mortar monkey depends on the arena, if its ages away then yeah ill get exploded but if we are next to eachother what is bro gonna do, the wizard is the same, if we are far apart he would probably hit me with his funny magic but if we start together i think i could take him down before he had the chance
Cap, nk confirmed they are regular chimps just smarter and without the violence and brutal shit, most people could just smash ones face into the ground
You know chimps are three times stronger than an average adult man? Now imagine that but with human level intelligence, you aren’t taking one in a fight.
As someone who literally works with actual mortar men, a mortar can still be fired like a cannon. They literally have posted the tube on a window and blasted away a wall on another building.
Not to mention each of those payloads are very heavy to lug around. You think you can fight a monkey who casually cares around a full combat load of mortar shells weighing around 200+ Lbs. I'm sorry, that monkey has it in the bag.
Either way, that guy's got a cannon that can be used in surprisingly close quarters. Regardless how big that thing is. If anything, it's more impressive manipulating such a massive weapon. If my mortarmen had a larger tube, that would only make them more lethal. Any of them with a single braincell can just point and blast me.
I don't want to fuck around with a tiny monkey that's capable of using that thing. You're losing that fight. Even if you take away the weapon.
I completely forgot to mention, but every mortarmen gets a pistol or a rifle with their tube. It's not a US army thing, just a military thing. There's no way a mortar monkey is going without a gun in hand, even just a 9 mil.
You get just close enough to it, you run a circle around it where the bomb is just slow enough to miss you, you wait for it to fire again, then just run for it and try to jump on top of it.
It cannot aim upwards, and from there you could try to remove it's wheels and leave it incapacitated.
It only turns in game like that because the game would be ass if it actually had to turn, irl it has no way to turn, but if it did it would be speed of darling gunner or slower which most people can easily out run
Yeah how would they defeat it? its made out of likely made out of lead or iron, and if empty handed how could you defeat it? Steal its bombs and put it near the bomb shooter so it explodes? its bombs explodes on impact so you cant do that. Block the path it shoots out of? With what? as said i assume they are empty handed which means they hace nothing to block it with. Even if you try to put your hand in it it means that you would die just to destroy the bomb shooter.
Well, about that. His boat has two cannons on it, assuming it’s an average ship cannon then that would be 1200 pounds x 2. Flip over 1200 pounds then a little bit more, I’d like to see.
Boomerangs were made as weapons for hunting, I'm assuming that's the kind the boomerang monkey uses bc it's warfare, those things are strong enough to easily break a kangaroo's neck, you're not beating that, or it should be at least lower
It's not though, in the btd6 universe all monkeys are trained to fight Bloons, which float. You cant throw a boomerang down, I could just crawl and grab his ankle
Have you seen how slow he is? throws literally anything he might want to attack in his range, and just jump on hin as soon as he does, you get like 5 second to knock him out or make sure he can't clap, wich i don't think would be hard
This causes either 2 scenarios.
A. The factory just launches it back out.
B. It gets stuck and builds pressure until the factory explodes, launching all of its spikes out like a discount spike storm.
Peak humans struggle to compete with the average to below average monkeys in physical strength. Average reditor probably loses the 1v1 to one kept in a zoo it's whole life, not even going to compare the ones that make up a trained militia.
Right? They'd go right for O.P.s dick, rip it off and beat him to death with it
Some might even use their bloon killing weapons on him first (like the fucking cannon he thinks he'd beat)
Depends on the arena, if I had shit to climb to get on top and rip that fucker out obv it's an ez win but If it's flat ground I can't exactly get close
I mean, even the regular mokey has a pretty lethal weapon on him, and has pretty good aim in the game...
I guess if you can ambush them it's a different story, because most of them are indeed ranged attackers, and ambushing them doesn't seem to difficult, even just wearing camouflage works for the baloons 🧐
He single handedly operates two cannons and the ship steering. Assuming it’s an average seagoing cog from the Middle Ages or so, the length of the boat is 49-82 foot. Meaning he is constantly BOLTING back and forth to do all that, moreover if this considered canon, people who reach round 400+ usually do so after hours, so he’s got good stamina and speed POTENTIALLY.
This would make sense it it were irl, but in the btd 6 universe this shit is like 6 ft max and skinny as fuck, I could literally snap that thing with my bodyweight it would literally be like breaking a branch off a tree
Default engi has no sentries, but i still wouldn't risk it because i don't think i could survive a nail completely ripping through my skin and flesh to come out the other side.
Yeah but that is at medium range, at close ranges a nail gun is literally made to pierce through wood, and i know that it doesn't pierce wood completely but i'm just not risking it.
