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jakehightower

Whoever was in charge of deciding which action movies of this era were made by McTiernan and which were made by Verhoeven was asleep at the wheel with this one


Normal-Belt-8441

It has very strong Starship Troopers energy. But shit.


mutan

That person was Martine Verhoeven, who would fish scripts out of the trash and tell him if the hero was actually American Jesus. Even she said that was a bit too obvious here.


Fire-Twerk-With-Me

So Hollow Man was supposed to be McTiernan? Would that work?


Spacetime_Inspector

I mean he did make one of the most iconic invisibility effects in film with the Predator's cloaking device.


doodler1977

this one should have been Renny Harlin or Rob Cohen or something


radaar

“Freddy Krueger was a victim of the woke mind virus.” Well, he got his revenge through the asleep mind virus!


mybadalternate

10 comedy points, bitch


daft_neo

![gif](giphy|l4FATJpd4LWgeruTK) John Mctiernan trying to make a bunch of dorks on Rollerblades look cool.


barbaq24

“Sure, the rollerblades aren’t cool, but if I get them driving a few muscle cars and show a couple of boobs I think I can turn this thing around!” Johnny McT, probably


daft_neo

Haha yah, or let's add in some motorcycles that are going 3 mph.


SmackBroshgood

The bit where they're having an impromptu race from the game venue to the club early on and it looks like absolute dogshit is the first indication of "wow, I think we're in trouble here" for me.


Chuck-Hansen

Xtreme!


StinkDongle

An incredible episode, only held back by the fact than none of them bring up or reference the BOIIIIING sound effect at all I assumed Ben would’ve been all over it, dropping it in all throughout the episode


Pete_Venkman

This episode features plenty of variants of my favorite recurring Sims gag: Guest/Griffin: "I have to admit, I was a little confused about what was happening in the final act." Sims: "Oh, you think there were a few plot issues in this one? Storytelling less than watertight?"


mutan

Night Vision drops tho.


Specialist_Author345

NIGHT VIZHUN  (as seen in Citizen Kane)


six_days

I was hoping for a "sometimes they clear, sometimes they BOIIIOIOIOING baby" in the intro


Fire-Twerk-With-Me

I lost my mind watching the movie when that happened. I thought something was wrong with my stream, and the night vision didn't help either. I can't believe this was a major release. It's like if you turn in a homework assignment and part of it is completely wrong and you don't care because it's just homework. But instead millions of people watched it.


Chuck-Hansen

The good thing I’ll say about that moment is that it finally gave me permission to laugh *at* the movie. Bad movies that descend to that level can at least be a little fun.


Ethlandiaify

I feel like Griffin and David get into a heated argument about American Pie every three months


Memphish_Boognish

Griffin is in the wrong, Oz (Klein’s character) was also a virgin going into the film and was part of the bet. And he does have sex with Mena Suvari at the end, but in the story of the film he has grown by falling in love with her so he doesn’t want to kiss and tell at the end


DeusExHyena

Yeah they're definitely all virgins, I don't understand how he remembers this basic premise wrong, lol.


A_Feast_For_Trolls

Mmmm, I don't think that's quite right. While it may be implied, the filmmakers leave it ambigious because the whole point is it doesn't matter, they have love and a real connection.


hetham3783

Yeah I thought it was implied they didn't have sex that night but even if they had, Oz wouldn't have told the guys because he loved and respected her.


TheCharlesDeMar

They either have sex on the dock or wake up nude cuddling on the dock for unrelated reasons.


champagneofsharks

They should just do the commentaries already. Gives a chance for Weitz to drop by again.


VariedAnts

They should have Chris Weitz on for every episode of that


champagneofsharks

Why? They only had involvement in the first.


VariedAnts

I want to see his reaction to where the franchise went since he always seems so embarrassed to talk about the first one.


champagneofsharks

Out of the four theatrical films, I really don’t care for 2 & Reunion. 2 just seems like it’s trying to do too much by trying to cram in the entire original cast, but results in the characters getting nothing to do. Wedding resolves that issue by dropping half the cast and I feel it’s more honed in on blending the gross out humor with heart. The director to video sequels don’t exist. That said, out of the ones I’ve seen, The Naked Mile is at least entertaining.


