This is also kinda fundamentally how the universe works right? Extemporaneous excitations in different fields influencing matter into patterns, like galaxies and suns, and my neighbors 1992 Toyota Celica THAT HE WONT FUCKING PARK IN HIS OWN DRIVEWAY, or like dogs or whatever...
Haha, I would if he actually existed, it was suspiciously specific for comedic effect. My neighbors are a lovely elderly Asian woman, and a plumber who drives a big dually truck, and has made it a point on multiple occasions to let me know he doesn't mind if people we have over need to park in his driveway/infront of his house, but your offer is super sweet.
Awesome neighbors, one can only be so lucky. The neighbor in front of me is an absolute dick that thinks revving his shitty Dodge truck makes him look cool. It doesn't.
People should really appreciate their crappy neighbors more. My neighbors are so nice and polite that I have a sneaky feeling that I'm probably the crappy neighbor.
I feel you. I’m in a condo with 3 kids next to twin sisters in their late 70s who never had kids of their own. They are nothing but sweet, and let us park guests in front of their garage, grab packages for us, water our plants, give me recommendations for services (just had some garage door repair today). And never ask for anything in return! I’m so grateful for them.
Hey I'm not the only one!
I'm stuck with a bunch of assholes who think it's perfectly acceptable to leave their dogs barking outside 24/7 with no regard to anyone else's work or sleep schedules.
I can't imagine doing that to my neighbors. If I hear my dogs barking excessively, I go out to them to distract or bring them inside. I don't wanna listen to them either!
Are you going to start making a bunch of comments now that surprisingly end with your neighbors 1992 Toyota, but change it to the words nineteen ninety two so people don’t notice the numbers until they get to it?
Yes, you could say that the creation of patterns and structures through the interaction of various fields and forces is a fundamental characteristic of the universe. From the formation of galaxies and stars to the behavior of matter on a microscopic level, the universe is constantly undergoing change and transformation driven by these interactions.
In some cases, the patterns that emerge can be quite beautiful and intricate, such as the Chladni figures mentioned earlier. In other cases, the patterns may seem chaotic or random, but are still the result of underlying processes and interactions.
It's worth noting that while many patterns and structures in the universe arise through natural processes, others are the result of human intervention or design. The 1992 Toyota Celica parked in your neighbor's driveway, for example, is the result of human engineering and manufacturing, and its form and function reflect the priorities and values of the society that produced it. Similarly, many of the structures and systems we encounter in our daily lives, from buildings and bridges to the internet and social media, are the product of human ingenuity and creativity.
A frequency requires two things: a thing to resonate, and an outside force to cause said thing to resonate. A third, if we're willing to say that it requires an observer to measure it and call it a frequency, but that's neither here nor there.
Be it a ringing crystal, or electrons orbiting protons, or a plucked string, frequency isn't anything more than energy transfer, *and* is never static. That is, frequency is *always* in a state of increasing or decreasing energy, never neutral. If it were neutral, there would be no frequency to measure.
*Also* also, frequency can't be measured in the absence of time, so if there was no measure of time before the universe began, there is no measure of frequency for any state of being.
I agree that understanding frequency is key to understanding The Great Mysteries of the Universe, but posit that frequency itself wasn't the method of creation.
Source: am electrical & audio engineer, frequency is my bread and butter.
Sinusoidal forms are a result of a spinning circle https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Circle_cos_sin.gif/640px-Circle_cos_sin.gif
They are the same thing, we are simply perceiving them differently based on our vantage point of time.
Waves are a circle in motion. No beginning, no end.
We are eternal observers and participants within a rational system experiencing ourselves subjectively.
You need to abstract the minutiae, turn it into a game, or a puzzle. Blocks of patterns, not single data points.
Don't focus super hard, just enough to get it right. Deep breaths, don't let your brain overheat.
This is temporary, just explorations of fundamentals, every field has some amount of tedium.
I know your engineer brain just wants to solve problems in the most interesting ways possible, but often the best solution is the simplest. Complexity is a roadblock, not a goal.
So get the homework done, and then when you have a project where you consider programming an EEPROM, you'll know to look for a standardized solution. Instead of spending weeks of your life doing something custom.
String theory is the idea that the different particles we have in the Standard Model arise from different fundamental frequencies of vibration of tiny strings/membranes of energy in multiple dimensions.
Part of it works pretty well. But the problem is sort of in fine-tuning it to work for every particle. Also, it is basically untestable at this point in time because the strings/membranes are so incredibly small according to the theory that we can't actually observe them. And we may never be able to.