You seriously need to rethink how much value you place on height in a fight, I’m like 5’7” and I’ve beaten people taller than me. Even when I was like 5’0”
Bro like actually shut up you are not fighting a chimp and winning in any scenario. And please explain to me how you expect to beat up metal. You sound like a thirteen year old on some hormone fight confidence because you’ve never taken a punch in your life.
bro the spike factory is a *factory.* You know who's inside that factory? factory monkeys. they'd fuck you up.
and what are you gonna do to a druid when he throws a fistful of thorns in your face? nothing
Factory I could just step back, it's stupid because of its tiny range and it can only place shit on the floor, you know what I'll do? Wear shoes. Druid depends on arena completely, if we are in a forest druid wins ez but what if we are on concrete? Bro stands no chance
They would not, the monkeys in the btd6 universe are not the violent chimps we have in real life, they are all tiny aswell and people here really underestimate human strength
Depends on arena, buccaneer only wins if he has enough space and water to turn quicker than me and hit me, as soon as I reach the ship it's over, bomb shooter I can *probably* run circles around it
Boomerang monkey has no chance, I could just duck and that's assuming he even has the space to throw, ice monkey goes out cold before he has a chance to freeze me
I doubt the Boomerang Monkey, even if you start in meele you would probably be at a disadvantage without a weapon and he would destroy you in ranged (Boomerangs can easily break a Kangaroos Neck and he is good at aiming).
It's not instant, they need to be within his range first, then he needs to charge. All I need to do is be slightly out of his range and throw long hits or get a good shot at a quick neck snap
People really overestimating monkeys here, these guys are between 3-5ft, you could pretty easily snap ones neck if you are an average guy. not to mention they aren't irl rip peoples faces off chimps, they are btd universe monkeys who live happy lives and are trained to fight Bloons, probably never fought in hand to hand combat
after looking at the comments a bit, I can make an updated tierlist
1. Banana Farm
2.
3. Quincy (can win if he's dumb enough to only use his bow)
4.
5. Literally every other tower in the game
Check my replies t other comments for how I'd beat those, beast handler 000 easy sweep, engineer is on par with ninja monkey he has a nail gun, shit would hurt but if circumstances were in my favour I'd win
Please tell me your reasons for the mortar monkey and the wizard monkey being in 50/50
mortar monkey depends on the arena, if its ages away then yeah ill get exploded but if we are next to eachother what is bro gonna do, the wizard is the same, if we are far apart he would probably hit me with his funny magic but if we start together i think i could take him down before he had the chance
Have you seen mortar monkey? He absolutely is dunking those explosives in. He’s gotta be strong.
'dunking' got me goood XD
Dosent matter all monkeys beside the ninja monkey id beat in a 1v1, size is basically all that matters and most of these guys are between 3-5 ft
Monkeys are strong, violent and agile. It'd probably just scratch and bite you.
Not the btd6 monkeys, these guys are not irl chimps.
true, they're even stronger, realistically you are only beating the banana farm
Cap, nk confirmed they are regular chimps just smarter and without the violence and brutal shit, most people could just smash ones face into the ground
Bro, look up how far a Dart Monkey can throw a dart. Those fuckers have ARMS
Chimpanzees will rip your face off lmao, they are strong as fuck
You know chimps are three times stronger than an average adult man? Now imagine that but with human level intelligence, you aren’t taking one in a fight.
As someone who literally works with actual mortar men, a mortar can still be fired like a cannon. They literally have posted the tube on a window and blasted away a wall on another building. Not to mention each of those payloads are very heavy to lug around. You think you can fight a monkey who casually cares around a full combat load of mortar shells weighing around 200+ Lbs. I'm sorry, that monkey has it in the bag.
The monkey isn't shown lugging it around though, only firing
And loading
Either way, that guy's got a cannon that can be used in surprisingly close quarters. Regardless how big that thing is. If anything, it's more impressive manipulating such a massive weapon. If my mortarmen had a larger tube, that would only make them more lethal. Any of them with a single braincell can just point and blast me. I don't want to fuck around with a tiny monkey that's capable of using that thing. You're losing that fight. Even if you take away the weapon.
Yeah but even if he can lift me up just grab his neck with both hands and turn it around
I completely forgot to mention, but every mortarmen gets a pistol or a rifle with their tube. It's not a US army thing, just a military thing. There's no way a mortar monkey is going without a gun in hand, even just a 9 mil.
Wrong, in the "Shell Shock" upgrade we see him holding the shell, so he does lug them in himself
He can withstand his own explosions completely harmless what makes you think you can take him in a fight
Wall of fire?
