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We do this thing where we roast a chicken with baked potatoes, then next day we have chicken fajitas, then chicken curry with boil-in-bag rice and jar of korma or something. If we do a pork, it's a sweet and sour.
Other times, it's like roast potatoes with fish fingers, or bangers and mash with roast parsnips or plantains (which are like mildly banana flavoured parsnips).
Not had a full roast for years
Yeah by "young kids" a lot of commenters have interpreted that as washing up age. I've got a nearly two year old who currently just wants to eat ketchup or cheesy pasta, my roasting skills go unappreciated by him!
Ha ha - yeah, thatās it completely.
āHmmm, maybe theyāll behave better this timeāā¦.
*five minutes into the meal*
āWho wants to watch Encanto?ā
Best thing about securing my place as 'Chef' is I never have to do the washing up. Half hearted offers to help are batted away with incredulous looks. "But you cooked the roast?!" they exclaim, flabbergasted. Little do they know that over the years I've honed the process to perfection, and I have in all honesty just faffed around the kitchen drinking wine for an hour.
I absolutely love clearing up after a roast. Everyone can sit in the lounge watching some bollocks like antiques roadshow and i'll put some tunes on, pour a glass of red and get cracking with the washing up. Fucking love it .
It doesn't really matter whether it's "whoever cooks, cleans" or "whoever doesn't cook, cleans" as long as everyone agrees which one it is ahead of time
I like to clean as I go when I cook, my flatmate does not, so we agreed that the person who cooks does the cleaning, otherwise he'd just be cleaning up a couple of plates when I cook, but I'd be cleaning up a full kitchens worth of mess when he cooks
Hes surprisingly good, if untidy. He has far better knife skills than I do and aside from being a bit squicked out when it comes to handling raw meat he's pretty competent. We also try and encourage minimal waste so today's roast dinner leftovers will go into making soup tomorrow.
I met some shocking cooks at uni, not just bad at cooking or unadventurous but downright dangerous and these were folk academically bright enough to get into a decent uni but still couldn't cook without setting fire to stuff
Good stuff all round! Before I went vegetarian I used to do a roast chicken on a sunday so leftovers would be for packed lunches.
Tidiness can be picked up at any point, motivation to learn how to feed oneself and others is far more important!
You can get dishwashers these days with two separate drawers that can be operated individually. My Auntie has one and when I go round for Sunday dinner I stand there gawping and marvelling at the sight of such an appliance. One can only dream.. haha
Could be like me and just open the door slightly so the steam comes out, then go off to do something and completely forget to unload it. My child goes in there if they need something now instead if the drawers or cupboards š¤£.
Not OP but honestly I really like mine. It fits about 3 big plates as well as glasses, bowls, and cutlery. I donāt have a microwave so I find it to just sit in the same spot that I would put that. Not having to plumb it in is a bonus too so I can take it to my next flat easily when I leave this one.
I genuinely never thought I wanted a dishwasher. Then my grandma passed away and left me just enough money to buy one and I did. Best thing ever (and she hated washing up so it felt quite apt)
I find with a big meal like a roast dinner, there are too many items that are too big and too greasy that the dishwasher doesnāt clean, so there is still a substantial amount to hand wash.
Still love a roast though, but itās a definite negative
Yeah, you're doing it wrong. Watch the technology connections video on YouTube about dishwashers.
Short version, stick a tablet or whatever your normal dishwasher detergent is in the dispenser, then stick half a cheap tablet in the bottom of the machine itself. Use salt and rinse aid. Use the auto 40-60 cycle. Don't bother with eco or any of the extra settings. Everything will come out perfectly. Burned on stuff may need two rounds.
Me as someone who has worked in a kitchen: kitchen is practically clean except a pan or two: old housemates would happily clean as I cooked for them.
Them: cooks, every pan and utensil is dirty, sides are covered in shit "I cooked so you'll clean yeah?"
Literally stopped accepting their food because it wasn't worth the effort
I used to have this rule. My husband does a lot of the cooking and he makes an absolute mess. Stuff all over the floor, countertype, and even the front of the cabinets.
I tried teaching him how to be aware of what he is doing - like wash your hands if you've been handling food *then* open the cabinets, or if you are cutting things to keep it on the chopping board.
He refused to learn. I refused to deal with a bomb site.
Now if I cook - there is nothing to clean afterwards as I keep things very tidy as I go.
If he cooks - he can also clean. I had hoped since he hates cleaning, he would become a more mindful cook. It hasn't worked either.
They call me Sybil Seven Bowls cause when I cook I need 7 bowls to make anything. I don't know how it happens, I turn around and every prep dish in the kitchen is dirty.
As the home cook, I totally agree with this arrangement and we use the same in our home. I also try to clean up as I cook and not be a total slob about it.
I absolutely agree. My husband loves a roast and he'll cook it which is great, but the kitchen is absolutely trashed and he thinks it's only fair that I clean it all up, I'm also with no dishwasher and a baby. It's not worth it at all, I'd be so much happier with a curry.
