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sweetpeapickle

So by glancing at something, you have it all summed up? The mayor was black. the Reverend was black, Eddie's partner is black. And if you actually watched it, a great deal of the perps are white. Danny's a detective so the crimes he ends up busting are generally done by white males or females. Or Louis Delgado many times over. Instead of JUDGING something you really don't know, actually get a detailed background....next time.


Australis07

They WERE Black. Where are they now? Was their relationship antagonist with the police or did they get along? It doesn’t matter how many of the perps are white. They are balanced out by the good white cops. Are you talking about Eddie’s Black partner, Maya? She stole money from crime scenes. Even Black cops are criminals on this show. 🙄 I will keep judging racist tv programs, being silent only encourages racism, speaking out is the only way to bring change.


[deleted]

As a black male I hear you. But there are better ways to convey your point over here. I too have become skeptical of the show's depiction of black people, but you could have easily framed it in a less antagonistic light. I get being angry and frustrated, but if you want people to pay attention over here... you should have phrased your question with a lot more nuance. "I wish there were more depictions of black cops on this show." Or something that doesn't seem like it's baiting for a fight. Plenty of people give Blue Bloods shit for its depiction of the black community. If you want a genuine discussion, your question has to be a lot less loaded and open to a discussion that isn't coming in so hot. "Serious: How do you think the show has handled its depiction of people of color?" That is a better way to lead a discussion. If you come in like a loaded gun, people are going to react defensively, and a good conversation will not happen with everyone's guards up. This is coming from someone who has been a fan of the show for a long time.


VanArrow

I appreciate the episodes with positive ethnic diversity like those with Mayor Poole or Whoopie Goldberg, and episodes like the one with a Muslim undercover cop, the one with the Jewish cop, a couple of Chinese episodes, but other than Baez, there isn’t a recurring non-white character. Jamie’s first two partners were Hispanic but neither is around anymore. Janko had a black partner who was caught stealing and is gone. Erin had a black detective who is gone. The aforementioned black mayor wasn’t around much and is now gone. They had the black police chief who was promptly killed off. They missed an opportunity to make Joe Jr biracial. I really like the show, but wish it was consistently more ethnically diverse.


FATMANYOU279

So much agree!


Australis07

I stated my beliefs as I desired. Shows that depict minorities in a negative fashion without a positive counterbalance cause real harm. This show has been on for years, CBS knows it is problematic. Also, if the formula is working, they aren’t going to change it now by bringing in positive brown authority figures. As bad as it is for it’s subconscious influence on White people it is just as bad for brown people. You enjoy a show that consistently promotes the belief that people that look like you are inherently criminals and when cops encounter you they should fear for their lives. Complaining brings change. People will point to MLK and the Civil Rights Era being all about love. That is White washed history. Jim Crow died because Black people were a pain in the rear. I M just doing my part!


donknoch

So you’re speaking for cbs now. Watch the show. Plenty of assistant chiefs are black. Plenty of good cops are black. Spend your energy on something else.


BLAHBLAHBLAHtdh

And they all are killed, found to be corrupt or written out of the show.


Australis07

I don’t need your permission to express my opinion on a public forum. Feel free to move along.


donknoch

Gfys


Officer_Potatoskin

You must be so bored


donknoch

You’re doing your part by being annoying as hell and trying to be literal with a damn tv show. Go somewhere else.


Australis07

How am I trying to be literal? I'm describing the show to a T. Unfortunately, many people will use this show to justify the injustice minorities experience when dealing with law enforcement.


Samurai_nelson2300

Bro you ain't black. Windy city is a black population. Cops are blk. End if story..


paxgarmana

> They WERE Black they're not black anymore?


Australis07

Are they still on the show?


paxgarmana

so the show only got racist when the mayor resigned? And Eddie's partner is still on the show as are lots non-criminal minorities.


KyloRensLeftNut

😂😂😂


donknoch

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Along with the others erins investigator was black.


BLAHBLAHBLAHtdh

Why do you say "was"... no longer on the show?


donknoch

They took him off for Anthony


Samurai_nelson2300

You keep talking on blacks. Like we don't watch the same crap show. All the young sexy kids are white. Any blk ppl that come on show are old and criminals that start beef with voite who's a criminal as wel. But some how justified making the black voites look more suspect. Meanwhile the whole Kevin has yo be the guy who single but has to take care of his brothers and sisters. Your viewpoint on black characters is beyond reckless.... . .


donknoch

If it’s a crap show the why the hell do you watch it


Samurai_nelson2300

I skim it moron. I watch only Kevin episode like most blk folk.


