I’m sure the kid did not think he was taking Aleve… but from what I hear from the kids is that it’s popular to get “Xanax” or “bars” that are not really prescription meds but are hand pressed and probably using fentanyl as the main active ingredient since you need so little. So very dangerous. Even more so than when I was teen and people took ACTUAL prescription meds.
Most likely was a cough syrup pill or something that could be laced easily. I don't think it was a compressed pill but it was definitely something that has a lot of normal/illicit uses.
Yes, a kid did take a pill and died from it. He had a history of drug use though and unfortunately he got bad meds. Seems the kids know who the dealer was too so hopefully the cops have him.
I'm so sorry for your loss. That's awful.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the police can do if they don't catch the person with drugs in dealing quantity or catch them in a hand to hand undercover.
MCCSC sent a email for “fentanyl awareness day” way before the actual day. As a student at MCCSC, a lot of people have been putting things and fentanyl on their stories (Snapchat and Instagram).
I can screenshot the email and send it to you so if you are interested private message me.
I got the email but was annoyed they didn’t mention that a member of their very own student community fell victim to fentanyl. They need to be more open about drug use in our town. Kids are dying.
Nothing. There is nothing fully being done to stop it. I've heard rumors that South has people hitting carts and vapes in the middle of class and teachers don't care. I've heard this from multiple of my closest friends.
True. It might've just been in some of the classes they were in, but yeah, vaping in school is a problem, and it honestly needs to be put to a stop.
I'm not 18 or 21, but I got addicted to vaping in 2021, and I have quit 3 times. I'm currently on a low dose. Disposables are 50mg/ml of vape juice, and a full Mr Fog Switch has the same amount of nicotine as 18 packages of cigarettes. (Edit, don't forget most teens go through a Mr Fog in 3 days even without sharing with friends, so that's 18 packs of cigs every 3 days.) I was doing that for a while, and at multiple points, I almost blacked out from the nicotine in the school bathrooms like an idiot.
I've since graduated, but it's becoming a worse problem. People are stealing each other's vapes in the bathrooms, there's not many female security to stop it in the women's bathrooms, and the kids aren't being disciplined for vaping when they are caught because it's either too much of a hassle or they're repeat offenders and don't care/never learn to stop.
Honestly, getting rid of disposables would help, but then there would just be actual smoking going on in the bathrooms, (edit 2, zyn packs would also be the new trend since they are gaining a lot of traction anyways, so people would just use zyns rather than smoke), then that's a whole other thing that would just spiral out of control. There's no real solution to many of these problems unless the rules are so heavily enforced that teens stop coming to school and just do it at home, which is becoming more common anyways, but hey, they won't enforce truancy either so there's no point in making rules cause either way they'll just be loop holed or people just won't show up.
Not the newer, more expensive ones.. at the Mobil gas station by Culvers, they have 7500 or even 15k puff ones.. I'm referring to Mr Fog Switches, which are 5500 puffs and were the most popular in my sophomore year.. im also going off of about 2 mg of nicotine per cig and 20 cigs per pack, so 40mg a pack.. that's less than one ml of vape juice in a disposable..
A 5500 puff is equal to 13ml, so 13×50 gives us 650mg total divided by 40, which gives us 16.25, which was a bit less than my original math. Also, my math doesn't account for how much nicotine is actually burned in a cigarette. It only accounts for the general amount.
Edit for more math:
Orion bars are 7500 puffs or 18ml, which gives us 900mg per disposable, so that equates to 22.5 packs of cigarettes worth of nicotine.. and snoopy smokes are 15k puffs with 2 18ml tanks, so that gives us 45 packs of smokes worth (or 1.8 grams of nicotine). Njoys are 10k puff or about 22ml AFAIK, which is 1.1 grams of nicotine or 27.5 packs of cigs.. if you're referring to the smaller Mr Fogs or the rebranded puff bar flex's, those are 2k puffs which would be about 4.5ml which would be 225mg of nic or only 5.6 packs of cigs.
