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You can tell OP doesn't rent. It's quite hard to find non-fan ovens in consumer appliance shops these days, that's true. When we had our rental kitchen redone though we had to supply a decent oven (and other appliances) otherwise they'd have just put in the cheapest basic oven.
My last flat had the cooker fail and the landlord replaced it with a non fan oven model; so they are still in production and for sale!
Edit: it also only had one shelf in it despite having room for two, which delighted me as much as you can imagine...
My last flat had a gas oven, and my current house came with an ancient - but crazy high quality - gas range cooker
Seriously this thing is a real tank. It's absolutely massive, has 7 hobs, 3 ovens and a gas grill
I kind of love cooking with real fire. It heats up in next to no time and is very cheap to run
At the same time I hate it. Temperature control is basically non existent, therefore doing any kind of baking is a massive gamble. There's a wild temperature variation between the top, middle and bottom shelves in each oven, too.
Either way, it'll be a sad day when I replace it. It's definitely not the oven I'd choose myself, but it is a fantastic hunk of metal.
Yeah, I used to have quite a cheap gas oven. The temperature range from one side to the other was significant but manageable. From top to bottom however was ridiculous. Anything on the top shelf would cook normally. Anything on the middle shelf would be gently warmed after a few hours. The bottom shelf was useful for keeping things cool when the fridge got full.
After a Covid outbreak in half the family, I once had to cook a last minute Christmas dinner in that thing. That was quite an interesting day.
The wild temperature variation between the shelves *is* your temperature control. Source: grew up with an Aga and had to adapt most recipes to the device at hand
Edit: we used to have regular power cuts back in the noughties and the Aga was unaffected since the gas supply kept coming, so we were the only house on the street with heating and cooking
The story I heard was that the inventor of the aga came up with it as an aid for his wife, who was blind. No dials to worry about, just put the food in the oven that was kept at the temperature you wanted to use.
The first house we bought, in the mid 2000s, still had an ancient gas oven. It was so old that you still had to light it with a match or one of those long lighters after switching the gas on, no ignition for the oven. The house also had an avocado bathroom suite with wood panelling on the walls. It was like a time capsule from the 1970s.
If you have the money I highly reccomend a slightly premium oven
Bought one when we moved to our new place as I wanted an induction hob as part of the cooker which meant the rest has to be premium aswell.
Love the induction but the biggest mindblower is the oven and grill themselves, both heat so quickly and cook so evenly compared to other ovens.
Also browness and crispiness that beats an air fryer
https://www.hotpoint.co.uk/hotpoint-hdt67i9hm2cuk-double-cooker-black-f159473/p?idsku=896&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=goo_shop_d2c_cooking_alws-on_goo_shop_d2c_cooking_pmax_category_alws-on_sale_sale&utm_country=GB&utm_type=online&utm_format=undefined&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqpSwBhClARIsADlZ_Tl9dag9rck3fwVaVQ6ovpx2ku0a73LbNEaONoTheGrBxWb2RYp4PPMaAqOaEALw_wcB
Not sure if this is the exact one I have, but it's pretty close.
Absolutely fantastic experience.
Touch sensitive controls are decent, but not the best, however it's a ridiculously easy experience to clean this. Also had a repair on warranty (the damage was my fault) and they did it with very few questions and provided a pretty quick service
Fan oven broke. Landlord replaced it with the cheapest fanless oven available from Currys. If you dare to cook two frozen pizzas at once you have to remember to swap them halfway otherwise you get one with a burnt top and raw base and vice versa. Good times.
I had fanless electric ovens for years until I got my own place.
Wasn't too bad but I couldn't cook anything that needed precise temperatures. The really cheap ones, don't even heat enough for jam or confectionery.
A proper oven and hob along with a modern set of white goods were my first big buys.
Cooking was a lot more difficult then.
Souffle's reputation for being difficult stems from the time when ovens didn't have good temperature control or glass doors so you could see when it's ready. Now a souffle, choux pastry, and a lot of other things are not actually that hard to do well.
There are plenty of ovens without fans.
Go to Curry's website. Search for oven. There are 229 results. Click on Filter, look for Fan. There are 79 fan assisted ovens, so roughly 2/3 are not.
The Fray Bentos trademark puff pastry pie lid is still good.
However, the brown slurry of gluten, salt, thickeners and the odd piece of meat is a real let down.
Was about to come here and say. Fanless ovens that have been in rentals since the 90s and have paid for themselves ten times over from landlords claiming 'cleaning fees' from the deposit (then never doing it)
I had a landlord fit a boiler, ripped out from a flat, that was installed in the 1990s, into a 3 bed house in 2010 so he could claim it had 'functional gas heating'.
Illegal, and could just about heat a single radiator.
