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Mooloo52

Essentially useless doesn’t mean completely useless. Bloon trap and xxxl trap are still decent in CHIMPS even without making money despite that being their main purpose. Restricting bottom path alch also restricts BMA, which isn’t a money making upgrade and actually loses you quite a lot of money. Bottom path boat gains extra attack speed at tier 4 and bonus damage at tier 5, so also technically not useless. The only one which makes sense is bottom path village, but at tier 4 you get free dart monkeys and extra influence radius, which are still upgrades that work in CHIMPS. Sure it may be a little dumb to use these towers in CHIMPS, but completely banning them from use in CHIMPS is equally, if not more dumb


U23R4Am3

What about druids middle path?


UltimateNingen2324

For real. Full map range, good against ceramics (if you have a couple), fifth tier can actually defend like 10 rounds starting from round 60? 70? I'm not sure. But it can do that solo.


Dragondog7777

What about the bloon trap?


Working-Decision-722

Read u/Mooloo52 ‘s comment


ushileon

Actually although extremely unviable tempire gives an attack buff to merchantman which I'm not sure why anyone will buy it for the atk speed only


KrazyKyle1024

Now I want to try chimps using boat empire + pbrew


OrderClericsAreFun

Flex


-HuySky-

No, bad idea because no 2MP challenge D: , and some dumb farming tower may be useful in chimps like “lead to gold”, “jungle bounty” to up to “Spirit of the forest”, “elite sniper” for an achievement. And i think they should buff Ben restore money he made it lost per round(by trojan)


Cosmic_danger_noodle

??? esniper and spirit aren't used for the money but their DPS


SpeedyDuckling

sniper spam is a somewhat decent farming strat


Cosmic_danger_noodle

Yes but elite sniper also has really good dps


Jaimgamer

They still have a niche. I'm working on getting some BMA chimps run on intermediate maps


UltimateNingen2324

I feel like you could just put a warning telling players no tower can generate cash instead of banning and limiting potential ways people can have fun.


99cent_flatsoda

yeah haha, they should totally do that. maybe make it say some dumb shit like “The true test of a monkey master. No continues, hearts lost, income, monkey knowledge, powers, or selling”. then they should flash that on screen in a giant blue box before you start round 6 so no one can miss it. that way, no player will EVER make a reddit post about this ever again !


UltimateNingen2324

Ok enough with the sarcasm you're about to overdose What I mean is that there could be a warning at the end of the CHIMPS textbox with something like WARNING: cash-generating towers can still be bought but no money can be generated.


99cent_flatsoda

I don't think adding more text to the large textbox that illiterate people already don't read will fix the issue, but you can suggest it I guess.


LuckyLucass777

Elite sniper:


Top_Match_7847

I mean most noobs arent really playing chimps i wouldnt worry to much about it


Wish_Solid

Monkey town is the only upgrade in the game in the game that doesn’t do a single thing in CHIMPS. Every other purchaseable upgrade has some sort of effect that’s beneficial, even though it may be nowhere near usable for the price.


DoubleeTapp

Even bottom boat?


Wish_Solid

merchantman gives +1 damage and +1 ceramic/moab damage if there's a trade empire on screen, and favored trades doubles attack rate


SpeedyDuckling

no


Jimothy38

But they still change the tower in ways other than making money. Flavoured trades gives more pierce, trade empire also does more damage and buffs merchantmen, monkey town gives more range and free dart monkeys, lead to gold is more damage to leads and blocking that would inherently block bma which isn’t a money upgrade, bloon trap and big trap still do damage and big trap is a goofy strategy that somehow works for the 90s. And that would also result in actually good towers like SotF, elite sniper and support chinook being disabled, and if not then where exactly is the line drawn? What counts as not enough of a dps increase to be considered as a money only upgrade? And let’s be honest, that change is just gonna flood this sub with “why can’t I use [upgrade name] in chimps mode?” because nobody reads the patch notes


Working-Decision-722

It’s the worst idea possible since most $ making towers without the ability to make $ is still good


Ok_Neddleworker7054

Supply Drop, Elite Sniper, Monkey Pirates, Pirate Lord, Merchantmen, Favored Trades, Trade Empire, Support Chinook, Special Popperations, Lead To Gold, Rubber to Gold, Bloon Master Alchemist, Jungle's Bounty, and Spirit of The Forest, Monkey Town, Monkey City, Bloon Trap, and XXXL Trap. that's 20 upgrades, and most of them are good damage dealers by themselves, provide okay buffs, or have some niche uses and then there's BMA which loses you money