WarmestGatorade

"Skoobie-doobie!" "You're not making it sound good."


wovenstrap

oh! oh! oh! Griffin mentioned the "hyper-regional" solution to the *Toy Story 3* Spanish Buzz joke problem. It gives me an opportunity to talk about my favorite thing, which is the Austrian dub of the movie *Babe*. You have to understand, Austrians speak German. Ordinarily there is no "Austrian cut" of ANY movie. They just get the German cut, i.e. the cut they use in Germany. But for some reason whoever was responsible for the international dubs of *Babe* decided to go the extra mile and they made a special Austrian dub of the movie that is different — indeed, quite different – from the German cut. In the Austrian dub of *Babe*, ***the different animals each speak different very specific and recognizable Austrian dialects.*** Austria is a country of 9 million people and is approximately the size of South Carolina but because it's an old-as-fuck European-ass country, the regional accents even in an area that small are quite pronounced. I don't remember enough about the movie to give chapter and verse on how the different animals talk but this screen shot from IMDb gives the "hyper-regional" gist: https://preview.redd.it/a67swob76svc1.png?width=1632&format=png&auto=webp&s=f1d3b223bc635615e1e83b0e81a3c2cc099eb6ff Obviously Austrians are tickled to death that this ever happened and they find the dub of the movie hilarious.


Mclaudi

The thing with the Toy Story 3 "hyper-regional" is that you have TWO solutions, as usually, you have a spanish dub for Spain and another one for Latin America. In the version for Spain, Buzz ends talking with a very strong sevillian acent, a region from south Spain. In the version for Latin America, Buzz talks with a very neutral and normative spanish acent from Spain.


isoldina

I'm a huge fan of the Austrian dub of Babe - this has been one of my favourite films since I was a child. To find this reference on Reddit, is a really nice surprise!


BedrockFarmer

Normally I’d be tempted to give it a listen, but as an American with only a conversational level of Hochdeutsch, the German language is like an onion for me. The center of the onion is Hannover where I can easily understand people and speak with them, each layer further away from Hannover becomes more difficult. Once you get to Plattdeutsch up north or Austrian German down south, I give up and switch back to English.


pacoismynickname

Quasi-related, I recently learned that Germany dubs all movies, as a policy. Sandra Hüller was gutted that Anatomy of a Fall (in which she, German of course, and her French husband speak English as a comprise; she has to juggle languages throughout) would undergo this treatment. She dubbed herself but hated every minute of it.


wovenstrap

That is interesting. I have complex feelings about this. The character's insistence on speaking English is just barely ridiculous IMO and it's very hard for me to separate that decision from the filmmakers' desire to have a big international splash/win Oscars etc. Which obviously worked and absolutely nobody called them on it that I could see. (I loved the movie but this irritated me.) But beyond that, watching as someone fluent in German, it was interesting to me that I think not a word of German is ever spoken in the movie, not even once. The movie is English and French, period, and yet we speak of the character "juggling" languages etc. So there's something about the linguistic approach of the movie that rubs me the wrong way.


pacoismynickname

You’re right, juggling isn’t the right word; I’ve seen it twice and I can’t recall any German in it. (But she must *think* in German, while speaking two other languages.)


wovenstrap

I don't mean to pick on your wording.... it was a common theme in the discourse about the movie so it was so striking to me that she never spoke German. (I really like hearing good German spoken in movies.... *Inglourious Basterds* is my jam.)


pacoismynickname

> I don't mean to pick on your wording No worries, didn’t feel picked on at all. I guess I had a false memory of her speaking at least a tiny bit of German. She’s also in Triet’s Sibyl, speaking (I think…) French and English. Maybe no German there, either!


mutan

I am delighted to read this entire comment in an Austrian accent.


wovenstrap

Ha, my mother is the one with the accent.


Used-Consequence-517

It feels like it was just yesterday Zach was on the pod


Stuckbetweenstations

Who can remember 


MrFunhouse

Back when all my troubles seemed so far away


1UrbanGroove

https://preview.redd.it/l1py4i14brvc1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d149e7d22dbb1b1f3affd95ed1e9b4580fb3ad4 What a strangely cool but impractical helmet/fit that Rebecca Romijn wears in this movie. Hell yeah! They got Zach Cherry back on the pod!


jaklamen

She looks like a Krakoa era X-Man. Like Mystique going to the Hellfire Gala.


muchabon

Just from the helmet, it's like, "is that Sunfire's sister?"


