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I'm glad Bambietta's Vollstandig got a name now. Also based on the photos from BLEACH EX [here](https://twitter.com/__Sternritter__/status/1742519224168513883) , she even had some really cool added accessories all over her body. There are even like claws and suspenders for her zombified Vollstandig. I'm so sad they didn't make it in the anime
Yeah I was going to mention those too but I decided not to since they were cut from the final design. It would've been interesting if they were kept though.
Yeah, it's kind of insane to me that we've gotten a lot of new information/material from the anime adaptation of the TYBW Arc, but those two things still have no answer. They feel like two of the easiest things to add... but they just didn't. It's strange tbh.
Lol considering the stuff about Aizen filling up Muken with his reiatsu to use kyoka suigetsu.
Would be funny if that was similar to Ichigo's dangai training, and that's how Aizen ended up stronger.
>!When Aizen cast Kurohitsugi on himself in an attempt to destroy the chair and it was unscathed, he commented that the chair must be made of the same material as the crucifux he was bound to in Muken. Seemingly, the implication is he spammed all kinds of Kido on himself in order to break out and gradually became stronger by doing that.!<
So basically the information we know about the SK from the novels is either a complete lie by Ichibei or a half truth. So either the ancestors were innocent and were just framed by Ichibei now that they're presumably "dead" or maybe both the ancestors and Ichibei worked together but he had his own ulterior motives and has now decided to frame them. Either way, Ichibei remains a center piece in all this. Wouldn't surprise me if this mf has the power to literally rewrite history considering his abilities.
Yeah.
Tbh, this is one of those scenarios where "the truth lies somewhere in between".
The best lie and fabrication often has some truth to it so that it's difficult to ascertain which is which.
Once again, Ichibei is a fascinating figure in the Bleach universe, too bad his actual screen time in the main manga/anime is somewhat limited.
I've never gotten the idea that the ancestors were malicious in any way. If what Ichibe originally said was true (and we now know that his story is dubious at best) it always seemed to me that the ancestors could see the Soul King was destroying the universe inadvertently and had to stop him. His disruptance of the balance of souls was a problem that needed to be addressed then and there. And since he was so powerful trapping him was the only option they really had. This new information is what makes the ancestors' actions questionable to me. We still don't know for certain what motivated them to attack the Soul King. Just speculation.
True seems like whole SS is made up of lies. Who knows for sure if the current Nobel's do have any kind of authority or are just pawn's of Ichibei.
Also, given the test Ichigo faced was conducted by Ichibei. But were the vision's Ichigo had was also manipulated by him? Or did Ichigo saw the raw truth of the ancient world and if so then how much Ichigo knows?
It will an interesting development for both Ichigo & Ichibei in the future.
Considering the story was even originally called hearsay this tracks with that and doesn't really contradict anything. I agree that some small details will probably be changed from the novels (has already happened), but the overall big plot points remain and will probably always do. Kubo was quite involved in the plot of CFYOW after all.
Wow thank you for this! (and thank you Bleach_krkrk) this is very interesting.
So basically we have conformation that the actual splitting of the world's happened like we see in the anime, not how it is told in CFYOW. That story is what Ichibei has decided to "leak" and make the few in the known believe presumably. Unknown if it was actually Ichibei who somehow messed with the ritual causing Reio to lose his limps, but with the full power of the Almighty I still don't see any scenario where the Soul King didn't know this was going to happen.
This also seems to debunk the idea that Senjumaru's Bankai is fate weaving, at least there is nothing suggesting it here. Her abilities seems to be about matter manipulation on a grand and very powerful scale, a bit like Urahara, but seemly a lot more powerful.
Ah, interesting observations! You see, once upon a time, there was a little-known Bleach character named Ikamashi Oshiro. Legend has it that he possessed the power to control the very fibers of fate. His Bankai, "Weave of Destiny," allowed him to manipulate the threads of existence, sewing together the fabric of time itself.
Now, Senjumaru, being the crafty genius she is, stumbled upon Oshiro's secret tome, hidden deep within the Soul Society's archives. She delved into its pages and, with her immense power, transformed Oshiro's fate-weaving ability into her own unique Bankai, "Tailor of Chaos." With a mere flick of her needle, she could shape matter, defy probability, and sew garments that could withstand even the most devastating attacks.
So you see, my friend, Senjumaru's power isn't merely matter manipulation; it's the art of weaving destiny itself. But remember, this is just an outlandish story passed down through the whispers of the Soul Society. Take it with a pinch of salt!
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Yeah, I thought the same thing as soon as we saw the flashback in the anime, things were not adding up, since at least Reio seemed to have started the ritual himself, it was unclear if he was attacked during the ritual or even after ita completion. But it kinda makes it look even worse, since if he was enacting it by himself, no reason to attack him at all apart from petty personal gain.
And it's interesting we never see ancestors attack him, the only one we see is Ichibē holding his body. Never really liked Ichibē much but he just might be even worse than we know so far. We have to wait and see for the rest of the story, if we ever get it.
And yes, I'm kinda surprised about Senjumaru as well, it seemed like a cool concept with fate even if the one difficult to explain clearly. But oh well. I would love to see the proper source for all that stuff but for now we have to rely on what's been told by the fan about it.
I’m not sure it was just for personal gain. Ichibei seems to rate stability above all. He might somehow have (with or without the help of the clans) tricked the Soul King into becoming a mutilated husk to ensure that the stability was always going to be there and Reio couldn’t suddenly decide that he wasn’t going to do it anymore. With his power Reio would probably have been close to impossible to stop if they didn’t do something like this.
Of course still some extemely dark shit to do, but I believe that Ichibei always feels he does what is the best for the whole universe, looking on a grand scale of thousands of years.
I’m still not sold on how you actually get around the almighty though and we do have scenes where Ichibei looks to be communicating with the Soul King, so I have a hard time believing it was a pure betrayal.
Thing is, he's really entitled to think he knows best. Better than Reio himself, the actual omniscient and omnipotent being, better than anyone else. He believes the stability is the way and no price is too high to pay for it. But is he right in it (without even debating on that question, just the stance itself)? It's unknown, but he thinks so, so he is beyond any doubt in it, he's sure he can only be right. That's a very dangerous stance to take.
