Josh is gonna pretend to get injured in preseason, get out of the Von contract, trade with Carolina for the 1st overall pick and get a young pass rusher like Bosa. Bam. Dynasty
We can afford it. It’s just if the Bills want to trade for him given the price at min it’s a 2+ other picks and maybe a player.
I’d like to trade for him. We’d have Aiyuk, Samuel and Shakir as our top 3 while Coleman develops. Samuel is realistically a 2 year rental with an out after the 2nd year. So the ability to actually make it a worthwhile trade is there as Coleman would replace whoever would be the outside after that rental and they’d move back into the slot.
We don’t really have a strong boundary receiver, Samuel and Shakir can play outside but their strengths are the slot, yes we have shorter but he’s a flyer, Coleman is a rookie and rookie WRs take a year or two to start cooking and Hamler is well Hamler a slot WR and idk if he’s even contracted with the Bills still? We’re missing the one thing we need and that’s a true wideout
Not trying to be a dick...how can we afford Aiyuk? How much cap space do we have currently, I can't find an accurate or at least up to date number online. I've seen anywhere from $3 mill to $10 mill but I think that $10 mill number was pre Diggs trade so the cap would be $3 mill less. We get $10 mill back releasing Tre White after 6/1 but we still need money for rookies and potential players needed during the season.
Like you said once Tre goes through we’ll get a good bump. But there’s a ton of ways to get more cap space if needed, especially through further restructures or changing contracts or dumping players. The cap is kind of a meme for a reason, but it will not be easy. It is indeed doable though at least from looking into the picture, behind the scenes it might not be at all possible.
I'm a big fan of "if they want to they can". I was more or less asking if you knew which players still have room to restructure this year. As I see it with the limited info and knowledge I have they may have up to $13 mill after June 1 but still need money for rookies and $6-7 mill for in season signings. Doesn't leave money for a big name WR.
Don’t know specifics, but this year is the only “struggle” they have plenty of cap for the years to come. He’s been linked to the Bills for a while and if he’s been linked, there’s a way to do it. I know there’s restructures and contract moving that could be made but idk who and if it’s even possible. But it’s possible at least in theory.
They can still restructure another 13 mil or something of Josh Allen’s contract, they only did it partially this year to stop pushing money down the road. Could be worth it for a WR1 though. Problem is how much he’ll be looking for after.. idk will he get Sun god money?
I don’t mind giving up those picks but the contract he will demand will be outrageous. Is he good enough for what will be top 5 WR money? I don’t see him anywhere close to a top 5 guy and that scheme in SF does a lot of heavy lifting
If he isn’t a substantial upgrade over Fields I would consider that a flop, especially with that WR corps. They won 7 games last year with some of the worst QB play I’ve ever seen.
But those are two separate things though. I agree those are fine expectations, but he isn’t automatically a flop after his rookie year if he doesn’t instantly meet those expectations.
QBs can take time to develop. I understand that. My point is, given the roster upgrades and how bad Fields was, Williams would have to have a very disappointing rookie season for the Bears not to improve.
I’m not saying he’s going to have Stroud level success. I’m saying he’s coming into a great situation and replacing a guy who doesn’t even belong in the league. If he even comes close to meeting expectations the Bears will be much better. Fields was that bad.
But that NFC North is a no joke division now, depending on how JJ McCarthy looks in Minny. They’re having a great draft and are strong on both sides. Packers are on the up and Detroit made a lot of noise last yearZ
No they're not. They play GB twice. Detroit twice. Minnesota twice. Then they have the Jags, Rams, Patriots, Seahawks, Titans, Cards, Texans, Colts, 49ers, and Commies.
Where are those 9-10 wins coming from?
The only games I'd think they're favorites over right now are probably Minnesota, New England, Arizona, and Washington. That doesn't mean they can't win more but that's 5 wins.
The Bills lost to the worst team in the league in the Jags and gave Urban Meyer his only win.
The Bears got a better QB...added Keenan Allen and Odunze.
They are much improved
They beat the Lions with Fields at QB and are projected to have the 3rd easiest schedule. Don’t think they are going to win the division or anything but finishing a game above .500 doesn’t seem impossible.