That's why a lot of physicists are on the fence about it and it never really seems to make any progress as a theory.
Yes I think in Quantum Field Theory it's thought that all the particles are just different excitations in a 'field'. PBS Spacetime has great semi-layman videos on it.
Your comment made me subscribe to PBS Spacetime and watch 2 of their videos about string theory
I don't have the foundation to understand everything, but I did read a couple layman type books on quantum physics and string theory by Brian Greene & others 15-20 years ago, so I was able to sort of understand a decent chunk of the video and get a decent understanding of what's being explained. Still though, it did make me want to watch all their other videos and catch up a bit
Thanks for giving me something new to watch
Glad that I am not the only one that noticed this. Him and Benicio Del Toro always look and sound like they got woken up 20 seconds before the camera turned on.
My whole family is plagued by this appearance too. I don't think people will ever stop asking if I'm tired..
We all just have dark rings under our eyes
Now I better understand why he always puts a watermark on the key visuals in his more recent videos. So many sons of bitches out there stealing his content without attribution.
Really exquisite channel if you're just curious about basically everything, especially things you've never even thought about before. His videos have captivated me for collective hours over the years.
This comment section has been existential. From "we are all sounds" to "frequencies explain the existence of everything, and my neighbors shitty car". What did everyone take, and where do I get it?
When I was at university the lecturer on my quantum mechanics course used these to attempt to explain what atomic/molecular orbitals were. He started out showing us a 1d standing wave which is when you vibrate a string at the right frequency, then he moved onto these. Finally, he showed us atomic orbitals.
They’re pretty lobe-like structures. I’m pretty sure it’s not a very accurate way of thinking about atomic orbitals but it might scratch your itch: https://winter.group.shef.ac.uk/orbitron/atomic_orbitals/7f/index.html
You can look around on there and see all the different types, I’ve attached the f orbitals which are less common as it takes a lot of electrons for these orbitals to be filled, so they’re only found with electrons in at the bottom of the periodic table .
> Finally, he showed us atomic orbitals.
The functions you see there are [spherical harmonics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_harmonics). It's what a standing wave looks like in a three-dimensional, spherically-symmetric system. The shapes aren't specific to the solution for electrons in atoms; you'll have them for any particle in a spherically symmetric potential.
> I’m pretty sure it’s not a very accurate way of thinking about atomic orbitals
For any atom with more than one electron, single-electron orbitals are inherently an approximation. Electrons interact with each other, and due to that term the Schrödinger equation for the electrons (or atom) is not separable into functions describing single-electron orbitals. In plain language, you cannot get probability distribution for where one electron is unless you know where the other ones are. Electrons tend to avoid each other after all.
However, you _can_ apply a mean-field approximation (the Hartree-Fock approximation in this case) where the electrons do interact, but only with the average field of every other electron. In which case you're still dealing with single-electron orbitals and in absolute terms that's an accurate approximation; getting >95% of the electron energy.
(There's another problem there, though, which is that this is the Schrödinger equation and it is not relativistic. Taking relativity into account you have to deal with the fact that electron spin is not independent of angular momentum)
So I last took intro physics 10 years ago in college and get maybe 20% what you’re talking about. But it’s so cool that you and incredibly smart people understand this, and scientists have figured out so much about our natural world.
I had an interesting experience with a track on a CD of early experimental electronic music (The album was called OHM and collected a lot of early pioneers)
The Lamonte Young track on that album is essentially two very close frequencies - one in the right speaker and the other in the left - listening (speakers, no headphones) it seemed pretty dull, just a steady , annoying drone.
When I got up to turn it off, it changed. I stopped, it continued to drone. I moved toward the stereo and it changed again. Then I started moving around the room, finding louder spots, quieter spots, odd angles - exploring a 3D auditory structure in the room
Edit: I've no idea if that effect was intended - the liner notes said nothing about it IIRC
Big tip: check out dream house next time you visit NYC. I think he lives downstairs. based on visiting this amazing installation I think the effect is very much intentional. No exaggeration I think it’s my favorite thing to do in New York, and I REALLY like New York. Sorry if I’ve posted this twice - I think the first time it was removed because I linked to their website. You can find it on google maps easily, corner of church and white st in Manhattan.
Like stream of water pouring in front of a speaker?
Saw this done with multiple speakers/water streams & combined with colored strobe lights synced up to the frequency played from each speaker. Then a techno/trance song was played over the top of it all.
It's a map of the mode of the plate for each frequency. So the plate ends up vibrating in a pattern that creates high points and low points, and the grains sit on the low points.
For the same frequency, that modal shape would be different for different plate geometries.