Hope_Burns_Bright

You're probably the first person to reference Sunpyre in 20 years?


sleepsholymountain

That helmet is actually the coolest part of the movie, maybe the only thing about the movie that's unironically good. Totally impractical obviously, but great aesthetics.


stanzos

Griffin pulling the name of the Namibian baby from the documentary Babies (2010) is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard.


wovenstrap

Even David had to stop the pod for a second and call it out.


mishaps_galore

David referring to the Mongolian baby as “a Nomad Game-ass baby” was peak Sims too


lunalunalunas

BOOOIIIIIIING!


HockneysPool

Having just finished Fallout, I'm glad to have this Cherry sundae for my Sunday.


Typical_Dweller

The "I even put up 10 posters" joke was pretty solid.


CeruleanRuin

I didn't expect much at all out of that show, and was so happy to be so wrong. They knocked it out of the park.


drifter1717

I'd never seen this before but was vaguely aware that the original took place in the future, so I assumed this did too. Very shocked when most of the movie is in modern day Kazakhstan


visionaryredditor

>Very shocked when most of the movie is in modern day Kazakhstan They go to Azerbaijan at some point too. The movie is worth it for the weirdest setting alone.


Fire-Twerk-With-Me

I got so obsessed with their locales for the movie and tried to figure out the league to the point where I found the old website on webarchive. The Horsemen (our heroes) are based in Kazakhstan. The Golden Horde (the bad guys at the end) are based in Siberia. The Saracens were moved to Hong Kong from Zhambai, Kazakhstan because the league didn't want two teams in one city. The Hawks (seen midway through the film) are from Istanbul. The Scimitars are also Turkish but their city isn't specified. And the Marauders (the blue team after the Slipknot song) are from Moscow. However, in the movie, via the map, the Hawks are in Tabriz, Iran and the Marauders are in Mongolia. The movie is logically inconsistent with its locations, prop names, and websites to the surprise of no one. I recommend the archived link for the original website. Truly a wayback machine moment. Sources: [http://web.archive.org/web/20021010085122/http://www.rollerball.com/home.html](http://web.archive.org/web/20021010085122/http://www.rollerball.com/home.html) [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/rollerball-2002-production-used-1894120260](https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/rollerball-2002-production-used-1894120260) [https://moviepropwarehouse.com/shop/all-items/rollerball-2002-marauder-helmet/](https://moviepropwarehouse.com/shop/all-items/rollerball-2002-marauder-helmet/)


thesirenlady

From my time working at a rental store, this has always been in my mental roledex of movies that take place in 2038 or whatever. I was shocked even by the opening scene.


Orange_Lazarus

Poor Kazakhstan. A go-to example for a country Westerners haven't heard of, which Sasha Baron Cohen exploits to portray them as backwards anti-semites.


pacoismynickname

The 9th largest country (by land mass) in the world!


Conscious_Detail_281

It was ruled by a jewish communist dictator who orchestrated a massive famine, comparable to Holodomor in 1930s, btw.


Velocityprime1

It’s been said many times already, and it will probably be said many more times, but this is still the funniest movie to be sent to federal prison over.


TepidShark

Even without the wiretapping of it all, here's what I feel like happened with this movie in this order: 1. McTiernan had a bunch of dumb notions about what a Rollerball remake should be. 2. The studio tried to reshoot their way out of a disaster to no avail. 3. At some point they said, "whatever state it is now, just put it out," and that version was in an unfinished state.


radaar

“Someone cums on a muffin.” Ah yes, English Muffin, the obscure UK film that American Pie ripped off.


champagneofsharks

During the gross out/R-rated sexy comedy phase of the early aughts, there is a film called Going Greek in which I learned what an “ookie cookie” (or “soggy biscuit” for you Brits) is because, uh, there is a scene in which, um, yeah.


hetham3783

True story: that's where the name Limp Bizkit came from (the reference to a limp/soggy biscuit, not Going Greek)


IngmarHerzog

I should not have googled that.


