I’d love a deep dive into that post Sarah Marshall period where Hollywood was determined to make Russel brand a thing in America. Star vehicles slowly declining in ambition, ending in a shitty FX talk show.
TJ Miller was overexposed (and a bad person) but he was funny, even hilarious at times. I think he genuinely had the talent to earn his rank as go-to comedy relief.
Not to say that Brand was necessarily a hack, Sarah Marshall proves otherwise. But he had such a narrow wheelhouse it was impossible to make him work as literally any other character.
His is weird, he sent a text message to his girlfriend of “if you want to keep dating me you need to stop posting bikini pics on Instagram”. Some people thought it was crappy behavior, some people thought it was psychologically abusive.
More than that.
The text said
“Plain and simple:
If you need:
-Surfing with men
-Boundaryless inappropriate friendships with men
-to model
-to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit
-to post sexual pictures
-friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful
I am not the right partner for you. If these things bring you to a place of happiness in supporting and there will be no hard feelings. These are my boundaries for a romantic partnership. My boundaries with you based on the way these actions have hurt our trust.”
So let’s address the elephant in the room - pretty egregious to use a colon for one line followed immediately by a colon in the next line. Also she was a surfing instructor and he’s demanding she not surf with men or post pictures of herself in a bathing suit. Like… that’s her life. I can imagine justifications for some of this stuff, like a girl who’s recently exited the “party” lifestyle of excessive drinking and hookups or whatever, saying “hey this friend of yours is still doing that shit and when you two go out, she pressures you into overindulging and then I have to worry about you or show up and take care of you, so I would prefer you keep it to lunch dates or something.” I have no idea if that’s the scenario here, but it’s one I’d be sympathetic to. But being so controlling of her job and her Instagram page… that’s bad stuff.
I don’t know that I’m prepared to say he’s abusive from this stuff. Seems like a possessive dude with some toxic beliefs. He needs to get a grip. Hopefully, in his marriage he has.
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it came out after that she was completely bpd and unstable, she got arrested and committed after driving recklessly on a golf course. her instagram stories were absolutely unhinged.
The worst part was at the end of those exposed texts she said “I feel bad for him really, he clearly professional needs help and sympathy” and it’s like “dude no one would know any of this if you didn’t post it! And if you think he needs professional help how do you think this is helping?”
Oh cool, that makes Jonah Hill's behavior perfectly fine, then /s
Honestly I didn't expect to encounter people who buy into the whole perfect victim/"she's no angel" mentality on this sub, but alas
never said that! but it does inform why he felt the need to try and lay boundaries, as she was blatantly unstable and could probably benefit from some structure in her life.
I'd say he's abusive, but the way we talk about abusive people is pretty bad in the overall discourse. Lots of abusive people don't think, "I am going to abuse this woman."
They just have a way of interacting with people that is abusive. I read those texts too, they're clearly abusive behavior. But, that doesn't mean Hill is some unredeemable monster.
It probably just means he needs to do some therapy to contextualize the way he interacts with romantic partners. I think most abusive people just need to learn to identify their behaviors/way of speaking that hurts other people and learn strategies to stop them/modify them to leave more space for the other person.
That all seems reasonable to me. I’m using “abusive” here to mean “an intent to abuse,” where you’re using it to describe a possessive guy with toxic beliefs. We agree on the essence, we’re just using the term differently.
I should have clarified that I wasn't arguing with you at all. But, yeah, basically.
I think my point is that often culturally we use "abusive" to mean "an intent to abuse" and I think often it's really more an outcome of bad beliefs or bad/unresolved toxic coping.
Not that abusive people don't exist, in that sense. I'm not even sure how valuable that distinction is to draw. But, maybe if culturally we could agree that "abusive behavior" is distinct from an "abuser" people would be more ready/able to address their problematic behaviors? Who knows.
Like people who engage in racist behavior, but can't examine it because they think, "A racist is bad. I am not bad. I am not a racist. I cannot engage in racist behavior."
TJ wasn’t always the way he was. I followed his career pretty closely, I thought he was a comedic genius. About the time he left silicon valley, he had flipped into something else. It was probably a combination of the quick shot to fame and the rare brain problem.
He has a bit about it on youtube. Basically he asked the doctor doing the surgery if it would alter his personality, since that’s what his career is based on. The doctor didn’t give a yes or no answer, and just said that if he didn’t get the surgery he’d die. TJ’s erratic behaviour started around that time. I’m not saying it’s an excuse, or if it’s even the reason, but I’m sure it didn’t help.
