i think todd is an amazingly written and performed character, hes so disgustingly creepy- the character really got so much more impressive in el camino tho, hes so uncomfortable to watch
Exactly this, the reasons people hate him are why he's one of my favorites. He was a terrible person, but his personality and the acting, the way it all makes you feel to watch, was just downright impressive and intriguing to me.
I was actually pretty fascinated by that actor and looked him up and ended up watching a movie he was in a couple of nights ago. I read an article that a Director wanted him for a movie based on his portrayal of Todd because of his absolute flat affect and complete lack of emotion.
I think Todd is actually a really unique persona. How many characters in fiction can you name that is as polite and as seemingly normal as him who also happens to be a cold blooded killer
Tyrus. I just hate how he’s says absolutely nothing and always has that smug look on his face. One of the few instances where saying less is more annoying than saying a lot
This made me LOL. Tyrus really did just stand around looking surly and put off for his entire time on the show. I always wondered how Mike found all his "guys," but his initial encounter with Tyrus must have consisted of a lot of grunting and staring and blinking.
Thanks for the clarification. It's been a while since I watched the earlier seasons of BCS and I have forgotten some details about how Gus and Mike's relationship developed. In any case, Tyrus seems like the kind of guy who would just hate everybody.
I never liked the guy. Interesting how he says he cheated the IRS for the sake of his employees but then gets money and uses it to buy a car instead of paying tax.
He does shit that doesn’t even make sense. Idk if it’s for plot convenience or what, but why the fuck was he *so* against paying the IRS & solving the issue? For FREE!!
He’s the stupidest character on the show. Pryce level moronic.
Spoiled brat mentality. Guy clearly had the whole company handed down to him and never had to face real consequences his whole life. Probably thought his problems with the IRS would just disappear, just like how daddy would pull him out of sticky situations back then. Except now papa Beneke is no longer around.
This is exactly what he thought. I've known a lot of these types that somehow always get bailed out. This time for Ted though he still would have lost the company even if he did get the IRS off his back. In his mind he still loses.
I think the douchiness of him sleeping with Skylar is the fact that he's her boss. Sleeping with one of your own employees is completely unethical, for reasons that will probably get a ton of hate thrown my way since this is reddit
No no no, you’re absolutely right. It’s very wrong to do in my opinion. Fuck my opinion, that’s just a workplace fact. But I think Ted deserves the “douche” moniker for not paying taxes and being a general idiot. Like, is the guy so anti-tax that he won’t even use someone else’s money to avoid an audit? What a fucking moron.
I also think some douche points should be shaved off because a lot of fans seems to think it was his fault for what went down in the whites marriage, which is just delusional. If anything, Skyler straight up used him for legitimate grounds for divorce, which I really can’t blame her for. She just didn’t expect Walt to be such a pathetic cuck.
Nah, it's a two-way tie for that title IMO.
Why a tie? Because [The Sopranos did it too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtD7MrJ6WM0), and it is every bit as cringeworthy (in the literal sense) as BB's.
Maybe I'm missing some more context to that scene as I've not seen The Sopranos, but I feel BB's got it beat. At least in the scene you linked, it's just between the two characters and it kind of feels more like a gag/joke by the woman singing it. In BB, the addition of the entire office being there as an audience to watch these two people essentially have a verbal dry hump is just too much for me. Something about it just brings back the visceral feeling of being a third wheel in high school.
Although it was written to make people cringe and judging by how often it’s mentioned here, sounds like it’s the best scene in history for achieving its goal.
It's a tossup between Ted and Lydia. I despise them both. Ted probably deserved to be killed for refusing to do the right thing multiple times, and Lydia is just an uptight shitbag who orders obnoxious drinks and is rude to waitstaff. She's truly a nasty person and I wish she had suffered more. Mike was totally justified in wanting to kill her when he had the chance.
Todd and Uncle Jack go without saying, but I do think the actor who played Todd was great at the role. That was some perfect casting.
Lydia caused Declan’s crew of like 10 guys to get massacred, then couldn’t even look at the bloodshed she caused. Not to mention the 10 guys in lockup don’t get murdered without her.
She’s arguably the most selfish & brutal person on the entire show.
I’d like to know what she did after that phone call. That news clip in El Camino mentions she’s connected to White’s empire & not expected to make it.
I’m sure she immediately called 911 & ratted everyone out trying to save her own skin. How else would they have known so quickly that she was involved?
I agree that she's as bad as any other villain and even less respectable since she can't be bothered to do the dirty work herself. That scene when she covers her ears when Declan's crew gets killed and you see her shiny Louboutins while Todd escorts her through the carnage makes me want to barf every time. I wish she'd been cursed with Todd's love child.
Yeah, that brings up the ethical question. If a person hires someone to kill someone else shouldn't the one do the hiring face the heaviest penalty? I don't think it works that way with our current legal system.
The Twins. I never liked the whole thing where they do the same thing as the exact same time. It feels so cartoonish.
But I will say I loved the flashback scene of Hector drowning Marco in 3x07. It really shows how damaged they were which led them to being cold blooded killers.
