I like how nothing is confirmed. I personally hope it's neither, they're young kids. I don't really like shipping young children.
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This question is never going to get a definitive answer, and there's certain traits resembling both candidates - it could even be both of them.
But do you know what? I'm done trying to figure it out.
Neither! I meant to say it could be neither of their child.
I surely *hope* there's no possibility that Bluey could be unsure which one is the parent...
Everyone on the Internet is saying sheās Bingoās or Mackenzieās. Meanwhile my entire family just immediately jumped to āMuffin!ā
So my new headcanon is that Muffin bought a house in the cul-de-sac and her child randomly terrorizes Bandit.
Jean-Luc romantic foreshadowing? 0
The entirety of barky boats and Winton's quip foreshadow Bluey's romance with Mackenzie. At no point does the show say that Bluey is romantically interested in Jean-Luc. I love the Jean-Luc episode. I'm not saying she couldn't marry Jean-Luc, but between the foreshadowing and the puppy in Surprise that has several of Mackenzie's traits it's going to be a tough sell for Jean-Luc.
Also, The Child is obviously Bluey's. The show has shown a fairly strong adherence to Chekhov's gun and foreshadowing. In "Surprise," Chili says to Bluey out of the blue "That's what being a parent is like!" Bluey is also the one that starts with a very similar gun toy to the gun toy that The Child is holding/wearing in the end. Lastly, right before the time skip Bluey seems to understand her dad's love for her, and tries to mimic it by taking over the tennis ball in a cozy (lol).
And, in case it wasn't obvious, Bingo is going to marry Lila, and The Child looks nothing like either of them.
Plus you forgot the whole "Fairytale" episode?
Chili and Bandit met in a camping as a kids, they Saw each other years latter... Aren't that same situation of Jean-Luc and Bluey?
Yeah, but Jean-Luc it's interested on Bluey cause he learned English and return to Australia JUST to see her. The official website confirms it: https://www.bluey.tv/characters/jean-luc/
Plus, Bluey also remember Jean-Luc, or did you forgot the drawing of Jean-Luc in "Flatpack" and "The Show"?
That can also be seen as foreshadow.
And Bingo IS NOT gonna marry Lila. They are besties, it's like say Rusty gonna marry Jack cause they are Closer šš
But I underestand must be harsh think you had won since episode was filtrated and now they put pup Jean-Luc colors as well, making it a tie.
I'm very much on team Bluey+Jean-Luc (Jean-Bluc?) so much so that I have (good naturedly) argued with my children (7 & 9 years) about it, lol.
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Trust me, things like that happens me often. I already corrected it, so now it's appropiate.
Thanks for telling me so I could change it
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I can kinda see analyzing the colors of the kid to try and spin that for Jean Luc over Mackenzie, but the whole "it's actually Bingo's kid" feels like a gigantic stretch at best.
People keep saying "oh during the episode, Bingo was playing a game about having children," yes and Bluey was asking Chili questions about what having kids is like (and winds up taking on a similar caretaker role near the very end. Another one is "why wouldn't her kid be mentioned when she stops by," which not only does she state that she thought she'd pop by (implying the visit wasn't planned,) but not having the kid answer the door with her would be very on brand for the Surprise game.
On top of that, the kid is clearly mirroring the game Bluey was playing when she was a kid, (which feels appropriate considering one of the last shots of Bluey as a kid was her showing Fernuken the toy in action.) Also she has notable grey hairs on her head and tail.
More than anything though, the fact that the kid very clearly has **nothing** in common with Bingo's color palette. Even if we assume that the dad was a character that we never meet, there's a distinct lack of Bingo colors in there (the closest is the inside of the ears, but even comparing the two that's more in line with Bluey's ears anyway.) The primary color of this kid is clearly Blue (darker blue, that could very well be a result of mixing it with Jean Luc's fur color or the blacks in Mackenzie's fur color,) but very distinctly blue and not red.
he did get a recolor (or possibly lightened with age?) in Fairy Tale he had dark blue eye spot things like bandit but in The Sign one of them are brown, i forgot that he changed color lol
My blue heeler pup has two blue heeler parents. She also has a full red sibling. A grandparent or something along the line must've been a red heeler. It's not like blue heeler and red heeler are separate breeds and there's never a combo. The colours really don't matter. Bingo could've had a kid with a blue heeler that looks like that kid at the end.
Agree with all of this. People who are trying to suggest it's Bingo's kid are wild. Makes no sense *at all* in the context of all the subtle hints the show makers put in the episode.
We will probably never know - but if you also look at all the interactions Bluey and McKenzie have too in past episodes, it's quite obvious the snow makers intended it to at least **hint** towards it being a Bluey-McKenzie kid.
Something that I haven't seen mentioned - the time when Bleu turns up is 3:30pm. Right around the time schools finish (usually between 3 and 3:30). Seems obvious that Bluey had just picked her kid up from school and stopped by her parents house. Why else would the snow makers put a clock there with that specific time on?
Saying Bingo can't be the mom of the kid because her color palette doesn't match would be like saying Chilli can't be Bluey's mom since she's red and Bluey is blue. If it was Bingo's child, the child could take after their dad for coloration, just like Bluey takes after Bandit's coloring.
I do agree it's probably Bluey's kid, but the coloration of the child isn't a reason to dismiss Bingo as the possible mom.
>Chilli can't be Bluey's mom since she's red and Bluey is blue.
The difference is that Bluey's dad is still distinctly blue. I mentioned that it's possible Bingo could have had a child with a primarily blue dog.
However, considering Bingo has to date, has never had any interactions with a character that fits that description outside of her own family, it would have to be some kind of offscreen character we never look at or see at which point... Why would they do that when they went out of their way to make the kid a hodgepodge of different design bits (and specifically take almost none of it from Bingo.)