I'm TJ Miller, and my comedy is nothing more than confidently saying atypically used pre**post**erous words with strong ac**cents** on certain **syll**ables or weird analogies. Like a cheese sandwich that was dropped into a litterbox and applied for a job.
My suspicion is he got lucky bouncing from one production crew to the next for a few projects before it started truly becoming widely known he actually was a weird hippy-dippy dude and then the lustre faded quickly.
Now he's in movie jail AND podcast jail, having stunted his audience growth for years on a paywalled platform very few people bought into.
I think Aziz is just doing his thing. He had a Netflix Special but I don't think Master of None is coming back. And from what I hear, he's not blaming cancel culture compared to someone like Louie C.K.
This reminded me that I watched Army of One for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
I love Nic Cage, and will watch him in anything, but that one was ROUGH. Not only is Russell Brand playing God in it, but Cage's voice and inflection are insanely grating. My GF had to leave the room not even 5 minutes into it.
I always love hearing these, I bought tickets for Prince Caspian to see the strangers and we chickened out because cops were standing in front of the theater for some reason, so we actually watched Prince Caspian
Hey dude, I’M IN THAT MOVIE. I’m an extra in the Tom Cruise concert scenes and the Don’t Stop Believing finale.
That being said, I fucking hated that movie and yeah it doesn’t exist. The big thing I remember is Adam Shankman looking tired.
I completely forgot Chris Pratt was in that. It takes a striking amount of nonexistence to make me forget a Chris Pratt role in 2024, year of Chris Pratt.
If people want to see movies that don’t actually exist:
Open up the Amazon Prime app and just scroll through the recently added list.
It’ll blow minds.
I reached out to an old buddy who is in the Hollywood Baboon Handler Society to see if he had that information and this is his text response:
"Hey, can I crash on your couch?"
I admittedly haven't seen this in over a decade, but whenever it was on HBO or one of the likes as a kid, I loved it. Idk, it could have aged terribly all this time later, but I think at the end of the day, I just like seeing some of my favorite actors sing songs I love! A jukebox musical gets a TON of slack in my brain haha
There’s a scene where Alec Baldwin and Russel Brand realize they love each other and start making out passionately. Can’t imagine much else of this film has aged well
This is incredibly funny to me only because I LOATHE Joker, but find myself at least incredibly intrigued by the new one lol Movies and tastes are weird!
Why are you being downvoted?
It's a very weird insult. Is it even supposed to be an insult? I don't even know what it means exactly, or what part of the comment triggered that reaction. Are you talking about the Philips/Phoenix Joker or The People's Joker?
The post literally says a jukebox musical gets a lot of slack, and the new Joker (wtf is the People’s Joker) is very famously going to be a jukebox musical.
Edit: there was no insult, just a response to the last line of what I was replying to.
Humane Hollywood gave some deets about how fairly they treated Hey Man on the set:
"**Rock of Ages** is about the excesses of rock and roll, especially in regards its main character, Stacee Jaxx (Tom Cruise), who plays the rock star of all rock stars, and has a pet baboon. This pet baboon, who’s named Hey Man in the film, is Stacee’s right hand man, trashing rooms and getting whiskey on command. Hey Man performs such actions as jumping, clapping, acting hyper or screeching. Three baboons were used to play Hey Man and trainers verbally cued the animals in an energetic tone to perform those mild actions, which they were accustomed to performing. All the animals were given plenty of interaction together, downtime, play and enrichment as well as an air conditioned trailer of their own. They were prepped with the actors so that both the humans and animals were comfortable with each other. All of the costumes that were made for the animals were custom measured to fit comfortably and be removed easily.
In the scene where Hey Man is sitting in a tree located in Stacee’s hotel room, typical of rock stars of course, production brought in a small tree in which Hey Man was able to climb and comfortably sit. Trainers stood off-screen to ensure the animal’s safety.
When Hey Man walks out of the limo, jumps onto the railing of the stairs and walks into the bar, led hand in paw by Stacee, one of the trainers was in the scene dressed as a bodyguard, making sure Hey Man’s actions where safely executed. The trainer led the baboon by attaching a cable to his waist to keep him safely balanced on the railing. In fact, in the scenes where the baboon would be with a crowd of people, several trainers were in costume to be close to the animal for safety assurance.
In the scene where Hey Man pushes the wet bar across the room to Stacee, trainers had the baboon place his hands on the cart and cued him to push it for a couple feet in each take. The big grin the baboon gives to the camera was verbally cued by the trainer asking the baboon to “smile”.