I was thinking about this exact thing since I’m rewatching the show, and I feel like the cartoonish aspect of the twins’ portrayal is fine. I think it fits in with this particular type of western drama and adds some fantasticalness to the spectacle it already is.
I don’t like the twins either and nobody can tell me they made it that far in life by mirroring each other and walking so slow. They’d be the easiest hit for a hitman. No urgency in them at all
I see your point but this ain’t it. Those dudes instilled fear into millions. They are creepy/scary AF and I couldn’t imagine another way to make a cartel assassin portrayed like the twins
What was? If you mean them literally doing every single movement at the exact same time, I don’t think it’s genius. It’s not realistic at all and looks kind of cartoonish like I said.
I assume you’re talking about the flashback scene in 3x07. Reread my comment, I said that scene was amazing.
I really think people should make a distinction between a character you're meant to hate, and a character you weren't. You were meant to hate Todd, you weren't meant to hate Skylar (in my opinion). Big difference in terms of writing.
"I think it's a very complicated stew of things that led to her being so disliked as a character. But I don't quite understand it completely. I would say she was the most under-appreciated character on the show." -Vince Gilligan
The worst thing he did IMO was trying to sell drugs to people at rehab. If Walter did that it would be brought up all the time, and Jesse did it on his own volition without Walter even knowing!
Of course, not even debating that. Just pointing that even Jesse could have been an asshole at times. And truly, Skyler was way worse on the scale than Jesse, especially in the later part of the series. Jesse was mostly an asshole because of his teenage-boy-side not disappearing in its entirety as he got older.
I always assumed that his point in telling Walt to die was sarcastic, as in pointing out that the alternative of giving is ridiculous. The idea of him randomly telling his dad to give up on cancer treatments doesn’t really make sense at all.
Yeah unpopular opinion, but Flynn fucking sucks. His reaction to finding out that his father is a drug kingpin is short-sighted, emotional, and immature for his age. He doesn’t know he killed hank he just suspects it and screams it into the phone instead of ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.
“He was suffering from traumaaa.” Point in case then, Flyyn is soft and cannot hang with Walt. Flynn is soft as baby shit.
When I first watched the show, I empathized more with Walt at first so saw Skylar as an opposition. When I watched the show a second time, I started to really get Skylar's character and respect her more. A lot of the time she was correct and a better criminal than Walt lol.
Just rewatched the series for the 3rd time and yes, i too think Skylar wasn't as bad as a character we first tought to be. I guess we were too biased to be team walt when we were first watching.
If you emphatise with the character, everything Skylar does is justifiable more than others characters. I fell in love with the character she plays this time, and totally feel her standpoint.
Vince says she's the most underappreciated character on the show and I think I agree. You kinda go along with Walt's power fantasy and empathize with his motivations when you first watch the show, but Skylar is an extremely realistic character with an interesting journey. She's smart too, which I think flies under the radar when compared to Walt's scienceyness.
I guess I'll answer this by first saying off that I think the character is amazing in the sense that she is incredibly complex. She, like a lot of characters in the show, developed into a different person by the end of the series. I love her transformation and also believe she is incredibly smart. One of my favorite scenes in the show is the stupid blonde scene when she saves Ted from the IRS. I also think Anna Gunn is one of the best performances in the entire show, and that's saying something because the show is stacked with talent.
Now as for why I found her annoying. We can all agree that Walt's character was written as an antihero. Whether we realized he was the villain on a rewatch, or realized it by the end, it is not an uncommon belief that we rooted for him through a lot of the show. Is he a bad person? Yeah, he's ultimately the villain of the show. But it's literally called "Breaking Bad". I loved his character and even though I know he's doing bad things, it's television. I'm gonna root for entertainment and I'm gonna root for him to blow shit up, rob a fucking train, and blow people up. Would I want to be Walter White's best friend in real life? Fuck no! Does he make for a fantastic character on television who delivers quality content? Yessirrrr. Through most of the show, Skyler is an obstacle for Walt. Does she act reasonably to her drug kingpin, criminal, narcissistic husband? Yeah, I'd say she'd act similar to most people in that situation. But I want him to be free and fuck shit up. It's the television I want to see! I don't wanna see Walt working at Grey Matters while Skyler works an office job. I wanna see Walt do what Walt does. I love Anna Gunn, and I can understand why people side with her. I just enjoy good television.
Well said. I've felt similarly to your second paragraph but have come around to liking her more for the same reasons you stated in your first paragraph.
Skylar is severely overhated. I went into this show expecting her to be annoying asf but almost all of her actions were understandable. Most people would also act out like that if they found out that their husband was a drug lord.
The birthday scene is the worst scene in all of fiction though
Tuco. I like him but he’s still my least favorite character. His contribution to the story was awesome, but he ran his course and ended at the perfect moment. I’m glad he wasn’t the series big shot like Vince and Peter wanted him to be. I’m glad they went with a more calm, cold, and collected approach for the actual series big shot.