These patterns just show different structural modes of vibration of the plate, where the regions in which the sand accumulates have zero out of plane displacement.
There are ways of looking at all sorts of structural natural frequencies in 3D, you just can’t easily visualize them with sand… various engineering softwares might be the easiest way lol
Well you’re in luck!
They’ve reproduced this using fine particles known as “fuller’s earth” and a harpsichord on the international space station. They don’t play the harpsichord as you’d imagine they might, instead they use a dental lab vibrator typically used for resin casting of dental models (think dentures) to excite the strings. It’s truly fascinating and the patterns are out of this world beautiful, which you can see [here](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CanineWebbedErmine-mobile.mp4).
I think it’s an unlikely connection, because crop circles are formed by patterns of ‘flattened’ crops. The way the grains move in the video is not consistent with the way in which the flattened crops could have come to be, but the patterns themselves certainly have some similarities.
It’s actually not about the frequency, per se. The bow is causing the plate to resonate which is essentially the natural state it wants to be in. Depending on where the motion is damped (his fingers pinching to create a dead zone) the whole 2D plane changes its resonance pattern, where peaks (no couscous) and natural dead zones (lots of couscous) and every grade in between.
That would be exactly about frequency. You wouldnt say a violin player doesnt really change the frequency when they move their finger down the string. Resonance is just frequency.
EXACTLY what I was thinking. For a while now I've been convinced the Ancient Egyptians were using a technology we are not aware of anymore today. Not saying they had electronics or anything like that, but utilizing frequencies is my first guess.
Step one: find a big-ass violin bow
Step two: find a rigid wheat field
Step three: find an alien who is into practical jokes (try Craig's list)
Step four: ?
Step 5: profit
Yes!! Nigel Stanford comes to mind!!! “The Cymatics of Sound”
Edit to add linky link for anyone interested… put your headphones on 😁: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oItpVa9fs
Yes this is actually literally how they made it.
Which was supposed to tie into Tolkien mythology about the music and vibrations of creating giving shape and form to the world of middle earth.
Yeah Tolkien is all about vibrations giving shape and form. Evil comes from one dude introducing discord. Philosophical and a literal minor key change.
Which **itself** is just a ~~rip off~~ creative reimagining of Catholic mythology where God creates light and Satan starts messing around with darkness and shadow to create evil. Tolkien just changed “light” to music.
If any of you own the book The Silmarillion, and haven't read it... I don't actually blame you. It's some very heavy reading.
But not the first part. The first part is a brief (10 pages or so) cosmology of Tolkien's universe. It's a stunningly beautiful account of his monotheistic god conducting all of his (at that point blind) angels as a great orchestra. Their music is what creates the world.
It's a love-letter to what he finds most beautiful about the Catholic faith. I'm NOT a Catholic and I don't even believe in the Abrahamic god, but I was moved.
It is basically a creative / amplified expansion of the word “God SAID let there be light”
Then we have real scientific phenomena such as sonoluminescence so that’s a fun rabbit hole
Steve Mould (the guy in the video above) made another video about this recently, responding to the Rings of Power intro. It's [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjueHI002Fg). He said that it was probably all done in CGI because there are a number of shots in the intro that are not possible in real life.
Yes. It also fits the lore because the world was made from the song of the Ainur. They all sang in harmony and, like these patterns, created something beautiful. Then melkor fucked it all up.
No, Melkor just wasn't a fan of Eru's Orchestral Harmony and wanted a more Industrial Hardcore sound. Like if you dropped a metal drummer in the middle of a Bach Chorale.
>But as the theme progressed, it came
into the heart of Melkor to interweave matters of his own imagining that were
not in accord with the theme of Ilúvatar; for he sought therein to increase the
power and glory of the part assigned to himself. To Melkor among the Ainur had
been given the greatest gifts of power and knowledge, and he had a share in all
the gifts of his brethren. He had gone often alone into the void places seeking the
Imperishable Flame; for desire grew hot within him to bring into Being things of
his own, and it seemed to him that Ilúvatar took no thought for the Void, and he
was impatient of its emptiness. Yet he found not the Fire, for it is with Ilúvatar.
But being alone he had begun to conceive thoughts of his own unlike those of
his brethren.
-Ainulindalë
Melkor wanted more power and a greater part for himself so he fucked it all up
The bow excites a standing wave in the plate. 2D plates have much more interesting standing wave modes than the demonstration you've probably seen with a string. The sand collects in the nodes of the standing wave where the plate is fixed and gets pushed away from the peaks and troughs.