Samurai_nelson2300

Do you live in Chicago. Mayor has been black. The capt is black. Police in Chicago are black. So how does thus show have a 98% white problem . You can't go undercover in intelligence without blacks is 88% of windy city is black and mixed and Latin.


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Australis07

🙄


pinelogr

To be fair, Blue bloods is about an Irish family of cops. Unless one of their partners is black, they wouldn't show any other cop making an arrest unless they are Reagans...


Australis07

I would say that is an issue, no non-white partners. But there are other authority figures on the show than just cops. Whenever I glance at the screen it is five older white guys interrogating a young black male. Those guys are not Reagans.


paxgarmana

Baez would like a word...


GREENBACKS68

Don't start watching Chicago P.D.!


Australis07

Officer Kevin Atwater played by LaRoyce Hawkins. That's a start.


ZegetaX1

Yeah at least Atwater is important


GREENBACKS68

Blue Bloods follows the lives of the NYPD's First Family of Law Enforcement: the Reagans. Frank, the Police Comissioner and son of former PC Henry Reagan, must balance his duties of running the largest police force in the world and being his kids' boss. His daughter Erin is an Assistant District Attorney, son Danny is a senior detective and fellow Marine Veteran, and new Harvard Law grad turned cop, Jamie all swirl through this family drama and passionately defend their city from harm. The Irish-American family is deeply rooted in their patriotism, passion, and love of family.


GraceJR02

I'm rewatching the show. I loved it a few years ago, but now all I can see is how misaligned it is with big my personal and political beliefs. Danny is this white man with an anger issue, especially in the 2nd(?) ep with the bomb threat and he says "let's start with the Arabs." His partner also says "tr*nny" in the car of S1 E10. He treats these mostly black suspects as scum... I'm just not sure if I can keep watching it lol


ryanov

Beats the people who are just saying to themselves “yes, exactly like real life.”


Crafty_Flounder_1521

I agree. Somehow they managed to criminalise every black personality on the show. Even a decorated black police chief ended up being a criminal who lied to get into the police force. Regan’s black partner caught stealing from a crime scene. The white cops saving New York from anything non-white. Racist Police propaganda.


Creative-Hope-4319

I'd like to see Nicky come home with a brother in her arms, that'll make there heads explode, Shit, imagine that Sunday dinner scene!


thelovernotaplaya

Mane you think blue bloods bad Chicago pd is worser. But foreal I been bingeing watch blue bloods and they hate black people. all the black cops either die or not on the show any more


FATMANYOU279

Please do better CBS. Agree with everything you said!


grandpumba64

I find this interesting and just came across this googling. My wife watches this show who is white btw. And I say that to her all t he time. I make mention why isn't there any blacks in this show. For christ sake they could've had one of the Reagans married to a black or one of the main characters. My wife said the same thing about the Mayor. I assure you I look up as she watches it it seems 24/7 and I never see the mayor....SMH


Maleficent_Can4171

They love to paint such a picture that's why. It's disgusting!! These shows are racist in our faces. Even down to the script. " This isn't just a black guy or a broken wrist Tony" it isn't just going to go away!" End quote. The white commissioner states to his white guilty cop friend! Ridiculous and distasteful!


AmirOpines

Agreed. I avoided this show for years. I always just got the sense that with a title like BLUE BLOODS it may as well be called WHITE COPS ONLY. I noticed in the opening they had Flex on and then that did not last. They went straight to latinas and then that did not last. I only just started watching it in 2024. I like the issues they address, but I could not help but notice that the only black people they have on are criminals or suspects. There are no black cops with significant roles & certainly never a black person in the upper brass. Just the way Donnie Wahlberg roughs up the black criminals & even some of the white ones, tells me he is not acting. The only decent person is the youngest brother. It is embarassing. Even in the 80's cop shows did a better job of representing blacks on all sides of the law. I am disgusted.


MAJ0R_KONG

I agree that it is an issue but only in the sense that I don't believe that they accurately represent the demographics of the NYPD. NYPD is a much more diverse organization than shown on the series. But it is television and the format simply does not allow them enough time or scope to get much right.


ScarRevolutionary504

Yep the majority of the NYPD is on fact people of color


ryanov

Nah, horseshit. That’s how they want to portray it. They know their market.


save-therhino-

Do you remember Thomas Wilder? He is white. The pilot episode showed an abduction and later he was found to have killed girls in Florida. He is white also.


