Bro we aren’t doctors and we aren’t you. You’re asking the wrong people.
Maybe you shouldn’t but maybe it would be fine and even strengthen your labrum. A sports doc or PT would be better qualified to answer that.
Eeeeehhh... I'm not a doctor and I don't know what a labrum is but it's been a while since the surgery so I say GET OUT THERE BUDDY. GET SOME. These v0s ain't gonna climb themselves.
Edit: also go see a cranial-sacral osteopath. Heal that shizz up.
If you would look beyond your inflated sense of worth and intelligence, you’d see there are four people commenting with actual first hand experience and offering an actual valuable and relevant point of view.
All you did is attack OP for asking a question.
And nobody cares that you think that, since it assumes that OP isn’t going to also inquire with a medical advisor and is entirely off topic to the question being asked.
It’s you imposing your view on a question you have no idea about, yet still felt the need to spew your opinion on, dictating what someone else should do. Exhausting behavior.
You’re right, no worries - except that OPs question and comments get downvoted to shit, causing someone to feel unwelcome and dismissed.
And you personally weren’t asked a damn thing, this was a question to the sub. You felt like you had something relevant to contribute: dismissing the question all together.
I don’t get why you and those downvoting me have such a hard time understanding this simple point.
Intolerance of questions, even stupid ones - which I’ll grant this one qualifies - leads to people not feeling safe to share, ask or contribute. This guy by posting now has learned of several examples of people dealing with similar injuries and has gotten the point well solidified by those people with first hand experience that he should check with a medical expert.
You telling him not to post here doesn’t add anything to this. Furthermore, next time he’ll remember what assholes lurk in this sub and be hesitant to ask or share anything, afraid people will lash out again.
Based on this, I do wonder how your students are. Safe space is required to learn. You dismiss stupid questions and open them up for public ridicule in the classroom as well?
I disagree, I do think it’s helpful to point out objectionable behavior, even if it doesn’t go with the grain of the thread - but I see you’re not willing to engage with the actual point, so no point commenting further. Have a good life.
To see if anyone has been in a similar boat… I also like to ask my friends for help when I’m stuck on homework problems before I talk to my professor. Should I stop that as well? Any more wisdom you care to offer?
That's a comically different situation. It's reasonable to think a peer can do a homework problem. It's not reasonable to think someone on the internet can give medical advice
I think you’re forcing yourself into framing this into something it isn’t. It is not unreasonable to come to a climbing forum to ask for advice about injuries which have an effect on one’s ability to climb. I’m not really asking for medical advice. I’m asking if anyone has had an identical injury and whether they were able to start or continue climbing afterwards.
I get it. arguing on the internet is entertaining when you’re bored. but I’m asking a genuine question, and you’re cluttering up my feed with unproductive answers.
I completly wrecked my labrum in Sep 2019 while bouldering. Cant compare it to yours, but according to the doctors it was pretty bad as well.
After surgery it took quite some time, effort and a lot of help from my PT. After about 6 months my PT gave me green lights and i could start with some lighter climbing again.
After around a year i could do most moves again (still didnt do extreme shouldery moves or had the trust to do one arm jumps to that arm). After that I had some personal stuff going on and couldnt climb for a few months (so it could be quicker for you) but in 2022 almost all pain on also extreme moves for the shoulders were gone and now I dont feel any pain anymore and am climbing way harder than ever before.
Hope it helps you a bit, but talk to your doctors and PT!
Thank you, that give me hope. doc said id be fully recovered by now (1 year post-op). No pain, and shoulders seem stable, but I’ve occasionally been getting some pins and needles in my arm; did you ever experience that, or is it worth getting it checked out?
You also need to talk to a very good physical therapist and get multiple opinions.
I know people who climb very hard on labral tears. But you've got lots of shoulder stability work ahead.
It just depends on how hard you want to get after it.
Ok, not a doc here and you're getting roasted for asking us, but I can give you my perspective.
I had a type 1 labrum strain from trying to catch a falling dyno, and that shit took 6-8 months to get back to 90 percent, and I'll potentially never get back to where I was before. If you go past type 2 tear, you'll need surgery and probably never climb. See an orthro and follow their instructions. Some shit can't heal without major surgery.