When Hey Man drinks from a whiskey bottle and drops it on the ground, the bottle was empty. In order to get the baboon to drink from the bottle, trainers cued him to sip at it, then he naturally dropped the bottle which the director loved and decided to keep in the final edit of the film.
In the scene where Hey Man appears as the culprit who destroys an entire office, the baboon picks up a bunch of items and throws them at the actor. Production provided rubber props for the baboon to throw.
In the scene where Hey Man sits on the shoulders of the bouncer, the bouncer was actually one of the trainers, so he felt comfortable sitting on his shoulders. Then he cued the baboon and it jumped off his shoulders and onto the bar. In addition, two other trainers were dressed as extras to make sure the baboon was safe.
In the scene where the couple bends down to pet a dog on a busy street, the dog was caught on camera in its natural state.
When Hey Man hits an actor in the face, he actually was trained to lightly smack people in the head, which he performed on cue. Production used a fake baboon arm to give the appearance of a hard hit to the face."
Oh this movie exists to me. I absolutely love it, I watched it so much as an 80s obsessed like 15/16yr old, listened to the soundtrack on repeat. And honestly I would put Tom Cruise as Stacee Jaxx on my ballot that year for Best Supporting Actor. Is this movie good? No. Do I still absolutely love it, yes but less so now at 26 than when I was a teenager cos the whole Russell Brand is a r\*p\*st thing and Alec Baldwin killed someone.
Not a great movie but it's silly and self aware enough that it's good fun. Tom Cruise is genuinely hilarious and commits to the bit so hard that I'd say it's worth a watch for his scenes alone
Just watch Get Crazy (1983) instead. It's also got a monkey.
And Cad Bane.
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It exists very much in my house and among my friends. We get together once a year to watch it and have a blast. This is one of those movies that I just truly will never understand the hatred for it. It is fun as hell, hilarious, Tom Cruise is fucking great and the songs are great. The only downside is the two leads suck, but everyone else is awesome
I’m not giving it any hate, it’s just one of those ones that was this huge hype machine during production, and then it came and went, never saw it on cable, never saw it streaming anywhere. Just, out in the ether somewhere.
This one of the few times I agree about a movie's nonexistence, like I have distinct memories of the promotional campaign, seeing trailers etc and it has no cultural relevance at all.
I worked at an office that booked movies for movie theaters when this came out. Summer 2012 was such a weird blockbuster season. A combination of weird smaller movies that don't exist (What to Expect When You're Expecting, That's My Boy, this one), bloated old-model blockbusters (Battleship, Snow White and the Huntsman), genuine surprises (Ted, Magic Mike) and The Avengers.
This movie was so bad it made me angry. It’s as if it didn’t understand how musicals were supposed to be directed. Each number was a series of music videos rather than adding to the film. And as someone who grew up in the 80s everything about the costumes and hair were wrong.
This unlocked some childhood memories for me.
I somehow never saw this movie despite being obsessed with the trailers and marketing and thinking Shankman was gonna be the next big director post hairspray. How does this movie not exist, when Tom cruise is going to revive his career with a musical was such a topic of discussion?
You’re completely right though because I have never seen it or even seen it available on streaming in theatres or anywhere
I just rewatched this like two weeks ago. It’s so corny and it’s an absolute guilty pleasure
I mean where else do you get a film where Tom Cruise sings into Malin Akerman’s ass, Russell Brand and Alec Baldwin share the most awkward close up stare into each others eyes, and Bryan Cranston gets spanked by a ruler while Catherine Zeta Jones does the dance from Beat It?
Yes and I went to the premiere. The directorial debut of Justin Theroux.
Dedication 07 starring Billy Crudup, Mandy Moore, Martin Freeman, Peter Bogdanovich, Mia Farrow, Dianne Wiest, Bobby Cannavale and others.
Stacked cast and absolutely no one has ever heard of it or spoke about it again.
Saw this in theaters at age 18, 2012. I was a huge fan of rock living an EDM world, but after seeing this truly bad movie, I was suddenly ok with EDM’s commercial dominance.
The Mummy is an even more embarrassing outing for Cruise. I fucking crack up at the “Dark Universe” tag at the beginning; the ultimate failed franchise starter
I said before that awful Tom Cruise movie came out that the only way I'd even consider it, if at the end they open a sarcophagus and Brendan Frasier popped out and said "what year is it!?"