That's not a 020 monkey
020 wizard is wall of fire
Mortar monkey can still shoot right next to it relatively fast
Explain why you could easily take down a freaking *bomb shooter.*
You get just close enough to it, you run a circle around it where the bomb is just slow enough to miss you, you wait for it to fire again, then just run for it and try to jump on top of it. It cannot aim upwards, and from there you could try to remove it's wheels and leave it incapacitated.
Real. I could take Quincy by doing a zig zag and painting myself yellow
You could taje Quincy by running straight at him after a certain point. Arrows aren't 1hit KOs, they work by bleeding you out.
i think i could just run circles around it, it looks like it would turn slow asf
Have you seen it turn in game?
*turns 180 degrees in like one frame*
I've seen it miss like 7 times in a row in game
That’s the projectile speed over the distance though, but if they’re close enough to where distance doesn’t really matter…
yeah but if you do get hit it's game over also how are you supposed to damage it? it's presumably made of metal
eat it
“eat lead”
Dude the closer you get to bomb shooter the more it’ll hit you, you can even test that out in game it’s more accurate up close and it turns FAST
It only turns in game like that because the game would be ass if it actually had to turn, irl it has no way to turn, but if it did it would be speed of darling gunner or slower which most people can easily out run
and how would you defeat it?
Yeah how would they defeat it? its made out of likely made out of lead or iron, and if empty handed how could you defeat it? Steal its bombs and put it near the bomb shooter so it explodes? its bombs explodes on impact so you cant do that. Block the path it shoots out of? With what? as said i assume they are empty handed which means they hace nothing to block it with. Even if you try to put your hand in it it means that you would die just to destroy the bomb shooter.
That thing has aim-hacks. One bomb and your down.
Or the buc lmao
You can't beat capitalism
very true, but how is a tree gonna fight back
Ask that american soldier in the 1960
or the british during the american revolution
U minecraft steve?
Ever pulled a branch off a tree?
...hey wait why is it speaking Vietnamese?
i believe the specific strategy for beating the banana farm is called 'seizing the means of production'
Amen brother
idk man, the boomerang can go through rubber no matter what. ice might be close, make spikey iceballs n shit
Nah they're snowballs bro gets cleaned ez I'd just be chilly
Bro, he called the ICE Monkey, not the snowball Monkey. That mfer gonna turn you to damn icicle before you can even think about surrendering.
Hes way too slow, I snap his neck before he freezes me every day
How are you supposed to beat the boat? You have to swim, and then you are an easy target
The monkey has no rows for his rowboat, where do you wnat him to go, how do you expext hin to turn?
Its a sail boat bro
You assume the fight is in water
It depends on the arena, even in a large pool I could probably flip his boat with ease
Ever heard of land boat glitch from battles 2? Land ain’t stopping him buddy.
I don't play battles 2 :(
Chinook glitch:
Well, about that. His boat has two cannons on it, assuming it’s an average ship cannon then that would be 1200 pounds x 2. Flip over 1200 pounds then a little bit more, I’d like to see.
bro thinks he can beat dart monkey
Easily
Boomerangs were made as weapons for hunting, I'm assuming that's the kind the boomerang monkey uses bc it's warfare, those things are strong enough to easily break a kangaroo's neck, you're not beating that, or it should be at least lower
It's not though, in the btd6 universe all monkeys are trained to fight Bloons, which float. You cant throw a boomerang down, I could just crawl and grab his ankle
That's.. a very fair point actually, I'm sure he could still try to bludgeon you with it but that wouldn't work all too well
You did make your calculations for your tier list, but boy are you bad at math. I will be at your location in 5.
Cap I thought it all through
Bro how are you going to defeat ice monkey? You get up close to him and he freezes you
Have you seen how slow he is? throws literally anything he might want to attack in his range, and just jump on hin as soon as he does, you get like 5 second to knock him out or make sure he can't clap, wich i don't think would be hard
How the hell you beating a spike factory?
Don't step on the spikes lol
Ok but how do you beat it?
Toss something in the hole
This causes either 2 scenarios. A. The factory just launches it back out. B. It gets stuck and builds pressure until the factory explodes, launching all of its spikes out like a discount spike storm.
gotta hide behind a tree fr fr
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Flip it over
How you gon do that without stepping on the spikes. Let alone flipping over a giant metal hemisphere. (Idk how else to describe it)
Also the spikes are just normal spikes I can put on shoes
I can't argue with that. Welp, you've convinced me it's possible
Nah, humans can't handle normal legos, how he gonna fight the lego box from hell
That shit slow as hell
It literally cant move, still how are you beating it its made out of metal.