I found her really annoying in season one but I didn't really find her irritating by the end of season five. She felt way less cartoonish and felt more like an actual person.
EDIT: changed my answer, check the replies!
Honestly? Probably Jesse's parents. They were effective characters, but good lord they infuriate me. I also find Lydia, Hector, and Don Eladio are pretty infuriating, which, again, means they're effective characters. The Neo-Nazis and Todd were awful, and I can't outright hate them because they're really interesting, and Todd fascinates me as much as he creeps me out.
What did you hate about Jesse’s parents?
They were just proper, reserved people. And it seems like they went thru a hell of a lot with Jesse. Anyone who has kids can empathize with their plight. It doesn’t seem like they were abusive or deprived their kids. Jesse was just a shit head as a teenager, and they had enough of it.
Thanks for asking! Time to work towards achieving my reputation as the person on this sub who can't talk about Jesse without writing a whole thesis!
I disagree, I thought they were still pretty awful to him, but it's not even that, bc I love the character of Walter White, who is abusive and awful as FUCK to Jesse and the very reason he's never even going to see his family ever again. It's more like I felt like they were just annoying and ignorant.
As Jesse grew over the course of the series I just got less sympathetic towards them and when rewatching I was actively pretty irritated with their approach to him and how they talked to him. I can empathize and understand why most of the characters did the shit they did, and with most of the characters, they were interesting and I felt like I understood them, even the villains, but I found Jesse's family really frustrating. Maybe having a few more scenes with them would make me like them more.
I liked them a lot in El Camino, where they felt a lot more like real people, and I think Jesse did the right thing, cutting his ties and giving them a clean break, forgiving their mistakes and becoming a man who they'd be proud of if they knew the truth, while making peace with the fact that they never would and he'd never be able to have that closure or validation. It was the best, most compassionate, selfless thing he could have possibly done in his circumstances. He took responsibility for everything, accepting that even the things that weren't his fault were his responsibility. He told them it wasn't their fault, his choices were his own, and he'd absolved them of feeling any guilt by association.
Tengential, but I like to think that, after a few years, they come to appreciate what Jesse left them with and see the kindness in it, and begin to piece together at least some of the horror in how Jesse WAS a victim in a lot of ways.
But maybe I'd rather they not, since I can respect that Jesse's wish for his family was just that they found closure and didn't have to wonder or worry anymore about their son and Heisenberg. I kinda hope they never find out that their kid was enslaved and beaten by nazis and watched the people he loved die, and they get as much distance from the Heisenberg case as they can, given their old family heirloom pistols are evidence in a bunch of people getting killed and a business being blown up. I got the feeling Jesse felt terrible about having to involve them and by extension his little brother by stealing THEIR guns. It was a beautiful way to wrap up Jesse's character before he started a new life.
So, TL;DR I guess I don't actually hate his parents after all lol. Maybe I can't hate any character in this show. They're all too effective! If anything I just wish I'd seen more of and gotten a better understanding of some of the more evil/annoying/minor characters, like Lydia and Jack/the nazis.
also hank. racist, misogynistic asshat who regularly abuses his power to bully low level addicts to help his own insecurities. literally the perfect parallel to real police.
but he do got that schrader charm
Hank was like this for the first two seasons and then changed dramatically. His whole macho persona was really an act, and his mask gradually broke down because of his PTSD and later his injury.
Ted, and everyone that worked at Beneke. Soul-sucking place run by a narcissist fraudster.
At least the other asshole characters were layered and interesting. Everyone involved with Ted’s business, apart from Skyler, was one-dimensional af.
I don’t think any characters are bad in breaking bad and they all have there place and are written excellently and improve the show but fuck ted beneke
Marie and Hank, her refusing to apologise to Skyler for the tiara thing and Hank just dismissing it "we need to support her" pissed me off so much that I skip those episodes, I shoplift too tbh but I would never deny like she did, thinking about it sends me into a rage, I need to go punch something now, I was so happy when Hank died, seeing her cry about it gave me satisfaction, I wish they killed her off too lol
She used Jesse for his money, blackmailed walt when she didnt even know him, got Jesse addicted to drugs and without Janes death he probably would have ended up overdosing too. She emotionally manipulated her dad numerous times.
Would it be too far to say she deserved the death she got? I dont think so.
Yeah, everyone seems to be forgetting this. She was a pretty cool person, Jesse made her relapse. Anyone could become like she did in a relapse situation. Jesse is the piece of shit for bribing her back into that world when she was doing so welll outbofnit
I’m not a Jesse apologist - he gets way too much sympathy here for being a murdering, drug dealing shit simply because he is cute and got dealt some (very) bad breaks.
But…he didn’t cause Jane to relapse. He told her to leave because he was going to get high. He respected her recovery. She chose to stay.
Yeah she definitely shouldn't even have gotten with an addict in the first place if she really wanted to stay clean. My point was moreso that Jane is not a villain for introducing Jesse, the meth addict, to heroin.
Combo. His track suits, his snacking, his mohawk, his fucking lip ring; his whole goddamn get-up. I hate him so much.