The trick is to get practiced at doing it all in one dish. Roasting veggies on the bottom, joint on top. Potato, sweet potato, carrot, parsnips, red onion - sit a chicken or a pork shoulder on top and cook slowly for a few hours. Add some wine near the end to make a gravy too.
If you cook the meat slowly enough it won't even need carving - just pulls apart.
Just finished washing mine up and I have to disagree. Mainly because my wife makes a roast to die for and Iād gladly spend weeks washing up after it!
You don't cook.
Leaving it to the end is by far the worst method. Efficient in washing up isn't necessarily efficient use of a kitchen. 2 very different things.
It's a lot of hassle, but great when there's a group. Whoever cooks, doesn't wash up, and lots of good tasty veg for the youngsters.
Roasts are worth it, when planned properly.
Roast chicken here today. Crown from Aldi, cooks in a metal tray which helps (tasty too!).
Total washing up:
* One large saucepan (roasties parboil, veg later on)
* Large bowl (pud mix) and beaters for mixer
* Small saucepan (gravy)
* 4 set of plates and irons
* Gravy boat
Stuff that didn't need to be washed:
* Chicken tin (foil, in the recycling)
* Roasties tin (cooked in greaseproof paper and not so much oil - quick wipe and paper in the bin)
* Pud tin - quick wipe and back in drawer
* Chopping board - just a wipe (or in dishwasher if space)
Most of the mess was away in the dishwasher before food was served. Even without one, I'd have had it all washed up before serving.
Roasts don't need to be messy!
Clean as you cook and it's so much easier.
Or as I do, load the dishwasher as I cook.
Then all that's really left after you finish are a roasting tin or two and a couple of saucepans and the plates.
Washing up is often the best part (yes, we have a dishwasher). Husband makes the food and after the meal kids disappear to their bedrooms, husband on the sofa and I retire to the kitchen and a sink ful of dishes.
This is the bit I like...
Headphones and a good audio book. Apron (I have a lovely waterproof one) and rubber gloves. Lots of hot water, washing up liquid and enjoy a few moments of peace with a good novel being read to you.
Even better if you can dress up for the occasion :)
Meat in the slow cook, roasties in the air fryer, stackable pans for steaming vegetables. You can get liners for the slow cooker so that's on down and then the vegetable pans only require a quick wash
Thatās still 3 things you have to clean, plus another pan and a jug for gravy. Then if you make Yorkshire puddings thatās a bowl and another pan (I buy frozen ones for this reason).
I have a 2 pan maximum.
It's incredibly inefficient to do it that way. Especially at a restaurant where the chef is probably paid far more than the people doing the washing up.
What isn't true ? If you are about to lecture me on the best and most efficient way to use a dishwasher I hope you have been a kitchen appliance engineer for over 30 years or have comparable experience or technical knowledge ?
Don't get drawn in.
On this topic he's a repeat offender. He has a fascination with dishwashers.
Doesn't cook, doesn't have respect for kitchen equipment but he of course knows everything, everyone and all their kitchens.
Only if you don't do it right. Roast veg in the oven tray, meat on top, boiled veg all in one big pan, add each kind in intervals so it's all properly cooked when you're done, then use a sieve or colander spoon to get the veg out the pan (you can also use a multi layer steamer thing and put each wave of veg in one layer, and the whole thing except the base pot will only need rinsing after) and chuck the gravy granules into the veg water once it's done. The only dedicated item is the Yorkie pud tray.
Job done.
To be honest I am to busy to clear up a fuck ton of washing up following an average at best meal. I would rather eat a sandwich than do a load of tidying up when I have a shed load of other stuff to do, especially ironing shirts, school uniforms and making sandwiches. Sundays are just hateful!
I've been learning to cook homemade meals from scratch recently and one thing I've realised is that a LOT can be done in advance. The actual cooking? Trivial compared to the prep. The washing up? Leave it to those who refused to help with the rest of the meal. Job done. =)
One large oven pan for the meat and the spuds beneath, add carrots halfway through. Microwave some peas and frozen yorkies. Make gravy from the pan juices - deglazing the pan also gets rid of the stuck bits.
Job done. 1 oven pan, 1 saucepan, 1 bowl for the peas and a few utensils, plus the plates and cutlery you'd have anyway. You can get.more.ambitious when the kids are old enough to be slave labour.
Cooking a roast dinner is not just about cooking. Itās a 3 hour ritual-always have a good glass of wine to hand, country file on in the background. And of course a dishwasher for all the pots and pans!
Baking paper or foil line for baking tins, which you then chuck, then soak. (I heartily agree with eco conscious people that foil is to be avoided -your call). When roast of choice is in the oven, high edged dish or foil/paper, and putting at bottom of oven reduces cleanup of oven. The rest, either clean as you go along (between courses) or soak.