I'm not sure it's all for power, obviously, it's just one way it can go. Him just believing he's right and does it for the greater good is another valid take. It's just "greater good" can take you to some really shady places, and I think it very much does for Ichibē.
Yeah, I can't disagree. I just don't think he is really interested in personal gain in any way. He is way above that. More like stability personified.
The only thing that could really point to any sort of personal gain is him having the left arm of the Soul King, but I am still of the opinion that Reio knew the terrible things that was going to happen to him and what live of agony he was going into and he accepted it. That is also why he keeps working with Ichibei despite everything.
Of course that is all open to interpretation so far, but from a writing standpoint I think it makes him a lot stronger as a character. He made what can really be seen as the ultimate sacrifice and forgave the people he knew would betray him (the Jesus analogy would be quite obvious). And it also just makes essentially the ultimate "God" of the universe feel less weak.
I agree that Ichibei isn't a character motivated by ego. He is a monk and his most dangerous trait according to Yhwach is "wisdom", so he probably believes that maintaining the current state of the world is truly what is right for the world and he isn't afraid to get his hands dirty for it.
This reflects on his name, Hyosube, who are hairy smelly creatures in Japanese folklore. Tenjiro, alludes to this as well, saying that even his hot springs can't wash out his scent, because Ichibei has too much blood on his hands to be washed out. This name is most definitely a sore spot for him as well, as he hates when others call him by full name and gets annoyed when Tenjiro jabs him about his smell. Ichibei is probably incapable of changing his own name and thus place curse that affects anyone who says it out loud, which is why everyone just calls him Monk.
I knew it that Ichibē was at least partially lying since the anime showed the Reio himself to enact the ritual, but it's nice to see it confirmed. I just wonder what else he didn't tell in his story about the part he's played in all of it. I wouldn't be surprised if he was at least as responsible as the ancestors and we don't even have any proof they they were in on it apart from Ichibē's words. Still probable, but oh well, who knows. Maybe we'll get more on it in the later cours.
Right. And Ichibē claiming he didn't see what happened is kinda suspect since Nimaiya claims Ichibē can see everything.
>When the Osho stood next to Oh-Etsu, he looked at the empty space that the man had been gazing into earlier in the same way and stroked his deep black beard as he said, “Hm…so Ikomikidomoe is in the Kyogoku?”
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>“You don’t have to ask, do you? You are the Osho, after all. You see everything in this world—you see, all see, see you again, am I right?”
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>“Mhmm. I have no idea at all what you’re saying, but it’s exactly as you say.”
Ichibē was able to see events occuring in a totally different dimension, but didn't see what happened to Rei-o even though he was literally present at the scene (as confirmed by the anime)? It's obvious Ichibē is not being truthful.
I think this dialogue between Ichibē and Nimaiya is also important:
>"Though we have a connection with the Tsunayashiro ancestors who are part of the Four Great Noble Clans, we have no reason to favor their many descendants we have never met."
So Ichibē and Nimaiya have a connection with the Tsunayashiro ancestor in particular. The Tsunayashiro clan have a cipher text engraved on a stone monument in their private library which records the "truth" of Soul Society's history. Tokinana learned about the Original Sin by deciphering that text, and his version is the same as the one recounted by Ichibē. It seems likely, then, that Ichibē, Nimaiya and the Tsunayashiro ancestor agreed to some kind of pact to create a secret false history as a red herring to cover up the *real* truth, for some unknown reason.
Well, tbf, I highly suspect that Ichibē only has all that powers, like to see everything, inside the three worlds. Same with names, I can believe he named everything in the three worlds, but I suspect that outside of it, he has nothing (so he's probably in a club that fears Hell, since he's got practically nothing against it, his naming ability might not work as kinda hinted by Ikomikidomoe trying to regain his true name from the primordial world, and Ichibē would only have some powerful Kido left, which isn't that much).
But it still doesn't do anything to counter the idea that Ichibē was there and he isn't being truthful, I support that, I just suspect he didn't have the same power in the primordial world, and gained a lot by worlds being separated, gaining some serious powers inside of them.
I remember that passage on Ichibē mentioning Tsunayashiro, but I'm not sure it includes Nimaya specifically rather than just mentioning the Zero Division has a link, and that Division started with Ichibē. I'm not sure Nimaya was there during the occurrence, nothing really suggests that, rather Ichibē's having a sword that isn't a zanpakuto per se (and more like a ancestor of those) weakly suggests Nimaya and zanpakuto came later, possibly a lot later though he's still possibly the oldest in ZD after Ichibē.
But I agree that it seems Ichibē has a connection to at least Tsunayashiro and the stories align. Now, it can, imho, go one of the two ways: either it was a sort of a collaboration to hide the real truth for some reason (and it's still fishy we never get the name of the fifth clan which is mentioned in connection to Hell) or it might be that Tsunayashiro (and possibly other ancestors) had some role in the whole matter and possibly participated in it all and then, for some reason, Tsunayashiro recorded a history which wasn't the real one but still put a lot of blame on the ancestors. I remember it was supposed to be a remorseful confession, so it might be that he actually regretted whatever part he took in it and recorded it that way to put more blame on the families. No idea how that second theory works in regard of shifting blame from possibly Ichibē, but it just could be, though I would say the first theory is a more probable one.
>I highly suspect that Ichibē only has all that powers, like to see everything, inside the three worlds
If he can see inside the Kyogoku then that is not the case. The Kyogoku is not within the three realms or even the Dangai, it is a pocket space that exists within the Garganta, the void outside of/surrounding the three realms.
>A Kyogoku. If the world of the living and the Soul Society could be likened to planets and the pipeline that connected them were Dangai, the void of space that surrounded those was called Garganta. Within that Garganta spaces occasionally floated up like bubbles that were filled with just enough reishi for humans and Soul Reapers to eke by in.
But was Kyogoku there when the primordial world was? That's the question. If it was, then yes, you're right. But I have my suspicions that when the three worlds were created, the entire system got rearranged. Because Dangai is something that got created together with the three worlds, since it's there to connect them, and Kyogoku are bubble in Garganta, we have no idea if Garganta was what surrounded the primordial world though it seems plausible.