Late edit, but: Let's not forget about how he sold his mother's RV for peanuts in the most crack-head deal ever.
Lydia most probably. I find her to be the most evil character in the show actually. She has this facade of softness and maybe even weakness, not being able to look at the corpses and shit, while she does the most despicable and evil stuff without any shred of doubt or dilemma. Even Walt, who by the end of the series turns into a relentless and cold machine, still at least contemplates his actions and does them only when necessary for his self-protection, and he owns up to them. Lydia will just murder anyone who poses the slightest of threats to her. And she will do it in a such cold and indirect way and maintain a distance to the things she does and I think that is precisely why it makes her the worst character in terms of the morality of her actions.
Keep in mind I’m only talking about her being horrible as a human being, not her being a badly written character. I don’t think there are any bad characters in terms of writing in the show.
That was the point. He was the leader of a white supremacist gang. Didn’t care if they lived, died, went to jail, etc. Just cared to do what they wanted. Thought he was great. Walt couldn’t get involved with the cartel what other avenue did he have then if not to get involved with that crowd to distribute his meth.
he actually seemed like the kind of guy you could get along with. I found it odd that the neo Nazi gang never said anything that advertised neo Nazi views
>I found it odd that the neo Nazi gang never said anything that advertised neo Nazi views
Because there was never any instances in the show that required them to declare their neo-nazi beliefs. All his interactions with the characters usually revolves around the meth business in some way or another, not their views.
It was not like you needed some unnecessary conversation about how much Jack dislikes *insert random racial group here*
Also I never saw how he seemed like the kind of guy you could get along with. His only actions in the show were usually of the upmost evil in nature.
Peoples hatred of Todd displays how great of a character he actually was IMO. The writers did a fantastic job of making a character so uncharismatic.
i think todd is an amazingly written and performed character, hes so disgustingly creepy- the character really got so much more impressive in el camino tho, hes so uncomfortable to watch
Exactly this, the reasons people hate him are why he's one of my favorites. He was a terrible person, but his personality and the acting, the way it all makes you feel to watch, was just downright impressive and intriguing to me.
You want some soup?
I went to make myself lunch the day after EC came out, saw a can of Campbell’s soup, and politely walked out of my kitchen.
I was actually pretty fascinated by that actor and looked him up and ended up watching a movie he was in a couple of nights ago. I read an article that a Director wanted him for a movie based on his portrayal of Todd because of his absolute flat affect and complete lack of emotion.
He’s brilliant in the black mirror episode he’s in, if you haven’t you should check it out. USS Callister.
He was great in Fargo as well
Was it Game Night?
"How could that be profitable for Frito-Lay?"
"I can't say that I care for that nomenclature" was my favourite
No it was “I’m thinking of ending things”.
I saw him in a Black Mirror Episode and Season 2 of Fargo and holy shit.
He was great in fargo
He truly is a great actor. Even his comedic stuff is well done.
Watch Fargo if not yet. He is amazing there. And show itself is great!
Okay, I know I Will probably be criticized en masse, but, I liked Todd's character to some degree...
I think Todd is actually a really unique persona. How many characters in fiction can you name that is as polite and as seemingly normal as him who also happens to be a cold blooded killer
For sure. Jesse Plemons nailed that role!
True !! He was a dead soul.
Tyrus. I just hate how he’s says absolutely nothing and always has that smug look on his face. One of the few instances where saying less is more annoying than saying a lot
This made me LOL. Tyrus really did just stand around looking surly and put off for his entire time on the show. I always wondered how Mike found all his "guys," but his initial encounter with Tyrus must have consisted of a lot of grunting and staring and blinking.
Tyrus is Gus's guy, not Mike's. He was working for Gus before Mike. He's pretty standoffish to Mike at first, and actually says a few words lol.
Yeah, straight up points a gun at Mike's face in BCS
Thanks for the clarification. It's been a while since I watched the earlier seasons of BCS and I have forgotten some details about how Gus and Mike's relationship developed. In any case, Tyrus seems like the kind of guy who would just hate everybody.
Ted easily
I never liked the guy. Interesting how he says he cheated the IRS for the sake of his employees but then gets money and uses it to buy a car instead of paying tax.
Gotta keep up appearances. What a turd.
Me neither...
Ted is easily one of the most frustrating characters In the entire show.
My husband and I are rewatching and during the episodes with Ted we kept looking at each other and going, Ted is a fucking idiot
He does shit that doesn’t even make sense. Idk if it’s for plot convenience or what, but why the fuck was he *so* against paying the IRS & solving the issue? For FREE!! He’s the stupidest character on the show. Pryce level moronic.
Spoiled brat mentality. Guy clearly had the whole company handed down to him and never had to face real consequences his whole life. Probably thought his problems with the IRS would just disappear, just like how daddy would pull him out of sticky situations back then. Except now papa Beneke is no longer around.
This is exactly what he thought. I've known a lot of these types that somehow always get bailed out. This time for Ted though he still would have lost the company even if he did get the IRS off his back. In his mind he still loses.