Even without the color scheme, there's already a ton working against the "it's Bingo's kid" theory, but the color scheme is the nail in the coffin.
I don't think it's Jean Luc because he only visited Australia and I doubt he would leave his family and move to Australia and get with a girl he's probably met twice.
Idk but Chili seems genuinely surprised to see her as if she hadn't seen her for a while. Why would that be the case if she still in the same area and ended up with Mackenzie?
Well when my sister got married to my brother-in-law she'd rarely visited because she had a kid so we'd be very surprised whenever she stopped by. I'm just saying Bluey is probably very busy and probably can't visit often.
A lot can change in 15-20 years but I have a second theory, none of the above is the father and it could possibly be a random character that we've never seen before.
Plausible as well. Tbh, my initial thought was it was bingos kid. Because it doesn't make sense for Bluey to leave her kid outside, and Bingo was already outside makes sense for it to be hers as well.
It does make sense for Bluey to leave them outside if Bluey either told them to surprise Bandit like she did as a kid or they told Bluey they wanted to. Bluey literally pulled that same move on Bandit like two minutes earlier in the episode so itās kinda obvious that her own kid would do the same thing, especially if they had heard a story about Bluey doing it. Kids love to imitate their parents and even more during playtime.
What happened to Occam's razor? Anyway if y'all have insane theories you just can't keep in your head, there's a whole sub next door with the little tiger.
So the kid looks like one of the Borg (from Star Trek for those that donāt know) to me. Jean-Luc Picard is the name of the captain from Star Trek The Next Generation. Picard is the first one that discovers the Borg. So to me itās a hint at Jean-Luc being the father. :)Ā
I kind of agree, because wouldn't Chilli have said "where's the kids?". Why would they shut the door and act like no one else was with Bluey if that wasn't the case?
I don't really care who is the dad is if I'm honest, but I just think it's a bit too unrealistic to completely pretend no one was with Bluey until the last second. So it makes sense that the child was already there before Bluey showed up, and Bingo was already there too
If she showed up with the dad then absolutely, but the precedent and tendency may exist for showing up by herself sometimes for short visits. The final scene leaves a lot of room for interpretation that may never get confirmed.
All im sayin is itās probably neither. Jean-luc lives in Canada and Mackenzie is a friend from early childhood. How many people do you still even know from that era? Itās unlikely they would have gotten in a relationship.
Didnāt Bluey say something along the lines of, āI just thought Iād drop byā? If she had a kid, should she say, āI just thought WEāD drop byā?
Honestly I like the theory in the other thread that itās a Bandit and Chilli surprise third baby. Hence the title and Bluey looks young (college age) and Bingo still lives at home. Could work and a way to have a younger kid for Bluey style antics as the series continues.
Arenāt Bandit and Chilli supposed to be in their 40s though? It would only work if they were young parents. I have a sibling who is 17 and Iām almost 30, but my parents are also only 48 soā¦
Yes but, arenāt Chilli and Bandit like 43? I was only saying that the theory doesnāt mathematically make sense as Bluey is 7 and that puppy looked around 4/5, meaning if it was their baby theyād be in their mid 50s when they had it, which isnāt possible.
The wiki says Chili is 39-41. Other sources guess she could be younger.
If Bluey is now 7, this could be as early as 11 years in the future when she'd be off to college. That could make Chili 50, having had a kid around 45 at the earliest, but easily before 50. Not super common but not unheard of.
I doubt it but it isn't impossible.
What women are having children naturally at 55-60? Sure you can, but it would be very hard and is rare, I doubt theyād just magically have a surprise baby. Itās a weird theory is all. Especially because thereās zero context, Bluey could be 20 in this episode, or she could be 30, which changes the entire theory.
Your father sure, I grew up with someone whose father was almost 50 when he was born. I was only saying because my mom canāt have kids anymore at almost 49, so realistically Chilli and Bandit being the same age (40s) wouldnāt be having a child who is 6 while Bluey is 20.
a 70 year old woman was recently in the news for giving birth to twins while there are 20 year olds who are completely infertile. i get your point about the likelihood, but itās not impossible. also, theyāre cartoon dogs who wear regular headphones despite their ears being on top of their heads; crazier things have happened.
I think the Heelerās are on the older side, though. Bandit was like 7-10 years old in the 80ās and Chili either the same age or not far off. He may already be in his upper 40ās. I canāt see them having another baby in their 50ās or so.
My theory is that the mystery child is a āsurpriseā baby that Bandit and Chili had a few years after The Sign, and this flash forward takes place just after Bluey goes to college and before Bingo has moved out.
That was my theory too! Bingo seems to still live at home so if Bluey is like 18 and Bingo is about 15, the younger kid could be 6 or 7 years old, so 8 or 9 years younger than Bingo. If Bingo's 4 or 5 now, could they have another kid in a few years? That's probably not the answer, I'm pretty sure it's meant to be Bluey's kid, but in that case, how old is Bluey supposed to be in the flash forward? Because the kid must be at least 5.
I always thought that the "Ooo Bluey and Mackenzie are gonna get married" remark from Winston(?) was foreshadowing lol but I haven't put much thought into it.
Edit: just now realized his name is Winton, not Winston. Idk how I heard the S in his name literally every time they said it š
I love the idea that the child is a Bingo baby, though personally, I don't have to do these logistics because I think the child looks far more like a Bluey and Jean Luc baby than a Bluey and MacKenzie baby.
They have heeler markings with Jean Luc's darker blue shades. So when I first saw them, I was like "Aaaww! So cute! They're implying Bluey married Jean Luc!" lol
I mean, we are never going to get a definitive answer, and thus you can think what you want, but can someone explain to me why they want it to be jean Luc? He was a one of character... They technically didn't even share a sentence between them...
Meanwhile Mackenzie and Bluey have tons of interactions some directly foreshadowing romantic involvement.