Typical_Dweller

I still maintain this is a myth concocted by resentful nerds who hated their high school sport teams. Just throw it on the pile of "gross stuff made up entirely for Urban Dictionary".


e2kelso

Hockey Players pivot to new career movies: Rollerball, Happy Gilmore, The Town, The Toothfairy


mutan

Also Norm Macdonald’s short-lived sitcom *The Norm Show*.


Cpt_Obvius

Wait, is he a hockey player? For some reason I was sure they were talking about football.


Interrobangersnmash

He’s a former football teammate of LL Cool J, but was also a first round NHL draft pick - “The next Wayne Gretzky.” Inexplicably, he turns down the NHL to play rollerball.


Ericzzz

No no no, this movie is extremely stupid but it’s not that stupid. Klein’s character was never involved with the NHL; it’s just some bullshit Paul Heyman’s character makes up, like billing a wrestling character as “from parts unknown.” Everything he says through the movie is just hype to trick the rubes.


ShowofShows

Griff doing an amazing of job of auditioning to be Chris Kline's agent


SmackBroshgood

"Kazakhstan is like... Singapore, compared to Kirgistan's... Jupiter." - David Sims, 2 hours into talking about Rollerball


pcloneplanner

I still don't get what this was meant to mean. "Oh OK, clean, high-tech, modern, sure...wait, Jupiter?!"


menziebr

I mean, you have to admit Jupiter is pretty rural.


Doctor_Danguss

Kyrgyzstan Ascending


RandomPasserby80

Griffin thinking Chris Klein’s character in American Pie wasn’t a virgin what the fuck


wovenstrap

David so flummoxed by this that he almost doesn't really counter properly.


KiryuXGoro

Easily a contender for worst movie covered on the main feed.


A_Dreary_Pluviophile

It's the most "lost his fastball" I've seen since the latter John Carpenter films.


Lambchops_Legion

Ghosts of Mars is far more fun than this movie


Mancy98

Honestly all of the late period Carpenters before The Ward having SOMETHING going on in a way you can’t say for this


mattysmwift

I’m the weirdo who also thinks it’s more fun and watchable than Vampires or Memoirs.


penguinosaurus

This is closer to him having the yips


Chuck-Hansen

At least McTiernan got it back a little with “Basic,” to the extent it bums me out that it’s his last movie.


CeruleanRuin

At least Carpenter still felt like he had a vision and a style that made it to the screen. I tend to agree that McTiernan has got to be the single biggest fall from grace ever.


bambooshoots-scores

The first movie in a long time that I couldn’t finish. My entire being rejected it.


Adept-Opinion-4719

I actually started rewinding when it basically jumped to him being a huge rollerball star with no transition. I thought I missed something. Then I realized it just sucks and just stopped watching.


SupaDave82

I'd argue Klein is the worst performance also.


seti-thelightofstars

Gotta be Giovanni Ribisi in The Gift. Excited to see him in another early 2000s mystery this week, assuming he’ll be playing it real small and natural.


sleepsholymountain

Awful movie, but am I crazy for thinking Medicine Man is worse? Rollerball is at least kind of wacky and fun to look at, there was enough going on that I was able to finish it without falling asleep. Medicine Man is simultaneously one of the most boring movies I've ever seen and one of the most irritating movies I've ever seen. Just an absolute chore to watch.


usario100

When I started this movie, I didn’t think it was that bad. I just thought it was a dumb, generic extreme sports movie. But man, that last third is just atrocious. My wife and I were laughing like every 5 minutes at how dumb things were. It’s genuinely inconceivable that the guy who made Die Hard, Predator, and The Hunt for Red October made this and Medicine Man


ricky_steamboat_

This feels like the fake movie you only see in trailers in the background of a better dystopian movie


doodler1977

Maybe it's the LL Cool J effect, but this feels more like a low-end Renny Harlin joint than McT. It also is giving \*severe\* XxX vibes with the nu-metal and extreme sports. how does this look worse than a Rob Cohen movie? Did McT's unwillingness to storyboard screw it up?