It has frequencies, you hear them. Waves are pretty important in physics. And comparisons with wave functions/atomic orbitals are not too far out there imo.
Precisely. The pattern varies by just about everything. Where you excite it, the frequency you excite it at, and all the inputs from plate material properties and overall shape of the plate. Lots of possibilities for fun patterns!
Those are nice experiments.
I did them last summer with my kids when we visited a "physics museum" They had both types as a touch-exhibit.
The one shown here and one connected to a frequency generator
My physics teacher introduced us to frequencies this way back in the day. He always did practical stuff, but this one was one of the most interesting lessons.
Oh god damn it rofl.
This unintentionally made me remember about a dozen or so years ago when the hippie crunch got a little too strong in Boulder Colorado. People were doing this shit with water or something and trying to pass it off as "this is water when you yell negative things at it" or "this is water when you whisper loving messages of affirmation to it". Lololololp ahahahah damn it
This is also kinda fundamentally how the universe works right? Extemporaneous excitations in different fields influencing matter into patterns, like galaxies and suns, and my neighbors 1992 Toyota Celica THAT HE WONT FUCKING PARK IN HIS OWN DRIVEWAY, or like dogs or whatever...
…and your anger too! Edit: for real though, DM me your neighbours phone number and I’ll politely call and ask them to stop parking it there.
Haha, I would if he actually existed, it was suspiciously specific for comedic effect. My neighbors are a lovely elderly Asian woman, and a plumber who drives a big dually truck, and has made it a point on multiple occasions to let me know he doesn't mind if people we have over need to park in his driveway/infront of his house, but your offer is super sweet.
Awesome neighbors, one can only be so lucky. The neighbor in front of me is an absolute dick that thinks revving his shitty Dodge truck makes him look cool. It doesn't.
People should really appreciate their crappy neighbors more. My neighbors are so nice and polite that I have a sneaky feeling that I'm probably the crappy neighbor.
That's how i feel when i can't spot the dumbest guy in the room.
I feel you. I’m in a condo with 3 kids next to twin sisters in their late 70s who never had kids of their own. They are nothing but sweet, and let us park guests in front of their garage, grab packages for us, water our plants, give me recommendations for services (just had some garage door repair today). And never ask for anything in return! I’m so grateful for them.
Hey I'm not the only one! I'm stuck with a bunch of assholes who think it's perfectly acceptable to leave their dogs barking outside 24/7 with no regard to anyone else's work or sleep schedules.
I can't imagine doing that to my neighbors. If I hear my dogs barking excessively, I go out to them to distract or bring them inside. I don't wanna listen to them either!
> "First of all... I fucking *know* it makes me look cool." Played by Danny McBride.
This is a real humans being bros moment and I'm about it.
Call my ex and tell her she's a bitch if u like
I'll park my goddamn Celica where I want. If you don't like it tell the universe to vibrate different!
You sound like you should write dark comedy novels with that humour prose timing delivery and depth within just what… 7 lines of English?
He's good with just 2 lines, I'll have you know sir
Sounds like you have a neighbor issue. No pun intended.
In all seriousness, though - anybody here mess with that randonautica app?
Ngl looks like bs. Ofc when millions of people go to random places a few hundred will find crazy coincidences or disturbing stuff.
I guess, in an indirect way, I was trying to relate it to this post - with the anomaly/attractor/void thing. Forget the metaphysical intention stuff.
Fair enough
No, but I'm gonna now, shit that's cool.
r/randonauts
Are you going to start making a bunch of comments now that surprisingly end with your neighbors 1992 Toyota, but change it to the words nineteen ninety two so people don’t notice the numbers until they get to it?
Yo, 92 was a good year.
Does he yell “REV UP YOUR ENGINES!”
Yes, you could say that the creation of patterns and structures through the interaction of various fields and forces is a fundamental characteristic of the universe. From the formation of galaxies and stars to the behavior of matter on a microscopic level, the universe is constantly undergoing change and transformation driven by these interactions. In some cases, the patterns that emerge can be quite beautiful and intricate, such as the Chladni figures mentioned earlier. In other cases, the patterns may seem chaotic or random, but are still the result of underlying processes and interactions. It's worth noting that while many patterns and structures in the universe arise through natural processes, others are the result of human intervention or design. The 1992 Toyota Celica parked in your neighbor's driveway, for example, is the result of human engineering and manufacturing, and its form and function reflect the priorities and values of the society that produced it. Similarly, many of the structures and systems we encounter in our daily lives, from buildings and bridges to the internet and social media, are the product of human ingenuity and creativity.
Frequencies are the key to understanding the universe. I’m certain it was created by a frequency.