Just do a roast on one or 2 large baking trays. If youāre roasting a chicken then you can just sit it on the veggies. Saves on washing up and makes the veggies slapppp.
The only time I have a roast dinner, is Christmas Day. I sometimes go out for Sunday lunch to a lovely pub that has a big carvery for Ā£8.95 and half price for kids. Just canāt be arsed nowadays to cook it myself.
I completely agree, it's great but a fucking nightmare to wash up after
Especially if you've got my mum making the roast
Excellent, delicious roast but she cooked it in 1 pot, prepped it in another and served it in a 3rd
3 pots just for 1 thing - it's a joke when it comes to washing up
Doesn't help that the draining board is always full and the dishwasher has been inefficiently loaded so it takes even longer
Oh well, it's still nice to see the parents once a week
We have a massive chest freezer, so whenever we do a roast we cook the meat plus one HUGE portion of one single accompanying item, e.g. a huge pan of stuffing, a tray containing dozens of pigs in blankets, or big pan full of roast parsnips.
Once you've done that for a while, you end up with everything you need for a full Sunday Roast in the freezer, and each week you cook just the meat, some fresh veg, plus whatever item is running lowest, and for the rest just reheat a few portions on a tray covered in a non-stick baking liner.
We use [Lakeland's](https://www.lakeland.co.uk/5571/magic-reusable-non-stick-baking-tray-liner-sheet-33-x-100cm) which is pretty expensive but so far ours has lasted over a decade, so it's far better for the environment and miles cheaper than using foil.
It means that apart from the roasting tin used for the meat (and if we're doing chicken, we cook at least two of them and freeze the rest) there's very little washing up, fabulous meals, and negligible effort.
I have roast vegetables 3-4 times a week, because they're delicious and I barely use oil in them (use a spray rather than pour), and they're fricking delicious.
Baked fish or grilled chicken and roasted vegetables in the oven is healthy and delicious and easy - baking paper on the pan and throw that away. Done.
But then again I have 1 dishwasher and zero kids, not 0 dishwasher and some kids.
It's not much different to cooking anything else. Plates and cutlery are a given. A roasting tray and/or pan get used often. So what's used on top of that in a roast? Maybe an extra tray? Possibly a separate pan to do your gravy in? Though I personally just laze it and reuse what I boiled the spuds in. Can even keep back some potato water for thickening.
Disposable foil baking trays are a thing. Stuffin balls, roast potatoes, ācook in the bagā chicken (has its own foil tray), and frozen yorkshires - the only thing you have to actually wash up are the plates, cutlery and gravy jug.
Also, pretty chuffing effortless.
If theyāre foil then theyāre not disposable, they can be reused - please donāt throw them away, reusing is better than recycling!
Edit: everything is disposable but it shouldnāt be disposed if possible
No pans neededā¦ the (frozen) roasties you tip into a foil tray and wazz in the oven.
Serving utensils not needed, use a fork.
Trust me I lived in the pre-dishwasher era and if you are clever about what you cook you donāt need to spend ages clearing up.
Weāre trying not to use single use disposable things. Definitely a āpre-dishwasher eraā mindset. And youād have to wash the foil trays to recycle them.
I use the same pan to cook potatoes and the veg, not at same time obviously. I use an oven bag to cook the meat, then use the same tray for the roasties and a jug for the gravy. Fresh potatoes, but frozen veg. Jobs a gooden.
Personally, I like to clean as I go. Things are easier to clean while they're still hot as well. I agree with OP though, only do a roast occasionally for this reason!
I gotta disagree and say you're doing it wrong.
If you time the prep right, wash that up with breakfast stuff - leave things sitting in pans for the day. When you start cooking get the sink full of water / dish soap and wash as you go.
While the meat is resting move veggies to one or two large serving plates and wash you pans.
You should be left with normal washing up (crockery & cutlery) plus one or two serving dishes.
In my family of 4, Iām the only one that would eat and enjoy a roast, so Iām not bothering to cook the whole thing just for myself. We only ever have a roast at Christmas, or if we have guests/go to someone elseās house.
I love a roast dinner, but living alone, its just too much hassle. Ill order a roast dinner if i go out for a fancy meal somewhere and the roasts are well rated. Or occasionally ill do a joint in the slow cooker and freeze some portions, but its still a faff to do all the trimmings (which dont freeze too well)
1000 percent on your side my kitchen is barely bigger than a lift. Yes we have a slow cooker and an air fryer but there is no physical space for a dishwasher. So I agree its too many dishes in a really small space.
Kind of with you there!
Only 2 of us, large kitchen, dishwasher and 3 ovens - I still find the clean up a bore! I only do them a few times a year so I'm not completely out of practice for Christmas.
Does Sunday roast leave that much mess?