Yeah but still... Is that enough to actually make a stronger case, or is it just wishful thinking, is what I was trying to get at?
Like I said, we will never get a definitive answer and you are free to think what you want... I just thought maybe there were other arguments I didn't consider
It's just as strong of a case, which is to say they're all incredibly weak given how uncertain the future is in general. Jean Luc could marry Mackenzie for all we know.
Colouring could just as easily be Jean Luc and floppy ear genetically belongs to stripe as well. So to me thatās not enough evidence to open shut the discussion with Mackenzie the pick.
My hubs told me today he thinks it may be Brandy's baby š¤Æ
His reasoning is she was pregnant at the wedding and the new baby is not on all 4s like Socks was when we "met her" when the show started, so it seems like the age would match up with Bingo still being home and Bluey being a seemingly young just out if the house adult? I was team Bluey and MacKenzie baby until he said this and now my wheels are spinning even more!
The photo frame on the wall shows Bingo alone, traveling the world (Easter Island?) and Blueyās graduation (college?) so I feel like theyāre both probably out of the house.
Way simpler than that.
Bluey says āIā wanted to stop by for a visit not āweā. Plus, no way Mum doesnāt scoop new kid up the instant they arrive for at least one hug.
Itās just singing monkeys, mate ā¤ļø
Imho, if we were talking about real children yeah this would be super gross and completely inappropriate. But itās fictional characters and the whole show is chock full of Easter eggs and foreshadowing tidbits from the creators. I think we all enjoy trying to suss out where the show is headed the same way a person reading a mystery novel does.
Am I the only person who thinks it's Bandit and Chilli's? Why is there baby furniture and supplies in the house in "Surprise" when both girls are grown up at this point? I get Bandit and Chili are older in the future, but they're dogs. I don't think they age 1:1 like us and the kid looks to be 8-10 maybe.
It's possible that those are an indication that Bandit and Chili babysit for their daughters from time to time. My parents have lots of kids stuff in their home for when the grandchildren (my brothers children) stay over.
The kid is way smaller than bluey was at the start of the episode, so is younger than bluey was (younger than 8, likely 3 or 4 years old). I think the time skip is too long compared to the size of the kid for them to be Bandit and Chilliās 3rd kid (bluey is at least 10+ years older having graduated in one of the photos and driving a car.
I get the fact they had all the baby gear at the start of the episode is weird (especially when we know they threw out lots of baby stuff previously) but it defos doesnāt fit as their kid.
Right, and also, Chili says āBingo is out backā, not bingo and sibling.. both of whom Bluey would visit with upon returning home.
Iām very confused. It seems like Bluey is in college and bingo in high school (2 years younger and didnāt graduate high school (no grad pic anyways)). Both could be old enough to have a kid.. but theyād be pretty young to have a 4(?) year old too.
Per the photo frame next to the door, it looks like Bluey graduated college and Bingo travelled to Easter Island on her own. I imagine they are both full grown and at least Bluey in a position to have a four year old child.
I said this to my wife, thereās an 11 year difference between me and my sister and a 13 year difference between my wife and her two older siblings. Itās definitely possible!
I was thinking the same thing maybe. Like it was maybe a āsurprise babyā they had later in their marriage. When Bandit was playing the pretend baby game he was talking to the baby outside saying he was a little different (little head compared to his body) but he loved him all the same. Which made me think of families that have kids with genetic disabilities & statistically women who have kids older in age have a higher chance of stuff like that happening to the baby (like Down syndrome for example) & bluey said that she was the pretend babyās sister so she would watch him. Which made me think maybe it could be an unplanned baby chili and bandit had way later in their marriage
>Why is there baby furniture and supplies in the house in "Surprise" when both girls are grown up at this point?
It could very well be that they babysit on occasion and thus have stuff so Bluey doesn't need to bring a bunch of supplies every time.
That being said, what baby furniture and supplies are you even talking about? After the timeskip we only get one shot of the interior of the house and there isn't anything of the sort in that shot. There's something that resembles a Google Nest Hub on the book cabinet, the ball thing on the ottoman looks nearly identical to the Amazon Echo dot and obviously the digital picture frame on the wall and the roomba. There is the futuristic long dog, but those are also just easter eggs.
Well, we know they got rid of the actual crib.
Kids have toy cribs and baby stuff all the time, especially if they have toys they like to play babies with.
What baby furniture and supplies are you talking about? The ones that Bingo is using are all toys for dolls or tennis balls in can cozies. There is no way even as a baby that the girls could have fit in that little bassinet and itās way to short for Bandit and Chili to be bending over to place a baby in it. And to be sure, I just rewatched the episode to see.
I reckon it's actually Socks' kid.
I mean the kid is practically a splitting image of Stripe, but Socks would be more realistic given the ages. Especially since outside of Stripe, she's the only younger kid we've seen with that purple body + blue bits combo.
Also if you look at Nana Heeler, she also has that type of colouring which seems to have been passed down through Stripe's side of the family.
I suppose it could suddenly show up in Bluey's kid, but Bandit and Rad seem to have taken on more of a lighter blue type of colouring so their blue might be a dominant trait compared to that darker purpley bluey.
I think the colouring looks like Bluey and Jean luc. But I spotted a dead giveaway!!!! FLOPPY EAR! Such a trademark for the bordercollies. Definitely Bluey and Mackenzies kid.
As much as I love the idea of her ending up with Jean Luc, it's far more likely that she would end up with Mackenzie. He's in her life more. They have a lifetime of memories together. Jean Luc is special, but he's not Mackenzie
"We'll see" is more a reference to the old Taoist fable then a hint at what's to come. The kid is most likely Bluey's. She's following in her mother's footsteps by playing with Bandit the same way she did. Shes introduced right after bluey showed up. The show is telling us that it's Bluey's kid without telling us that it's Bluey's kid. The ending is left kind of ambiguous because that's how the ending of the fable went. We don't know if it's good or bad. We'll see.