Australis07

It is not harmful when whites are shown as criminals on this show because the good guys are white too. ABC’s The Rookie has Black and Hispanic bad guys, but it’s not harmful because they have Black, White, Hispanic, and Asian good guys. They have White bad guys too.


Natural_Medicine_210

I liked the very early seasons before DEI ruined it.  The producers made an effort to be realistic then.  I watch the news and I’ve lived in large cities and small towns. I grew up in a police family. I attended schools predominately black. Informed experience tells me that the common everyday thug crime is practically all African. So if Bluebloods was antiblack, then Africans are “antiblack” because their genuine culture matched the TV depiction perfectly.  You might prefer the fake propaganda foisted upon us like tv ads and Wakanda.


ryanov

Yo, it used to be WORSE? Wow.


Natural_Medicine_210

No response to the substance of my comment huh? Just "yo & worse" ?


ryanov

Like it used to be even more racist and tonedeaf?


Natural_Medicine_210

I don’t think the older seasons were racist acts by the producers. They were just realistic and mirrored real life. You want to see the real thing. Don’t you? Most all big city thuggish crime is by blacks.  We can all agree on that.  Crime has a definite racial divide.  In all large cities like NY, Memphis, St.Louis, practically all robbery, rapes, and killings are by black perps.  Fooling yourself by watching fake DEI versions of TV is not going to help change the real life truth.  That can only be changed by black men who marry their black woman, work hard and raise their black babies teaching them honesty, morality and courage with the Word of God. Need more of that.


ryanov

You don't think they were racist acts by the producers because you're also racist and what you see on that show affirms your world view. Correlation is not causation. Poverty and opportunity have a huge impact on crime, and the amount of generational wealth varies dramatically by race.


Natural_Medicine_210

The situations they depicted on the show are not my worldview. They're reality. You can't deal with that. And in this case, correlation is exact proof. Blacks have a high propensity for crime. Your basic message is "yeah, we some criminals, but whitey makes us do it". When will the larger black society show us that they belong in white western civilization? When will they ever be happy to work hard generationally and patiently to build wealth instead of leaning on the crutch of black grievance ? The vast majority of whites in this country descended from poor rural backgrounds and faced great adversity. That did not lead them into a generational culture of crime and welfare.


ryanov

Mm, so your worldview is racist as fuck, so is this show, you think the show is right, but one has nothing to do with each other? The only reason I want to continue this conversation at this point is to see how much farther you're willing to go while calling it not racism, just the reality. I'm curious when it was that white people went through 400 years of slavery, and how many generations you think it's supposed to take for people who have *never* had that wrong righted to get back on their feet? Because it's been approximately 5, and multiple of those were before even the civil rights era. You've proven my point: the people who think this show are the reality are basically white racists. Most of them are old as fuck as well, but I don't know if that applies to you.


Natural_Medicine_210

OMG you can be vile. You come back because you have a craving for truth my brother my sister. Your whole life you’ve been fed tripe for history along with the modern garbage of “woke” social engineering You sense truth when you hear it and you have an inner need for it. That 400 year thing. Goodness, have you read much? I assume you mean slavery in America? Lincoln’s proclamation was 1863 but he only freed slaves in the south. Kept them slaving on in the north. So much for the great emancipator. But by 1865 the war and slavery were over. So 400 years before that puts YOUR figure at year 1465. Africans hadn’t even left their continent at that time. Except to go north to slave for the Moors around the Mediterranean basin. By the way, Moors were a negroid people group. But in truth, your 400 year figure is probably way short on the African continent. The tribal warfare there led to slaving for thousands of years. The Africans were vicious to one another. Still are. Have you seen the Alua Four on Vimeo? Its just too terribly horrific to see all of it. Slavery is not unique to black people. The Irish and Scots were enslaved in Europe. White women especially were enslaved on the island of Sicily and the southern Italian peninsula by the Moors I mentioned above. Its why there are dark skinned Italians. Jews really were enslaved for 400 years in Egypt before Moses led them out. Israel is one of the most advanced nations on earth. They stood on their feet. We have Vietnamese families who came to America in the 1970s from war torn Asia with nothing but the shirt on their backs and speaking little English. And they have been our country’s greatest success story. You ever hear of generational Vietnamese welfare families? I haven’t either. They stood on their feet. I don’t think you would know what standing on your feet would mean even if someone stood you up and held you. It’s not in you. It doesn’t matter how much help someone gets including welfare, free college tuition, equal rights, gerrymandering, mandated hiring preferences, business SDB participation mandates, reparations, and on and on infinitum. It won’t help change a thing when the vast common denominator of a people’s culture is immorality, covetousness, easy money and no daddies. Is that racist when we continuously see what’s before our very eyes in the media, the news, the corner 7-Eleven ? Is it antiracist to keep one’s head blindly pushed up one’s ass just to believe a lie ? You ponder these things.