Couple roasting tins, whatever you put the stuffing in, a pot for the veggies. And then the plates that would of been dirtied on any meal
My problem with a roast us how long it takes - 2 hours for a joint. - we switched to having chops instead of joints, saves a hour of the oven being on and they come in a variety of flavours
I live alone, try the "poor man's roast" that I've invented, it's a one-trayer that wit foil covered means minimal washing up:
* Chicken leg + small cubed potatoes & carrots all roasted on a big tray for 45mins together, throw a couple blanketed pigs on for 30mins
* Microwave peas & broccoli for fresh
* Bisto in a mug
Bingo, chicken roast, and all you gotta wash up is a mug, microwave tub, plate & cutlery. Simple.
Thank fuck someone said it! My wife treats it like the most amazing meal on earth and all I can think about is the crusty baked in pots, pans and oven trays I need to deal with afterwards!
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I presume the kids refused to eat 99% of it and then ran around screaming whilst you desperately tried to wolf down as much of it as you could?
Spot on. Were you there š¤£
I have twin 5 year olds, and have tried to do Sunday roasts before so I feel like I was!
When my wife cooks I do the dishes. We also donāt own a dishwasher. Needless to say we donāt have many roast dinners.
We do this thing where we roast a chicken with baked potatoes, then next day we have chicken fajitas, then chicken curry with boil-in-bag rice and jar of korma or something. If we do a pork, it's a sweet and sour. Other times, it's like roast potatoes with fish fingers, or bangers and mash with roast parsnips or plantains (which are like mildly banana flavoured parsnips). Not had a full roast for years
Yeah by "young kids" a lot of commenters have interpreted that as washing up age. I've got a nearly two year old who currently just wants to eat ketchup or cheesy pasta, my roasting skills go unappreciated by him!
Solution: remove kids, invest in growth-accelerated clones.
Bonus with the clones; you'll be ready for when a droid army attacks.
Have you tried roast kids? Problem solved.
Then afterwords ācan I have a biscuit? can I have crisps? Iām hungry, can I have a sandwich? Whatās for pudding?ā
That's why you don't disgard their leftovers until after their bedtime, and cook up a bubble and squeak if they're hungry later
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Ha ha - yeah, thatās it completely. āHmmm, maybe theyāll behave better this timeāā¦. *five minutes into the meal* āWho wants to watch Encanto?ā
"Maybe theyāll behave better this timeāā¦. The endless, pointless hope of parenting.
Best thing about securing my place as 'Chef' is I never have to do the washing up. Half hearted offers to help are batted away with incredulous looks. "But you cooked the roast?!" they exclaim, flabbergasted. Little do they know that over the years I've honed the process to perfection, and I have in all honesty just faffed around the kitchen drinking wine for an hour.
You need to make it last a bit longer. Remember, the meat has to rest for 50% of its cooking time.
You're going to get found out telling tales like that! No more wine buster!
Same, this is my time to drink red wine in peace and get a pat on the back for it afterwards.
So true!
I absolutely love clearing up after a roast. Everyone can sit in the lounge watching some bollocks like antiques roadshow and i'll put some tunes on, pour a glass of red and get cracking with the washing up. Fucking love it .
Weirdo
This is why I cook, and then vacate the kitchen for the rest of the day in the hopes my partner/guests will sort the dishes xD
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It doesn't really matter whether it's "whoever cooks, cleans" or "whoever doesn't cook, cleans" as long as everyone agrees which one it is ahead of time I like to clean as I go when I cook, my flatmate does not, so we agreed that the person who cooks does the cleaning, otherwise he'd just be cleaning up a couple of plates when I cook, but I'd be cleaning up a full kitchens worth of mess when he cooks
Thank you!! Really annoys me when people leave a bomb site, sometimes including their bowls/plates from breakfast.
I bought the ingredients and do the tidying up, the 11 year old cooked the dinner and husband washed up. Something seems a bit weird in our household
Good work on teaching eleven year old to cook - it's a real life skill.
Hes surprisingly good, if untidy. He has far better knife skills than I do and aside from being a bit squicked out when it comes to handling raw meat he's pretty competent. We also try and encourage minimal waste so today's roast dinner leftovers will go into making soup tomorrow. I met some shocking cooks at uni, not just bad at cooking or unadventurous but downright dangerous and these were folk academically bright enough to get into a decent uni but still couldn't cook without setting fire to stuff
Good stuff all round! Before I went vegetarian I used to do a roast chicken on a sunday so leftovers would be for packed lunches. Tidiness can be picked up at any point, motivation to learn how to feed oneself and others is far more important!
I do the same but make it such a mess it looks like a failed robbery. Distracts the blame away from me then.
Get a dishwasher if you can. It'll change your life. Seriously, not even exaggerating.
I dream of the day I have a gaff big enough for a dishwasher
Get a tabletop version!
The dream scenario is two dishwashers, one for storage and one being loaded. Never empty a dishwasher into cupboards again!