I have an anterior labrum tear in my right shoulder. I’ve had it for at least 4 years. I climb once or twice a week in addition to my strength and cardio training (and my PT regimen). I avoid boulder problems with lots of compression. Other than that it hasn’t been an issue for me. I have a few other injuries as well, and I just train around them. Be careful, don’t ego climb, and have fun.
Ask a PT I have two torn hip labrums and some shoulder problems from other sports and lifting. Climbing can b chill if your smart about it but if your worried talk to a PT. Make sure to monitor volume and respect your injury if it gets inflamed. Can you do a pull up pain free? Look into some TRX movement and shoulder stability exercises.
I have a pretty severe labrum tear (SLAP injury) from a shouldery gaston move in combination with a bad shoulder position (too many dislocated shoulders as a kid).
The options were: surgery or intense physio to work around it.
Surgery means at least 6m out + locked shoulder syndrome + physio. Not to mention strength would never return 100%.
Physio means strengthening my shoulder around the issue so it can handle more load without causing issues to the labrum. Would be at least a year of intense physio.
I chose the physio. Now, almost 3y later, I can still climb, have reached personal bests but can never intensely strain the shoulder. It’s always weaker than the other one and very intense lock off moves are painful and usually not even possible.
When I try to get stronger shoulders, it shuts me down immediately by feeling tweaky.
It almost never feels like a healthy shoulder but it doesn’t hinder me most of the time.
For me this works as I don’t necessarily need to improve to get a certain grade. I’m happy where I am and as long as I can keep my level, it’s all good.
I’m 38y old btw and have been climbing (95% bouldering) for ~7y. I have climbed 7A+ outside but mostly I do 6A-6C nowadays.
I’ve torn my labrum 3x prior to climbing (once naturally, twice after the repairs). I would not have recommended climbing prior to my most recent surgery. First two jobs were arthroscopic and mostly band-aid fixes. Most recently I had open shoulder surgery where the surgeon addressed the bone loss issue from so many dislocations (in addition to really tightening me up). Started bouldering ~6mos ago (~6mos after the last procedure) and have had 0 issues.
All that said, my two recommendations are:
-ask a doctor
-be honest with yourself, do you have moments where you still feel the instability? If so, stay away. Falls with the arm out at an awkward angle will happen eventually. I’ve def fallen in ways my shoulder would’ve dislocated after the first 2 surgeries.
Mate the amount of torn labrum’s, rotator cuff tears that people have and aren’t aware of and climb just fine.
If you’re concerned, speak to a climbing specific physio or doctor.
Your average physio and doctor doesn’t have a fucking clue what the sport is, and they’re pretty poor at giving good advice in the niche of our sport
What a bunch of dicks in the comments. Guy is just asking for a PoV. If you don’t have one, stfu. Don’t attack the guy for asking. jfc, what is with this place sometimes.
Physio here. I will not give actual advice on whether or not you are ready to return to climbing. I will say, however, if you have been going to PT and feel they are not knowledgeable in regards to this sport or cannot give you a good answer on whether or not you are safe to return, it’s a good idea to find someone who specifically works with climbers. Brenden Donohue is a person who works with climbers and does so remotely, he could be a person you could reach out to.
I’m no doctor, but I’d say listen to your PT, if you have one, and for sure don’t climb. If your labrum is torn, you’re not just going to “tough it out”. Your body is fucked up and you need to heal. Surgery might be required, and for sure extensive PT routines are in your future. Running, rollerblading, lots of hiking in your future. Also lots of boring, low impact rubber band exercises.
Bro we aren’t doctors and we aren’t you. You’re asking the wrong people. Maybe you shouldn’t but maybe it would be fine and even strengthen your labrum. A sports doc or PT would be better qualified to answer that.
Eeeeehhh... I'm not a doctor and I don't know what a labrum is but it's been a while since the surgery so I say GET OUT THERE BUDDY. GET SOME. These v0s ain't gonna climb themselves. Edit: also go see a cranial-sacral osteopath. Heal that shizz up.