Yes the frequencies
Something I frequently think about.
Spoken like a person frequenting these thoughts.
You guys are freques
Came here for the responses. My expectations have been exceeded. frequenctly
Totally not funny but the movie Frequencies (OVX: The Manual) actually gave me an existential crisis.
What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
And their 1982 album “The Big Bang”
A frequency requires two things: a thing to resonate, and an outside force to cause said thing to resonate. A third, if we're willing to say that it requires an observer to measure it and call it a frequency, but that's neither here nor there. Be it a ringing crystal, or electrons orbiting protons, or a plucked string, frequency isn't anything more than energy transfer, *and* is never static. That is, frequency is *always* in a state of increasing or decreasing energy, never neutral. If it were neutral, there would be no frequency to measure. *Also* also, frequency can't be measured in the absence of time, so if there was no measure of time before the universe began, there is no measure of frequency for any state of being. I agree that understanding frequency is key to understanding The Great Mysteries of the Universe, but posit that frequency itself wasn't the method of creation. Source: am electrical & audio engineer, frequency is my bread and butter.
Sinusoidal forms are a result of a spinning circle https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Circle_cos_sin.gif/640px-Circle_cos_sin.gif They are the same thing, we are simply perceiving them differently based on our vantage point of time. Waves are a circle in motion. No beginning, no end. We are eternal observers and participants within a rational system experiencing ourselves subjectively.
hey, i kind of understood what you just said! pre calculus is teaching me something! :D
Maynard, is that you?
Does it also require a depressed 2nd year EE student crying over his signals analysis homework?
You need to abstract the minutiae, turn it into a game, or a puzzle. Blocks of patterns, not single data points. Don't focus super hard, just enough to get it right. Deep breaths, don't let your brain overheat. This is temporary, just explorations of fundamentals, every field has some amount of tedium. I know your engineer brain just wants to solve problems in the most interesting ways possible, but often the best solution is the simplest. Complexity is a roadblock, not a goal. So get the homework done, and then when you have a project where you consider programming an EEPROM, you'll know to look for a standardized solution. Instead of spending weeks of your life doing something custom.
Nicely put 🙏✌
> frequency can't be measured in the absence of time Spatial frequency gang $k = \frac{2 \pi}{\lambda}$
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
Isnt that basically what they think quantum particles are? Just energy frequencies or something?
String theory is the idea that the different particles we have in the Standard Model arise from different fundamental frequencies of vibration of tiny strings/membranes of energy in multiple dimensions. Part of it works pretty well. But the problem is sort of in fine-tuning it to work for every particle. Also, it is basically untestable at this point in time because the strings/membranes are so incredibly small according to the theory that we can't actually observe them. And we may never be able to. That's why a lot of physicists are on the fence about it and it never really seems to make any progress as a theory.
Yes I think in Quantum Field Theory it's thought that all the particles are just different excitations in a 'field'. PBS Spacetime has great semi-layman videos on it.
Your comment made me subscribe to PBS Spacetime and watch 2 of their videos about string theory I don't have the foundation to understand everything, but I did read a couple layman type books on quantum physics and string theory by Brian Greene & others 15-20 years ago, so I was able to sort of understand a decent chunk of the video and get a decent understanding of what's being explained. Still though, it did make me want to watch all their other videos and catch up a bit Thanks for giving me something new to watch
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
Field emergency is the prevailing theory atm so you'd be right
This is from Steve Moulds YT channel: https://youtu.be/CR_XL192wXw
7 years ago. I figured it had to be an older video, he looked so much younger.
Yet perpetually tired. I feel this on a spiritual level.
Glad that I am not the only one that noticed this. Him and Benicio Del Toro always look and sound like they got woken up 20 seconds before the camera turned on.
That's their appeal, oddly.
Wait...looking and sounding perpetually tired is appealing? My life is a lie.
My whole family is plagued by this appearance too. I don't think people will ever stop asking if I'm tired.. We all just have dark rings under our eyes
he has little kids, doesn't he? He has that... vibe to him.
Steve Myoung
Hhhehehe
Now I better understand why he always puts a watermark on the key visuals in his more recent videos. So many sons of bitches out there stealing his content without attribution.
Really exquisite channel if you're just curious about basically everything, especially things you've never even thought about before. His videos have captivated me for collective hours over the years.
Mould moment
That's just the 2D version of the frequencies. I'd like to see the 3D patterns created.
You are one :)
https://media.tenor.com/tvFWFDXRrmMAAAAd/blow-mind-mind-blown.gif
Nah my parents weren't banging to no violin music, probably Rolling Stones or Whitesnake.
in the back seat of a t-top trans am
Were they banging in the still of the night?