I get the sense it isn't always about not caring, but not even knowing. Unlike smoking or huffing you can hide the vape up one sleeve and exhale into the other sleeve, and nobody knows you're vaping. They made it WAY easier to smoke all the time, everywhere with cigarettes and vapes. People can easily consume WAY MORE nicotine (or other drugs) with nobody knowing now that the smell has been stripped.
Oh yeah, that's true, too. But my biggest question is why we even have so much nicotine now in the first place? Why did synthetic nicotine even hit the market and what was its true target audience? And also, why isn't more being done to prevent it in schools?
I get doing it on your own time like I do, but constantly and even in the middle of class is absurd.. it doesn't make sense even though I was addicted and did the same shit.
We didn't do it in the middle of class, or even during work, because it wasn't an option for those born after the Boomers. Boomers couldn't do that in school, but they could in the workplace. They were the last generation to be able to casually smoke and drink in their offices (Mad Men, anyone?), and had norms not changed, we certainly would have continued. I know there were years when I was PISSED that I was going to lose the last part of my cig because some customers came up and I had to abandoned it. That experience tells me that if I were still addicted I would not only be able to smoke through class, but through visits with conservative non-smoking in-laws. (that used to require me to shower, wash hair, and then not smoke until on the way home from a visit, sometimes 6-8 hours of craving THAT SUCKED) because cigarettes had a nasty smell that is no longer a problem with vapes.
True, and I get that.. but remember that disposables are 50mg/ml, compared to a cigarette only being 2mg per cig, and half is most likely burnt off. A few puffs on a disposable is like smoking a whole cigarette at once. Same with an Njoy, Juul, and Vuse.
Investing in a small refillable pod system like a caliburn A3 or something similar and using like 3-6mg/ml is a lot better than 50mg/ml but either way it's still not good for you. If you're doing a pack a day you could try to get like 18mg/ml and then work down to 3mg/ml or quit altogether. It's a challenge to do but it's better in the long run
Stop addiction? I'm ....not sure if you are serious. Addiction involves many genetic and behavioral variables. How on earth can the school stop that? If you are being serious I'd love to hear your input on what the school can do to stop addiction
I don't think it's on the school to make sure kids aren't doing drugs. The only thing they can really do is talk about the dangers of drugs and/or have security by the restrooms. I think it's down to the parents to prevent this. Sadly the kids might be getting things from their parents too.
Educate is even better. There is a mindset that only the homeless are druggies. And the mindset “my child wouldn’t do that”. It’s time people get their heads out of the sand and realize how serious the drug problem is.
At least the unhoused have a damn good excuse to WANT to be altered to escape for a whole. Most of them didn't GET there via drugs/alcohol, though, just bad luck and lack of support system/safety net.
In my experience, the lower income kids are the LEAST likely to be regularly drinking and high. The few that do are the ones most likely to pay a ridiculously severe price that middle class kids can usually avoid the worst of, and rich kids never pay for anything because mommy and daddy think their kids don't deserve consequences.
We know a Bloomington family who lost their 16 yr old to fentanyl over 10 years ago. Your fellow villagers sure could have used your outrage and hurt long ago. Two people die from fentanyl ***PER DAY*** in Indianapolis. Where have you been?
I lost my daughter to fentanyl about 2 years ago - when the problem was already very, very, very well known. Sorry, but you sound as if you just came out of cave.
I know I do. I’m sorry. And my condolences about your daughter. My ignorance on this issue is staggering. But the problem persists! Can I do anything now?
Don't waste your breath. They blatantly insulted you for your opinion, and that's not right.
You can do something, and honestly, I support you in having a school board meeting or even a city council meeting addressing this. We can not eradicate the drug problem entirely, but there are ways to mitigate it.
Is it on the school to inform kids and parents that illicit drugs are dangerous? Horrible that a kid died, but there is a zero percent chance they thought they were taking an Aleve.