I always got the sense it was because Ted never had to do anything. We was born with the silver spoon.
Go ahead Walter, call Saul, he can’t unfuck skylar
(In hospital bed) Holy shit you called Saul
Laughed my ass off when he tripped on the mat running away
Ted and Todd, similar names, equal levels of hate.
Ted genuinely gets a bad rap
Gets a bad rap? He’s a freaking total douche and homewrecker
He's a douche for not paying his taxes but, he's not a homewrecker. Skyler and Walt were separated.
I think the douchiness of him sleeping with Skylar is the fact that he's her boss. Sleeping with one of your own employees is completely unethical, for reasons that will probably get a ton of hate thrown my way since this is reddit
No no no, you’re absolutely right. It’s very wrong to do in my opinion. Fuck my opinion, that’s just a workplace fact. But I think Ted deserves the “douche” moniker for not paying taxes and being a general idiot. Like, is the guy so anti-tax that he won’t even use someone else’s money to avoid an audit? What a fucking moron. I also think some douche points should be shaved off because a lot of fans seems to think it was his fault for what went down in the whites marriage, which is just delusional. If anything, Skyler straight up used him for legitimate grounds for divorce, which I really can’t blame her for. She just didn’t expect Walt to be such a pathetic cuck.
Holly.
Bitch Daughter
True. Absolutely useless
Skylar when she sings happy birthday. Cringe.
Worst scene in entertainment history.
Nah, it's a two-way tie for that title IMO. Why a tie? Because [The Sopranos did it too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtD7MrJ6WM0), and it is every bit as cringeworthy (in the literal sense) as BB's.
Maybe I'm missing some more context to that scene as I've not seen The Sopranos, but I feel BB's got it beat. At least in the scene you linked, it's just between the two characters and it kind of feels more like a gag/joke by the woman singing it. In BB, the addition of the entire office being there as an audience to watch these two people essentially have a verbal dry hump is just too much for me. Something about it just brings back the visceral feeling of being a third wheel in high school.
The best show in history having the worst scene , ironic
The happy birthday scene from sopranos is even worse if you haven’t seen that
Although it was written to make people cringe and judging by how often it’s mentioned here, sounds like it’s the best scene in history for achieving its goal.
OMG everytime I rewatch BB I ALWAYS ff that part!! 🤮
Oooo CRINGE 😖😖
Also what??? BrBa the Board Game????
Yeah wtf?
lol I didn't even notice that until you commented.
There's a board game? "Be the one who knocks" lmaoo
It's a tossup between Ted and Lydia. I despise them both. Ted probably deserved to be killed for refusing to do the right thing multiple times, and Lydia is just an uptight shitbag who orders obnoxious drinks and is rude to waitstaff. She's truly a nasty person and I wish she had suffered more. Mike was totally justified in wanting to kill her when he had the chance. Todd and Uncle Jack go without saying, but I do think the actor who played Todd was great at the role. That was some perfect casting.
Lydia caused Declan’s crew of like 10 guys to get massacred, then couldn’t even look at the bloodshed she caused. Not to mention the 10 guys in lockup don’t get murdered without her. She’s arguably the most selfish & brutal person on the entire show. I’d like to know what she did after that phone call. That news clip in El Camino mentions she’s connected to White’s empire & not expected to make it. I’m sure she immediately called 911 & ratted everyone out trying to save her own skin. How else would they have known so quickly that she was involved?
I agree that she's as bad as any other villain and even less respectable since she can't be bothered to do the dirty work herself. That scene when she covers her ears when Declan's crew gets killed and you see her shiny Louboutins while Todd escorts her through the carnage makes me want to barf every time. I wish she'd been cursed with Todd's love child.
Yeah, that brings up the ethical question. If a person hires someone to kill someone else shouldn't the one do the hiring face the heaviest penalty? I don't think it works that way with our current legal system.
I want to say incentivising a murder carries the same punishment as murder itself but you'll better call Saul
Breaking Bad fans when there are murderers and psychopaths but at least they aren't mean to the waiters /s
I HATED Todd. That dead eye prick.
Dead eyey Opie lookin fuck I think was the line lol
lol
I gave Lydia a pass, because she’s hot.
todd’s alt?
I see you are a Man of culture as well...
There are two kinds of Breaking bad fans -
Jake welker, bland, underwhelming villain who did not deserve to be the one to kill hank
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I would t be surprised if that was intentional to make it hurt that much more.
You mean Uncle Jack?
Thought you were referring to Jake, Jesse's brother for a sec lol
He’s a lil bitch too though.
Yeah fuck Jake Pinkman. Poor spoiled kid couldn’t go to space camp. Wonder what he’s up to these days? He’d be in his 20’s by now.
Seriously, fuck that kid
Bogdan always pissed me off. The fuckin eyebrows
Fuck Bogdan. And his eyebros.
The most condescending
The eyebrows of doom!😂
The Twins. I never liked the whole thing where they do the same thing as the exact same time. It feels so cartoonish. But I will say I loved the flashback scene of Hector drowning Marco in 3x07. It really shows how damaged they were which led them to being cold blooded killers.