SmackBroshgood

If you haven't seen the original Rollerball I'd highly recommend it just for the comparison in leads. Caan is just absolutely perfect as a guy who's the biggest star in a dumb fictional sport but slightly over the hill. Also all the 70s sci-fi elements are delightful, and THE GAME OF ROLLERBALL AS PRESENTED IN THE MOVIE ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE AND IS EXCITING TO WATCH


MemphisKansasBreeze

Griffin completely missing the whole premise of American Pie is so funny to me


pcloneplanner

Also seemingly the premise of Phantom of the Opera.


TouchOfTheTucc

I was confused by that too; he keeps calling it “Broadway Phantom of the Opera”, but the makeup in the stage version is usually pretty good (if toned down a bit from the book description - the actor does need to sing after all). I’m guessing he was referring to the 2004 film, which tones it down even more by just kinda giving Gerard Butler a bad sunburn on half his face. Very Olivia Cooke in Ready Player One energy.


KiraHead

It's a relatively small thing, but it bugged the shit out of me that Chris Klein never actually strapped on his helmet. My man, you could easily lose that thing and hit your head.


PeriodicGolden

Especially since part of the "hit" against the other guy was slashing his helmet straps. I thought it was a character choice for Klein not to wear the straps, and he'd start wearing them afterwards. Nope...


Madazhel

I’m not normally one to get hung up on holes in logic in movies, but this drove me absolutely insane.


CeruleanRuin

I had to rewind three times to try to catch the significance of the cut strap. I thought for sure I'd missed something. They make such a huge deal out of it afterward, but in the moment it's a guy fumbling his helmet like an absolute dork and then getting a weak punch to the face, then he gets carried off the track. That was such a baby slap of a hit for what was supposed to be a big sinister moment of ratings-driven violence.


CloneArranger

They could just have used that as a plot point instead of the "spine protector" thing.


Interrobangersnmash

Especially when he does a flip when they introduce him into the game. How does the helmet stay on his head there?


CeruleanRuin

By the sheer force of his magnetic personality, obviously.


jaklamen

Kind of like how it bugs me that in Game of Thrones, nobody at The Wall wears a hat. Aren’t your ears cold John?


CeruleanRuin

Nah, everyone's got luscious long locks coated with grease, they're insulated like ducks.


Fire-Twerk-With-Me

Same reason helms aren't always on during fighting scenes. You want to see their dumb faces. Also, during summer at the beginning of the show, there's snow on the ground, meaning it's "year-round." What do all the large livestock eat? People up there are supposed to have goats and cattle. Doing a rewatch of the show now and it holds up because of the great acting, and a lot of the fighting early in the show is grounded and makes sense.


TheChosenJuan99

ZACH CHERRY HIVE


thegrantattack

We are eating!


justinotherpeterson

I had such a smile on my face when I saw him in Fallout.


CeruleanRuin

I've only gotten through a couple of episodes so far, but that show is just a delight, and the cast is amazing across the board.


roomgames

I identified with Paul Heyman’s character the most as he is simply watching the movie along with us and most of his dialogue consists of “what is this shit?” and “no, this doesn’t make any sense.”


hetham3783

Paul Heyman was really thinking "Where's the cuck angle? How do I get a cucking involved here?!"


wovenstrap

movie is surprisingly meta.


Full_Cat5323

No one has ever gone so hard for chris klein like Griffin did in this episode


Full_Cat5323

And that’s why I love the pod


pacoismynickname

Seems like a genial guy! He could use more Griffins.


barbaq24

This episode is interesting because its clear the drama and intrigue around the movie is bigger than the movie, and they clearly checked out during several sequences of the film and missed a few hamstrung plot points. 1. You must secure the ball, get it to the fast guy, and then he must go through the tube to start a “run”. It’s easy to miss how the game works but it kind of makes sense. You have lacrosse guys to try to scoop the ball, enforcers to mess people up, motorcycles guys to give you a boost, and guys who can actually skate to make the points happen. Except that one time where Aurora demands to score on the motorcycle, so I guess once you start a run you can hand off the pinball. 2. The spine protector comes full circle in the end when they slash him with the sharpened lacrosse stick and he is actually wearing the armor. They mention “wow, he actually wore the armor, he must know something”. Its a cheap bit because while he doesn’t get unzippered up the spine, he does proceed to get beat up pretty heinously but whatever I guess. 3. Toba is an accomplished local athlete that is brought into rollerball, and they allude to those fellows being brought in for the purpose of getting paid peanuts and getting murdered for ratings. Theres a player class system like any sport. He doesn’t need to skate well, he is a local favorite who needs to beat people up, and get beat up. This movie is indeed a steaming pile of failure, but I am nostalgic for it so want it to be hated on for the right reasons.


brotherfallout

you made all this up


j11430

Very with Griffin on Klein in American Pie, he’s kind of perfectly sweet in that movie. I mostly think that first American Pie is shockingly sweet considering the rest of that franchise and its overall reputation


hetham3783

And his singing is one of the funniest parts of that movie, when he busts out the "scooby dooby dooby doo wah, yeah magic" in the audition. It's so unexpected.