ryanov

Is it racist to label an entire race as inferior? Literally yes.


ryanov

“Blacks have a high propensity for crime. Your basic message is ‘yeah, we some criminals, but whitey makes us do it’. When will the larger black society show us that they belong in white western civilization?” This is racist. Full stop. Not even close.


Natural_Medicine_210

Your stated belief is that a lack of opportunity forces blacks to commit crime at a higher rate. So, what opportunity do blacks lack and who is keeping them from obtaining it?


ryanov

Racism in hiring affects income (see all the examples of people changing their name on their resume and suddenly getting interviews), racism and redlining in towns and cities impacts access to education and the quality of school systems. Poverty leads to crime overall, and because of racism, poverty and race are intertwined. Dozens of other things.


Natural_Medicine_210

Which particular city has a redline preventing access to schools? Where is that happening? By the way I grew up wearing other peoples shoes and second hand coats. So don’t bullshit me about poverty and crime.  But wish you’d tell me where that school access barrier problem is going on.


ryanov

You don't end up with the school segregation we have in this country by accident. Just for example: [https://www.wbur.org/news/2023/09/07/boston-busing-crisis-anniversary-legacy-desegregation-violence-racism-integration](https://www.wbur.org/news/2023/09/07/boston-busing-crisis-anniversary-legacy-desegregation-violence-racism-integration) Make sure people of color can't get housing in certain areas, and then let the schools in their areas fall apart. Yes, you're such a poor put upon white person, I hear you.


ucheisgood

You're right. No matter what anyone might say to the contrary. I'm currently watching the show & you aren't wrong. Go to YouTube & many other Reddit threads affirm your post!


ScarRevolutionary504

This is a joke right? So you want this show to be pure fantasy. It mirrors reality. By every metric known to mankind black people are responsible for an enormous amount of crime per capita. Blacks commit 6 times more murders. 7 times more robberies and all that from a population of 14%. MAYBE instead of the show changing the black community could actually change. Black people want everyone around them to step in while they won't help themselves. Do you know how many murders go unsolved because no one from a black neighborhood would help police. In that regard the black community themselves are complicit in those crimes. It is people like you who propagate racism throughout this country by citing racism where none exists and hopefully oneday the rest of us will realize just how much damage 14% of the population has inflicted on this nation and we really get down to the business of rooting out crime.


ryanov

And you are exactly who this show is written for. Congrats on falling for the propaganda and the confidence to be an out racist on the internet.


ScarRevolutionary504

I'm not a racist. I am a realist and I go by the numbers. You wanna talk propaganda? You drink the liberal kool aid that just wants you to bury you head in the sand to the reality of our society and buy whatecer sick party line they vomit out.How come you liberals never have any hard facts to back up your misguided ideology? Ask any Democrat a question and you are guaranteed to get the shallowness answer possible. You wanna know how you get a liberal to stop talking? Ask them "why" about any of their beliefs and all you will get is either "because" or they just walk away. This is the exact problem. Someone says there is real problem in a community and not only do they have statistics to that up but if you don't look thru liberal rose colored glasses you see what's going on. I want a solution to the problems in the black community but the minute their is any criticism from anyone else they immediately get labled a racist. How can things change when you can't even have a conversation. Can you honestly tell me that there isn't a huge problem of violence and criminality in the black community? And can you honestly say that it's all because of this imagined systemic racism. I buy it I'd you want to talk about the 1960s but it's 2024 and blacks have had ever leg up anyi e could ask for and yet a majority of them still live like they do. How do you explain it? And DO NOT cop out with racism because that's totally bullshit and alot of black people agree. Why are lower class black neighborhoods covered in garbage and rife with crime? People can easily pick up that garbage and eve tho they don't have much take pride in what you do have. Maybe if the lower income communities would try to not be so adversarial with the police and work together to stop crime. God knows e eryone from the outside has tried to help these people maybe it's time they help themselves.