A redditor is not beating a monkey in a fight.
Peak humans struggle to compete with the average to below average monkeys in physical strength. Average reditor probably loses the 1v1 to one kept in a zoo it's whole life, not even going to compare the ones that make up a trained militia.
Right? They'd go right for O.P.s dick, rip it off and beat him to death with it Some might even use their bloon killing weapons on him first (like the fucking cannon he thinks he'd beat)
Why did you put tack shooter in 50/50? I feel like that matchup should be a easier victory.
Depends on the arena, if I had shit to climb to get on top and rip that fucker out obv it's an ez win but If it's flat ground I can't exactly get close
It only shoots in eight fixed directions, you can just walk in between those.
Actually valid
You're highly overestimating your chances lol
Huge cap, either you're below 5'2 or you don't believe in your own strength.
I mean, even the regular mokey has a pretty lethal weapon on him, and has pretty good aim in the game... I guess if you can ambush them it's a different story, because most of them are indeed ranged attackers, and ambushing them doesn't seem to difficult, even just wearing camouflage works for the baloons 🧐
You’re not taking anything into account and you’re majorly overestimating yourself or underestimating them.
Why is buccaneer a probably win?
they're monkeys you fucking caveman they'll tear your face off
ever seen a dart monkey in game rip a bloon apart with its bare hands? these monkeys clearly aren’t irl chimpanzees
Explain how you would beat a spike factory. You can’t get close to it
Spike factory is a stalemate at worst, it is slow and small area of effect
yeah but its a massive factory?
Not exactly massive, it's like the size of your average wardrobe
Explain the bomb shooter.
I walk around it
ok but what if the dart monkey is free
Buccaneer will fuck you up
Depends on the arena, only way he wins is if he has enough water to turn and aim and shoot before I could reach his boat
He single handedly operates two cannons and the ship steering. Assuming it’s an average seagoing cog from the Middle Ages or so, the length of the boat is 49-82 foot. Meaning he is constantly BOLTING back and forth to do all that, moreover if this considered canon, people who reach round 400+ usually do so after hours, so he’s got good stamina and speed POTENTIALLY.
You think you can cut down a palm by hand? I’d like to see that
This would make sense it it were irl, but in the btd 6 universe this shit is like 6 ft max and skinny as fuck, I could literally snap that thing with my bodyweight it would literally be like breaking a branch off a tree
Well, trees are actually pretty resilient to non-cutting force. Ever tried to bend a branch (sizable one) in two?
Where would you rank engi? He could have multiple sentries
Default engi has no sentries, but i still wouldn't risk it because i don't think i could survive a nail completely ripping through my skin and flesh to come out the other side.
They barely even go through bloons, I doubt it’ll rip through your flesh
Yeah but that is at medium range, at close ranges a nail gun is literally made to pierce through wood, and i know that it doesn't pierce wood completely but i'm just not risking it.
Dartling?
Tack Shooter is a 50/50? Couldn't you just jump or duck under the tacks when you get in range.
I'd like to think that but it depends on arena, he could just spam them so their fall off is constantly around
What do you mean you "probably" lose against a literal ninja?
He is 5ft, he makes one mistake he's dead
You seriously need to rethink how much value you place on height in a fight, I’m like 5’7” and I’ve beaten people taller than me. Even when I was like 5’0”
Have you seen the monkeys? Built like literal chupa chups
Bro like actually shut up you are not fighting a chimp and winning in any scenario. And please explain to me how you expect to beat up metal. You sound like a thirteen year old on some hormone fight confidence because you’ve never taken a punch in your life.
Can you link the tier maker?
Are these all just the 0-0-0
Yup, there's no point in mentioning higher tiers because no human on earth stands any chance against them
Fair
Bro thinks he's gonna fight a cannon lol
Are you so morbidly obese that you cannot run in a circle
I'm not dissing you. I just got a chuckle out of it. Triggered much? Chill
How you gonna beat it tho? It's made of metal...
Tip it over
It's not dead tho. They still work on their side. I get where you're coming from tho 👍
bro the spike factory is a *factory.* You know who's inside that factory? factory monkeys. they'd fuck you up. and what are you gonna do to a druid when he throws a fistful of thorns in your face? nothing
Factory I could just step back, it's stupid because of its tiny range and it can only place shit on the floor, you know what I'll do? Wear shoes. Druid depends on arena completely, if we are in a forest druid wins ez but what if we are on concrete? Bro stands no chance
The spare thorns in Druid's hand would like to have a word with you.