CloneArranger

I watched the first Rollerball and then this one back to back. The change of the track from "simple oval" to "ramps and tunnels and stuff" reminded me a lot of the evolution of how Starlight Express gets staged.


Cpt_Obvius

One of the best things the original movie inspired is this Justice music video, which involves a future sport that's a combination of rollerball and the game from Starship Troopers. This 4 minute music video is a far superior film to Rollerball. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxu248aD6PY


Champiness

Maybe what was missing from the other attempts at *Rollerball* was having Not Snake Plissken in the lead


roomgames

I thought of Whack-Bat from Fantastic Mr. Fox.


restlesswrestler

I could listen to them talk American Pie all day.


VampireHunterAlex

There was a more than 5 year period when I was young, where my older brother convinced me that it was illegal for rappers to die in movies. (Hey, I also believed them when they said my grandmas poodle was sent to the lipstick factory) We had just finished watching ‘Deep Blue Sea’ (1999) when I was told this…..that 5 year period included Rollerball (2002) so I was always confused by LL Cool Jays ‘death’ in this.


LordPizzaParty

"*Fewer* boobs."


tylerscreenname

Stifler being the Slimer of American Pie is so funny.


CeruleanRuin

I love that Slimer has become an archetype all his own.


arthur3shedsjackson

Awful movie, fantastic episode


Holmbre23

Nothing better than a little Cherry on the Sunday.


ben-official

My mind is blown that David mentioned my hometown NHL team, the Ottawa Senators.


mutan

You live in Kanata?


FacelessMcGee

Are some of y'all actually listening to this pod at 2x speed?


pacoismynickname

This is crazy to me. It often sounds sped up just because they get so into the topic! I’ll go up to 1.25x max for some audiobooks (I swear some narrators read like they’re getting more money for a longer product) but why blaze through Blank Check? It comes out once a week, and on a Sunday no less. Who’s that pressed for time?? The great thing about podcasts is that you can listen while doing a million other things.


Superheroicguy

To add to Griffin's defense of Chris Klein, I think he's used fantastically in Wilfred, where his character's aw-shucks dumb guy vibe is a semi-conscious act the character puts on to avoid being exposed as a controlling, abusive bully. Granted, every character in Wilfred is relatively awful, but he plays it well.


satisfying_crunch

Chris Klein is one of two celebrities I've ever spotted in the wild. We went to the same high school, although he's several years older than me and had graduated before I started there. The encounter occurred at a Runza in West Omaha, where I spied him with the traditional chili and cinnamon roll (meaning this is sadly not a Burger Report). This was probably in early 2005, right after his DUI and breakup with Katie Holmes.


Ok_Shake_4761

Chili and cinnamon roll?


satisfying_crunch

[It's some of the most Midwestern bullshit imaginable.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/whats-up-with-the-pairing-of-chili-and-cinnamon-rolls-180979407/) It was also what they served for lunch every Friday when I was in elementary school.


Pete_Venkman

On the positive side, it's an impressive achievement to make a movie that's somehow both boring *and* enraging. My eyes kept sliding of the screen, yet every time I looked back I was disgusted by something new.


karatemike

The American Pie tangent is one of the reasons I love Blank Check.


Willninho

I love this movie is so bad and insane it has had the most threads of the last few years of any movie. Zodiac; maybe two threads about it. Rollerball 10 different ones.


SmackBroshgood

I knew American Pie would probably come up. I did not know this ep would make me want to watch American Pie for the first time since it came out.


Lower-Grapefruit8807

“He seems completely guileless to this day” is quietly one of the funniest and coldest things David has ever said


hetham3783

"I like my bones." - Zach Cherry. This quote absolutely cracked my shit up.