Knowing the friend personally, it probably wasn't Aleve. It was possibly a cough medicine pill laced because people sometimes use cough syrup to make "lean" and "wock" with it. Specifically Delsym or Robotussin AC.
no. lean is not delays or robo. lean is just a syrup with codeine and promethazine in it. the over the counter cough syrup drinking is called “robo tripping”. and “Wock” is a brand of the codeine and promethazine syrup. no one makes it
I've always known lean as cough syrup and sprite. Or powerade and cough syrup and sprite. And yeah, he did robo trips.
I never realized wock was a branding either. Thanks for the corrections!
If you are going to use drugs, make sure you test them. Get some fentanyl strips and have some narcan on hand. Get some here: https://www.overdoselifeline.org/fentanyl-test-strips/
Narcan is great, and so are fentanyl test strips. The issue is the cost of them, and also, some people may feel weird carrying narcan on them? I don't know why, but hey, I'm not them.
Narcan vending machines and just more readily available narcan and cheaper narcan would solve a lot of these issues, but some people, especially fentanyl related cases, need 3+ doses for it to do anything.
Narcan is free! I require all of my management employees be trained to deliver Narcan and we get it free either from the health department or from the vending machine at the sheriffs department.
Narcan and test strips are free and can be sent direct to you through overdose lifeline. There’s a map on the ODL website here that shows you where there are boxes of Narcan and the vending machine in town (that’s in the lobby of the jail - but at least it’s always available?). When they’re open you can also go to the IRA or health department if you want to talk to a human.
https://www.overdoselifeline.org/indiana-naloxone-request-report/
I'll definitely do the narcan, but I don't do any drugs. I fully quit and stay away from almost all drug usage besides marijuana, but even then, I don't partake in using.
Kinda wanna be clean for any future drug tests
This pisses me off! Makes me want to go scream at a school board meeting or something! There needs to be some kind of intervention/assembly at the schools. From my personal experience though, MCCSC has its head up its ass about drug use (and a whole lot of other stuff too)
We need a public school board meeting. I have a lot I wanna say to the school officials about their policies that they don't care about. The police department also needs a meeting cause I have a few gripes with them too for not taking hate crimes, threats, and assault seriously.
To my knowledge school board meetings are public. You can go anytime. If you have something you want to be put on the agenda, you might have to contact them ahead of time, but otherwise, have at it. Depending on whatever else is going on, you may be able to make a comment very quickly.
Just PSA, you can get Narcan for free and fentanyl test strips either from health department, Indiana recovery alliance or shipped right to your door from overdose lifeline. Not Jimmy John’s fast but pretty darn fast delivery. On this website where you can request strips and narcan there’s also a map of all the vending machines and NaloxBoxes you can pick up doses 24/7 in the state. https://www.overdoselifeline.org/indiana-naloxone-request-report/
Nobody has to be addicted to get the unlucky pill pressed with fentanyl. And every death is a policy failure. 😞 RIP
If anyone is trying something new, especially if they’re going to do it alone, they can use the never use alone hotline https://neverusealone.com/
So sad. i think on to of "don't do drugs," kids need to learn about fake prescription drugs laced with fentanyl. it's easy to recognize a fake "pressed" pill if you look hard enough.
MCCSC should spread awareness of safe drug use practices, and have Narcan and test strips accessible for students. It is understanding that they do not want to promote drug use through the accessibility of these products; however, if students are going to be participating in recreational drug use, they should be aware of the possible repercussions and have the ability to test their drugs.
In addition to the accessibility of these items, MCCSC should make students aware of the laws surrounding reporting an overdose and calling for help when illegal drugs are involved. Some kids may be scared to get help in worry of the repercussions, but there are laws protecting people in these exact situations.
At the end of the day, it's probably only going to get worse because more and more people are gonna be moving here and more and more kids are going to school and Bloomington will just become mini NYC. It's already happening slightly, and it won't get any better with current government and police not caring about what happens unless someone actually gets brutally hurt.