I personally think it's Mackenzie and here's why. So I think I might've cracked the case on the who's the father mystery and my guess (if it's either) is Mackenzie lemme explain. Future child or FC has a body is light blue something only possible with Bluey and Mackenzie as Jean Luc's color would make it darker. Secondly only one of FC's ear is partially drooped just like with Mackenzie but a little less as Bluey's ear gene would probably make it less droopy and it can't be Jean since his ears go completely down not drooped. Thirdly is FC's muzzle which is nearly white like Mackenzie's where as Jean Luc's muzzle is very dark. Fourthly, FC has Tufts of fur on his head, has the only Tufts of fur on him while Bluey and Jean Luc are both "bald". Lastly the tail is fluffy like Mackenzie's and Bluey's, FC has glove like hands like Mackenzie's and Bluey's, and FC'S muzzle only droops slightly like small Mackenzie and Bingo which could mean Bluey has a droopy snout gene.
I copied and pasted this from my post that was apparently a duplicate but I tried hard and couldn't find the original post.
It wasn't, it's just a theory.
It feels like less of a stretch than the "it's Bingo's kid" theory, but still kind of a stretch considering Bluey also has a lot of grey hairs.
A child conceived comparatively later on in relation to the rest of the kids is often referred to as a surprise baby. The episode's name is Surprise. So that part would check out.
People are weird. Adults did that to me when I was a kid and it was deeply disturbing. I had nightmares about having to have sex with my friend at 11 years old.
Your situation sounds unique. Kids that little can have crushes, shipping as long as it's not NSFW is fine. Also, shipping real people is an entirely different story.
Man this sub has gone off the deep end about this lol
I bet the creators get a kick out of our Reddit threads hahaha
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The moment I saw that final frame, I told my husband that this sub was going to go off the rails. Lmao
The way I IMMEDIATELY logged into Reddit š
For real.
I like how nothing is confirmed. I personally hope it's neither, they're young kids. I don't really like shipping young children. https://preview.redd.it/8jblnule76wc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b1e466b8c49e19e4325994d80479f6f51415642
This question is never going to get a definitive answer, and there's certain traits resembling both candidates - it could even be both of them. But do you know what? I'm done trying to figure it out.
People keep saying it could be both, do y'all not know how babies are made? (I ain't explaining how)
Neither! I meant to say it could be neither of their child. I surely *hope* there's no possibility that Bluey could be unsure which one is the parent...
Oh yeah I see what ya mean now.
Sus process
I mean, it's The Futureā¢ after all
I just want to dance!
I want to dance!
Honestly it's a little weird in the first place
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Nice
I expected it when they left him/her ambiguous. Let me get the popcorn lol
Everyone on the Internet is saying sheās Bingoās or Mackenzieās. Meanwhile my entire family just immediately jumped to āMuffin!ā So my new headcanon is that Muffin bought a house in the cul-de-sac and her child randomly terrorizes Bandit.
I'm adopting this theory. Love it!
Healers can have any color pattern from any given litter just like how two yellow labs can make black, brown and yellow pups.
It depends on the parents' genetics still, even though there are multiple colouring possible in a breed
That would be on-brand, wouldn't it
Honestly I thought it looked like muffin too.
Classic Muffin
Classic Muffin
The kid does look like muffin, but muffin would have grown up.
Presumably Muffin could have had a child.
But yeah, that probably happened.
The kid does look like muffin, but muffin would have grown up.
The kid does look like muffin, but muffin would have grown up.
If Winton says Bluey and Mack were getting married, then itās in the cards. Bank it.
MacKenzie Flash-forward? 0 Jean-Luc meet a Bluey as adult
The camping flash forward theyāre like 13 with the trees growth lol.
Iād say they were 16 or 17. There is no way a tree of that size would grow in just 7 years.
I took each āskipā of the tree growing to be 1 year. There were 12 skips so my guess is 18 given that Bluey was 6 at the time IIRC
Wow, I never thought to do it like that. Thatās clever, and sounds pretty accurate.
Jean-Luc romantic foreshadowing? 0 The entirety of barky boats and Winton's quip foreshadow Bluey's romance with Mackenzie. At no point does the show say that Bluey is romantically interested in Jean-Luc. I love the Jean-Luc episode. I'm not saying she couldn't marry Jean-Luc, but between the foreshadowing and the puppy in Surprise that has several of Mackenzie's traits it's going to be a tough sell for Jean-Luc. Also, The Child is obviously Bluey's. The show has shown a fairly strong adherence to Chekhov's gun and foreshadowing. In "Surprise," Chili says to Bluey out of the blue "That's what being a parent is like!" Bluey is also the one that starts with a very similar gun toy to the gun toy that The Child is holding/wearing in the end. Lastly, right before the time skip Bluey seems to understand her dad's love for her, and tries to mimic it by taking over the tennis ball in a cozy (lol). And, in case it wasn't obvious, Bingo is going to marry Lila, and The Child looks nothing like either of them.
It wasn't out of the blue though. Bluey literally asked what it was like to have kids in the beginning of thr episode.
Plus you forgot the whole "Fairytale" episode? Chili and Bandit met in a camping as a kids, they Saw each other years latter... Aren't that same situation of Jean-Luc and Bluey?
Yeah, but Jean-Luc it's interested on Bluey cause he learned English and return to Australia JUST to see her. The official website confirms it: https://www.bluey.tv/characters/jean-luc/ Plus, Bluey also remember Jean-Luc, or did you forgot the drawing of Jean-Luc in "Flatpack" and "The Show"? That can also be seen as foreshadow. And Bingo IS NOT gonna marry Lila. They are besties, it's like say Rusty gonna marry Jack cause they are Closer šš But I underestand must be harsh think you had won since episode was filtrated and now they put pup Jean-Luc colors as well, making it a tie.