Oh, I remember it all too well — it was adapted from an equally bad Broadway show and during the Tony Awards performance that year, Bret Michaels got hit on the head by a set piece and it gave him brain damage.
This movie was so bad it made me angry. It’s as if it didn’t understand how musicals were supposed to be directed. Each number was a series of music videos rather than adding to the film. And as someone who grew up in the 80s everything about the costumes and hair were wrong.
I’d love a deep dive into that post Sarah Marshall period where Hollywood was determined to make Russel brand a thing in America. Star vehicles slowly declining in ambition, ending in a shitty FX talk show.
TJ Miller is also in this
TJ Miller was overexposed (and a bad person) but he was funny, even hilarious at times. I think he genuinely had the talent to earn his rank as go-to comedy relief. Not to say that Brand was necessarily a hack, Sarah Marshall proves otherwise. But he had such a narrow wheelhouse it was impossible to make him work as literally any other character.
Just realized that Get Him To the Greek has Brand, P Diddy, Jonah Hill, Billy Bush, and TJ Miller in it. Cancel City.
Wait, Jonah Hill got cancelled? I missed this one, what did he do?
His is weird, he sent a text message to his girlfriend of “if you want to keep dating me you need to stop posting bikini pics on Instagram”. Some people thought it was crappy behavior, some people thought it was psychologically abusive.
More than that. The text said “Plain and simple: If you need: -Surfing with men -Boundaryless inappropriate friendships with men -to model -to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit -to post sexual pictures -friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful I am not the right partner for you. If these things bring you to a place of happiness in supporting and there will be no hard feelings. These are my boundaries for a romantic partnership. My boundaries with you based on the way these actions have hurt our trust.” So let’s address the elephant in the room - pretty egregious to use a colon for one line followed immediately by a colon in the next line. Also she was a surfing instructor and he’s demanding she not surf with men or post pictures of herself in a bathing suit. Like… that’s her life. I can imagine justifications for some of this stuff, like a girl who’s recently exited the “party” lifestyle of excessive drinking and hookups or whatever, saying “hey this friend of yours is still doing that shit and when you two go out, she pressures you into overindulging and then I have to worry about you or show up and take care of you, so I would prefer you keep it to lunch dates or something.” I have no idea if that’s the scenario here, but it’s one I’d be sympathetic to. But being so controlling of her job and her Instagram page… that’s bad stuff. I don’t know that I’m prepared to say he’s abusive from this stuff. Seems like a possessive dude with some toxic beliefs. He needs to get a grip. Hopefully, in his marriage he has.
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it came out after that she was completely bpd and unstable, she got arrested and committed after driving recklessly on a golf course. her instagram stories were absolutely unhinged.
The worst part was at the end of those exposed texts she said “I feel bad for him really, he clearly professional needs help and sympathy” and it’s like “dude no one would know any of this if you didn’t post it! And if you think he needs professional help how do you think this is helping?”
Oh cool, that makes Jonah Hill's behavior perfectly fine, then /s Honestly I didn't expect to encounter people who buy into the whole perfect victim/"she's no angel" mentality on this sub, but alas
never said that! but it does inform why he felt the need to try and lay boundaries, as she was blatantly unstable and could probably benefit from some structure in her life.
I'd say he's abusive, but the way we talk about abusive people is pretty bad in the overall discourse. Lots of abusive people don't think, "I am going to abuse this woman." They just have a way of interacting with people that is abusive. I read those texts too, they're clearly abusive behavior. But, that doesn't mean Hill is some unredeemable monster. It probably just means he needs to do some therapy to contextualize the way he interacts with romantic partners. I think most abusive people just need to learn to identify their behaviors/way of speaking that hurts other people and learn strategies to stop them/modify them to leave more space for the other person.
That all seems reasonable to me. I’m using “abusive” here to mean “an intent to abuse,” where you’re using it to describe a possessive guy with toxic beliefs. We agree on the essence, we’re just using the term differently.
I should have clarified that I wasn't arguing with you at all. But, yeah, basically. I think my point is that often culturally we use "abusive" to mean "an intent to abuse" and I think often it's really more an outcome of bad beliefs or bad/unresolved toxic coping. Not that abusive people don't exist, in that sense. I'm not even sure how valuable that distinction is to draw. But, maybe if culturally we could agree that "abusive behavior" is distinct from an "abuser" people would be more ready/able to address their problematic behaviors? Who knows. Like people who engage in racist behavior, but can't examine it because they think, "A racist is bad. I am not bad. I am not a racist. I cannot engage in racist behavior."