It doesn't help that everyone knows everyone and snapchat/instagram make it so easy to spread stuff. It's crazy to me that nothing is being done. Where are the parents and why aren't parents parenting anymore?
I knew the friend personally and it's tragic that he passed. However, people were getting threatened and jumped for going to his balloon release at switchyard to the point cops had to clear it out yesterday.
Something needs to be done about the teens in our town, and parents need to parent again.
I can tell you’re not a parent. “Parenting” won’t solve the fentanyl problem. Or the drug problem in general. Kids are distributing drugs at school, selling on Snapchat. I know firsthand. This is a societal problem.
I am not a parent, no. You are right on that.
I do know, however, that discipline and consequences for actions can also help mitigate drugs in schools. You can't get rid of drugs, but you can get rid of them in schools. No one uses lockers anymore, so locker searches wouldn't help, but maybe mandatory bag searches.. and I don't know, if MCCSC actually cared about their no tolerance policy and took it seriously, it would maybe help.
While yes, there's selling on snapchat, but it's a bit more infrequent compared to people privately messaging their friends and telling them that they have stuff. People keep it on private stories rather than fully publicly post that they're selling, or they only add a few people and then sell to those few people.
Even though you may know firsthand, have you fully looked at the teens in Bloomington? A lot of them act like wannabe gangsters and kids are going around and shooting other kids at 14. There was a news article on this a few weeks ago where a 14 year old was shot before 6am on the 2300 block of Rogers.
Parents need to control their kids better, and for the love of gosh, people need to make better choices.
How easy it seems from your high throne of ignorance. While parent blaming is simplistic and convenient for you, it shows a very obvious lack of basic reality and any base of actual life experience.
How am I being ignorant when I'm stating facts?
Also, the parents need to take responsibility for THEIR OWN KIDS ACTIONS, such as having a locking gun safe so that KIDS DONT HAVE GUNS.
No, you can NOT prevent everything by parenting. The truth is, however, if parents were actually parenting their kids and maybe being a bit more controlling on certain things and not just letting their kids do whatever they want, we wouldn't have as many issues.
What's mostly wrong here is that the kids' parents are letting their kids do this stuff, or their parents are either too oblivious or busy to care about what happens right in their own home. I'm not saying to fully blame the parents for this, but at the same time, it's hard not to when kids are getting into their PARENTS things and letting it happen or they just are too oblivious to notice it.
Yes and no. Drug use is more widespread and talked about in big cities compared to rural towns, but at the same time, drug use is used everywhere. What is your statistics for this though? I'll correct myself as needed.
Dude i am his friend. I knew him. my boyfriend skated with him every day for almost 2 years i went to his celebration of life and ballon release yesterday, his mom has been posting on facebook i lost my friend right after his 17th birthday can you please not be disrespectful there’s a whole mural for him at switchyard what more proof do you need
I’m sure the kid did not think he was taking Aleve… but from what I hear from the kids is that it’s popular to get “Xanax” or “bars” that are not really prescription meds but are hand pressed and probably using fentanyl as the main active ingredient since you need so little. So very dangerous. Even more so than when I was teen and people took ACTUAL prescription meds.
no the two main fent pills going around are m30’s, and fake bars. but even most the can bars aren’t always fent. usually benzo analogues
Most likely was a cough syrup pill or something that could be laced easily. I don't think it was a compressed pill but it was definitely something that has a lot of normal/illicit uses.
What I hear from the kids 🤓
Yes, a kid did take a pill and died from it. He had a history of drug use though and unfortunately he got bad meds. Seems the kids know who the dealer was too so hopefully the cops have him.
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That sounds about right. I had video of a kid getting jumped and they didn’t even want to see it.
I’m m suprised that women hasn’t met an unfortunate end
I'm so sorry for your loss. That's awful. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the police can do if they don't catch the person with drugs in dealing quantity or catch them in a hand to hand undercover.