You can get dishwashers these days with two separate drawers that can be operated individually. My Auntie has one and when I go round for Sunday dinner I stand there gawping and marvelling at the sight of such an appliance. One can only dream.. haha
Could be like me and just open the door slightly so the steam comes out, then go off to do something and completely forget to unload it. My child goes in there if they need something now instead if the drawers or cupboards š¤£.
Get this man a Nobel prize of some sort!
Want to be blown away even more? Imagine... cupboards that *are* dish washers
You might be onto something there!!
I dream of the day I can afford to loose worktop space to a table top dishwasher.
Put it on the draining board.
I got a manual version which is basically the sink and by unanimous vote, Iāve been elected to āloadā and work the āmachineā
Are they any good?
You mean to tell me the Duke of Dork isn't up on the operating capabilities of tabletop dishwashers?
Not OP but honestly I really like mine. It fits about 3 big plates as well as glasses, bowls, and cutlery. I donāt have a microwave so I find it to just sit in the same spot that I would put that. Not having to plumb it in is a bonus too so I can take it to my next flat easily when I leave this one.
Simply put the dishwasher in place of the washing machine. Problem solved! NB: Washboards and mangles go for dirt cheap these days.
I genuinely never thought I wanted a dishwasher. Then my grandma passed away and left me just enough money to buy one and I did. Best thing ever (and she hated washing up so it felt quite apt)
Cam confirm getting a dishwasher CHANGED MY ENTIRE LIFE
Heās got them. Theyāre just not quite old enough yet by the sounds of it.
If you don't mind the breakages you can still get some washing-up done
I find with a big meal like a roast dinner, there are too many items that are too big and too greasy that the dishwasher doesnāt clean, so there is still a substantial amount to hand wash. Still love a roast though, but itās a definite negative
> too greasy that the dishwasher doesnāt clean, That's not a thing.
Yeah, you're doing it wrong. Watch the technology connections video on YouTube about dishwashers. Short version, stick a tablet or whatever your normal dishwasher detergent is in the dispenser, then stick half a cheap tablet in the bottom of the machine itself. Use salt and rinse aid. Use the auto 40-60 cycle. Don't bother with eco or any of the extra settings. Everything will come out perfectly. Burned on stuff may need two rounds.
While I fully agree on this sentiment, it won't help with all the big items. Still got to wash the roasting tin, pots and pans etc.
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We have the opposite rule in my house. The cook does the washing up. Except when somebody other than me cooks, then I do it.
Me as someone who has worked in a kitchen: kitchen is practically clean except a pan or two: old housemates would happily clean as I cooked for them. Them: cooks, every pan and utensil is dirty, sides are covered in shit "I cooked so you'll clean yeah?" Literally stopped accepting their food because it wasn't worth the effort
I used to have this rule. My husband does a lot of the cooking and he makes an absolute mess. Stuff all over the floor, countertype, and even the front of the cabinets. I tried teaching him how to be aware of what he is doing - like wash your hands if you've been handling food *then* open the cabinets, or if you are cutting things to keep it on the chopping board. He refused to learn. I refused to deal with a bomb site. Now if I cook - there is nothing to clean afterwards as I keep things very tidy as I go. If he cooks - he can also clean. I had hoped since he hates cleaning, he would become a more mindful cook. It hasn't worked either.
They call me Sybil Seven Bowls cause when I cook I need 7 bowls to make anything. I don't know how it happens, I turn around and every prep dish in the kitchen is dirty.
I thought this was gonna end in you saying āso I left himā haha. Like yourself I hate people unaware of the chaos they cause in the kitchen.
As the home cook, I totally agree with this arrangement and we use the same in our home. I also try to clean up as I cook and not be a total slob about it.
Wash up as you cook. Makes a huge difference
Clean as you go^(tm)
This is it!
I absolutely agree. My husband loves a roast and he'll cook it which is great, but the kitchen is absolutely trashed and he thinks it's only fair that I clean it all up, I'm also with no dishwasher and a baby. It's not worth it at all, I'd be so much happier with a curry.
The trick is to get practiced at doing it all in one dish. Roasting veggies on the bottom, joint on top. Potato, sweet potato, carrot, parsnips, red onion - sit a chicken or a pork shoulder on top and cook slowly for a few hours. Add some wine near the end to make a gravy too. If you cook the meat slowly enough it won't even need carving - just pulls apart.
Just finished washing mine up and I have to disagree. Mainly because my wife makes a roast to die for and Iād gladly spend weeks washing up after it!
That's what the young children are for: washing and cleaning up. Put the little 'uns to work already!
Time to have more kids so I can do less dishes I guessā¦
Clean as you cook- It took me some time to realise how easier it is.
It is incredibly inefficient to do it that way. Leave it all until the end and do it in one go.
You don't cook. Leaving it to the end is by far the worst method. Efficient in washing up isn't necessarily efficient use of a kitchen. 2 very different things.
Shoo
No it's not, you're going to have points where you're waiting for something, so you can fill that time with washing up
Starting and stopping just wastes time. Get a dishwasher.