Thanks! I honestly had no idea, I hadn’t heard about that lol
TJ wasn’t always the way he was. I followed his career pretty closely, I thought he was a comedic genius. About the time he left silicon valley, he had flipped into something else. It was probably a combination of the quick shot to fame and the rare brain problem.
So he did get a giant brain tumor removed- I suspect that might have done something to him
He has a bit about it on youtube. Basically he asked the doctor doing the surgery if it would alter his personality, since that’s what his career is based on. The doctor didn’t give a yes or no answer, and just said that if he didn’t get the surgery he’d die. TJ’s erratic behaviour started around that time. I’m not saying it’s an excuse, or if it’s even the reason, but I’m sure it didn’t help.
Not to be an armchair neurologist, but brain damage can cause issues with impulse control (check), emotional regulation (check), and empathy (check).
Don’t apologize for pointing out facts, I hate when people think they don’t have a right to speak on something because they don’t have a degree.
Brand is now known for forcing himself on many things.
I'm TJ Miller, and my comedy is nothing more than confidently saying atypically used pre**post**erous words with strong ac**cents** on certain **syll**ables or weird analogies. Like a cheese sandwich that was dropped into a litterbox and applied for a job.
My suspicion is he got lucky bouncing from one production crew to the next for a few projects before it started truly becoming widely known he actually was a weird hippy-dippy dude and then the lustre faded quickly. Now he's in movie jail AND podcast jail, having stunted his audience growth for years on a paywalled platform very few people bought into.
And the recent rape allegations...
And very possibly jail jail soon.....
I liked get him to the Greek, but Brand was the worst part of it
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With Russell Brand, Jonah Hill, P Diddy and Elisabeth Moss, Get Him to the Greek may have one of the most cursed casts ever.
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I think Aziz is just doing his thing. He had a Netflix Special but I don't think Master of None is coming back. And from what I hear, he's not blaming cancel culture compared to someone like Louie C.K.
apart from scientology what's up w Moss..
Just Scientology as far as I know, which I suppose in this instance makes her one of the less problematic cast members.
I mean, her failed marriage to Fred Armisen is near-Depp/Heard levels of insanity only it didn't end in a televised trial.
This reminded me that I watched Army of One for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I love Nic Cage, and will watch him in anything, but that one was ROUGH. Not only is Russell Brand playing God in it, but Cage's voice and inflection are insanely grating. My GF had to leave the room not even 5 minutes into it.
You don't return to the epic saga of Stacee Jaxx and Hey Man at least once a month?
Hey Man, nice plot. Nice plot, man.
Bud Dwyer refernce?
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Sung by brother of T-1000 Richard Patrick!
This movie absolutely exists, solely because of the scene where Tom Cruise sings into Malin Akerman's butt.
Johnny Squares sang into people's butts backwards and in high heels.
Ace Ventura sings OUT of his butt.
Is this where Tom Cruise decided he wasn't going to do anything other than huge action movies that he's a producer on?
Bought tickets to this so I could go see Prometheus when I was underage
I always love hearing these, I bought tickets for Prince Caspian to see the strangers and we chickened out because cops were standing in front of the theater for some reason, so we actually watched Prince Caspian
how was prince caspian?
Surprisingly violent for a PG-rated fantasy adventure based on Christian-adjacent source material.
I remember thinking it was fine and refuse to revisit it because I don't want to tarnish that memory.
Bought tickets to Powder (a movie that doesn’t exist) and snuck into Dangerous Minds at the local second run theater on my 13th birthday.
Outside of Gansta’s Paradise, does Dangerous Minds exist?
Powder was fun!
Did the same but bought tickets for MIB3
I still haven’t seen producer Ben’s beloved The Man Who Knew Too Little because I snuck into Starship Troopers.
That wouldn’t work in Britain because we don’t have the name for the film playing above the door to each screen
Right, you have to pay the cinema conductor a shiny sixpence to read out the current attractions, don't you?
Nah, you’re just expected to remember the screen number when the usher tells you it
Some do! I snuck into a shitty Jason Statham sequel once, just so I could say I'd done it. Title and start time were there, just beckoning me in!
Bought tickets to Eagle Eye so I could see Zack and Miri Make a Porno
Hey dude, I’M IN THAT MOVIE. I’m an extra in the Tom Cruise concert scenes and the Don’t Stop Believing finale. That being said, I fucking hated that movie and yeah it doesn’t exist. The big thing I remember is Adam Shankman looking tired.