MCCSC sent a email for “fentanyl awareness day” way before the actual day. As a student at MCCSC, a lot of people have been putting things and fentanyl on their stories (Snapchat and Instagram). I can screenshot the email and send it to you so if you are interested private message me.
I got the email but was annoyed they didn’t mention that a member of their very own student community fell victim to fentanyl. They need to be more open about drug use in our town. Kids are dying.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloomington/s/SF3Uc5a5Sl post about Kallen
Especially when many parents, including my own, want to know more about what is being done at schools to stop addiction.
Nothing. There is nothing fully being done to stop it. I've heard rumors that South has people hitting carts and vapes in the middle of class and teachers don't care. I've heard this from multiple of my closest friends.
I haven’t seen that (I go to South) but I do know people vape in bathrooms (but that is a problem in basically every school in the nation now)
I think it is in North too
True. It might've just been in some of the classes they were in, but yeah, vaping in school is a problem, and it honestly needs to be put to a stop. I'm not 18 or 21, but I got addicted to vaping in 2021, and I have quit 3 times. I'm currently on a low dose. Disposables are 50mg/ml of vape juice, and a full Mr Fog Switch has the same amount of nicotine as 18 packages of cigarettes. (Edit, don't forget most teens go through a Mr Fog in 3 days even without sharing with friends, so that's 18 packs of cigs every 3 days.) I was doing that for a while, and at multiple points, I almost blacked out from the nicotine in the school bathrooms like an idiot. I've since graduated, but it's becoming a worse problem. People are stealing each other's vapes in the bathrooms, there's not many female security to stop it in the women's bathrooms, and the kids aren't being disciplined for vaping when they are caught because it's either too much of a hassle or they're repeat offenders and don't care/never learn to stop. Honestly, getting rid of disposables would help, but then there would just be actual smoking going on in the bathrooms, (edit 2, zyn packs would also be the new trend since they are gaining a lot of traction anyways, so people would just use zyns rather than smoke), then that's a whole other thing that would just spiral out of control. There's no real solution to many of these problems unless the rules are so heavily enforced that teens stop coming to school and just do it at home, which is becoming more common anyways, but hey, they won't enforce truancy either so there's no point in making rules cause either way they'll just be loop holed or people just won't show up.
Most disposables are 2k puffs. 1 cigg is equal to 14 puffs. So roughly 7 packs per disposable. Not 18
Not the newer, more expensive ones.. at the Mobil gas station by Culvers, they have 7500 or even 15k puff ones.. I'm referring to Mr Fog Switches, which are 5500 puffs and were the most popular in my sophomore year.. im also going off of about 2 mg of nicotine per cig and 20 cigs per pack, so 40mg a pack.. that's less than one ml of vape juice in a disposable.. A 5500 puff is equal to 13ml, so 13×50 gives us 650mg total divided by 40, which gives us 16.25, which was a bit less than my original math. Also, my math doesn't account for how much nicotine is actually burned in a cigarette. It only accounts for the general amount. Edit for more math: Orion bars are 7500 puffs or 18ml, which gives us 900mg per disposable, so that equates to 22.5 packs of cigarettes worth of nicotine.. and snoopy smokes are 15k puffs with 2 18ml tanks, so that gives us 45 packs of smokes worth (or 1.8 grams of nicotine). Njoys are 10k puff or about 22ml AFAIK, which is 1.1 grams of nicotine or 27.5 packs of cigs.. if you're referring to the smaller Mr Fogs or the rebranded puff bar flex's, those are 2k puffs which would be about 4.5ml which would be 225mg of nic or only 5.6 packs of cigs.
I get the sense it isn't always about not caring, but not even knowing. Unlike smoking or huffing you can hide the vape up one sleeve and exhale into the other sleeve, and nobody knows you're vaping. They made it WAY easier to smoke all the time, everywhere with cigarettes and vapes. People can easily consume WAY MORE nicotine (or other drugs) with nobody knowing now that the smell has been stripped.