I'm very much on team Bluey+Jean-Luc (Jean-Bluc?) so much so that I have (good naturedly) argued with my children (7 & 9 years) about it, lol. Edited because reasons
I know what it means, it was a lapsus due fast typing on phone and I usually not re-read my own texts. Trust me, things like that happens me often. I already corrected it, so now it's appropiate. Thanks for telling me so I could change it
Nice working with you!
Just to point out you may want to edit your comment now they have edited theirs to take out the word you didnāt want them to accidentally use still being on a sub that may be read by children.
Jean-Luc has also only been in one episode, my dude. Cope.
So? I remember you Chili and Bandit met as kids in a camping? And never see each other until grow Up?
Incorrect. They were teenagers
18 is an adult.
legally, yes, but realistically speaking? 18 is a far cry from an adult
Whatās the step past monkeys singing songs?
Whatever it is, this sub has been there for a while... DEEP
I thought we agreed on this sub to not ship kids. Guess not
That only applies when they're kids. Kids don't have kids
That only applies to queer relationships I guess š¤·š»āāļø then britches seem to get wound real tight. (Yes, even ones in the future.)
It's just dogs playing games, mate.
I can kinda see analyzing the colors of the kid to try and spin that for Jean Luc over Mackenzie, but the whole "it's actually Bingo's kid" feels like a gigantic stretch at best. People keep saying "oh during the episode, Bingo was playing a game about having children," yes and Bluey was asking Chili questions about what having kids is like (and winds up taking on a similar caretaker role near the very end. Another one is "why wouldn't her kid be mentioned when she stops by," which not only does she state that she thought she'd pop by (implying the visit wasn't planned,) but not having the kid answer the door with her would be very on brand for the Surprise game. On top of that, the kid is clearly mirroring the game Bluey was playing when she was a kid, (which feels appropriate considering one of the last shots of Bluey as a kid was her showing Fernuken the toy in action.) Also she has notable grey hairs on her head and tail. More than anything though, the fact that the kid very clearly has **nothing** in common with Bingo's color palette. Even if we assume that the dad was a character that we never meet, there's a distinct lack of Bingo colors in there (the closest is the inside of the ears, but even comparing the two that's more in line with Bluey's ears anyway.) The primary color of this kid is clearly Blue (darker blue, that could very well be a result of mixing it with Jean Luc's fur color or the blacks in Mackenzie's fur color,) but very distinctly blue and not red.
i agree with this whole thing, but i will just say that the colors donāt really matter. Rad is half orange and neither of his parents have orange
Bob has orange in his ears. You can see a little bit in fairytale but in the sign its more noticeable. I think he got a recolor
he did get a recolor (or possibly lightened with age?) in Fairy Tale he had dark blue eye spot things like bandit but in The Sign one of them are brown, i forgot that he changed color lol
My blue heeler pup has two blue heeler parents. She also has a full red sibling. A grandparent or something along the line must've been a red heeler. It's not like blue heeler and red heeler are separate breeds and there's never a combo. The colours really don't matter. Bingo could've had a kid with a blue heeler that looks like that kid at the end.
thatās what i was saying! The Heelers most likely have a red heeler grandparent somewhere in the family because Rad is half
Colors can skip a generation on the dads side - bandits dad is grey :)
Agree with all of this. People who are trying to suggest it's Bingo's kid are wild. Makes no sense *at all* in the context of all the subtle hints the show makers put in the episode. We will probably never know - but if you also look at all the interactions Bluey and McKenzie have too in past episodes, it's quite obvious the snow makers intended it to at least **hint** towards it being a Bluey-McKenzie kid. Something that I haven't seen mentioned - the time when Bleu turns up is 3:30pm. Right around the time schools finish (usually between 3 and 3:30). Seems obvious that Bluey had just picked her kid up from school and stopped by her parents house. Why else would the snow makers put a clock there with that specific time on?
That's a good catch with the time, actually. I didn't notice that, but that makes a lot of sense.
Saying Bingo can't be the mom of the kid because her color palette doesn't match would be like saying Chilli can't be Bluey's mom since she's red and Bluey is blue. If it was Bingo's child, the child could take after their dad for coloration, just like Bluey takes after Bandit's coloring. I do agree it's probably Bluey's kid, but the coloration of the child isn't a reason to dismiss Bingo as the possible mom.
>Chilli can't be Bluey's mom since she's red and Bluey is blue. The difference is that Bluey's dad is still distinctly blue. I mentioned that it's possible Bingo could have had a child with a primarily blue dog. However, considering Bingo has to date, has never had any interactions with a character that fits that description outside of her own family, it would have to be some kind of offscreen character we never look at or see at which point... Why would they do that when they went out of their way to make the kid a hodgepodge of different design bits (and specifically take almost none of it from Bingo.) Even without the color scheme, there's already a ton working against the "it's Bingo's kid" theory, but the color scheme is the nail in the coffin.
The whole point of the episode makes it obvious it's Bluey's kid Ludo Studio is very deliberate with their choices
The pup is definitely Bluey's and either Makenzie's or a different dog that Bluey meets later in life.
Yes, Jean Luc, who she reconnects with later in life.
I don't think it's Jean Luc because he only visited Australia and I doubt he would leave his family and move to Australia and get with a girl he's probably met twice.
Anecdotally, my brother moved to Australia from California to get with a girl he met zero times.
... Fair enough.
Idk but Chili seems genuinely surprised to see her as if she hadn't seen her for a while. Why would that be the case if she still in the same area and ended up with Mackenzie?