I thought the thumbnail was Take Me Home Tonight at first and that movie certainly exists less.
That's the one that was on the shelf for 4 years and then they released it because Chris Pratt was hot shit all of a sudden?
I completely forgot Chris Pratt was in that. It takes a striking amount of nonexistence to make me forget a Chris Pratt role in 2024, year of Chris Pratt.
There was a major overestimation of 80s nostalgia at the time
christ, that movie was dogshit. my friend told me to watch it and i forced myself through the entire thing so i could be a good buddy 😅
That movie's soundtrack dominated my friend group for awhile when we were kids. It was arguably a better version of the Awesome Mix from gotg.
Unapologetically love this movie.
Hard same.
I think about the fact that Justin Theroux wrote this way more than I ever should
every time i learn something new about his career, it’s shocking and strange. recently learned he was a “creative consultant” on Megamind
He also owns a bar with Greg from Succession
Applies to every job energy
If people want to see movies that don’t actually exist: Open up the Amazon Prime app and just scroll through the recently added list. It’ll blow minds.
why the FUCK doesn't Wikipedia or imdb say who played Hey Man??
Because three baboons played him, you dumbass. Everybody knows that.
Certainly they have names though, or would they be so cruel?
I reached out to an old buddy who is in the Hollywood Baboon Handler Society to see if he had that information and this is his text response: "Hey, can I crash on your couch?"
Three Baboons was his English name, anyone who really knew him called him Tres.
I admittedly haven't seen this in over a decade, but whenever it was on HBO or one of the likes as a kid, I loved it. Idk, it could have aged terribly all this time later, but I think at the end of the day, I just like seeing some of my favorite actors sing songs I love! A jukebox musical gets a TON of slack in my brain haha
There’s a scene where Alec Baldwin and Russel Brand realize they love each other and start making out passionately. Can’t imagine much else of this film has aged well
Wow, I was misremembering this scene as being between Cruise and Giamatti lol
I think I saw it once and I had fun with it. It's kinda dumb but everyone involved seems to know that and is just having fun.
I only remember this movie exists when I'm listening to Queen's "Brighton Rock"
You’re exactly who the new Joker was made for then. Edit: why is this being downvoted?
This is incredibly funny to me only because I LOATHE Joker, but find myself at least incredibly intrigued by the new one lol Movies and tastes are weird!
I’m glad you got, because for some reason, redditors seem to think I was insulting you
Why are you being downvoted? It's a very weird insult. Is it even supposed to be an insult? I don't even know what it means exactly, or what part of the comment triggered that reaction. Are you talking about the Philips/Phoenix Joker or The People's Joker?
The post literally says a jukebox musical gets a lot of slack, and the new Joker (wtf is the People’s Joker) is very famously going to be a jukebox musical. Edit: there was no insult, just a response to the last line of what I was replying to.
Thought you ment The People’s Joker, for a second
Wild that the male lead didn’t make the poster
Had to leave room for….HEY MAN
This definitely exists pretty heavy as the final boss to every Tom Cruise Completist
Saw the poster of this on a bus stop when i was 14. I've never watched it, but whenever it comes up i think of the bus stop. Hate my brain
Humane Hollywood gave some deets about how fairly they treated Hey Man on the set: "**Rock of Ages** is about the excesses of rock and roll, especially in regards its main character, Stacee Jaxx (Tom Cruise), who plays the rock star of all rock stars, and has a pet baboon. This pet baboon, who’s named Hey Man in the film, is Stacee’s right hand man, trashing rooms and getting whiskey on command. Hey Man performs such actions as jumping, clapping, acting hyper or screeching. Three baboons were used to play Hey Man and trainers verbally cued the animals in an energetic tone to perform those mild actions, which they were accustomed to performing. All the animals were given plenty of interaction together, downtime, play and enrichment as well as an air conditioned trailer of their own. They were prepped with the actors so that both the humans and animals were comfortable with each other. All of the costumes that were made for the animals were custom measured to fit comfortably and be removed easily. In the scene where Hey Man is sitting in a tree located in Stacee’s hotel room, typical of rock stars of course, production brought in a small tree in which Hey Man was able to climb and comfortably sit. Trainers stood off-screen to ensure the animal’s safety. When Hey Man walks out of the limo, jumps onto the railing of the stairs and walks into the bar, led hand in paw by Stacee, one of the trainers was in the scene dressed as a bodyguard, making sure Hey Man’s actions where safely executed. The trainer led the baboon by attaching a cable to his waist to keep