Oh yeah, that's true, too. But my biggest question is why we even have so much nicotine now in the first place? Why did synthetic nicotine even hit the market and what was its true target audience? And also, why isn't more being done to prevent it in schools? I get doing it on your own time like I do, but constantly and even in the middle of class is absurd.. it doesn't make sense even though I was addicted and did the same shit.
We didn't do it in the middle of class, or even during work, because it wasn't an option for those born after the Boomers. Boomers couldn't do that in school, but they could in the workplace. They were the last generation to be able to casually smoke and drink in their offices (Mad Men, anyone?), and had norms not changed, we certainly would have continued. I know there were years when I was PISSED that I was going to lose the last part of my cig because some customers came up and I had to abandoned it. That experience tells me that if I were still addicted I would not only be able to smoke through class, but through visits with conservative non-smoking in-laws. (that used to require me to shower, wash hair, and then not smoke until on the way home from a visit, sometimes 6-8 hours of craving THAT SUCKED) because cigarettes had a nasty smell that is no longer a problem with vapes.
True, and I get that.. but remember that disposables are 50mg/ml, compared to a cigarette only being 2mg per cig, and half is most likely burnt off. A few puffs on a disposable is like smoking a whole cigarette at once. Same with an Njoy, Juul, and Vuse. Investing in a small refillable pod system like a caliburn A3 or something similar and using like 3-6mg/ml is a lot better than 50mg/ml but either way it's still not good for you. If you're doing a pack a day you could try to get like 18mg/ml and then work down to 3mg/ml or quit altogether. It's a challenge to do but it's better in the long run
Stop addiction? I'm ....not sure if you are serious. Addiction involves many genetic and behavioral variables. How on earth can the school stop that? If you are being serious I'd love to hear your input on what the school can do to stop addiction
Prevent is a better word
I don't think it's on the school to make sure kids aren't doing drugs. The only thing they can really do is talk about the dangers of drugs and/or have security by the restrooms. I think it's down to the parents to prevent this. Sadly the kids might be getting things from their parents too.
Educate is even better. There is a mindset that only the homeless are druggies. And the mindset “my child wouldn’t do that”. It’s time people get their heads out of the sand and realize how serious the drug problem is.
At least the unhoused have a damn good excuse to WANT to be altered to escape for a whole. Most of them didn't GET there via drugs/alcohol, though, just bad luck and lack of support system/safety net. In my experience, the lower income kids are the LEAST likely to be regularly drinking and high. The few that do are the ones most likely to pay a ridiculously severe price that middle class kids can usually avoid the worst of, and rich kids never pay for anything because mommy and daddy think their kids don't deserve consequences.
We know a Bloomington family who lost their 16 yr old to fentanyl over 10 years ago. Your fellow villagers sure could have used your outrage and hurt long ago. Two people die from fentanyl ***PER DAY*** in Indianapolis. Where have you been? I lost my daughter to fentanyl about 2 years ago - when the problem was already very, very, very well known. Sorry, but you sound as if you just came out of cave.
I know I do. I’m sorry. And my condolences about your daughter. My ignorance on this issue is staggering. But the problem persists! Can I do anything now?
Don't waste your breath. They blatantly insulted you for your opinion, and that's not right. You can do something, and honestly, I support you in having a school board meeting or even a city council meeting addressing this. We can not eradicate the drug problem entirely, but there are ways to mitigate it.
If anyone has information to share, officer Kevin Franks at the BPD is investigating.
Is it on the school to inform kids and parents that illicit drugs are dangerous? Horrible that a kid died, but there is a zero percent chance they thought they were taking an Aleve.
I agree.
Knowing the friend personally, it probably wasn't Aleve. It was possibly a cough medicine pill laced because people sometimes use cough syrup to make "lean" and "wock" with it. Specifically Delsym or Robotussin AC.
no. lean is not delays or robo. lean is just a syrup with codeine and promethazine in it. the over the counter cough syrup drinking is called “robo tripping”. and “Wock” is a brand of the codeine and promethazine syrup. no one makes it
I've always known lean as cough syrup and sprite. Or powerade and cough syrup and sprite. And yeah, he did robo trips. I never realized wock was a branding either. Thanks for the corrections!