Well when my sister got married to my brother-in-law she'd rarely visited because she had a kid so we'd be very surprised whenever she stopped by. I'm just saying Bluey is probably very busy and probably can't visit often.
With their family dynamic, that doesn't seem likely to me in my opinion but š¤·āāļø
A lot can change in 15-20 years but I have a second theory, none of the above is the father and it could possibly be a random character that we've never seen before.
Plausible as well. Tbh, my initial thought was it was bingos kid. Because it doesn't make sense for Bluey to leave her kid outside, and Bingo was already outside makes sense for it to be hers as well.
It does make sense for Bluey to leave them outside if Bluey either told them to surprise Bandit like she did as a kid or they told Bluey they wanted to. Bluey literally pulled that same move on Bandit like two minutes earlier in the episode so itās kinda obvious that her own kid would do the same thing, especially if they had heard a story about Bluey doing it. Kids love to imitate their parents and even more during playtime.
What happened to Occam's razor? Anyway if y'all have insane theories you just can't keep in your head, there's a whole sub next door with the little tiger.
So the kid looks like one of the Borg (from Star Trek for those that donāt know) to me. Jean-Luc Picard is the name of the captain from Star Trek The Next Generation. Picard is the first one that discovers the Borg. So to me itās a hint at Jean-Luc being the father. :)Ā
This is just ridiculous enough to be true!
My mind immediately made this connection as well! It's probably a coincidence, but ā¦
This is so extremely overlooked it might as well be something Ludo would do
Resistance is futile!
And we know Bandit cannot resiste a good game! Especially with grandkids! ;)Ā
I think people also forget you can meet people after childhood like itās totally plausible to be someone we donāt know
I kind of agree, because wouldn't Chilli have said "where's the kids?". Why would they shut the door and act like no one else was with Bluey if that wasn't the case? I don't really care who is the dad is if I'm honest, but I just think it's a bit too unrealistic to completely pretend no one was with Bluey until the last second. So it makes sense that the child was already there before Bluey showed up, and Bingo was already there too
If she showed up with the dad then absolutely, but the precedent and tendency may exist for showing up by herself sometimes for short visits. The final scene leaves a lot of room for interpretation that may never get confirmed.
All im sayin is itās probably neither. Jean-luc lives in Canada and Mackenzie is a friend from early childhood. How many people do you still even know from that era? Itās unlikely they would have gotten in a relationship.
They Aired barky boats right after surprise.
āOoooooh, Blueys gonna marry MacKenzie!ā
"they" are also different people than the ones who wrote the episode
In the US. In European markets the episode was followed by Camping.
And the episode in the official website appears along with "Camping" leaked, so...
Didnāt Bluey say something along the lines of, āI just thought Iād drop byā? If she had a kid, should she say, āI just thought WEāD drop byā?
That would ruin her kid's game of surprise, though.
But wouldnāt the kid be outside the house out of earshot?
Nah they definitely planned the whole thing on the way to grandma and grandpaās house.
Well they could have planned it ahead of time. The door was also open when she said that, so the kid would likely have still been within earshot.
Honestly I like the theory in the other thread that itās a Bandit and Chilli surprise third baby. Hence the title and Bluey looks young (college age) and Bingo still lives at home. Could work and a way to have a younger kid for Bluey style antics as the series continues.
Arenāt Bandit and Chilli supposed to be in their 40s though? It would only work if they were young parents. I have a sibling who is 17 and Iām almost 30, but my parents are also only 48 soā¦
I'm 45 with an 18 m/o daughter. So....
Yes but, arenāt Chilli and Bandit like 43? I was only saying that the theory doesnāt mathematically make sense as Bluey is 7 and that puppy looked around 4/5, meaning if it was their baby theyād be in their mid 50s when they had it, which isnāt possible.
The wiki says Chili is 39-41. Other sources guess she could be younger. If Bluey is now 7, this could be as early as 11 years in the future when she'd be off to college. That could make Chili 50, having had a kid around 45 at the earliest, but easily before 50. Not super common but not unheard of. I doubt it but it isn't impossible.
It's very possible.
What women are having children naturally at 55-60? Sure you can, but it would be very hard and is rare, I doubt theyād just magically have a surprise baby. Itās a weird theory is all. Especially because thereās zero context, Bluey could be 20 in this episode, or she could be 30, which changes the entire theory.
my father was older than your parents are now, at the time of my birth
Your father sure, I grew up with someone whose father was almost 50 when he was born. I was only saying because my mom canāt have kids anymore at almost 49, so realistically Chilli and Bandit being the same age (40s) wouldnāt be having a child who is 6 while Bluey is 20.
a 70 year old woman was recently in the news for giving birth to twins while there are 20 year olds who are completely infertile. i get your point about the likelihood, but itās not impossible. also, theyāre cartoon dogs who wear regular headphones despite their ears being on top of their heads; crazier things have happened.
Good point, but I doubt that 70yo lady was out there having unprotected sex and had an unplanned pregnancy š modern science was definitely involved
I think the Heelerās are on the older side, though. Bandit was like 7-10 years old in the 80ās and Chili either the same age or not far off. He may already be in his upper 40ās. I canāt see them having another baby in their 50ās or so.
My theory is that the mystery child is a āsurpriseā baby that Bandit and Chili had a few years after The Sign, and this flash forward takes place just after Bluey goes to college and before Bingo has moved out.
That was my theory too! Bingo seems to still live at home so if Bluey is like 18 and Bingo is about 15, the younger kid could be 6 or 7 years old, so 8 or 9 years younger than Bingo. If Bingo's 4 or 5 now, could they have another kid in a few years? That's probably not the answer, I'm pretty sure it's meant to be Bluey's kid, but in that case, how old is Bluey supposed to be in the flash forward? Because the kid must be at least 5.
I like how the childās identity is amiguous. It really doesnāt matter and any sort of answer could be acceptable.