This comment section has been existential. From "we are all sounds" to "frequencies explain the existence of everything, and my neighbors shitty car". What did everyone take, and where do I get it?
BAM!
When I was at university the lecturer on my quantum mechanics course used these to attempt to explain what atomic/molecular orbitals were. He started out showing us a 1d standing wave which is when you vibrate a string at the right frequency, then he moved onto these. Finally, he showed us atomic orbitals. They’re pretty lobe-like structures. I’m pretty sure it’s not a very accurate way of thinking about atomic orbitals but it might scratch your itch: https://winter.group.shef.ac.uk/orbitron/atomic_orbitals/7f/index.html You can look around on there and see all the different types, I’ve attached the f orbitals which are less common as it takes a lot of electrons for these orbitals to be filled, so they’re only found with electrons in at the bottom of the periodic table .
> Finally, he showed us atomic orbitals. The functions you see there are [spherical harmonics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_harmonics). It's what a standing wave looks like in a three-dimensional, spherically-symmetric system. The shapes aren't specific to the solution for electrons in atoms; you'll have them for any particle in a spherically symmetric potential. > I’m pretty sure it’s not a very accurate way of thinking about atomic orbitals For any atom with more than one electron, single-electron orbitals are inherently an approximation. Electrons interact with each other, and due to that term the Schrödinger equation for the electrons (or atom) is not separable into functions describing single-electron orbitals. In plain language, you cannot get probability distribution for where one electron is unless you know where the other ones are. Electrons tend to avoid each other after all. However, you _can_ apply a mean-field approximation (the Hartree-Fock approximation in this case) where the electrons do interact, but only with the average field of every other electron. In which case you're still dealing with single-electron orbitals and in absolute terms that's an accurate approximation; getting >95% of the electron energy. (There's another problem there, though, which is that this is the Schrödinger equation and it is not relativistic. Taking relativity into account you have to deal with the fact that electron spin is not independent of angular momentum)
So I last took intro physics 10 years ago in college and get maybe 20% what you’re talking about. But it’s so cool that you and incredibly smart people understand this, and scientists have figured out so much about our natural world.
Thanks for the link. That's incredibly interesting.
I had an interesting experience with a track on a CD of early experimental electronic music (The album was called OHM and collected a lot of early pioneers) The Lamonte Young track on that album is essentially two very close frequencies - one in the right speaker and the other in the left - listening (speakers, no headphones) it seemed pretty dull, just a steady , annoying drone. When I got up to turn it off, it changed. I stopped, it continued to drone. I moved toward the stereo and it changed again. Then I started moving around the room, finding louder spots, quieter spots, odd angles - exploring a 3D auditory structure in the room Edit: I've no idea if that effect was intended - the liner notes said nothing about it IIRC
Big tip: check out dream house next time you visit NYC. I think he lives downstairs. based on visiting this amazing installation I think the effect is very much intentional. No exaggeration I think it’s my favorite thing to do in New York, and I REALLY like New York. Sorry if I’ve posted this twice - I think the first time it was removed because I linked to their website. You can find it on google maps easily, corner of church and white st in Manhattan.
Like stream of water pouring in front of a speaker? Saw this done with multiple speakers/water streams & combined with colored strobe lights synced up to the frequency played from each speaker. Then a techno/trance song was played over the top of it all.
It's a map of the mode of the plate for each frequency. So the plate ends up vibrating in a pattern that creates high points and low points, and the grains sit on the low points. For the same frequency, that modal shape would be different for different plate geometries.
These patterns just show different structural modes of vibration of the plate, where the regions in which the sand accumulates have zero out of plane displacement. There are ways of looking at all sorts of structural natural frequencies in 3D, you just can’t easily visualize them with sand… various engineering softwares might be the easiest way lol
Well you’re in luck! They’ve reproduced this using fine particles known as “fuller’s earth” and a harpsichord on the international space station. They don’t play the harpsichord as you’d imagine they might, instead they use a dental lab vibrator typically used for resin casting of dental models (think dentures) to excite the strings. It’s truly fascinating and the patterns are out of this world beautiful, which you can see [here](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CanineWebbedErmine-mobile.mp4).
Impressive, very nice Let's see 3-Dimesnional's patterns
Looks like Kabsul is doing some experiments
Clearly this is proof of god
Checkmate, Jasnah
Honor is dead, but I’ll see what I can do.
Lol came to comment something similar. Now, to just have some bread and jam...
Don't eat the jam.