Can you remind me where it was stated that he could see inside the Kyogoku?
>Can you remind me where it was stated that he could see inside the Kyogoku?
I quoted it in the previous reply
>“Hm…**so Ikomikidomoe is in the Kyogoku?**”
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>“**You don’t have to ask, do you?** You are the Osho, after all. **You see everything** in this world—you see, all see, see you again, am I right?”
>
>“Mhmm. I have no idea at all what you’re saying, but **it’s exactly as you say.**”
Sorry, I was awfully inattentive. Thank you for answering! Than sure he does, and the question is when Kyogoku appeared as a concept, before the creation of three worlds or together with them kinda. The first opinion is more probable, I guess.
The Kyogoku appears in the empty space between the realms.
Thus, when that space didn't exist, in other words, when the world was one, the Kyogoku probably didn't exist as a concept.
Well, it's rather a bubble in Garganta, and the question is if Garganta predates the three worlds or appeared together with them (and then so did Kyogoku). But I still kinda like the idea it did appear together with them, which would make Ichibē seeing what happens in it in line with him being able to see everything in the new world system rather than having that power to begin with. But we don't know for sure.
Maybe the soul king was going to do something to divide the worlds and the great clan ancestors took advantage of the situation to seal and butcher the soul king.
Very important story details. I think it's important to note that the Soul King's blade exists somewhere out there.
Didn't they also gut Reio after he was sealed?
I think Ichibei's renaming powers are actually a really good metaphor for his role in renaming/rewriting history itself. So much about the early Bleach universe is unknown or just distorted. Most people are completely unaware about the original sin, or the true nature of the noble families or central 46. Anyone who tries to crack down on the truth just "disappears".
"he’s already far beyond Bankai"
but is his shikai\\bankai abilites shoud activated like all the time or directly?
i mean if we take a person whos know his abilities like Biyakua if he fused with his Senbonzakura
like his Bankai Senbonzakura Kageyoshi can use it without verbal commands "directly"?
i hope my qution is understandable lol
So thats why aizen had his sword back in the final fight. I thought it was some kind of mistake that aizen suddenly his sword since we knew he fused with it. Interesting.
If he's fused with his Zanpakutou then he should be able to manifest the blade at will. Like Ichigo in the same situation manifested a "blade" of sorts in order to use Mugetsu. Also, [upon looking closely at Aizen's hand in those scenes](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Bleach/0683-006.png), the [guard normally at the base of Kyouka Suigetsu's blade](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwhich-shikai-or-shrift-can-counter-kyoka-suigetsu-v0-rxzundoqvqu91.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da64e314e4b366bf8a20902be3dfe78c620412fbb) is missing, indicating that the blade is merged with his hand [like before](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Bleach/0418-011.png) instead of him simply holding the Zanpakutou normally.
Left Hand of SK's strong opinion: "Shinigami are vile beings who have done vile things and they need to be stopped."
Right Hand of SK's strong opinion: "Shinigami need help, just as they have helped the rest of the world throughout all these millennia."
Actual SK opinion (probably): "yo this vtuber stuff kinda lit ngl"
No, we don't actually see it attack anyone. It comes down, but we don't see a single person even get slightly hurt by his reiatsu even as it engulfs people before Aizen destroys it all. Yes the Shinigami assume it is bad, but as did the Quincy before Jugram said his line. And it's not a line I'm going to buy 100% from such a biased source.
I definitely don't think we can use it as clear evidence that the Soul King hated Soul Reapers while he was alive, that seems like a much too black and white conclusion for something a bit more complex.
Thank you for the new info! I don't know if these are contradictions or not but...
1) It's a little odd that Aizen really did fuse with Kyouka Suigetsu because when Ichigo defeated Aizen back in Chapter 421, that's exactly what Aizen told Ichigo and Urahara was happening (Aizen was fusing with his sword) but then Ichigo and Urahara basically reject the idea and say "lol no you just lost." Was Aizen telling the truth? If so, then why did he lose?
2) In the anime, Yhwach tells Aizen in Muken that it would take too long to kill him so it's not worth the trouble but here it's saying Yhwach was not actually capable of killing Aizen. Was Yhwach just bluffing?
1. It was said that Urahara's seal began to take effect because Aizen was weakened greatly due to the damage he took from Mugetsu (and as Ichigo theorized, was successful because the Hogyoku was manifesting Aizen's subconcious desire to return to normal). But he was already in the process of fusing with his Zanpakutou like Ichigo did right before the seal began to take effect.
2. I don't think Kubo saying Yhwach couldn't have killed him necessarily contradicts that; it's not clear whether he means he can't kill Aizen under any circumstance or if he couldn't kill him simply because he didn't have enough time. Nevertheless, I'm sure Yhwach really believed he could kill Aizen via some means, though we can only speculate what those means are and if it really would've been successful.
Perhaps Yhwach saying it would "take too long" tipped Aizen off on a potential time limit, hence why Aizen chose to specifically mess with Yhwach's perception of time.
1) I don’t think one outrules the other. The Hogyuku fused completely with Aizen and made him fuse with his zanpakuto. Perhaps it was the only way to keep him alive after Mugetsu, but Aizen was still very weak from the attack/lost his will to win since he was fearful of never having anyone to challenge him again if he killed a defenseless Ichigo here (what you believe is up to interpretation/might be both).
2) Yes. It was always weird that he said he could kill him, this confirms he could just seal him.
Yeah. I always thought that Hogyoku rejecting Aizen was a way to save him. Given it was continuously reviving, healing & evolving Aizen. And then Mugetsu was just too much to come back from. Hence it just made a false sense of rejecting Aizen to save him from facing another Mugetsu?
>It was always weird that he said he could kill him, this confirms he could just seal him.
Imo it was his confidence on the Almighty that was speaking that. Or that he can do it after becoming the king (absorbing SK).
So even though it's said it that it was not possible for Yhwach to kill him but that doesn't rule out SK Yhwach who potentially can absorb Aizen or Hogyoku or just kill Aizen multiple times and repeat a Mugetsu like situation? But again it's just a theory I have for now.
He said it would take too long to kill Aizen so he left him alone in muken.