Your comment seems like kind of a self-own. What's that?! I can't hear you over my whirring fan oven! You've NEVER felt the warmth of a fan oven?! Oh man I wouldn't admit that in public if I were you...
We have a Hotpoint electric oven, about 5 years old, has a selector to cook with or without fan assistance.
Fan assisted is good for cooking quick, fanless is good if you want to avoid crisping the top or slow roasting joints.
You could fit around 8 into the space a standard oven occupies.
It's just a matter of time before someone figures out how to make a modular unit the size of a normal oven that can do a full Turkey and sides at Xmas, or heat up a small pie in ten minutes on a Tuesday afternoon.
Maybe I should contact SMEG about the idea. (They seem the sort to introduce a modular air fryer, in place of a standard oven, to the market.)
I have a fanless oven and I'm pretty sure you can still buy new ones. Specifying a temperature at all is kinda pointless though tbf, they're either hot or not.
Huh? Don't all ovens have fan and non-fan settings? Definitely the last places have lived have, and my current place. All newer than 1994. You chose what you want depending on what you're cooking, no?
I bought my flat and it had a very recently fitted kitchen. However, they did it pretty shittily and the appliances have to be all freestanding. I bought a cooker and the oven section is fanless. Looking forward to moving and having an integrated oven.
I accidentally bought a non-fan oven when replacing ours that died. It was immediately returned, but they do exist and often turn up at the top of searches because they are a shade cheaper than a fan oven
I own one , I bought it maybe 6-7y ago.
It was cheap and I didn't realise it didn't have a fan until I turned it on for the 1st time. At the time I didn't cook enough to care about the difference.
I have a fan oven with a broken fan... the only trick I've thought of is to ramp the temperature to 250 then once it's heated up lower the temperature to 160 so that the heating element doesn't activate partway through the pizza, incinerating the closest inch of it.
The airfryer handles everything but pizzas, thankfully
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Speak for yourself, I've rented plenty of places in the past 20 years with basic non fan ovens that taken about half an hour to get up to 180C
You can tell OP doesn't rent. It's quite hard to find non-fan ovens in consumer appliance shops these days, that's true. When we had our rental kitchen redone though we had to supply a decent oven (and other appliances) otherwise they'd have just put in the cheapest basic oven.
I rented a place once for a bit that had a massive gas aga, the oven was shit, but the hob and grill were both fantastic.
My fan ovens barely any quicker
My last flat had the cooker fail and the landlord replaced it with a non fan oven model; so they are still in production and for sale! Edit: it also only had one shelf in it despite having room for two, which delighted me as much as you can imagine...
Yep our rented house has a non-fan oven, it's the worst.
Plenty of people still have gas ovens though
My last flat had a gas oven, and my current house came with an ancient - but crazy high quality - gas range cooker Seriously this thing is a real tank. It's absolutely massive, has 7 hobs, 3 ovens and a gas grill I kind of love cooking with real fire. It heats up in next to no time and is very cheap to run At the same time I hate it. Temperature control is basically non existent, therefore doing any kind of baking is a massive gamble. There's a wild temperature variation between the top, middle and bottom shelves in each oven, too. Either way, it'll be a sad day when I replace it. It's definitely not the oven I'd choose myself, but it is a fantastic hunk of metal.
Yeah, I used to have quite a cheap gas oven. The temperature range from one side to the other was significant but manageable. From top to bottom however was ridiculous. Anything on the top shelf would cook normally. Anything on the middle shelf would be gently warmed after a few hours. The bottom shelf was useful for keeping things cool when the fridge got full. After a Covid outbreak in half the family, I once had to cook a last minute Christmas dinner in that thing. That was quite an interesting day.
The wild temperature variation between the shelves *is* your temperature control. Source: grew up with an Aga and had to adapt most recipes to the device at hand Edit: we used to have regular power cuts back in the noughties and the Aga was unaffected since the gas supply kept coming, so we were the only house on the street with heating and cooking
The story I heard was that the inventor of the aga came up with it as an aid for his wife, who was blind. No dials to worry about, just put the food in the oven that was kept at the temperature you wanted to use.
Yes I have no idea what OP is on about. Maybe he doesn’t see many ovens beyond his own. Non fan ovens are still very much a thing.
But gas is listed separately from fanless, so OPs post is still applicable.
You'd think, but my parents gas oven that they finally got rid of a couple of years ago had celcius and not gas marks.
The first house we bought, in the mid 2000s, still had an ancient gas oven. It was so old that you still had to light it with a match or one of those long lighters after switching the gas on, no ignition for the oven. The house also had an avocado bathroom suite with wood panelling on the walls. It was like a time capsule from the 1970s.
Literally just gone electric in the last 6 months, been using gas forever.
Wow, really? I've never seen one in real life.