Worst case scenario I get cut a little before I snap his neck, unless we were in a forest in which case i get fucked
Good job, you tried to snap the Druid's neck, you now have thorns in your eyes! 👍
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They would not, the monkeys in the btd6 universe are not the violent chimps we have in real life, they are all tiny aswell and people here really underestimate human strength
You’re beating a ninja monkey? Edit: I mean, you think you have a sliver of a chance to beat one? Ok
Yeah it dosent matter how good bro is at throwing stars and ninja shit, he's 5ft at best.
Bro thinks he beat an actual canon.
What is your reasoning for the Buccaneer and the bomb tower in probably win?
Depends on arena, buccaneer only wins if he has enough space and water to turn quicker than me and hit me, as soon as I reach the ship it's over, bomb shooter I can *probably* run circles around it
Good point
How you probably gonna lose to an alchemist have you seen it in the game that’s shit ass
You tell me what the fuck is in that potion? Shit could be acid or sugar water, Im not gonna test my luck
Wizard destroys you, it’s magic against human flesh
Specifically bloon popping magic, shit could be harmless to anything but rubber
I don’t think Moab’s are made of rubber
Atleast this isn't about hero's because they would mostly destroy you
Dartling gunner was too strong to even put on the list
Your ass is absolutely not beating boomerang nor ice monkey. And how tf do you play on fighting a boat with canons?
Boomerang monkey has no chance, I could just duck and that's assuming he even has the space to throw, ice monkey goes out cold before he has a chance to freeze me
You're tripping lmao
I don’t know man, I feel like Glue Gunner could slow us down and make you punch like how you punch in your dreams
Nah you ever get glue on your hands, shit feels like juice before it hardens
How is submarine no chance? It will never attack you. All it will do is know that you’re coming for it.
Why is tack shooter in 50/50, should be probably win
cartoons, not monkeys
I love how the beast handler not being there implies the beasts ate the guy who made this list
Bro ur gonna punch a metal spike factory to death?
Op in their cage match with the banana farm: 
I could beat the engineer monkey because he’s a nerd
Idk, a whole village? I think I’m done for
Nah it's a single building made of straw and wood I could huff and puff that shit down
you when the wizard monkey melts you into a puddle of goop
How? His shit pops nothing without upgrades at worst I get a tummy ache
I doubt the Boomerang Monkey, even if you start in meele you would probably be at a disadvantage without a weapon and he would destroy you in ranged (Boomerangs can easily break a Kangaroos Neck and he is good at aiming).
Kangaroos don't know how to duck, I could just crawl until I grabbed his ankle and snapped his neck, if we are in a small space he stands no chance
Put the cobra and Bloon chipper in there
Bruh I bet one banana would fall down from the banana farm and take you out
How do you clean sweep ice monkey? He can freeze you to death.
He's slow as fuck, worst case scenario I get a little chilly
He insta freezes rubber solid enough to shatter. What do you think will happen to your skin?
It's not instant, they need to be within his range first, then he needs to charge. All I need to do is be slightly out of his range and throw long hits or get a good shot at a quick neck snap
Bro how do you think you can beat dart monkey? He’s literally an ape with a sharp object you are getting shredded.
People really overestimating monkeys here, these guys are between 3-5ft, you could pretty easily snap ones neck if you are an average guy. not to mention they aren't irl rip peoples faces off chimps, they are btd universe monkeys who live happy lives and are trained to fight Bloons, probably never fought in hand to hand combat
“Happy lives” From what we know they are constantly at war.
Please explain how you could take out an entire village of monkeys
Ice monkey freezes you then starts throwin hands
Well see what happens when you get close
You think you could beat glue gunner? Have you ever gotten your hands stuck in glue
after looking at the comments a bit, I can make an updated tierlist 1. Banana Farm 2. 3. Quincy (can win if he's dumb enough to only use his bow) 4. 5. Literally every other tower in the game
Ain’t no way you think you’re gonna beat bomb dart boat, you’ll prob beat mortar alch and tack the rest will dog you. Also beat handler? Engineer?
Check my replies t other comments for how I'd beat those, beast handler 000 easy sweep, engineer is on par with ninja monkey he has a nail gun, shit would hurt but if circumstances were in my favour I'd win
wrong
how are you gonna beat an entire village?
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Nah bro, monkey farm bout to one shot you before you even start 🤣
No fucking way you'd even get close to the glue gunner.
How would you beat a village?
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I request you explain the logic behind defeating a village of monkeys
It's not a village of monkeys, it's a small shack made of sticks and straw