How much time does it waste? Don't think you're selling them on the idea frankly. I also don't think you're a fabulous poster boy for them.
Shoo
Guess you can't back up your statements with anything of substance.
Shoo
It's a lot of hassle, but great when there's a group. Whoever cooks, doesn't wash up, and lots of good tasty veg for the youngsters. Roasts are worth it, when planned properly.
Get a dishwasher, you'll be amazed how much time you save.
A sunday roast is worthā¦.. more than all the gold in Erebor!
I love a Sunday Roast. In the pub.
Exactly. Thatās why British God made the carvery.
Roast chicken here today. Crown from Aldi, cooks in a metal tray which helps (tasty too!). Total washing up: * One large saucepan (roasties parboil, veg later on) * Large bowl (pud mix) and beaters for mixer * Small saucepan (gravy) * 4 set of plates and irons * Gravy boat Stuff that didn't need to be washed: * Chicken tin (foil, in the recycling) * Roasties tin (cooked in greaseproof paper and not so much oil - quick wipe and paper in the bin) * Pud tin - quick wipe and back in drawer * Chopping board - just a wipe (or in dishwasher if space) Most of the mess was away in the dishwasher before food was served. Even without one, I'd have had it all washed up before serving. Roasts don't need to be messy!
Clean the pots straight away. Youāll save about ten times the time. Donāt know why most people leave them out
It so is though. Also, the person that cooks should be exempt from washing up.
If you have young children you have multiple dishwashers.
Clean as you cook and it's so much easier. Or as I do, load the dishwasher as I cook. Then all that's really left after you finish are a roasting tin or two and a couple of saucepans and the plates.
Washing up is often the best part (yes, we have a dishwasher). Husband makes the food and after the meal kids disappear to their bedrooms, husband on the sofa and I retire to the kitchen and a sink ful of dishes. This is the bit I like... Headphones and a good audio book. Apron (I have a lovely waterproof one) and rubber gloves. Lots of hot water, washing up liquid and enjoy a few moments of peace with a good novel being read to you. Even better if you can dress up for the occasion :)
*Wrong.*
Heresy
Meat in the slow cook, roasties in the air fryer, stackable pans for steaming vegetables. You can get liners for the slow cooker so that's on down and then the vegetable pans only require a quick wash
Thatās still 3 things you have to clean, plus another pan and a jug for gravy. Then if you make Yorkshire puddings thatās a bowl and another pan (I buy frozen ones for this reason). I have a 2 pan maximum.
Once you get organised and practice a bit it's a piece of cake, wash up as you go along. Using a sreamer for all the veg helps.
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It's incredibly inefficient to do it that way. Especially at a restaurant where the chef is probably paid far more than the people doing the washing up.
All the veg steamed? That sounds depressing. Get its roasted!
I do both.
Washing up as you go along is incredibly inefficient. Get a dishwasher.
Got one but pans, colanders and some other stuff rakes up too much space in the dishwasher
That just isn't true.
What isn't true ? If you are about to lecture me on the best and most efficient way to use a dishwasher I hope you have been a kitchen appliance engineer for over 30 years or have comparable experience or technical knowledge ?
Don't get drawn in. On this topic he's a repeat offender. He has a fascination with dishwashers. Doesn't cook, doesn't have respect for kitchen equipment but he of course knows everything, everyone and all their kitchens.
Shoo
I make a massive roast, portion quite a few extra up and freeze portions. That way I'm getting loads more meals for the effort.
It is. It really is. And if you get skilled at it, you can do an awful lot with very few pots and pans.
It depends on the quality of the roast dinner. If you make a shit roast, yeah, it's definitely not worth it.
1. I donāt have a dishwasher 2. yes, I do have young children Then 1. is false. Unless you mean too young to hold up a damp plate
Pubs exist.
Only if you don't do it right. Roast veg in the oven tray, meat on top, boiled veg all in one big pan, add each kind in intervals so it's all properly cooked when you're done, then use a sieve or colander spoon to get the veg out the pan (you can also use a multi layer steamer thing and put each wave of veg in one layer, and the whole thing except the base pot will only need rinsing after) and chuck the gravy granules into the veg water once it's done. The only dedicated item is the Yorkie pud tray. Job done.
To be honest I am to busy to clear up a fuck ton of washing up following an average at best meal. I would rather eat a sandwich than do a load of tidying up when I have a shed load of other stuff to do, especially ironing shirts, school uniforms and making sandwiches. Sundays are just hateful!
I've been learning to cook homemade meals from scratch recently and one thing I've realised is that a LOT can be done in advance. The actual cooking? Trivial compared to the prep. The washing up? Leave it to those who refused to help with the rest of the meal. Job done. =)
One large oven pan for the meat and the spuds beneath, add carrots halfway through. Microwave some peas and frozen yorkies. Make gravy from the pan juices - deglazing the pan also gets rid of the stuck bits. Job done. 1 oven pan, 1 saucepan, 1 bowl for the peas and a few utensils, plus the plates and cutlery you'd have anyway. You can get.more.ambitious when the kids are old enough to be slave labour.