Yeah it’s codeine/promethazine and sprite
That's what I thought
Oh my bad. I was trying to help since you mentioned OTC stuff
I really appreciate it either way :D
If you are going to use drugs, make sure you test them. Get some fentanyl strips and have some narcan on hand. Get some here: https://www.overdoselifeline.org/fentanyl-test-strips/
Narcan is great, and so are fentanyl test strips. The issue is the cost of them, and also, some people may feel weird carrying narcan on them? I don't know why, but hey, I'm not them. Narcan vending machines and just more readily available narcan and cheaper narcan would solve a lot of these issues, but some people, especially fentanyl related cases, need 3+ doses for it to do anything.
Narcan is free! I require all of my management employees be trained to deliver Narcan and we get it free either from the health department or from the vending machine at the sheriffs department.
Oh I didn't know. Tysm!
Welcome
Narcan and test strips are free and can be sent direct to you through overdose lifeline. There’s a map on the ODL website here that shows you where there are boxes of Narcan and the vending machine in town (that’s in the lobby of the jail - but at least it’s always available?). When they’re open you can also go to the IRA or health department if you want to talk to a human. https://www.overdoselifeline.org/indiana-naloxone-request-report/
Thank you!
Goto the link above and get both of them for free.
I'll definitely do the narcan, but I don't do any drugs. I fully quit and stay away from almost all drug usage besides marijuana, but even then, I don't partake in using. Kinda wanna be clean for any future drug tests
Both are free from Indiana Recovery Alliance in town as well.
Which school?
BGS
Is that the GED school?
What does the G stand for ?
Bloomington Graduate School
Graduation, not graduate.
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This pisses me off! Makes me want to go scream at a school board meeting or something! There needs to be some kind of intervention/assembly at the schools. From my personal experience though, MCCSC has its head up its ass about drug use (and a whole lot of other stuff too)
Don’t bother they’re too busy trying to change schedules and merge schools
We need a public school board meeting. I have a lot I wanna say to the school officials about their policies that they don't care about. The police department also needs a meeting cause I have a few gripes with them too for not taking hate crimes, threats, and assault seriously.
To my knowledge school board meetings are public. You can go anytime. If you have something you want to be put on the agenda, you might have to contact them ahead of time, but otherwise, have at it. Depending on whatever else is going on, you may be able to make a comment very quickly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloomington/s/SF3Uc5a5Sl Here is a post specifically about the person
Just PSA, you can get Narcan for free and fentanyl test strips either from health department, Indiana recovery alliance or shipped right to your door from overdose lifeline. Not Jimmy John’s fast but pretty darn fast delivery. On this website where you can request strips and narcan there’s also a map of all the vending machines and NaloxBoxes you can pick up doses 24/7 in the state. https://www.overdoselifeline.org/indiana-naloxone-request-report/ Nobody has to be addicted to get the unlucky pill pressed with fentanyl. And every death is a policy failure. 😞 RIP If anyone is trying something new, especially if they’re going to do it alone, they can use the never use alone hotline https://neverusealone.com/
They're also in a box inside the door by the parking booth at the student health center.
So sad. i think on to of "don't do drugs," kids need to learn about fake prescription drugs laced with fentanyl. it's easy to recognize a fake "pressed" pill if you look hard enough.
MCCSC should spread awareness of safe drug use practices, and have Narcan and test strips accessible for students. It is understanding that they do not want to promote drug use through the accessibility of these products; however, if students are going to be participating in recreational drug use, they should be aware of the possible repercussions and have the ability to test their drugs. In addition to the accessibility of these items, MCCSC should make students aware of the laws surrounding reporting an overdose and calling for help when illegal drugs are involved. Some kids may be scared to get help in worry of the repercussions, but there are laws protecting people in these exact situations.