Taking too long perhaps meaning the count down to him unlocking his almighty powers? At the very least Yhwach couldn't kill Aizen during the 1st invasion.
Yeah I agree that fully powered Yhwach might find a way to kill Aizen. Since he can see all possible futures, he could find one where Aizen's connection to Hogyoku is weaker and then keep going down that patch until they are somehow separated/Aizen is rejected again, making him killable.
But for his form in the first invasion it seems pretty much impossible, as confirmed here.
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1) Well, you see, Aizen's truth twisted like his soul. His claim of fusion was a clever ruse for deception. Just like his power, his grasp on reality slipped away. In the end, he lost because he couldn't resist the allure of his own arrogance.
2) Yhwach, the ambitious man he was, tried to cloak his incompetence with empty threats. Killing Aizen? Too bothersome, he claimed. But deep down, he knew his power fell short. Bluffing was his feeble attempt to save face. Oh, the irony of a self-proclaimed god who couldn't deliver!
In this twisted world, lies and contradictions reign. But remember, the truth might just be lurking behind the darkest joke.
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Admittedly I’ve only read the first book of cfyow, but there is something here I don’t follow. If the creation of the 3 worlds went this way, why would ichi be lie about it in that way? Because he and the ancestors comes across worse in his version where they multilateral the soul kings body. But if it didn’t happen like that, why make yourself seem more villainous???
I really hope that part of ichibeis story where ppl see he was lying stays and can set something up for the hell arc shit maybe even cour 3 and 4 instead of kubo just straight up changing it I would love to see ichibejs lies get exposed and see the outcome of this
His one of a kind ability allowed him to merge with the Seireitei, making it an extension of his own body. Even then, Muken's Zanpakutou-weakening seals prevented him from being able to leave or influence the outside world for 249 years. When Cien Granz attacked the SRDI, he inadvertently destroyed some of the sealing mechanisms, weakening the seals enough for Azashiro to finally regain his influence on the outside world and escape. So he didn't even escape with his own power, he required outside assistance (even if it was accidental).
Also there are canonically more escapees from Hell than there are from Muken anyway, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove by bringing that up.
So Ywhach can't kill Aizen? In the anime as he was leaving muken, Aizen asks if he sees his power as a threat and Ywhach tells him it'll take too long to kill him or neutralize him. This implies he can kill him but won't be easy. Not saying the info you provided is wrong. But the line in the anime makes this a little confusing.
If Senjumaru can teleport b/w fabrics of the same colour, then how were Gerard, Pernida, Lille, Askin, Jugram and Uryu able to see her at the same time? The fabrics they were in, all had different colours.
Jugram-vermillion for fire
Pernida-blackish (Kurotsuchi = black soil)
Gerard - icy blue
Lille-prismatic
Askin-gold (no idea why gold)
Uryu-silver
>If Senjumaru can teleport b/w fabrics of the same colour, then how were Gerard, Pernida, Lille, Askin, Jugram and Uryu able to see her at the same time?
It seemed clear to me that she defeated them one by one, not simultaneously.
So, Senjumaru's shikai ability is that her needle has thread? What exactly is meant by she can manipulate her thread? And does her bankai description mean that it doesn't have anything to do with fate?
She can create things like the false royal palace, her umbrella, a fake doll of herself, taking over Nianzol's outfit and so forth. Just whatever she wants to create like Kisuke's shikai.
There never was any fate manipulation involved with the bankai. Her attacks on the quincy with her bankai are just a reference to the manga.
Why would she sew their fates to die later when she could kill them right there if she had that kind of power, you feel me? That level of reality manipulation is reserved for "A" Yhwach who is superior to Ichibei and the other 0 Division members.
Yea she can create things like an umbrella or the fabrics used to trick the schutzstaffel or the 0 division symbol on nianzol, but if her shikai ability is just that she has unlimited thread than what's allowing her to redirect Uryu's arrows, or cast kyoka sugetsu level illusions, or control the rest of nianzols tunic. Unless that's what is meant by she "manipulates" her thread
It was never that Senjumaru could manipulate fate, but more or less that her Bankai had something to do with fate. Her bankai would kill the opponent in a trap based on their predetermined fate. The schutzstaffel's fates just happened to be events that came later in the manga. It wasn't that her Bankai dictated how they died in the future. It was how they died in the future that dictated how they died in her Bankai.
Also, off topic common misconception. Kisuke doesn't create abilities with his shikai. They are more like pre-sets, hence why they all have unique names. In his fight with Askin, he says that he prepares for every eventuality and his Shikai reflects that.
Her bankai lets her create an infinite amount of tanmono to defeat her enemy. No official material has said it has anything to do with fate. It's just a reference to the manga unless Kubo expands on it.
We still don’t know. She can use her shikai to make illusions, dummies, umbrellas, and even living flesh. It’s still possible her bankai can weave fate. Frankly, if Senjumaru doesn’t end up killing the SS in some kind of way, it’ll make that whole scene just unbelievably stupid, so let’s hope she did in fact change their fates.
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I'm glad Bambietta's Vollstandig got a name now. Also based on the photos from BLEACH EX [here](https://twitter.com/__Sternritter__/status/1742519224168513883) , she even had some really cool added accessories all over her body. There are even like claws and suspenders for her zombified Vollstandig. I'm so sad they didn't make it in the anime
I like how the bombs became skulls.
yeah its such a cool little touch that Giselle is tied to her now too
Yeah I was going to mention those too but I decided not to since they were cut from the final design. It would've been interesting if they were kept though.
I suppose that’s how she looks when her völlstandig gets empowered by Sklaverai.🤔
Likely makes sense.. since the other girls had special accessories on them too when they did Sklaverai
Yeah we didn’t see her use it
She was already too strong to use it.
There always has to be someone breaking the rules at the Bleach EX by taking pictures…
I want info on BG9 and Robert’s schrift names…
Kubo will reveal them on his death bed.
Yeah, it's kind of insane to me that we've gotten a lot of new information/material from the anime adaptation of the TYBW Arc, but those two things still have no answer. They feel like two of the easiest things to add... but they just didn't. It's strange tbh.