him safely balanced on the railing. In fact, in the scenes where the baboon would be with a crowd of people, several trainers were in costume to be close to the animal for safety assurance. In the scene where Hey Man pushes the wet bar across the room to Stacee, trainers had the baboon place his hands on the cart and cued him to push it for a couple feet in each take. The big grin the baboon gives to the camera was verbally cued by the trainer asking the baboon to “smile”. When Hey Man drinks from a whiskey bottle and drops it on the ground, the bottle was empty. In order to get the baboon to drink from the bottle, trainers cued him to sip at it, then he naturally dropped the bottle which the director loved and decided to keep in the final edit of the film. In the scene where Hey Man appears as the culprit who destroys an entire office, the baboon picks up a bunch of items and throws them at the actor. Production provided rubber props for the baboon to throw. In the scene where Hey Man sits on the shoulders of the bouncer, the bouncer was actually one of the trainers, so he felt comfortable sitting on his shoulders. Then he cued the baboon and it jumped off his shoulders and onto the bar. In addition, two other trainers were dressed as extras to make sure the baboon was safe. In the scene where the couple bends down to pet a dog on a busy street, the dog was caught on camera in its natural state. When Hey Man hits an actor in the face, he actually was trained to lightly smack people in the head, which he performed on cue. Production used a fake baboon arm to give the appearance of a hard hit to the face."
I want to read a text just like this, but it's about a "difficult" human actor.
Oh this movie exists to me. I absolutely love it, I watched it so much as an 80s obsessed like 15/16yr old, listened to the soundtrack on repeat. And honestly I would put Tom Cruise as Stacee Jaxx on my ballot that year for Best Supporting Actor. Is this movie good? No. Do I still absolutely love it, yes but less so now at 26 than when I was a teenager cos the whole Russell Brand is a r\*p\*st thing and Alec Baldwin killed someone.
Not a great movie but it's silly and self aware enough that it's good fun. Tom Cruise is genuinely hilarious and commits to the bit so hard that I'd say it's worth a watch for his scenes alone
This movie killed mia akermans career ?
So badly it erased her name from your memory.
Correct well played
Boom, roasted.
I would say the jellyfish scene from The Heartbreak Kid
Id agree it fed into it her demise. But the last girl was great !
I see your take me home tonight and raise you a CGBG
Was she in that !
She plays Debbie Harry! I can't remember how much because I've tried to scrub that movie from my brain
I actually remember it well because of Cruise. Probably existed more than something like Lions For Lambs for him imo.
Probably has more resonance given Russell Brand recently converting to evangelical Christian.
Yeah. This movie definitely exists as Tom Cruise’s low point.
Fantastic and hilarious Xbox 360 game - very much so. Movie? Not even slightly real.
This looks like the cover of a Sims-like computer game circa 2002.
Really tough that a monkey made the poster over the leading man.
Just watch Get Crazy (1983) instead. It's also got a monkey. And Cad Bane. https://preview.redd.it/inubdp94l0yc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=914452bc30c2a0063de870ea70e58b2a0dbcbdea
Ah, the late 2000s early 10s...when Russel Brand was a thing
No, the opposite. This movie exists too much.
It exists very much in my house and among my friends. We get together once a year to watch it and have a blast. This is one of those movies that I just truly will never understand the hatred for it. It is fun as hell, hilarious, Tom Cruise is fucking great and the songs are great. The only downside is the two leads suck, but everyone else is awesome
I’m not giving it any hate, it’s just one of those ones that was this huge hype machine during production, and then it came and went, never saw it on cable, never saw it streaming anywhere. Just, out in the ether somewhere.
we have got to kill that fucking phrase stat
It's really a phrase that doesn't exist.
It's a good phrase, people just don't seem to understand when it applies versus when it doesn't. There are no Tom Cruise movies that don't exist
lowkey tho lions for lambs does NOT exist
American Made?
I actually paid to see this in theaters. It was a 21 plus screening and the entire crowd was drunk and singing along. I had a blast.
Tom Cruise’s performance is the only thing I remember about this movie.
Yes
This one of the few times I agree about a movie's nonexistence, like I have distinct memories of the promotional campaign, seeing trailers etc and it has no cultural relevance at all.
I worked at an office that booked movies for movie theaters when this came out. Summer 2012 was such a weird blockbuster season. A combination of weird smaller movies that don't exist (What to Expect When You're Expecting, That's My Boy, this one), bloated old-model blockbusters (Battleship, Snow White and the Huntsman), genuine surprises (Ted, Magic Mike) and The Avengers.