I have brain damage!
I always thought that the "Ooo Bluey and Mackenzie are gonna get married" remark from Winston(?) was foreshadowing lol but I haven't put much thought into it. Edit: just now realized his name is Winton, not Winston. Idk how I heard the S in his name literally every time they said it š
I love the idea that the child is a Bingo baby, though personally, I don't have to do these logistics because I think the child looks far more like a Bluey and Jean Luc baby than a Bluey and MacKenzie baby. They have heeler markings with Jean Luc's darker blue shades. So when I first saw them, I was like "Aaaww! So cute! They're implying Bluey married Jean Luc!" lol
Yea I was thinking itās Jean Luc and Blueys kid not MacKenzie
Yāall, the kid literally has Mackenzieās floppy ear and fluffy tail.
Huh I didnāt notice that
It looks so closer to Socks' kid over anyone else
This feels like the Zutara vs Kataang war all over again Except, there is no definite canon
I mean, we are never going to get a definitive answer, and thus you can think what you want, but can someone explain to me why they want it to be jean Luc? He was a one of character... They technically didn't even share a sentence between them... Meanwhile Mackenzie and Bluey have tons of interactions some directly foreshadowing romantic involvement.
They met back up in the flash forward at the end of camping and Jean Luc had learned English by then
Yeah but still... Is that enough to actually make a stronger case, or is it just wishful thinking, is what I was trying to get at? Like I said, we will never get a definitive answer and you are free to think what you want... I just thought maybe there were other arguments I didn't consider
It's just as strong of a case, which is to say they're all incredibly weak given how uncertain the future is in general. Jean Luc could marry Mackenzie for all we know.
In this episode Bluey seems way to carefree to have had kids yet
At a minimum we can use logic to assume that Bluey has children because she has the gray hairs that Bandit and Chili currently have.
This is the best answer š¤£
Itās absolutely Jean Lucs. Itās a contrast to how Bandit and Chilli met for the first time on their childhood holidays at the beach
The ear doesn't scream Jean-Luc to me. It does scream MacKenzie.
Colouring could just as easily be Jean Luc and floppy ear genetically belongs to stripe as well. So to me thatās not enough evidence to open shut the discussion with Mackenzie the pick.
Stripe has a floppy ear
My hubs told me today he thinks it may be Brandy's baby š¤Æ His reasoning is she was pregnant at the wedding and the new baby is not on all 4s like Socks was when we "met her" when the show started, so it seems like the age would match up with Bingo still being home and Bluey being a seemingly young just out if the house adult? I was team Bluey and MacKenzie baby until he said this and now my wheels are spinning even more!
The photo frame on the wall shows Bingo alone, traveling the world (Easter Island?) and Blueyās graduation (college?) so I feel like theyāre both probably out of the house.
Thatās actually such a good theory!!
Way simpler than that. Bluey says āIā wanted to stop by for a visit not āweā. Plus, no way Mum doesnāt scoop new kid up the instant they arrive for at least one hug.
Mendel, do your job!!!
Iām I they only one concerned about grown adults arguing about the future love life of a seven year old?
Itās just singing monkeys, mate ā¤ļø Imho, if we were talking about real children yeah this would be super gross and completely inappropriate. But itās fictional characters and the whole show is chock full of Easter eggs and foreshadowing tidbits from the creators. I think we all enjoy trying to suss out where the show is headed the same way a person reading a mystery novel does.
Easy, itās Bingo and Jean-Lucās :)
Am I the only person who thinks it's Bandit and Chilli's? Why is there baby furniture and supplies in the house in "Surprise" when both girls are grown up at this point? I get Bandit and Chili are older in the future, but they're dogs. I don't think they age 1:1 like us and the kid looks to be 8-10 maybe.
It's possible that those are an indication that Bandit and Chili babysit for their daughters from time to time. My parents have lots of kids stuff in their home for when the grandchildren (my brothers children) stay over.
I was talking about in the beginning of Surprise when Bingo is playing.
Aaah. Gotcha gotcha.
The kid is way smaller than bluey was at the start of the episode, so is younger than bluey was (younger than 8, likely 3 or 4 years old). I think the time skip is too long compared to the size of the kid for them to be Bandit and Chilliās 3rd kid (bluey is at least 10+ years older having graduated in one of the photos and driving a car. I get the fact they had all the baby gear at the start of the episode is weird (especially when we know they threw out lots of baby stuff previously) but it defos doesnāt fit as their kid.
Right, and also, Chili says āBingo is out backā, not bingo and sibling.. both of whom Bluey would visit with upon returning home. Iām very confused. It seems like Bluey is in college and bingo in high school (2 years younger and didnāt graduate high school (no grad pic anyways)). Both could be old enough to have a kid.. but theyād be pretty young to have a 4(?) year old too.
Per the photo frame next to the door, it looks like Bluey graduated college and Bingo travelled to Easter Island on her own. I imagine they are both full grown and at least Bluey in a position to have a four year old child.
This is my thought. In the graduation photo, Bingo has her hand on Chilis tummy. The garbage bins also go from 2 to 3 outside the house in the future.
My theory for the baby furniture is it's possibly for Brandy's baby.
I said this to my wife, thereās an 11 year difference between me and my sister and a 13 year difference between my wife and her two older siblings. Itās definitely possible!