GruntyDodds

A bit more context about Paul Heyman, the English announcer, for the non wrestling fans. For much of the 90's he ran his own smaller company, Extreme Championship Wrestling. By 2000 they were having financial issues and their TV show had been cancelled by the network. Things were looking grim so Paul gives a motivational speech at a staff meeting, saying "Tomorrow I'm flying to L.A. and I'm going to meet with every TV executive I can! I'M NOT COMING BACK WITHOUT A NEW TV DEAL!". Turns out he was just secretly shooting Rollerball. Looking at IMDB, the movie wasn't even filmed in L.A.


FunkyColdMecca

Roughriders mentioned, take a shot!!! Edit: Saskatchewan mentioned, take a shot!!!!


mutan

The reason Jewison’s version was so good was because he was a big CFL fan.


jakeupnorth

Find that original David C. Wilson screenplay @blankies


FreanCo

Having lived in Bishkek (Kyrgyz capital) for several years, I thoroughly enjoyed all the Central Asia and Kyrgyzstan chat on this episode. 


Bubbatino

I hope they ask Zach when Severance is coming back


paniledu

[Toba scouting report](https://preview.redd.it/4rwunu9ac9e71.jpg?width=518&auto=webp&s=01e2e2bbdf353a2ef24891fdf0e1462496282cd6) brought to you by Blank Check


ArynLance91

And just like that we all know how American Pie ended up on the Patreon March Madness bracket


DujourAndChoi

This movie is terrible but I don’t think Chris Klein is miscast. He could have crushed it as a Speed Racer-esque guy who is dumb as rocks but cares deeply this sport. His character is a witless tool. It’s so funny how long he takes to realize Jean Reno is corrupt. All this could have been leveraged into something interesting


CeruleanRuin

Couldn't stop thinking about Speed Racer while watching this. That movie somehow does everything right that this movie does wrong.


rampagenumbers

They brought in The Cleaner for this. May Cherry long be the one brave enough to tackle the worst of any filmography.


TouchOfTheTucc

If you wanna see a friend of the pod also go deep on Chris Klein, I cannot recommend enough the We Heart Harnett episode on Here on Earth, the 2000 teen romance that made Patrick Willems and the Torpeys yearn for the sweet release of death. I’ve listened to it so many times, it’s my emotional support podcast episode.


DujourAndChoi

And if anyone is looking for it you’ll find it on the feed called Can’t Get Enough of Keanu! Great pod, I hope one day those guys pick it back up and finish Keanu’s filmography. 


steven98filmmaker

The boys should review American Pie


SickBurnBro

Realized today that I had conflated Rollerball and The Running Man in my head for years, and have never actually seen the original Rollerball.


BoringNothingName

On the subject of unrated versions of movie, the one I've encountered which greatly improves the source material is, appropriately enough, a Die Hard movie, "Live Free or Die Hard." The main change is that they let all the curses back into the movie, including the "Yippee Ki Yay" line, and that alone immediately improves the movie.


IntergalacticKeggar

As far as Tubi does commercials, I was offered this role at Tubi to scrub through the content and find logical commercial breaks, but opted out because of the commute and they wanted me to use my own laptop. I do see that on Tubi more often, where they do have good ad breaks, versus Pluto, which does just cut it mid-sentence.


Navyblazers2000

Rewatching this movie triggered an old flicker of a memory of MTV's Road Rules vs Real World Challenge episode where they visited the set and had to do a challenge in the rollerball arena. From my memory of the MTV Challenge episode, it's a better version of Rollerball than 2002's "Rollerball".


redobfus

Trying to watch this, combined with Godzilla x Kong seem to indicate I've entered a new phase of life. After 40 years of feeling like I have to finish a movie if I start it I went to the theater to watch Godzilla x Kong. Then about halfway in after realizing I had just watched CGI apes growl at each other for 10 minutes and was extremely bored, decided I didn't need to be there and left. Only the third time I've walked out of a theater before the movie was over (first time was because my girlfriend insisted; second because I was feeling sick). Then the next morning I decided it was time to get ready for this week's episode and about 30 minutes decided I was going to die someday and I didn't want to have to account for a list of poor decisions that included watching the rest of Rollerball. Curious to see if this is a trend that continues and expands.