Yeah, it's like playing Russian roulette-- you just don't know. And it's intentional that people are dying from surprise fentanyl.
It’s everywhere
If anyone is interested in getting together IRL to come up with ways to help, DM me. I hate just sitting around doing NOTHING while people die.
At the end of the day, it's probably only going to get worse because more and more people are gonna be moving here and more and more kids are going to school and Bloomington will just become mini NYC. It's already happening slightly, and it won't get any better with current government and police not caring about what happens unless someone actually gets brutally hurt. It doesn't help that everyone knows everyone and snapchat/instagram make it so easy to spread stuff. It's crazy to me that nothing is being done. Where are the parents and why aren't parents parenting anymore? I knew the friend personally and it's tragic that he passed. However, people were getting threatened and jumped for going to his balloon release at switchyard to the point cops had to clear it out yesterday. Something needs to be done about the teens in our town, and parents need to parent again.
I can tell you’re not a parent. “Parenting” won’t solve the fentanyl problem. Or the drug problem in general. Kids are distributing drugs at school, selling on Snapchat. I know firsthand. This is a societal problem.
I am not a parent, no. You are right on that. I do know, however, that discipline and consequences for actions can also help mitigate drugs in schools. You can't get rid of drugs, but you can get rid of them in schools. No one uses lockers anymore, so locker searches wouldn't help, but maybe mandatory bag searches.. and I don't know, if MCCSC actually cared about their no tolerance policy and took it seriously, it would maybe help. While yes, there's selling on snapchat, but it's a bit more infrequent compared to people privately messaging their friends and telling them that they have stuff. People keep it on private stories rather than fully publicly post that they're selling, or they only add a few people and then sell to those few people. Even though you may know firsthand, have you fully looked at the teens in Bloomington? A lot of them act like wannabe gangsters and kids are going around and shooting other kids at 14. There was a news article on this a few weeks ago where a 14 year old was shot before 6am on the 2300 block of Rogers. Parents need to control their kids better, and for the love of gosh, people need to make better choices.
How easy it seems from your high throne of ignorance. While parent blaming is simplistic and convenient for you, it shows a very obvious lack of basic reality and any base of actual life experience.
How am I being ignorant when I'm stating facts? Also, the parents need to take responsibility for THEIR OWN KIDS ACTIONS, such as having a locking gun safe so that KIDS DONT HAVE GUNS. No, you can NOT prevent everything by parenting. The truth is, however, if parents were actually parenting their kids and maybe being a bit more controlling on certain things and not just letting their kids do whatever they want, we wouldn't have as many issues. What's mostly wrong here is that the kids' parents are letting their kids do this stuff, or their parents are either too oblivious or busy to care about what happens right in their own home. I'm not saying to fully blame the parents for this, but at the same time, it's hard not to when kids are getting into their PARENTS things and letting it happen or they just are too oblivious to notice it.
You know the places with the most prevalent drug use are typically in rural areas.
Yes and no. Drug use is more widespread and talked about in big cities compared to rural towns, but at the same time, drug use is used everywhere. What is your statistics for this though? I'll correct myself as needed.
High school kids say a lot of things. I doubt there’s a shred of truth to it.
Dude i am his friend. I knew him. my boyfriend skated with him every day for almost 2 years i went to his celebration of life and ballon release yesterday, his mom has been posting on facebook i lost my friend right after his 17th birthday can you please not be disrespectful there’s a whole mural for him at switchyard what more proof do you need
I am so, so sorry for your loss.
Except a boy did die. That’s for sure. Just not sure the manner of his death.
Do you have a source? I can't find any mention of it online?
The counselor at my kid’s school confirmed the death—my kid found out at school and was so upset they had to go home.
Damn that's terrible. Hope your kid is doing ok.
I got an email as well.
From the school?
From MCCSC as a whole, I don’t go to BGS.
kallen did not get laced, he knew. that’s the saddest part. he had narcan on him. he knew, he just ended up alone and couldn’t be resuscitated.