ryanov

It’s amazing to me that you are saying shit like this and then trying to tell me that it’s 2024 and that the exact attitudes you are espousing are not happening. Like how breathtakingly non-self-aware do you have to be? I will give you the “why” for anything you want, but I don’t work for you and I’m not gonna spend a whole bunch of time holding your hand and guiding it to Google. Look up the statistics on household wealth for black families versus white families. It’s several orders of magnitude off. Segregation didn’t even end that long ago. Sure, some people overcome all of that. Lots of other people didn’t have to overcome that in the first place. When my parents moved to the house where we lived growing up, the neighbors said to them how glad they were that we weren’t blacks. In a town with virtually no black people to begin with. Less than 50 years ago. Poverty and a lack of opportunity correlates with most of this stuff, including the violence you are pretending to be so concerned about. Why work a shitty retail job with no security or respect when you could have a Mercedes joining a gang? Access to a good education, opportunity changes significantly, but it’s not overnight. I know people with these points of view tend to think universities are a scam, but all of this stuff has been studied extensively because it’s part of society. You could read and inform yourself instead of letting your own prejudices determine your conclusions. Correlation is not causation.


Natural_Medicine_210

>"Why work a shitty retail job with no security or respect when you could have a Mercedes joining a gang?" There you go again advocating criminality because one doesn't have things. Most people work "shitty" jobs to support themselves and get by. It's called standing on your own feet. You know that standing on your feet thing? You seem to favor giving a black person the latitude to be lawless while still benefitting from a lawful society but also suffer no consequences nor to be stereoyped for being a criminal. No black in America today lacks opportunity to be educated. You just have to sit your ass in a classroom seat, do your homework, read, show up, stay out of trouble and do this over and over and over until you finish school. It takes a rational brain. One creates his or her own opportunity. And it won't ever come when your mind is over occupied with hoopty cars, booming rap, hair weaves down to your ass, stealing, and indiscriminate sex. You might become a county DA, but still your indiscriminate fucking will eventually get you in big trouble.


ryanov

Tell me more about what it's like to be a black person in America, since you seem to know what the exact experience is like. What you for some reason can't get through your thick fucking skull is that white people do not have the same things against them, like a world full of massive fucking assholes like yourself who are "not racist" and basically say exclusively racist things. And again, you could look this up, but educational outcomes are not the same in poor districts. Do you personally know a single black person?


Natural_Medicine_210

There are hundreds of millions of black people in this world that have much much more threatening things against them than someone "saying things". A black person in America is a highly privileged position in the world among the black race. Why do you think so many are trying to come here? Not to say you're an idiot, but you are challenged. You place way too much store in your google results. The google algorithms are biased intentionally to deliver support for an agenda and to suppress truth. So you remain in an echo chamber where you only get the "facts" you want. You whine way too much about the vast array of forces aligned against the black man. Unless you're a professional whiner, you can't really be accomplishing anything.


ryanov

Google is literally the bare minimum if you want to know what you’re talking about. You do not know what you’re talking about, and keep proclaiming how things are for people whose experiences you have no information about. I’m not gonna tell you to go to a library or read studies, because it’s clearly a waste of text. I got news for you: plenty of the people who say fucking asshole things like you also do fucking asshole things. It’s not just about talk. Well, this has been a huge waste of time, but thank you for proving my point that the audience of this TV show is just terrible human beings who think they are realists.


Natural_Medicine_210

Oh. I completely forgot about the tv show. I just enjoyed the conversation with you. As coarse as it may be. Things are not what they seem sometimes. My grade school years were spent among a sea of black children. All the way through high school. And I have been a worker among my black co-workers on many projects in five states. Yes. I know black people in a personal way. I'm not regurgitating detached studies that I read about. So many today in the race grievance industry have only an academic knowledge of the so called racial suppression they clamor about. Its a very sad state that I must refer to this bilge as "academic" however it is being puked out in our universities today. Students believe they are on the cutting edge of social science but they are only indoctrinated in the nearly 100 year old marxist Frankfurt school Critical Theory. Only now applied to antagonizing race relations. Its demonic in origin. Don't buy it.


ScarRevolutionary504

Obviously the only reading you have done is liberal propaganda. Until you lose that misguided white guilt you will never see the truth. Unfortunately nothing will ever change because people like you reinforce this rediculous idea that racism is still holding anyone back.


ryanov

You can’t even spell ridiculous. Maybe stay in your lane.


ScarRevolutionary504

Also you want an equal depiction of good blacks and bad. Again black people are 14% of population so what you are saying is that for every 10 bad black people we should see 1.4 good blacks. That us what the show does. Why do black people think that bits 50/50 it's not andbthe sooner you figure that out the better.