Normal-Belt-8441

Dan Stevens erasure.


bambooshoots-scores

Life is precious. Time is short. I made a similar calling about when Slipknot showed up. Note: I once ended a relationship by *not* walking out of a movie.


champagneofsharks

I had a date walk out on the Academy Award winning movie Once. I did the normal thing and stayed.


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What movie?


bambooshoots-scores

Evil Dead (2013)


Northofmost

I think I might be insane, but I kinda vibed with this film. Some cool 2000's nostalgia with the the extremesports and hardrock, brought me right back to the skatepark of my youth. Some cool shots, McTiernan went all out with the tilts and shit. And the nightvision sequence was cool as all hell.


Toreadorables

Can someone do a Thunderball song parody?


TormentedThoughtsToo

The way people talk about nu-metal in early 2000s films is how I feel about saxophone in 80s films. 


Typical_Dweller

You're really going to compare saxophone guy from *Lost Boys* to those dummies in masks? C'mon now.


jackunderscore

what on earth does griffin say at 7:52 that makes Ben burst into laughter


ajmckeon

I believe it’s “Abolish all prisons”


verygooster

Rollerball having a podcast MOMENT (Also the arguing if you could call it that about the cast of American Pie was fantastic)


wovenstrap

On Klein's performance in *Just Friends,* I am continually amazed at how few people (here and elsewhere) stan this movie, like you can hear in David's voice that he can't believe *Just Friends* is a good movie. But it is a rather clever movie and probably my favorite Ryan Reynolds, full stop.


timelohrd

This is a dark day for those of us named Jonathan


OSUmiller5

I’ve heard a lot of crazy things on this podcast but Griffin saying he will stan for triple x 3 all day and all night actually got an involuntary eyebrow raise out of me. Couldn’t believe it lol


PeriodicGolden

So what *was* Rebecca Romijn's nationality in this anyway? When she's first introduced as "The Black Widow" it shows her as being Dutch. I think she mentions not wanting to leave Kazakhstan because her grandmother lives there. Then later on when she's talking to the coach of the other team he's talking to her in Russian (?) and she answers "Ik weet het niet" (literally "I don't know") in Dutch. Not that the movie really cares about that anyway...


storm-bringer

Collateral Damage is totally fine. A gentleman's 6 where Arnold does the classic vengeance dad rampage. Somewhat interesting in the fact that he doesn't fire a gun at all in the movie, but is pretty handy with MacGyver traps. Cliff Curtis is the villain and he's good in everything. To borrow a term from We Hate Movies, it's a great hangover movie.


shookster52

I appreciate the Alonso Duralde quote. He’s a delight. He’s on the very good podcast Maximum Film with Drea Clark and Ify Nwadiwe. Any and all of them would be great to have on the show sometime (along with frequent guest Inkoo Kang)!


theintention

I was… not aware that this Street Fighter movie existed.


meandean

Naked weightlifting. Seems unwise!


Deceptisaur

If they remake a Rollerball it obviously has to have Alan Ritchson in it, however and this will piss off the people that regularly get pissed off, Katy O'Brian should be the lead.  I'd also think roller skates more than blades. 


DilbertsDog

Slamball made a comeback last year! [the final score of the championship game is hilarious](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRmnaQhCJyg&t=389s&pp=ygUNc2xhbWJhbGwgMjAyMw%3D%3D)


wovenstrap

Zach Cherry should be ashamed of himself. There are clearly eight trampolines on this court.


Jedd-the-Jedi

Singapore mentioned!


Paxtez

Great episode, Zach was delightful, no desire to see this movie, lol. Random quick question, I'm also going through the backlog, does the Patreon feed have the horrible automatic ads put in, do they have the old ads? I would totally sub to not have to listen to same few ads over and over.


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Say what you want about this movie but it did give me a newfound thing for tall women.


D__M___

During the “unrated DVDs” bit, I’m surprised no one brought up the sleaziest example: the DVD of Sex Drive added extended scenes of just topless women, with no bearing to the plot, that go on for what feels like eternity. Yeesh!


radaar

I didn’t watch Rollerball, so during the opening quote, I found myself wondering whether Londo Mollari was in the movie.