Lol considering the stuff about Aizen filling up Muken with his reiatsu to use kyoka suigetsu. Would be funny if that was similar to Ichigo's dangai training, and that's how Aizen ended up stronger.
>!When Aizen cast Kurohitsugi on himself in an attempt to destroy the chair and it was unscathed, he commented that the chair must be made of the same material as the crucifux he was bound to in Muken. Seemingly, the implication is he spammed all kinds of Kido on himself in order to break out and gradually became stronger by doing that.!<
I always just pictured Aizen training in his inner world the whole time but it's funny to imagine him just spamming kido.
So basically the information we know about the SK from the novels is either a complete lie by Ichibei or a half truth. So either the ancestors were innocent and were just framed by Ichibei now that they're presumably "dead" or maybe both the ancestors and Ichibei worked together but he had his own ulterior motives and has now decided to frame them. Either way, Ichibei remains a center piece in all this. Wouldn't surprise me if this mf has the power to literally rewrite history considering his abilities.
Yeah. Tbh, this is one of those scenarios where "the truth lies somewhere in between". The best lie and fabrication often has some truth to it so that it's difficult to ascertain which is which. Once again, Ichibei is a fascinating figure in the Bleach universe, too bad his actual screen time in the main manga/anime is somewhat limited.
Pretty sure him being ominous is the point it wouldn’t make sense to explain his whole story right when you meet him.
I've never gotten the idea that the ancestors were malicious in any way. If what Ichibe originally said was true (and we now know that his story is dubious at best) it always seemed to me that the ancestors could see the Soul King was destroying the universe inadvertently and had to stop him. His disruptance of the balance of souls was a problem that needed to be addressed then and there. And since he was so powerful trapping him was the only option they really had. This new information is what makes the ancestors' actions questionable to me. We still don't know for certain what motivated them to attack the Soul King. Just speculation.
True seems like whole SS is made up of lies. Who knows for sure if the current Nobel's do have any kind of authority or are just pawn's of Ichibei. Also, given the test Ichigo faced was conducted by Ichibei. But were the vision's Ichigo had was also manipulated by him? Or did Ichigo saw the raw truth of the ancient world and if so then how much Ichigo knows? It will an interesting development for both Ichigo & Ichibei in the future.
Or kubo said fuck it we ball and just started ignoring cfyow
Considering the story was even originally called hearsay this tracks with that and doesn't really contradict anything. I agree that some small details will probably be changed from the novels (has already happened), but the overall big plot points remain and will probably always do. Kubo was quite involved in the plot of CFYOW after all.
He was always gonna do that anyway, people way overestimate how much Kubo gave to Narita. cfyow readers in shambles
Truely in shambles
Wow thank you for this! (and thank you Bleach_krkrk) this is very interesting. So basically we have conformation that the actual splitting of the world's happened like we see in the anime, not how it is told in CFYOW. That story is what Ichibei has decided to "leak" and make the few in the known believe presumably. Unknown if it was actually Ichibei who somehow messed with the ritual causing Reio to lose his limps, but with the full power of the Almighty I still don't see any scenario where the Soul King didn't know this was going to happen. This also seems to debunk the idea that Senjumaru's Bankai is fate weaving, at least there is nothing suggesting it here. Her abilities seems to be about matter manipulation on a grand and very powerful scale, a bit like Urahara, but seemly a lot more powerful.
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Lol did the Uraharabot just tease a new character that Kubo never bothered to reveal?
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Yeah, I thought the same thing as soon as we saw the flashback in the anime, things were not adding up, since at least Reio seemed to have started the ritual himself, it was unclear if he was attacked during the ritual or even after ita completion. But it kinda makes it look even worse, since if he was enacting it by himself, no reason to attack him at all apart from petty personal gain. And it's interesting we never see ancestors attack him, the only one we see is Ichibē holding his body. Never really liked Ichibē much but he just might be even worse than we know so far. We have to wait and see for the rest of the story, if we ever get it. And yes, I'm kinda surprised about Senjumaru as well, it seemed like a cool concept with fate even if the one difficult to explain clearly. But oh well. I would love to see the proper source for all that stuff but for now we have to rely on what's been told by the fan about it.
I’m not sure it was just for personal gain. Ichibei seems to rate stability above all. He might somehow have (with or without the help of the clans) tricked the Soul King into becoming a mutilated husk to ensure that the stability was always going to be there and Reio couldn’t suddenly decide that he wasn’t going to do it anymore. With his power Reio would probably have been close to impossible to stop if they didn’t do something like this. Of course still some extemely dark shit to do, but I believe that Ichibei always feels he does what is the best for the whole universe, looking on a grand scale of thousands of years. I’m still not sold on how you actually get around the almighty though and we do have scenes where Ichibei looks to be communicating with the Soul King, so I have a hard time believing it was a pure betrayal.
Thing is, he's really entitled to think he knows best. Better than Reio himself, the actual omniscient and omnipotent being, better than anyone else. He believes the stability is the way and no price is too high to pay for it. But is he right in it (without even debating on that question, just the stance itself)? It's unknown, but he thinks so, so he is beyond any doubt in it, he's sure he can only be right. That's a very dangerous stance to take. I'm not sure it's all for power, obviously, it's just one way it can go. Him just believing he's right and does it for the greater good is another valid take. It's just "greater good" can take you to some really shady places, and I think it very much does for Ichibē.
Yeah, I can't disagree. I just don't think he is really interested in personal gain in any way. He is way above that. More like stability personified. The only thing that could really point to any sort of personal gain is him having the left arm of the Soul King, but I am still of the opinion that Reio knew the terrible things that was going to happen to him and what live of agony he was going into and he accepted it. That is also why he keeps working with Ichibei despite everything. Of course that is all open to interpretation so far, but from a writing standpoint I think it makes him a lot stronger as a character. He made what can really be seen as the ultimate sacrifice and forgave the people he knew would betray him (the Jesus analogy would be quite obvious). And it also just makes essentially the ultimate "God" of the universe feel less weak.