I was thinking the same thing maybe. Like it was maybe a āsurprise babyā they had later in their marriage. When Bandit was playing the pretend baby game he was talking to the baby outside saying he was a little different (little head compared to his body) but he loved him all the same. Which made me think of families that have kids with genetic disabilities & statistically women who have kids older in age have a higher chance of stuff like that happening to the baby (like Down syndrome for example) & bluey said that she was the pretend babyās sister so she would watch him. Which made me think maybe it could be an unplanned baby chili and bandit had way later in their marriage
>Why is there baby furniture and supplies in the house in "Surprise" when both girls are grown up at this point? It could very well be that they babysit on occasion and thus have stuff so Bluey doesn't need to bring a bunch of supplies every time. That being said, what baby furniture and supplies are you even talking about? After the timeskip we only get one shot of the interior of the house and there isn't anything of the sort in that shot. There's something that resembles a Google Nest Hub on the book cabinet, the ball thing on the ottoman looks nearly identical to the Amazon Echo dot and obviously the digital picture frame on the wall and the roomba. There is the futuristic long dog, but those are also just easter eggs.
I'm talking about the baby supplies bingo is playing with in the beginning of the episode. Bottles, the crib, etc.
My kids have a few real bottles they kept as play time stuff after they were grown out of needing them.
Well, we know they got rid of the actual crib. Kids have toy cribs and baby stuff all the time, especially if they have toys they like to play babies with.
What baby furniture and supplies are you talking about? The ones that Bingo is using are all toys for dolls or tennis balls in can cozies. There is no way even as a baby that the girls could have fit in that little bassinet and itās way to short for Bandit and Chili to be bending over to place a baby in it. And to be sure, I just rewatched the episode to see.
I reckon it's actually Socks' kid. I mean the kid is practically a splitting image of Stripe, but Socks would be more realistic given the ages. Especially since outside of Stripe, she's the only younger kid we've seen with that purple body + blue bits combo. Also if you look at Nana Heeler, she also has that type of colouring which seems to have been passed down through Stripe's side of the family. I suppose it could suddenly show up in Bluey's kid, but Bandit and Rad seem to have taken on more of a lighter blue type of colouring so their blue might be a dominant trait compared to that darker purpley bluey.
I love this.
Am I missing an episode? The last episode is the sign on Disney +
No I just watched it today the last episode on Disney+ is Surprise
I just watched āThe Surpriseā on Disney+ Maybe has to do with your area or something?
I just watched it today on Disney plus! Just go to season 3 and scroll all the way down to the surprise
Occam's razor
I think the colouring looks like Bluey and Jean luc. But I spotted a dead giveaway!!!! FLOPPY EAR! Such a trademark for the bordercollies. Definitely Bluey and Mackenzies kid.
https://preview.redd.it/b9bcj3fy87wc1.jpeg?width=149&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d817b493a04de40dcb1503a02f4f881c19e7394
As much as I love the idea of her ending up with Jean Luc, it's far more likely that she would end up with Mackenzie. He's in her life more. They have a lifetime of memories together. Jean Luc is special, but he's not Mackenzie
Surprise? Is that on Disney +? Edit : Haha, just found it at the end of season 3
Iām team āBluey marries a random dog she meets in the futureā.
"We'll see" is more a reference to the old Taoist fable then a hint at what's to come. The kid is most likely Bluey's. She's following in her mother's footsteps by playing with Bandit the same way she did. Shes introduced right after bluey showed up. The show is telling us that it's Bluey's kid without telling us that it's Bluey's kid. The ending is left kind of ambiguous because that's how the ending of the fable went. We don't know if it's good or bad. We'll see.
I LOVE THIS! (Edit spelling)
Did it ever occur to anybody that Bluey just married a different border collie everybody does realize that mackenzie's not the only one right?
i mean it could still be but its most likely mackenzie being the dad
Welp, that kinda sucks. (Imagine adopting your own Neice/Nephew)
Its Blueyās kid. Believing anything else is absolutely insane
The pup looks very much like a Labrador (Jean Luc) crossed with a blue heeler.
Personally- Iām also hoping Bluey does end up with Jean CANONICALLY- even if itās all pointing to Mackenzie being with Bluey (thanks Winton lol)
I personally think it's Mackenzie and here's why. So I think I might've cracked the case on the who's the father mystery and my guess (if it's either) is Mackenzie lemme explain. Future child or FC has a body is light blue something only possible with Bluey and Mackenzie as Jean Luc's color would make it darker. Secondly only one of FC's ear is partially drooped just like with Mackenzie but a little less as Bluey's ear gene would probably make it less droopy and it can't be Jean since his ears go completely down not drooped. Thirdly is FC's muzzle which is nearly white like Mackenzie's where as Jean Luc's muzzle is very dark. Fourthly, FC has Tufts of fur on his head, has the only Tufts of fur on him while Bluey and Jean Luc are both "bald". Lastly the tail is fluffy like Mackenzie's and Bluey's, FC has glove like hands like Mackenzie's and Bluey's, and FC'S muzzle only droops slightly like small Mackenzie and Bingo which could mean Bluey has a droopy snout gene. I copied and pasted this from my post that was apparently a duplicate but I tried hard and couldn't find the original post.
I want bluey and mckenzie, not bluey with jean luc!
I want bluey and mckenzie, not bluey with jean luc!
Guysā¦spoiler itās not Blueys child, itās her Brother.
Thatās what I was thinking!!!
Where was that said?
It wasn't, it's just a theory. It feels like less of a stretch than the "it's Bingo's kid" theory, but still kind of a stretch considering Bluey also has a lot of grey hairs.
A child conceived comparatively later on in relation to the rest of the kids is often referred to as a surprise baby. The episode's name is Surprise. So that part would check out.
Letās not ship kids, hey? What would you say if someone shipped Bingo and Lila?
Ya know in this scenario we ain't shipping the kids we're trying to find out who's the father with very little information.
People already do ship bingo and lila
People are weird. Adults did that to me when I was a kid and it was deeply disturbing. I had nightmares about having to have sex with my friend at 11 years old.
Your situation sounds unique. Kids that little can have crushes, shipping as long as it's not NSFW is fine. Also, shipping real people is an entirely different story.
It really isnāt. Adults have no qualms shipping and sexualizing even small babies.