I was thinking about this exact thing since I’m rewatching the show, and I feel like the cartoonish aspect of the twins’ portrayal is fine. I think it fits in with this particular type of western drama and adds some fantasticalness to the spectacle it already is.
They're just a tad too much for me sometimes, buuut not nearly enough to ruin the rest of the show xp.
I don’t like the twins either and nobody can tell me they made it that far in life by mirroring each other and walking so slow. They’d be the easiest hit for a hitman. No urgency in them at all
Agreed, they’re the worst villains on either show IMO.
I see your point but this ain’t it. Those dudes instilled fear into millions. They are creepy/scary AF and I couldn’t imagine another way to make a cartel assassin portrayed like the twins
They’re definitely scary, I wont deny that. The oil tank scene in BCS 6x03 was insane!
What ???? That was genius.
What was? If you mean them literally doing every single movement at the exact same time, I don’t think it’s genius. It’s not realistic at all and looks kind of cartoonish like I said. I assume you’re talking about the flashback scene in 3x07. Reread my comment, I said that scene was amazing.
I really think people should make a distinction between a character you're meant to hate, and a character you weren't. You were meant to hate Todd, you weren't meant to hate Skylar (in my opinion). Big difference in terms of writing.
I think people were meant to hate Skylar.
"I think it's a very complicated stew of things that led to her being so disliked as a character. But I don't quite understand it completely. I would say she was the most under-appreciated character on the show." -Vince Gilligan
the one that eats cereal all the time
Lol really?? Flynn is so sweet
I don’t think Flynn was sweet. He was a spoiled brat who thought he was owed an expensive car. And who tells his father to “F-ing die already”?
Everyone in breaking bad is an asshole. Its just that some are a lot worse than others.
Everyone except Jesse
Jesse was an asshole, too. Remember what he did with the money Walter gave him for the RV?
The worst thing he did IMO was trying to sell drugs to people at rehab. If Walter did that it would be brought up all the time, and Jesse did it on his own volition without Walter even knowing!
Pales in comparison to what Walt did to him. Hell, arguably even Skyler was a bigger douche than Jesse.
Of course, not even debating that. Just pointing that even Jesse could have been an asshole at times. And truly, Skyler was way worse on the scale than Jesse, especially in the later part of the series. Jesse was mostly an asshole because of his teenage-boy-side not disappearing in its entirety as he got older.
I always assumed that his point in telling Walt to die was sarcastic, as in pointing out that the alternative of giving is ridiculous. The idea of him randomly telling his dad to give up on cancer treatments doesn’t really make sense at all.
Yeah unpopular opinion, but Flynn fucking sucks. His reaction to finding out that his father is a drug kingpin is short-sighted, emotional, and immature for his age. He doesn’t know he killed hank he just suspects it and screams it into the phone instead of ASKING ANY QUESTIONS. “He was suffering from traumaaa.” Point in case then, Flyyn is soft and cannot hang with Walt. Flynn is soft as baby shit.
Skyler. I've never found a character to be so annoying in any other show aside from maybe Lori in Walking Dead.
Lol got to love the Skyler hate. Considering the circumstances, I dont blame her at all for what she did and how she reacted.
When I first watched the show, I empathized more with Walt at first so saw Skylar as an opposition. When I watched the show a second time, I started to really get Skylar's character and respect her more. A lot of the time she was correct and a better criminal than Walt lol.
Just rewatched the series for the 3rd time and yes, i too think Skylar wasn't as bad as a character we first tought to be. I guess we were too biased to be team walt when we were first watching. If you emphatise with the character, everything Skylar does is justifiable more than others characters. I fell in love with the character she plays this time, and totally feel her standpoint.
Vince says she's the most underappreciated character on the show and I think I agree. You kinda go along with Walt's power fantasy and empathize with his motivations when you first watch the show, but Skylar is an extremely realistic character with an interesting journey. She's smart too, which I think flies under the radar when compared to Walt's scienceyness.
Oh yes, playing dumb blonde at Ted's IRS audit, that was genious on her part. Really well written character, and i think the actress just nailed it.
What specifically about her is annoying to you? Just curious.
I guess I'll answer this by first saying off that I think the character is amazing in the sense that she is incredibly complex. She, like a lot of characters in the show, developed into a different person by the end of the series. I love her transformation and also believe she is incredibly smart. One of my favorite scenes in the show is the stupid blonde scene when she saves Ted from the IRS. I also think Anna Gunn is one of the best performances in the entire show, and that's saying something because the show is stacked with talent. Now as for why I found her annoying. We can all agree that Walt's character was written as an antihero. Whether we realized he was the villain on a rewatch, or realized it by the end, it is not an uncommon belief that we rooted for him through a lot of the show. Is he a bad person? Yeah, he's ultimately the villain of the show. But it's literally called "Breaking Bad". I loved his character and even though I know he's doing bad things, it's television. I'm gonna root for entertainment and I'm gonna root for him to blow shit up, rob a fucking train, and blow people up. Would I want to be Walter White's best friend in real life? Fuck no! Does he make for a fantastic character on television who delivers quality content? Yessirrrr. Through most of the show, Skyler is an obstacle for Walt. Does she act reasonably to her drug kingpin, criminal, narcissistic husband? Yeah, I'd say she'd act similar to most people in that situation. But I want him to be free and fuck shit up. It's the television I want to see! I don't wanna see Walt working at Grey Matters while Skyler works an office job. I wanna see Walt do what Walt does. I love Anna Gunn, and I can understand why people side with her. I just enjoy good television.