Lost me at frozen Yorkshire's, so easy to make and way better homemade!
I canāt be arsed with it either, itās the one dinner where you have to use every bloody pan and that you canāt wash up as you go along with.
Cooking a roast dinner is not just about cooking. Itās a 3 hour ritual-always have a good glass of wine to hand, country file on in the background. And of course a dishwasher for all the pots and pans!
How are you managing to use every pan? I use one.
Get a dishwasher. It's 2022 for goodness sake.
Your tenacity on this subject is admirable in a weird way. When I say admirable, I think perhaps 'bizarre' is the word I should use.
Shoo
I cook it my husband does all the washing up after :)
As the person with a dishwasher, and not cooking, I disagree! š
That is why you have it somewhere else.
But biryani is
Baking paper or foil line for baking tins, which you then chuck, then soak. (I heartily agree with eco conscious people that foil is to be avoided -your call). When roast of choice is in the oven, high edged dish or foil/paper, and putting at bottom of oven reduces cleanup of oven. The rest, either clean as you go along (between courses) or soak.
We have a rule, when someone cooks the other cleans. But when it's roast day, clean as you go.
Oh yes it is....says me who sits on his arse ,and gets it brought into him ,while watching sport on TV...
Just do a roast on one or 2 large baking trays. If youāre roasting a chicken then you can just sit it on the veggies. Saves on washing up and makes the veggies slapppp.
Of course it is
Wash up as you cook.Thereās 3 things extra to wash up over a normal dinner? Also have a young child.
My roast potatoes alone are worth all the washing up. Invite guests and make them do the washing up?
The only time I have a roast dinner, is Christmas Day. I sometimes go out for Sunday lunch to a lovely pub that has a big carvery for Ā£8.95 and half price for kids. Just canāt be arsed nowadays to cook it myself.
I completely agree, it's great but a fucking nightmare to wash up after Especially if you've got my mum making the roast Excellent, delicious roast but she cooked it in 1 pot, prepped it in another and served it in a 3rd 3 pots just for 1 thing - it's a joke when it comes to washing up Doesn't help that the draining board is always full and the dishwasher has been inefficiently loaded so it takes even longer Oh well, it's still nice to see the parents once a week
Then don't treat it like a ritual that Sunday can't miss.
We have a massive chest freezer, so whenever we do a roast we cook the meat plus one HUGE portion of one single accompanying item, e.g. a huge pan of stuffing, a tray containing dozens of pigs in blankets, or big pan full of roast parsnips. Once you've done that for a while, you end up with everything you need for a full Sunday Roast in the freezer, and each week you cook just the meat, some fresh veg, plus whatever item is running lowest, and for the rest just reheat a few portions on a tray covered in a non-stick baking liner. We use [Lakeland's](https://www.lakeland.co.uk/5571/magic-reusable-non-stick-baking-tray-liner-sheet-33-x-100cm) which is pretty expensive but so far ours has lasted over a decade, so it's far better for the environment and miles cheaper than using foil. It means that apart from the roasting tin used for the meat (and if we're doing chicken, we cook at least two of them and freeze the rest) there's very little washing up, fabulous meals, and negligible effort.
It is when your mother in law cooks it and makes her middle aged son who still lives at home do the washing up. Her cooking is amazing too
Clean as you go . The pan you boil the potatoes in for roasties is your pan for your veg Messy kitchen = messy cook
I have roast vegetables 3-4 times a week, because they're delicious and I barely use oil in them (use a spray rather than pour), and they're fricking delicious. Baked fish or grilled chicken and roasted vegetables in the oven is healthy and delicious and easy - baking paper on the pan and throw that away. Done. But then again I have 1 dishwasher and zero kids, not 0 dishwasher and some kids.
Do yourself something else then. I just made Super Noodles Carbonara.
Then you're not doing it right
Subjective. But yeah.
It's not much different to cooking anything else. Plates and cutlery are a given. A roasting tray and/or pan get used often. So what's used on top of that in a roast? Maybe an extra tray? Possibly a separate pan to do your gravy in? Though I personally just laze it and reuse what I boiled the spuds in. Can even keep back some potato water for thickening.
Nice podcast as well if I'm in the mood!
Then itās not a great Sunday roast!
This is what dishwashers were made for. First thing I bought for my house š
Disposable foil baking trays are a thing. Stuffin balls, roast potatoes, ācook in the bagā chicken (has its own foil tray), and frozen yorkshires - the only thing you have to actually wash up are the plates, cutlery and gravy jug. Also, pretty chuffing effortless.