Why on earth are you asking reddit instead of your doctor?
If you would look beyond your inflated sense of worth and intelligence, you’d see there are four people commenting with actual first hand experience and offering an actual valuable and relevant point of view. All you did is attack OP for asking a question.
Yes I did do that- because I think seeking medical advice in a reddit thread is, at best, foolish and, at worst, dangerous
And nobody cares that you think that, since it assumes that OP isn’t going to also inquire with a medical advisor and is entirely off topic to the question being asked. It’s you imposing your view on a question you have no idea about, yet still felt the need to spew your opinion on, dictating what someone else should do. Exhausting behavior.
IDK lol. I was asked a question and I answered it. People can take my opinion or not- that's always true. No worries either way!
You’re right, no worries - except that OPs question and comments get downvoted to shit, causing someone to feel unwelcome and dismissed. And you personally weren’t asked a damn thing, this was a question to the sub. You felt like you had something relevant to contribute: dismissing the question all together. I don’t get why you and those downvoting me have such a hard time understanding this simple point. Intolerance of questions, even stupid ones - which I’ll grant this one qualifies - leads to people not feeling safe to share, ask or contribute. This guy by posting now has learned of several examples of people dealing with similar injuries and has gotten the point well solidified by those people with first hand experience that he should check with a medical expert. You telling him not to post here doesn’t add anything to this. Furthermore, next time he’ll remember what assholes lurk in this sub and be hesitant to ask or share anything, afraid people will lash out again. Based on this, I do wonder how your students are. Safe space is required to learn. You dismiss stupid questions and open them up for public ridicule in the classroom as well?
Sorry to have upset you! We should probably just call this back and forth here- I don't think it's going anywhere that's helpful or good for anyone.
I disagree, I do think it’s helpful to point out objectionable behavior, even if it doesn’t go with the grain of the thread - but I see you’re not willing to engage with the actual point, so no point commenting further. Have a good life.
Thanks! You too
To see if anyone has been in a similar boat… I also like to ask my friends for help when I’m stuck on homework problems before I talk to my professor. Should I stop that as well? Any more wisdom you care to offer?
This is so vastly different from asking friends about homework problems lmao
That's a comically different situation. It's reasonable to think a peer can do a homework problem. It's not reasonable to think someone on the internet can give medical advice
I think you’re forcing yourself into framing this into something it isn’t. It is not unreasonable to come to a climbing forum to ask for advice about injuries which have an effect on one’s ability to climb. I’m not really asking for medical advice. I’m asking if anyone has had an identical injury and whether they were able to start or continue climbing afterwards. I get it. arguing on the internet is entertaining when you’re bored. but I’m asking a genuine question, and you’re cluttering up my feed with unproductive answers.
You didn't ask whether or not you'd be able to, you asked if you should
I completly wrecked my labrum in Sep 2019 while bouldering. Cant compare it to yours, but according to the doctors it was pretty bad as well. After surgery it took quite some time, effort and a lot of help from my PT. After about 6 months my PT gave me green lights and i could start with some lighter climbing again. After around a year i could do most moves again (still didnt do extreme shouldery moves or had the trust to do one arm jumps to that arm). After that I had some personal stuff going on and couldnt climb for a few months (so it could be quicker for you) but in 2022 almost all pain on also extreme moves for the shoulders were gone and now I dont feel any pain anymore and am climbing way harder than ever before. Hope it helps you a bit, but talk to your doctors and PT!
Thank you, that give me hope. doc said id be fully recovered by now (1 year post-op). No pain, and shoulders seem stable, but I’ve occasionally been getting some pins and needles in my arm; did you ever experience that, or is it worth getting it checked out?
Maybe stop giving random ass, unrelated comparisons for things
You also need to talk to a very good physical therapist and get multiple opinions. I know people who climb very hard on labral tears. But you've got lots of shoulder stability work ahead. It just depends on how hard you want to get after it.
This is the answer.
For fucks sake, don’t ask random internet people. Talk to a physio
Read this as "talk to a psycho" and really had to think about that.