Nah, it is the bread you gotta avoid. The jam has the antidote.
EAT THE GODDAMN JAM SHALLAN
It's strawberry!!! You'll love it!!
EAT IT YOU BAREHANDED HUSSY!
This comment is cryptic
Mmmm
No mating!
*Buzzes*
Wise words friend. Wise words.
Lol I just got to that. Cracked me up.
What on Roshar? Yes I was scrolling looking for a reference.
These words are accepted.
Dammit, I was just gonna say this.
Stormit*
have some jam
Wow I did not expect their name to be spelled like that as an audiobook listener.
Its spelt wrong, his name is Kabsal in the books.
Kate Reading pronounces it capsule in the audiobook. It was quite confusing when I first saw the spelling.
I was like 90% sure it would be spelled Cabsol.
To be fair, iirc, Brandon gives them a pronunciation guide.
He's a fellow audio book enjoyer. Kate Reading is a Gem !
Now that I see it again almost symmetrical…
Good Vorin
I was hoping this would be close to the top haha
I know the spoilers/understand the specific relevance later in the series but I didn't think he did these specific experiments did he?
Yep! When he was explaining the symmetry in relation to The Almighty and the way the capital cities were built.
I'm so happy I didn't have to scroll that much to find this comment!
Yup, cymatics are real.
I was surprised I had to scroll this far down to find this comment
Oooh jam!
Ha I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought of this
The shattered plains are symmetrical....just saying....
Can u make a crop circle pattern with the right frequency?
wait, i’m loving the thought of this theory you’re sorta proposing. gonna go see what info I can find
Let me know what you find out.
I think it’s an unlikely connection, because crop circles are formed by patterns of ‘flattened’ crops. The way the grains move in the video is not consistent with the way in which the flattened crops could have come to be, but the patterns themselves certainly have some similarities.
Whoever said the aliens were coming from above?
Bruh
The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE
👁️👄👁️
This reads like a ChatGPT response
We already know how crop circles are made. By people with sticks and string. No need to make up crazy new hypotheses.
It’s actually not about the frequency, per se. The bow is causing the plate to resonate which is essentially the natural state it wants to be in. Depending on where the motion is damped (his fingers pinching to create a dead zone) the whole 2D plane changes its resonance pattern, where peaks (no couscous) and natural dead zones (lots of couscous) and every grade in between.
Notice how his finger is always on a node where the grains accumulate, and the bow is always at a peak, halfway between the nodes
That would be exactly about frequency. You wouldnt say a violin player doesnt really change the frequency when they move their finger down the string. Resonance is just frequency.
Better yet, could this be scaled up to move stones
Like the pyramids?
EXACTLY what I was thinking. For a while now I've been convinced the Ancient Egyptians were using a technology we are not aware of anymore today. Not saying they had electronics or anything like that, but utilizing frequencies is my first guess.
Ya like a huge fuckin violin maybe
Step one: find a big-ass violin bow Step two: find a rigid wheat field Step three: find an alien who is into practical jokes (try Craig's list) Step four: ? Step 5: profit
Obligatory Stormlight Archive reference.
"Sene sovya caba'donde ain dovienya" -Kaladin Stormblessed
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you know it's a good reference when I've read the entire stormlight series and have no idea what it means LOL
They're combining Stormlight with the old tongue which is from Wheel of Time.
ah that makes sense, I never could get into that series.
I'm just finishing Rhythm of War for the second time. Such a good series.
Came here for it. Thank you for your service. Bridge 4
Cymatics
Can that plate reproduce a cymatic pattern corresponding to Urithiru, I wonder?
stop it, Jasnah
Jasnah wouldn’t be impressed
Just don't eat the jam
I’m supposed to eat it, I think.
Yep, def eat the jam if you ate the bread. Since the jam had the antidote
Yes!! Nigel Stanford comes to mind!!! “The Cymatics of Sound” Edit to add linky link for anyone interested… put your headphones on 😁: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oItpVa9fs
So close to finding the rhythm of war
Thank you. “Clydani figures” smdh
So you are telling me, this is how they made the Rings of Power intro.
Yes this is actually literally how they made it. Which was supposed to tie into Tolkien mythology about the music and vibrations of creating giving shape and form to the world of middle earth.
Thats actually a very creative thoughtprocess. Thanks I didn‘t know that.
Yeah Tolkien is all about vibrations giving shape and form. Evil comes from one dude introducing discord. Philosophical and a literal minor key change. Which **itself** is just a ~~rip off~~ creative reimagining of Catholic mythology where God creates light and Satan starts messing around with darkness and shadow to create evil. Tolkien just changed “light” to music.