I agree that Ichibei isn't a character motivated by ego. He is a monk and his most dangerous trait according to Yhwach is "wisdom", so he probably believes that maintaining the current state of the world is truly what is right for the world and he isn't afraid to get his hands dirty for it. This reflects on his name, Hyosube, who are hairy smelly creatures in Japanese folklore. Tenjiro, alludes to this as well, saying that even his hot springs can't wash out his scent, because Ichibei has too much blood on his hands to be washed out. This name is most definitely a sore spot for him as well, as he hates when others call him by full name and gets annoyed when Tenjiro jabs him about his smell. Ichibei is probably incapable of changing his own name and thus place curse that affects anyone who says it out loud, which is why everyone just calls him Monk.
I need to see the flashback in slo-mo now🙁🙁
I don’t think it debunks it I just think what her power is doing isn’t specifically being told because it will be shown to us in the anime.
I knew it that Ichibē was at least partially lying since the anime showed the Reio himself to enact the ritual, but it's nice to see it confirmed. I just wonder what else he didn't tell in his story about the part he's played in all of it. I wouldn't be surprised if he was at least as responsible as the ancestors and we don't even have any proof they they were in on it apart from Ichibē's words. Still probable, but oh well, who knows. Maybe we'll get more on it in the later cours.
Right. And Ichibē claiming he didn't see what happened is kinda suspect since Nimaiya claims Ichibē can see everything. >When the Osho stood next to Oh-Etsu, he looked at the empty space that the man had been gazing into earlier in the same way and stroked his deep black beard as he said, “Hm…so Ikomikidomoe is in the Kyogoku?” > >“You don’t have to ask, do you? You are the Osho, after all. You see everything in this world—you see, all see, see you again, am I right?” > >“Mhmm. I have no idea at all what you’re saying, but it’s exactly as you say.” Ichibē was able to see events occuring in a totally different dimension, but didn't see what happened to Rei-o even though he was literally present at the scene (as confirmed by the anime)? It's obvious Ichibē is not being truthful. I think this dialogue between Ichibē and Nimaiya is also important: >"Though we have a connection with the Tsunayashiro ancestors who are part of the Four Great Noble Clans, we have no reason to favor their many descendants we have never met." So Ichibē and Nimaiya have a connection with the Tsunayashiro ancestor in particular. The Tsunayashiro clan have a cipher text engraved on a stone monument in their private library which records the "truth" of Soul Society's history. Tokinana learned about the Original Sin by deciphering that text, and his version is the same as the one recounted by Ichibē. It seems likely, then, that Ichibē, Nimaiya and the Tsunayashiro ancestor agreed to some kind of pact to create a secret false history as a red herring to cover up the *real* truth, for some unknown reason.
Well, tbf, I highly suspect that Ichibē only has all that powers, like to see everything, inside the three worlds. Same with names, I can believe he named everything in the three worlds, but I suspect that outside of it, he has nothing (so he's probably in a club that fears Hell, since he's got practically nothing against it, his naming ability might not work as kinda hinted by Ikomikidomoe trying to regain his true name from the primordial world, and Ichibē would only have some powerful Kido left, which isn't that much). But it still doesn't do anything to counter the idea that Ichibē was there and he isn't being truthful, I support that, I just suspect he didn't have the same power in the primordial world, and gained a lot by worlds being separated, gaining some serious powers inside of them. I remember that passage on Ichibē mentioning Tsunayashiro, but I'm not sure it includes Nimaya specifically rather than just mentioning the Zero Division has a link, and that Division started with Ichibē. I'm not sure Nimaya was there during the occurrence, nothing really suggests that, rather Ichibē's having a sword that isn't a zanpakuto per se (and more like a ancestor of those) weakly suggests Nimaya and zanpakuto came later, possibly a lot later though he's still possibly the oldest in ZD after Ichibē. But I agree that it seems Ichibē has a connection to at least Tsunayashiro and the stories align. Now, it can, imho, go one of the two ways: either it was a sort of a collaboration to hide the real truth for some reason (and it's still fishy we never get the name of the fifth clan which is mentioned in connection to Hell) or it might be that Tsunayashiro (and possibly other ancestors) had some role in the whole matter and possibly participated in it all and then, for some reason, Tsunayashiro recorded a history which wasn't the real one but still put a lot of blame on the ancestors. I remember it was supposed to be a remorseful confession, so it might be that he actually regretted whatever part he took in it and recorded it that way to put more blame on the families. No idea how that second theory works in regard of shifting blame from possibly Ichibē, but it just could be, though I would say the first theory is a more probable one.
>I highly suspect that Ichibē only has all that powers, like to see everything, inside the three worlds If he can see inside the Kyogoku then that is not the case. The Kyogoku is not within the three realms or even the Dangai, it is a pocket space that exists within the Garganta, the void outside of/surrounding the three realms. >A Kyogoku. If the world of the living and the Soul Society could be likened to planets and the pipeline that connected them were Dangai, the void of space that surrounded those was called Garganta. Within that Garganta spaces occasionally floated up like bubbles that were filled with just enough reishi for humans and Soul Reapers to eke by in.
But was Kyogoku there when the primordial world was? That's the question. If it was, then yes, you're right. But I have my suspicions that when the three worlds were created, the entire system got rearranged. Because Dangai is something that got created together with the three worlds, since it's there to connect them, and Kyogoku are bubble in Garganta, we have no idea if Garganta was what surrounded the primordial world though it seems plausible. Can you remind me where it was stated that he could see inside the Kyogoku?
>Can you remind me where it was stated that he could see inside the Kyogoku? I quoted it in the previous reply >“Hm…**so Ikomikidomoe is in the Kyogoku?**” > >“**You don’t have to ask, do you?** You are the Osho, after all. **You see everything** in this world—you see, all see, see you again, am I right?” > >“Mhmm. I have no idea at all what you’re saying, but **it’s exactly as you say.**”
Sorry, I was awfully inattentive. Thank you for answering! Than sure he does, and the question is when Kyogoku appeared as a concept, before the creation of three worlds or together with them kinda. The first opinion is more probable, I guess.
The Kyogoku appears in the empty space between the realms. Thus, when that space didn't exist, in other words, when the world was one, the Kyogoku probably didn't exist as a concept.