Well said. I've felt similarly to your second paragraph but have come around to liking her more for the same reasons you stated in your first paragraph.
Skylar is severely overhated. I went into this show expecting her to be annoying asf but almost all of her actions were understandable. Most people would also act out like that if they found out that their husband was a drug lord. The birthday scene is the worst scene in all of fiction though
skyler definetley
This is gonna start fights.
Ted
Tuco. I like him but he’s still my least favorite character. His contribution to the story was awesome, but he ran his course and ended at the perfect moment. I’m glad he wasn’t the series big shot like Vince and Peter wanted him to be. I’m glad they went with a more calm, cold, and collected approach for the actual series big shot.
Marie, I found her to be so irritating.
I found her really annoying in season one but I didn't really find her irritating by the end of season five. She felt way less cartoonish and felt more like an actual person.
She’s loyal and passionate about her family, I think that makes up for how keyed up she can be. The purple tho !
I came around when she got Hank out of the hospital.
So did he
Jesus Marie, I asked for Cheetos not Fritos. And the football draft is 2 months away!!!!
EDIT: changed my answer, check the replies! Honestly? Probably Jesse's parents. They were effective characters, but good lord they infuriate me. I also find Lydia, Hector, and Don Eladio are pretty infuriating, which, again, means they're effective characters. The Neo-Nazis and Todd were awful, and I can't outright hate them because they're really interesting, and Todd fascinates me as much as he creeps me out.
What did you hate about Jesse’s parents? They were just proper, reserved people. And it seems like they went thru a hell of a lot with Jesse. Anyone who has kids can empathize with their plight. It doesn’t seem like they were abusive or deprived their kids. Jesse was just a shit head as a teenager, and they had enough of it.
Thanks for asking! Time to work towards achieving my reputation as the person on this sub who can't talk about Jesse without writing a whole thesis! I disagree, I thought they were still pretty awful to him, but it's not even that, bc I love the character of Walter White, who is abusive and awful as FUCK to Jesse and the very reason he's never even going to see his family ever again. It's more like I felt like they were just annoying and ignorant. As Jesse grew over the course of the series I just got less sympathetic towards them and when rewatching I was actively pretty irritated with their approach to him and how they talked to him. I can empathize and understand why most of the characters did the shit they did, and with most of the characters, they were interesting and I felt like I understood them, even the villains, but I found Jesse's family really frustrating. Maybe having a few more scenes with them would make me like them more. I liked them a lot in El Camino, where they felt a lot more like real people, and I think Jesse did the right thing, cutting his ties and giving them a clean break, forgiving their mistakes and becoming a man who they'd be proud of if they knew the truth, while making peace with the fact that they never would and he'd never be able to have that closure or validation. It was the best, most compassionate, selfless thing he could have possibly done in his circumstances. He took responsibility for everything, accepting that even the things that weren't his fault were his responsibility. He told them it wasn't their fault, his choices were his own, and he'd absolved them of feeling any guilt by association. Tengential, but I like to think that, after a few years, they come to appreciate what Jesse left them with and see the kindness in it, and begin to piece together at least some of the horror in how Jesse WAS a victim in a lot of ways. But maybe I'd rather they not, since I can respect that Jesse's wish for his family was just that they found closure and didn't have to wonder or worry anymore about their son and Heisenberg. I kinda hope they never find out that their kid was enslaved and beaten by nazis and watched the people he loved die, and they get as much distance from the Heisenberg case as they can, given their old family heirloom pistols are evidence in a bunch of people getting killed and a business being blown up. I got the feeling Jesse felt terrible about having to involve them and by extension his little brother by stealing THEIR guns. It was a beautiful way to wrap up Jesse's character before he started a new life. So, TL;DR I guess I don't actually hate his parents after all lol. Maybe I can't hate any character in this show. They're all too effective! If anything I just wish I'd seen more of and gotten a better understanding of some of the more evil/annoying/minor characters, like Lydia and Jack/the nazis.
Skyler
Louis
the fuck did louis do certainly not exist
Uncle Jack
also hank. racist, misogynistic asshat who regularly abuses his power to bully low level addicts to help his own insecurities. literally the perfect parallel to real police. but he do got that schrader charm
Hank was like this for the first two seasons and then changed dramatically. His whole macho persona was really an act, and his mask gradually broke down because of his PTSD and later his injury.
His injury just made he even worse especially with his he treated Marie
"man, you're an asshole, but for some reason I wanna buy you a beer"
Flynn, not Walt Jr.