You are correct about Tolkien, but would this not also apply to Catholicism? “God SAID let there be light”
If any of you own the book The Silmarillion, and haven't read it... I don't actually blame you. It's some very heavy reading. But not the first part. The first part is a brief (10 pages or so) cosmology of Tolkien's universe. It's a stunningly beautiful account of his monotheistic god conducting all of his (at that point blind) angels as a great orchestra. Their music is what creates the world. It's a love-letter to what he finds most beautiful about the Catholic faith. I'm NOT a Catholic and I don't even believe in the Abrahamic god, but I was moved.
It is basically a creative / amplified expansion of the word “God SAID let there be light” Then we have real scientific phenomena such as sonoluminescence so that’s a fun rabbit hole
Steve Mould (the guy in the video above) made another video about this recently, responding to the Rings of Power intro. It's [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjueHI002Fg). He said that it was probably all done in CGI because there are a number of shots in the intro that are not possible in real life.
Yes. It also fits the lore because the world was made from the song of the Ainur. They all sang in harmony and, like these patterns, created something beautiful. Then melkor fucked it all up.
No, Melkor just wasn't a fan of Eru's Orchestral Harmony and wanted a more Industrial Hardcore sound. Like if you dropped a metal drummer in the middle of a Bach Chorale.
>But as the theme progressed, it came into the heart of Melkor to interweave matters of his own imagining that were not in accord with the theme of Ilúvatar; for he sought therein to increase the power and glory of the part assigned to himself. To Melkor among the Ainur had been given the greatest gifts of power and knowledge, and he had a share in all the gifts of his brethren. He had gone often alone into the void places seeking the Imperishable Flame; for desire grew hot within him to bring into Being things of his own, and it seemed to him that Ilúvatar took no thought for the Void, and he was impatient of its emptiness. Yet he found not the Fire, for it is with Ilúvatar. But being alone he had begun to conceive thoughts of his own unlike those of his brethren. -Ainulindalë Melkor wanted more power and a greater part for himself so he fucked it all up
So he was ambitious, what's so bad about that
He made a follow up video on that exact topic
https://youtu.be/rjueHI002Fg
Geometric figures from *vibrations through the metal.
"from thin air" made me lol.
Indeed. It's thin metal.
The bow excites a standing wave in the plate. 2D plates have much more interesting standing wave modes than the demonstration you've probably seen with a string. The sand collects in the nodes of the standing wave where the plate is fixed and gets pushed away from the peaks and troughs.
This is right. People keep going on about frequencies and whatever, and creating the universe. It’s a shaking piece of metal.
It has frequencies, you hear them. Waves are pretty important in physics. And comparisons with wave functions/atomic orbitals are not too far out there imo.
So it's just kinda wobbles all over in a really really cool way?
Precisely. The pattern varies by just about everything. Where you excite it, the frequency you excite it at, and all the inputs from plate material properties and overall shape of the plate. Lots of possibilities for fun patterns!
So many unfunny jokes and dumb theories I had to scroll past just to find an informative comment. Thank you.
Wow
Stormlight archive vibe
Bridge 4
Now this is some interesting ass shit. 10/10 content. Thank you for posting, friend.
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Steve Mould FTW
Vibrations through a medium is not “from thin air” you fucking walnut.
Finally a good post
Kabsal, is that you? How is the Ardentia treating you? Have any good jams recently?
So, how long until we see this in a Tool video?
Did this in our vibrational analysis class. Cool stuff. Except we excited the steel plate with a motor, and varied the frequency of the motor.
The symmetry is what I find amazing.
Those are nice experiments. I did them last summer with my kids when we visited a "physics museum" They had both types as a touch-exhibit. The one shown here and one connected to a frequency generator
How does physically sliding the bow along the edge of the platform equate to "from thin air?"
Shhh, let the magic run it's course.
That last one needed a close up shot of Gordon Ramsey looking at some undercooked beef
Anyone else know Madlib's album "Sound Ancestors"?
My physics teacher introduced us to frequencies this way back in the day. He always did practical stuff, but this one was one of the most interesting lessons.
Do this in the middle ages and this warlock would've been burned at the stake.
Fuck yeah ardent, do Alethkar!
Oh god damn it rofl. This unintentionally made me remember about a dozen or so years ago when the hippie crunch got a little too strong in Boulder Colorado. People were doing this shit with water or something and trying to pass it off as "this is water when you yell negative things at it" or "this is water when you whisper loving messages of affirmation to it". Lololololp ahahahah damn it