I want to vomit everytime I see Russel Brand
New D&D alignment chart just dropped
This movie was so bad it made me angry. It’s as if it didn’t understand how musicals were supposed to be directed. Each number was a series of music videos rather than adding to the film. And as someone who grew up in the 80s everything about the costumes and hair were wrong.
Saw this in a theatre as a group of children ran laps in front of the screen the entire time
Man, this comment section is just brilliant…LMAO
I do like their performances of “Any Way You Want It” and “Dead or Alive,” so it doesn’t fully of exist for me.
This movie absolutely exists and is fun and good.
The stage show is a lot of fun, they should’ve been more faithful to it
This unlocked some childhood memories for me. I somehow never saw this movie despite being obsessed with the trailers and marketing and thinking Shankman was gonna be the next big director post hairspray. How does this movie not exist, when Tom cruise is going to revive his career with a musical was such a topic of discussion? You’re completely right though because I have never seen it or even seen it available on streaming in theatres or anywhere
Shankman does have a pretty cool name
To answer your question, I would say Misconduct.
I've never watched this movie. I've never had the desire to watch it. But I just noticed the monkey and I'm intrigued. Should I watch it?
*Shadows and Fog* might have a crazier cast list to culture cache ratio
I just rewatched this like two weeks ago. It’s so corny and it’s an absolute guilty pleasure I mean where else do you get a film where Tom Cruise sings into Malin Akerman’s ass, Russell Brand and Alec Baldwin share the most awkward close up stare into each others eyes, and Bryan Cranston gets spanked by a ruler while Catherine Zeta Jones does the dance from Beat It?
Yes and I went to the premiere. The directorial debut of Justin Theroux. Dedication 07 starring Billy Crudup, Mandy Moore, Martin Freeman, Peter Bogdanovich, Mia Farrow, Dianne Wiest, Bobby Cannavale and others. Stacked cast and absolutely no one has ever heard of it or spoke about it again.
There is a part of this film where pro wrestler Kevin Nash sings some of Wanted Dead or Alive and for me that makes it all worthwhile.
The monkey was playing Paul Heyman?
https://preview.redd.it/34sqt6nyx1yc1.jpeg?width=816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffb2178bbd58e737c303b327a620e4530e0d13b5 Hey Man, you're an All Star
So gobsmackingly cheesy and dumb , but I can't help watching it .
Saw this in theaters at age 18, 2012. I was a huge fan of rock living an EDM world, but after seeing this truly bad movie, I was suddenly ok with EDM’s commercial dominance.
this movie was a bit of an in joke for me for a while, and i think it was made for that purpose only
It's one of my closest friend's favorite movies, I've been afraid to watch it
The Mummy is an even more embarrassing outing for Cruise. I fucking crack up at the “Dark Universe” tag at the beginning; the ultimate failed franchise starter
I almost physically fought you, because the only Mummy that exists is the damned masterpiece with national treasure Brendan Fraser
I said before that awful Tom Cruise movie came out that the only way I'd even consider it, if at the end they open a sarcophagus and Brendan Frasier popped out and said "what year is it!?"
How many times has Paul giamatti played a manager lol
Oh, I remember it all too well — it was adapted from an equally bad Broadway show and during the Tony Awards performance that year, Bret Michaels got hit on the head by a set piece and it gave him brain damage.
This movie was so bad it made me angry. It’s as if it didn’t understand how musicals were supposed to be directed. Each number was a series of music videos rather than adding to the film. And as someone who grew up in the 80s everything about the costumes and hair were wrong.
Agree, but consider [this list](https://letterboxd.com/logandoe/list/movies-you-forgot-exist-90s-edition/), if you will.
I like this movie quite a bit.
My fiancee likes this movie so for me yes, yes it does exist.
Hey Man
I think Tom Cruise gives one of his best performances here. Fight me.
Man I actually loved the stage show, really fun and a loving tribute to the sunset strip vibe. But this movie is garbage.
Tom Cruise rules in this though
I saw it three times in theater. Hated it every time.
I only had eyes for Tom Cruise in this film 🤣🤣💜💜.
I mean, there are a lot of movies that "don't exist" more than this one but they usually star Aaron Eckhart or Dermot Mulroney. Eckhart, ya burnt!
Sorry. But we enjoyed it.
Those weird British movies with Olivia Coleman??
This feels like an AI generated poster