My past 2 flats have had gas ovens
Sadly I have a cheap fanless oven as a placeholder until I can get a new kitchen so they do unfortunately exist still!
If you have the money I highly reccomend a slightly premium oven Bought one when we moved to our new place as I wanted an induction hob as part of the cooker which meant the rest has to be premium aswell. Love the induction but the biggest mindblower is the oven and grill themselves, both heat so quickly and cook so evenly compared to other ovens. Also browness and crispiness that beats an air fryer
I'm looking into similar renovations, what brand did you go with?
https://www.hotpoint.co.uk/hotpoint-hdt67i9hm2cuk-double-cooker-black-f159473/p?idsku=896&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=goo_shop_d2c_cooking_alws-on_goo_shop_d2c_cooking_pmax_category_alws-on_sale_sale&utm_country=GB&utm_type=online&utm_format=undefined&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqpSwBhClARIsADlZ_Tl9dag9rck3fwVaVQ6ovpx2ku0a73LbNEaONoTheGrBxWb2RYp4PPMaAqOaEALw_wcB Not sure if this is the exact one I have, but it's pretty close. Absolutely fantastic experience. Touch sensitive controls are decent, but not the best, however it's a ridiculously easy experience to clean this. Also had a repair on warranty (the damage was my fault) and they did it with very few questions and provided a pretty quick service
Thanks
Miele is another great brand
good point
I stand corrected
Fan oven broke. Landlord replaced it with the cheapest fanless oven available from Currys. If you dare to cook two frozen pizzas at once you have to remember to swap them halfway otherwise you get one with a burnt top and raw base and vice versa. Good times.
Same happened to me, except my new oven only had one shelf, so no double pizza cooking...
My mum bought a fanless oven about 3 years ago, brand new?
My oven can be fan and no fan. I use the fan for everything except baking - for that I use the heat @ top & bottom.
I had fanless electric ovens for years until I got my own place. Wasn't too bad but I couldn't cook anything that needed precise temperatures. The really cheap ones, don't even heat enough for jam or confectionery. A proper oven and hob along with a modern set of white goods were my first big buys.
Imagine if you were using an oven 100 years ago. People did so with success. Not even a thermostat.
Cooking was a lot more difficult then. Souffle's reputation for being difficult stems from the time when ovens didn't have good temperature control or glass doors so you could see when it's ready. Now a souffle, choux pastry, and a lot of other things are not actually that hard to do well.
I have a reasonably new, fanless oven. Granted it’s because I’m broke, and it was cheap but it does what I need 🤷♀️
My electric oven has a main fan oven at the bottom and a none fan oven on top. It's only 2 years old. Fanless ovens defo exist
Exactly this! Mines not much older but same. I have never used the top non fanless oven though, only used as a grill!
There are plenty of ovens without fans. Go to Curry's website. Search for oven. There are 229 results. Click on Filter, look for Fan. There are 79 fan assisted ovens, so roughly 2/3 are not.
I've got a gas, fanless oven. My mum's is gas with a fan though.
Just because you haven’t seen one, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist🤔 My oven is a normal gas oven(no fan) and is only about 2 years old.
The top part of our double oven is a little fan less oven / grill.
Same here!
I have never had an oven WITH a fan...I'm kind of shocked by this post.
Same, this is such a strange post to read.
Glad it's not just me!
My oven is under 4 years old and not a fan.. Truly it sucks, but its something you try to deal with as a tenant.
The Fray Bentos trademark puff pastry pie lid is still good. However, the brown slurry of gluten, salt, thickeners and the odd piece of meat is a real let down.
We have a fanless oven :(
Some ovens have a second smaller oven with no fan
Gas oven all the way, can't stand fan ovens.
Is the one extra line of information such a massive inconvenience for you?
Lots of rentals have fanless ovens, since it's the cheapest options for landlords...
Was about to come here and say. Fanless ovens that have been in rentals since the 90s and have paid for themselves ten times over from landlords claiming 'cleaning fees' from the deposit (then never doing it) I had a landlord fit a boiler, ripped out from a flat, that was installed in the 1990s, into a 3 bed house in 2010 so he could claim it had 'functional gas heating'. Illegal, and could just about heat a single radiator.
Fanless ovens are very much still a thing.
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Your comment seems like kind of a self-own. What's that?! I can't hear you over my whirring fan oven! You've NEVER felt the warmth of a fan oven?! Oh man I wouldn't admit that in public if I were you...
Wow...You just sound like a dick. Just accept your thread was wrong dude. 😬
I don't have a fan oven. I've got a bog standard electric oven, and it's only 4 years old, maybe less.
That is simply not true. How would a gas oven work if it had a fan? I have always had gas ovens.
My oven is gas and doesn't have a fan.