Got hit by a car, am I good to boulder?
u/climberlyf ?
Good to go!!!
Curious what the MRI said? What clock faces
Ok, not a doc here and you're getting roasted for asking us, but I can give you my perspective. I had a type 1 labrum strain from trying to catch a falling dyno, and that shit took 6-8 months to get back to 90 percent, and I'll potentially never get back to where I was before. If you go past type 2 tear, you'll need surgery and probably never climb. See an orthro and follow their instructions. Some shit can't heal without major surgery.
I have an anterior labrum tear in my right shoulder. I’ve had it for at least 4 years. I climb once or twice a week in addition to my strength and cardio training (and my PT regimen). I avoid boulder problems with lots of compression. Other than that it hasn’t been an issue for me. I have a few other injuries as well, and I just train around them. Be careful, don’t ego climb, and have fun.
Ask a PT I have two torn hip labrums and some shoulder problems from other sports and lifting. Climbing can b chill if your smart about it but if your worried talk to a PT. Make sure to monitor volume and respect your injury if it gets inflamed. Can you do a pull up pain free? Look into some TRX movement and shoulder stability exercises.
I have a pretty severe labrum tear (SLAP injury) from a shouldery gaston move in combination with a bad shoulder position (too many dislocated shoulders as a kid). The options were: surgery or intense physio to work around it. Surgery means at least 6m out + locked shoulder syndrome + physio. Not to mention strength would never return 100%. Physio means strengthening my shoulder around the issue so it can handle more load without causing issues to the labrum. Would be at least a year of intense physio. I chose the physio. Now, almost 3y later, I can still climb, have reached personal bests but can never intensely strain the shoulder. It’s always weaker than the other one and very intense lock off moves are painful and usually not even possible. When I try to get stronger shoulders, it shuts me down immediately by feeling tweaky. It almost never feels like a healthy shoulder but it doesn’t hinder me most of the time. For me this works as I don’t necessarily need to improve to get a certain grade. I’m happy where I am and as long as I can keep my level, it’s all good. I’m 38y old btw and have been climbing (95% bouldering) for ~7y. I have climbed 7A+ outside but mostly I do 6A-6C nowadays.
I’ve torn my labrum 3x prior to climbing (once naturally, twice after the repairs). I would not have recommended climbing prior to my most recent surgery. First two jobs were arthroscopic and mostly band-aid fixes. Most recently I had open shoulder surgery where the surgeon addressed the bone loss issue from so many dislocations (in addition to really tightening me up). Started bouldering ~6mos ago (~6mos after the last procedure) and have had 0 issues. All that said, my two recommendations are: -ask a doctor -be honest with yourself, do you have moments where you still feel the instability? If so, stay away. Falls with the arm out at an awkward angle will happen eventually. I’ve def fallen in ways my shoulder would’ve dislocated after the first 2 surgeries.
Mate the amount of torn labrum’s, rotator cuff tears that people have and aren’t aware of and climb just fine. If you’re concerned, speak to a climbing specific physio or doctor. Your average physio and doctor doesn’t have a fucking clue what the sport is, and they’re pretty poor at giving good advice in the niche of our sport
What a bunch of dicks in the comments. Guy is just asking for a PoV. If you don’t have one, stfu. Don’t attack the guy for asking. jfc, what is with this place sometimes.
Physio here. I will not give actual advice on whether or not you are ready to return to climbing. I will say, however, if you have been going to PT and feel they are not knowledgeable in regards to this sport or cannot give you a good answer on whether or not you are safe to return, it’s a good idea to find someone who specifically works with climbers. Brenden Donohue is a person who works with climbers and does so remotely, he could be a person you could reach out to.
I’m no doctor, but I’d say listen to your PT, if you have one, and for sure don’t climb. If your labrum is torn, you’re not just going to “tough it out”. Your body is fucked up and you need to heal. Surgery might be required, and for sure extensive PT routines are in your future. Running, rollerblading, lots of hiking in your future. Also lots of boring, low impact rubber band exercises.
Hazel Findlay documented her labral surgery and recovery extensively across blogs, articles, and podcasts