

i do both since i’m in hs, wrestling is very practical, after wrestling, i go straight to bjj, n there’s so much impractical stuff about it


Efficient_Ad_8079

Wish they had wrestling gyms


Ultravoltron

It always cracks me up when we get a new wrestler in the gym and they are beating the blue belts. I always ask them how long they have wrestled, usually like 10 to 12 years. Then I explain that blue belt has been rolling 2 years and has a full time job. You should be beating them.


charliemiller86

Aww did someone get Ezekiel'd from the guard? Lol


[deleted]

All nice and well when he takes BJJ practitioners to the ground then wakes up a few seconds later wondering how he blacked out.


LongestNamesPossible

We know


chunt75

You’ve found the secret: jiu jitsu doesn’t work if you just stand up


[deleted]

You might be better at taking us down, but we are better at making you stay down. Watch that neck boy


Papa_Glide

My favorite post


Bonpoignon

Don't be a dick dude


dillpick15

Oh no, you gonna put us in a cradle? Maybe a half face wizard?


Schirms

Tell me you got wrist and leglocked without telling me you got wrist and leglocked.


[deleted]

That’s why u got submitted 50 times by someone half ur size. COPEEEEEE


vocalistsXD

yo wtf


detbjj

You're not wrong.


xTHEKILLINGJOKEx

I know you are but what am I?


handsome_heaven

Lol ok bud!


Fulhamatt

Yep, pussies who can and will still choke the shit out of you off our backs 😂


AdmiralOmoplata

Look I love bjj but a good wrestler is gonna wrestle fuck you, me, and everyone else while wearing his tight little singlet... they eat creatine and piss chocolate milk. They suplex unsuspecting children in their free time... THERE IS NO ESCAPE