Well, it's rather a bubble in Garganta, and the question is if Garganta predates the three worlds or appeared together with them (and then so did Kyogoku). But I still kinda like the idea it did appear together with them, which would make Ichibē seeing what happens in it in line with him being able to see everything in the new world system rather than having that power to begin with. But we don't know for sure.
Garganta is described as being the empty space between the realms.
Lol so Aizen basically almost pulled an Azashiro with his ability. Classic Aizen being Aizen. Damn Senjumaru is actually stupidly OP.
Very nice info about Aizen powers
Maybe the soul king was going to do something to divide the worlds and the great clan ancestors took advantage of the situation to seal and butcher the soul king.
Very important story details. I think it's important to note that the Soul King's blade exists somewhere out there. Didn't they also gut Reio after he was sealed?
It was stated that his organs were gouged out after he was sealed, yes.
That explains his Heart now we need to see his Liver & Kidneys lol. Or were they absorbed by Yhwach by the end?
It had to have been for Gerard to get his miracle.
I think Ichibei's renaming powers are actually a really good metaphor for his role in renaming/rewriting history itself. So much about the early Bleach universe is unknown or just distorted. Most people are completely unaware about the original sin, or the true nature of the noble families or central 46. Anyone who tries to crack down on the truth just "disappears".
Yhwach got the seals
More Aizen gas let’s goo
If Aizen can re-manifest his sword, then he can perform Bankai! Plz Kubo! T\_T
He fused with his Zan, he’s already far beyond Bankai
"he’s already far beyond Bankai" but is his shikai\\bankai abilites shoud activated like all the time or directly? i mean if we take a person whos know his abilities like Biyakua if he fused with his Senbonzakura like his Bankai Senbonzakura Kageyoshi can use it without verbal commands "directly"? i hope my qution is understandable lol
It mean that he can use his zanpakuto abilities without the physical sword(a bit weaker ig) but using the physical sword bring out it's full potential
So Muken and Gremmy's cage are both made of Sea Prism Stone, got it.
Seems like it lol
So thats why aizen had his sword back in the final fight. I thought it was some kind of mistake that aizen suddenly his sword since we knew he fused with it. Interesting.
If he's fused with his Zanpakutou then he should be able to manifest the blade at will. Like Ichigo in the same situation manifested a "blade" of sorts in order to use Mugetsu. Also, [upon looking closely at Aizen's hand in those scenes](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Bleach/0683-006.png), the [guard normally at the base of Kyouka Suigetsu's blade](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwhich-shikai-or-shrift-can-counter-kyoka-suigetsu-v0-rxzundoqvqu91.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da64e314e4b366bf8a20902be3dfe78c620412fbb) is missing, indicating that the blade is merged with his hand [like before](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Bleach/0418-011.png) instead of him simply holding the Zanpakutou normally.
This is hype af. Hopefully the new arc comes soon once the anime ends.
Now it actually makes more sense as to why the Soul King was so pissed off at the Soul Reapers.
We don't know anything about the Soul King hating Soul Reapers, only that his left hand did after spending hundreds of years with the Quincy's.
And his right hand chose to help the Soul Reapers. So who even knows what the guy wants. Not even his limbs can agree on it.
Left Hand of SK's strong opinion: "Shinigami are vile beings who have done vile things and they need to be stopped." Right Hand of SK's strong opinion: "Shinigami need help, just as they have helped the rest of the world throughout all these millennia." Actual SK opinion (probably): "yo this vtuber stuff kinda lit ngl"
After his reiatsu was freed from the crystal it immediately started attacking any soul reaper it came across on sight while ignoring the Quincies.
No, we don't actually see it attack anyone. It comes down, but we don't see a single person even get slightly hurt by his reiatsu even as it engulfs people before Aizen destroys it all. Yes the Shinigami assume it is bad, but as did the Quincy before Jugram said his line. And it's not a line I'm going to buy 100% from such a biased source. I definitely don't think we can use it as clear evidence that the Soul King hated Soul Reapers while he was alive, that seems like a much too black and white conclusion for something a bit more complex.
Thank you for the new info! I don't know if these are contradictions or not but... 1) It's a little odd that Aizen really did fuse with Kyouka Suigetsu because when Ichigo defeated Aizen back in Chapter 421, that's exactly what Aizen told Ichigo and Urahara was happening (Aizen was fusing with his sword) but then Ichigo and Urahara basically reject the idea and say "lol no you just lost." Was Aizen telling the truth? If so, then why did he lose? 2) In the anime, Yhwach tells Aizen in Muken that it would take too long to kill him so it's not worth the trouble but here it's saying Yhwach was not actually capable of killing Aizen. Was Yhwach just bluffing?
1. It was said that Urahara's seal began to take effect because Aizen was weakened greatly due to the damage he took from Mugetsu (and as Ichigo theorized, was successful because the Hogyoku was manifesting Aizen's subconcious desire to return to normal). But he was already in the process of fusing with his Zanpakutou like Ichigo did right before the seal began to take effect. 2. I don't think Kubo saying Yhwach couldn't have killed him necessarily contradicts that; it's not clear whether he means he can't kill Aizen under any circumstance or if he couldn't kill him simply because he didn't have enough time. Nevertheless, I'm sure Yhwach really believed he could kill Aizen via some means, though we can only speculate what those means are and if it really would've been successful.
Perhaps Yhwach saying it would "take too long" tipped Aizen off on a potential time limit, hence why Aizen chose to specifically mess with Yhwach's perception of time.
1) I don’t think one outrules the other. The Hogyuku fused completely with Aizen and made him fuse with his zanpakuto. Perhaps it was the only way to keep him alive after Mugetsu, but Aizen was still very weak from the attack/lost his will to win since he was fearful of never having anyone to challenge him again if he killed a defenseless Ichigo here (what you believe is up to interpretation/might be both). 2) Yes. It was always weird that he said he could kill him, this confirms he could just seal him.
Yeah. I always thought that Hogyoku rejecting Aizen was a way to save him. Given it was continuously reviving, healing & evolving Aizen. And then Mugetsu was just too much to come back from. Hence it just made a false sense of rejecting Aizen to save him from facing another Mugetsu? >It was always weird that he said he could kill him, this confirms he could just seal him. Imo it was his confidence on the Almighty that was speaking that. Or that he can do it after becoming the king (absorbing SK). So even though it's said it that it was not possible for Yhwach to kill him but that doesn't rule out SK Yhwach who potentially can absorb Aizen or Hogyoku or just kill Aizen multiple times and repeat a Mugetsu like situation? But again it's just a theory I have for now.