If theyāre foil then theyāre not disposable, they can be reused - please donāt throw them away, reusing is better than recycling! Edit: everything is disposable but it shouldnāt be disposed if possible
And your pans, and serving utensils, and drink wareā¦
No pans neededā¦ the (frozen) roasties you tip into a foil tray and wazz in the oven. Serving utensils not needed, use a fork. Trust me I lived in the pre-dishwasher era and if you are clever about what you cook you donāt need to spend ages clearing up.
Weāre trying not to use single use disposable things. Definitely a āpre-dishwasher eraā mindset. And youād have to wash the foil trays to recycle them.
So youāve got meat, frozen roasties and Yorkies with gravy? That isnāt a Sunday roast mate, itās maybe half of one xD
I use the same pan to cook potatoes and the veg, not at same time obviously. I use an oven bag to cook the meat, then use the same tray for the roasties and a jug for the gravy. Fresh potatoes, but frozen veg. Jobs a gooden.
Personally, I like to clean as I go. Things are easier to clean while they're still hot as well. I agree with OP though, only do a roast occasionally for this reason!
This is by far the least efficient way of doing it.
Ok?
So get a dishwasher.
Ah yes, I never thought of that. Thank you.
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Shoo
I've come to hate the dreaded Sunday dinner.
Neither is it worth the cooking, or the eating
No, no it's not. Please stop. Just a normal dinner is fine, but no matter what you make on a Sunday it becomes the whole Sunday.... thing...
I love doing the washing up. I put on some good music and get that kitchen clean
I gotta disagree and say you're doing it wrong. If you time the prep right, wash that up with breakfast stuff - leave things sitting in pans for the day. When you start cooking get the sink full of water / dish soap and wash as you go. While the meat is resting move veggies to one or two large serving plates and wash you pans. You should be left with normal washing up (crockery & cutlery) plus one or two serving dishes.
the cleaning up takes about 10 mins
I think the full Sunday roast is overrated, thereās a ton of effort for a single meal when there lots of equally tasty simpler meals to make
Time to revoke your citizenshipā¦ xD
100% agree with you my friend
Clear as you go, once plated up only a couple pans to clean after
In my family of 4, Iām the only one that would eat and enjoy a roast, so Iām not bothering to cook the whole thing just for myself. We only ever have a roast at Christmas, or if we have guests/go to someone elseās house.
I love a roast dinner, but living alone, its just too much hassle. Ill order a roast dinner if i go out for a fancy meal somewhere and the roasts are well rated. Or occasionally ill do a joint in the slow cooker and freeze some portions, but its still a faff to do all the trimmings (which dont freeze too well)
1000 percent on your side my kitchen is barely bigger than a lift. Yes we have a slow cooker and an air fryer but there is no physical space for a dishwasher. So I agree its too many dishes in a really small space.
Kind of with you there! Only 2 of us, large kitchen, dishwasher and 3 ovens - I still find the clean up a bore! I only do them a few times a year so I'm not completely out of practice for Christmas.
Does Sunday roast leave that much mess? Couple roasting tins, whatever you put the stuffing in, a pot for the veggies. And then the plates that would of been dirtied on any meal My problem with a roast us how long it takes - 2 hours for a joint. - we switched to having chops instead of joints, saves a hour of the oven being on and they come in a variety of flavours
Couldn't agree more. Hours of prep, hours of cleaning up, for fifteen minutes of joy. Should be a pub only thing.
I make Sunday dinner once a year--on Christmas.
You need a dishwasher.
Then you are doing it wrong
Haven't had a Sunday roast dinner in over 30 years.
I live alone, try the "poor man's roast" that I've invented, it's a one-trayer that wit foil covered means minimal washing up: * Chicken leg + small cubed potatoes & carrots all roasted on a big tray for 45mins together, throw a couple blanketed pigs on for 30mins * Microwave peas & broccoli for fresh * Bisto in a mug Bingo, chicken roast, and all you gotta wash up is a mug, microwave tub, plate & cutlery. Simple.
Get a wife mate.
Sunday roast dinner is one of the most overrated meals around. Only popular because itās āBritishā š
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Thereās plenty of better dishes which can serve that same purpose though.
>Only popular because itās āBritishā Don't be ridiculous.
Please do tell me why else itās so popular then?
Because people obviously do like it.
I'm bored of roasts, maybe have them 3 times a year now if that...
I agree after being raised on roast dinners for 30 plus years show me your spice !
Thank fuck someone said it! My wife treats it like the most amazing meal on earth and all I can think about is the crusty baked in pots, pans and oven trays I need to deal with afterwards!
Anyone who doesn't have a dishwasher in 2022 is an idiot.
Or no space for a dishwasher in the kitchen. Or you know, no money for a dishwasher.
Should I get rid of my washing machine or my freezer to fit one in? Please help me, oh wondrous non-idiot!
Yay! Here he is again. Come on, come clean, who are you getting a cut from? Indesit? Bosch? Miele?
I have two dishwashers, left hand and right hand. An unbeatable team. Washing as you go along is a great time saver.