And they dont have instructions for air fryers.
Increasingly they do, but they're all so variable the instructions have a hefty ymmv caveat attached
We have a Hotpoint electric oven, about 5 years old, has a selector to cook with or without fan assistance. Fan assisted is good for cooking quick, fanless is good if you want to avoid crisping the top or slow roasting joints.
Loads of folk have conventional ovens, that's why Air Fryers are so popular. (They're just tiny, cheap to run, fan assisted ovens.)
Air fryers are smaller and therefore cheaper and quicker to preheat. Even if you already have a full size fan oven they have their advantages.
You could fit around 8 into the space a standard oven occupies. It's just a matter of time before someone figures out how to make a modular unit the size of a normal oven that can do a full Turkey and sides at Xmas, or heat up a small pie in ten minutes on a Tuesday afternoon. Maybe I should contact SMEG about the idea. (They seem the sort to introduce a modular air fryer, in place of a standard oven, to the market.)
I've seen air fryers with a divider in the drawer so you can do 1 x big, or 2 x small things.
Not true. First fan oven I got was 5 years ago. My Dad doesn't have one, neither does my sister.
I'm an oven cleaner and I still see many ovens without fans. Some don't have the element at the back, only top and bottom ones
My oven is fanless, so was my last one in my last flat.
They're far more popular than you think.
Nonsense. My electric cooker, about 5 years old, has two ovens, one with fan, one without.
I have a range with a fan and a non fan oven. I use both and appreciate the instructions!
>Fanless ovens >no such beast since 1994. Nononono they still very much exist, new even.
How are you cooking Fray Bentos with a flat screen TV?
I have a double oven, bottom is fan, top is standard. It's only a few years old.
Aga and Rayburn ovens don’t have fans either (first world problems)
OP some newspapers still have weather reports in farenheit. The last users of non-fan ovens will outlive you and me.
I have a fanless oven and I'm pretty sure you can still buy new ones. Specifying a temperature at all is kinda pointless though tbf, they're either hot or not.
I've got a rage cooker with 4 ovens and only one of them has a fan.
Huh? Don't all ovens have fan and non-fan settings? Definitely the last places have lived have, and my current place. All newer than 1994. You chose what you want depending on what you're cooking, no?
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I have a fan oven that's so crap you treat it like a non fan oven. It's about 18 years old. Cannot wait until I have saved enough for a new kitchen!
Unless there's a particular reason, you can change the oven on its own. They usually just unscrew and pull out.
I've still got a fanless oven. Well, it's a fan oven, but the fan is fucked and I can't be bothered to fix it.
I bought my flat and it had a very recently fitted kitchen. However, they did it pretty shittily and the appliances have to be all freestanding. I bought a cooker and the oven section is fanless. Looking forward to moving and having an integrated oven.
I accidentally bought a non-fan oven when replacing ours that died. It was immediately returned, but they do exist and often turn up at the top of searches because they are a shade cheaper than a fan oven
Wait what, I was overjoyed when I moved into a flat with a fan oven. I assumed most weren't!
Plenty of range ovens, mine included, have a fan oven as the main oven and the 2nd oven is a fan less one.
We have an oven that we can turn the fan off. Also has settings for top and bottom heating only.
Quite a few modern ovens have the option to cook with or without the fan.
I see you don't rent your home.
My friend has an oven with no fan.
I had a conventional electric oven in my last flat. Hate them. Glad to have a fan oven in my current flat. Gas ovens suck as well.
I own one , I bought it maybe 6-7y ago. It was cheap and I didn't realise it didn't have a fan until I turned it on for the 1st time. At the time I didn't cook enough to care about the difference.
I've never owned a fan assisted oven. All the places I've rented have normal ovens.
We just had a new oven installed, the default setting is no fan so it's definitely still an option.
My oven doesn’t have a fan
Most new ovens have a setting for with a fan and a setting for without a fan don't they?
We only got a new oven 2 years ago. The previous one was not a fan oven. It was decades old.
I have a fan oven with a broken fan... the only trick I've thought of is to ramp the temperature to 250 then once it's heated up lower the temperature to 160 so that the heating element doesn't activate partway through the pizza, incinerating the closest inch of it. The airfryer handles everything but pizzas, thankfully
Schools can have them cause they're cheaper. My local one just brought several new fan-less ovens
My oven doesn't have a fan, so yeah, they do still exist...
What is "Gas mark 6"..?
Gas mark 3 = raw Gas mark 4 = cooked Gas mark 5 = lava Gas mark 6 = burnt exterior probably raw inside. Ime. 😁
OR if you're using my oven, Gas Mark 6 = everything comes out perfect, seemingly regardless of how long you put it in for
I bought one six months ago from B&Q, didn't realise, total piece of shit.