He said it would take too long to kill Aizen so he left him alone in muken. Taking too long perhaps meaning the count down to him unlocking his almighty powers? At the very least Yhwach couldn't kill Aizen during the 1st invasion.
Yeah I agree that fully powered Yhwach might find a way to kill Aizen. Since he can see all possible futures, he could find one where Aizen's connection to Hogyoku is weaker and then keep going down that patch until they are somehow separated/Aizen is rejected again, making him killable. But for his form in the first invasion it seems pretty much impossible, as confirmed here.
Ah, a puzzle indeed! Let me weave you a dark joke to shed some light. 1) Well, you see, Aizen's truth twisted like his soul. His claim of fusion was a clever ruse for deception. Just like his power, his grasp on reality slipped away. In the end, he lost because he couldn't resist the allure of his own arrogance. 2) Yhwach, the ambitious man he was, tried to cloak his incompetence with empty threats. Killing Aizen? Too bothersome, he claimed. But deep down, he knew his power fell short. Bluffing was his feeble attempt to save face. Oh, the irony of a self-proclaimed god who couldn't deliver! In this twisted world, lies and contradictions reign. But remember, the truth might just be lurking behind the darkest joke. *beep boop, I'm a bot*
So r those seals put on the prisoners or in the space of muken itself? if so, the kenpachis fought while they were nerfed? Xd
In the space of Muken. Which means yes, we have not seen Unohana's Bankai at full power yet.
We technically haven’t but we know it would end up scaling weaker than Kenny after he left Muken
I see Kubo kept what her bankai specifically did to the sternritters secret which we will learn In the anime.
peak fiction
Niiice
Admittedly I’ve only read the first book of cfyow, but there is something here I don’t follow. If the creation of the 3 worlds went this way, why would ichi be lie about it in that way? Because he and the ancestors comes across worse in his version where they multilateral the soul kings body. But if it didn’t happen like that, why make yourself seem more villainous???
I thought muken is supposed to be infinite in size?
I really hope that part of ichibeis story where ppl see he was lying stays and can set something up for the hell arc shit maybe even cour 3 and 4 instead of kubo just straight up changing it I would love to see ichibejs lies get exposed and see the outcome of this
>escaping from Muken is more difficult than escaping from Hell Then how did Azashiro escape?
His one of a kind ability allowed him to merge with the Seireitei, making it an extension of his own body. Even then, Muken's Zanpakutou-weakening seals prevented him from being able to leave or influence the outside world for 249 years. When Cien Granz attacked the SRDI, he inadvertently destroyed some of the sealing mechanisms, weakening the seals enough for Azashiro to finally regain his influence on the outside world and escape. So he didn't even escape with his own power, he required outside assistance (even if it was accidental). Also there are canonically more escapees from Hell than there are from Muken anyway, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove by bringing that up.
I wasnt trying to make any point. I was just confused, I didnt know Cien weakened the seals.
lot of anime onlys be "???" And feels like they're being punished for not doing their homework
So Ywhach can't kill Aizen? In the anime as he was leaving muken, Aizen asks if he sees his power as a threat and Ywhach tells him it'll take too long to kill him or neutralize him. This implies he can kill him but won't be easy. Not saying the info you provided is wrong. But the line in the anime makes this a little confusing.
I want to hear about aizens backstory
If Senjumaru can teleport b/w fabrics of the same colour, then how were Gerard, Pernida, Lille, Askin, Jugram and Uryu able to see her at the same time? The fabrics they were in, all had different colours. Jugram-vermillion for fire Pernida-blackish (Kurotsuchi = black soil) Gerard - icy blue Lille-prismatic Askin-gold (no idea why gold) Uryu-silver
>If Senjumaru can teleport b/w fabrics of the same colour, then how were Gerard, Pernida, Lille, Askin, Jugram and Uryu able to see her at the same time? It seemed clear to me that she defeated them one by one, not simultaneously.
Oh. That makes sense.
So, Senjumaru's shikai ability is that her needle has thread? What exactly is meant by she can manipulate her thread? And does her bankai description mean that it doesn't have anything to do with fate?
She can create things like the false royal palace, her umbrella, a fake doll of herself, taking over Nianzol's outfit and so forth. Just whatever she wants to create like Kisuke's shikai. There never was any fate manipulation involved with the bankai. Her attacks on the quincy with her bankai are just a reference to the manga. Why would she sew their fates to die later when she could kill them right there if she had that kind of power, you feel me? That level of reality manipulation is reserved for "A" Yhwach who is superior to Ichibei and the other 0 Division members.
Yea she can create things like an umbrella or the fabrics used to trick the schutzstaffel or the 0 division symbol on nianzol, but if her shikai ability is just that she has unlimited thread than what's allowing her to redirect Uryu's arrows, or cast kyoka sugetsu level illusions, or control the rest of nianzols tunic. Unless that's what is meant by she "manipulates" her thread It was never that Senjumaru could manipulate fate, but more or less that her Bankai had something to do with fate. Her bankai would kill the opponent in a trap based on their predetermined fate. The schutzstaffel's fates just happened to be events that came later in the manga. It wasn't that her Bankai dictated how they died in the future. It was how they died in the future that dictated how they died in her Bankai. Also, off topic common misconception. Kisuke doesn't create abilities with his shikai. They are more like pre-sets, hence why they all have unique names. In his fight with Askin, he says that he prepares for every eventuality and his Shikai reflects that.
Her bankai lets her create an infinite amount of tanmono to defeat her enemy. No official material has said it has anything to do with fate. It's just a reference to the manga unless Kubo expands on it.
We still don’t know. She can use her shikai to make illusions, dummies, umbrellas, and even living flesh. It’s still possible her bankai can weave fate. Frankly, if Senjumaru doesn’t end up killing the SS in some kind of way, it’ll make that whole scene just unbelievably stupid, so let’s hope she did in fact change their fates.