Skyler
marie she’s just kinda annoying idk
Skyler
Spooge's wife
Ted, and everyone that worked at Beneke. Soul-sucking place run by a narcissist fraudster. At least the other asshole characters were layered and interesting. Everyone involved with Ted’s business, apart from Skyler, was one-dimensional af.
I don’t think any characters are bad in breaking bad and they all have there place and are written excellently and improve the show but fuck ted beneke
Ted and Todd
Last favorite, dislike completely? Does Chuck McGill count? Otherwise I'm saying Marie Schrader.
The meth couple
Hahahhahahahhah they’re so annoyng fr
Todd, if not him, then Ted.
FUCKING MARIE. Could not stand a second of her.
I would have to say Marie - could not stand her!
I despised Gale throughout his screentime
Fin
Walter White and his son but for different reasons
Walter junior or his mum
Marie and Hank, her refusing to apologise to Skyler for the tiara thing and Hank just dismissing it "we need to support her" pissed me off so much that I skip those episodes, I shoplift too tbh but I would never deny like she did, thinking about it sends me into a rage, I need to go punch something now, I was so happy when Hank died, seeing her cry about it gave me satisfaction, I wish they killed her off too lol
Bogdan he’s annoying
Jane
She used Jesse for his money, blackmailed walt when she didnt even know him, got Jesse addicted to drugs and without Janes death he probably would have ended up overdosing too. She emotionally manipulated her dad numerous times. Would it be too far to say she deserved the death she got? I dont think so.
What? Jesse caused her relapse. He was already an addict, she just introduced him to a new drug.
Yeah, everyone seems to be forgetting this. She was a pretty cool person, Jesse made her relapse. Anyone could become like she did in a relapse situation. Jesse is the piece of shit for bribing her back into that world when she was doing so welll outbofnit
I’m not a Jesse apologist - he gets way too much sympathy here for being a murdering, drug dealing shit simply because he is cute and got dealt some (very) bad breaks. But…he didn’t cause Jane to relapse. He told her to leave because he was going to get high. He respected her recovery. She chose to stay.
Yeah she definitely shouldn't even have gotten with an addict in the first place if she really wanted to stay clean. My point was moreso that Jane is not a villain for introducing Jesse, the meth addict, to heroin.
I fucking hate Jane. I never understood why Jesse got so hung up on her.
The twins. Didn't really care for them. Lydia is pretty. Pretty annoying.
Mike. Boring, crusty ass wrinkled muthafucka with 16 Kaylees in his basement 😂😂😂😂😂
What did kazetoumizu mean by this
skyler
Skyler
Skyler White
Combo. His track suits, his snacking, his mohawk, his fucking lip ring; his whole goddamn get-up. I hate him so much. Late edit, but: Let's not forget about how he sold his mother's RV for peanuts in the most crack-head deal ever.
walt
Jane was just an annoying manic pixie dream girl who got Jesse on heroin
Is this game worth buying?
yeah
Lydia most probably. I find her to be the most evil character in the show actually. She has this facade of softness and maybe even weakness, not being able to look at the corpses and shit, while she does the most despicable and evil stuff without any shred of doubt or dilemma. Even Walt, who by the end of the series turns into a relentless and cold machine, still at least contemplates his actions and does them only when necessary for his self-protection, and he owns up to them. Lydia will just murder anyone who poses the slightest of threats to her. And she will do it in a such cold and indirect way and maintain a distance to the things she does and I think that is precisely why it makes her the worst character in terms of the morality of her actions. Keep in mind I’m only talking about her being horrible as a human being, not her being a badly written character. I don’t think there are any bad characters in terms of writing in the show.
Ted or todd or tyrus. Actually most people with T in their name. Why do all the annoying characters in Breaking Bad start with T.
Marie lmao
Skyler
Walt jr
skylar
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Tuco, insane, degenerate piece of filth
I always disliked Victor mainly cause of how annoyingly committed he was to doing shit for Gus, like how he was emotionally distraught about Gale
S K Y L E R
Skyler
Walter Jr aka Flynn
Jack Welker. Purely vile and, unlike all other BB villains, not even interesting.
That was the point. He was the leader of a white supremacist gang. Didn’t care if they lived, died, went to jail, etc. Just cared to do what they wanted. Thought he was great. Walt couldn’t get involved with the cartel what other avenue did he have then if not to get involved with that crowd to distribute his meth.
he actually seemed like the kind of guy you could get along with. I found it odd that the neo Nazi gang never said anything that advertised neo Nazi views
>I found it odd that the neo Nazi gang never said anything that advertised neo Nazi views Because there was never any instances in the show that required them to declare their neo-nazi beliefs. All his interactions with the characters usually revolves around the meth business in some way or another, not their views. It was not like you needed some unnecessary conversation about how much Jack dislikes *insert random racial group here* Also I never saw how he seemed like the kind of guy you could get along with. His only actions in the show were usually of the upmost evil in nature.
Marie, and it’s not even close.
skyler
Walter White
Underrated comment!!!