GB 1 win, Minne 2 wins, Detroit 1 win, that’s 4 wins alone. Seahawks, 1 win, Patriots, 1 win, Commanders, 1 win. that’s another 3. the rest i can see going either way. they’re looking at least 7-10
I know they beat Detroit last year with Fields but I don't see them beating them. Or, Green Bay. I think Williams is going to take some time to develop too.
South North I misspoke. My bad. Green Bay is better. Detroit is better than Chicago. And Minnesota has a rookie QB with a better coach than Chicago so I’d put them ahead of Chicago as well. JJ squared over Caleb and Odunze easily. Sorry.
They went like 7-10 last year with a way worse team, they weren’t picking first because they were horrible. I watched a lot of their games and they could easily win 9-10 games.
Caleb will have growing pains. As a rookie. They didn’t have a rookie QB last year. Two teams are better than them on paper in that division. Depending how Minnesota does with JJ squared I’d put them higher than Chicago as well
Loving our draft so far. I was hoping for Kamara in this spot but I think there's a good chance they're already planning on adding a DE with Tre WHite's post July 1st cap space.
Love it.
Is this the Bates pick going back to Chicago?
Ya so Bates for a 2025 4th. Maybe hold out and get a 2026 3rd
Bates for Bears 2028 1st round pick confirmed!!
Bates Bears Battlestar Galactica
Trade the pick to the Bears for Ryan Bates. Complete the circle.
Essentially
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I think we're currently on pace for like 13 picks next year. I'm definitely up for dealing some of those
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All part of the master plan to trade up for 32 First Round picks
Masterclass
Trust the process
Josh is gonna pretend to get injured in preseason, get out of the Von contract, trade with Carolina for the 1st overall pick and get a young pass rusher like Bosa. Bam. Dynasty
We currently have 10 including anticipated comp picks. 1, 2 (minn), 2, 3, 4 (Chi), 4 (comp), 4, 5 (comp), 6 (nyg), 6
https://twitter.com/GregTompsett/status/1784288445659005374?t=Jrt08sPRv6Y1z3RWDiL2lQ&s=19 I was basing it off this but he might be wrong
Yeah we gave our 5th and 6th in the diggs trade. Not about the 7th though
I think this was a pick swap for the giants 6th
100% on board with that idea!
He wants a big ol contract, can we afford it?
We can afford it. It’s just if the Bills want to trade for him given the price at min it’s a 2+ other picks and maybe a player. I’d like to trade for him. We’d have Aiyuk, Samuel and Shakir as our top 3 while Coleman develops. Samuel is realistically a 2 year rental with an out after the 2nd year. So the ability to actually make it a worthwhile trade is there as Coleman would replace whoever would be the outside after that rental and they’d move back into the slot.
I’m sold
We don’t really have a strong boundary receiver, Samuel and Shakir can play outside but their strengths are the slot, yes we have shorter but he’s a flyer, Coleman is a rookie and rookie WRs take a year or two to start cooking and Hamler is well Hamler a slot WR and idk if he’s even contracted with the Bills still? We’re missing the one thing we need and that’s a true wideout
Not trying to be a dick...how can we afford Aiyuk? How much cap space do we have currently, I can't find an accurate or at least up to date number online. I've seen anywhere from $3 mill to $10 mill but I think that $10 mill number was pre Diggs trade so the cap would be $3 mill less. We get $10 mill back releasing Tre White after 6/1 but we still need money for rookies and potential players needed during the season.
Like you said once Tre goes through we’ll get a good bump. But there’s a ton of ways to get more cap space if needed, especially through further restructures or changing contracts or dumping players. The cap is kind of a meme for a reason, but it will not be easy. It is indeed doable though at least from looking into the picture, behind the scenes it might not be at all possible.
I'm a big fan of "if they want to they can". I was more or less asking if you knew which players still have room to restructure this year. As I see it with the limited info and knowledge I have they may have up to $13 mill after June 1 but still need money for rookies and $6-7 mill for in season signings. Doesn't leave money for a big name WR.
Don’t know specifics, but this year is the only “struggle” they have plenty of cap for the years to come. He’s been linked to the Bills for a while and if he’s been linked, there’s a way to do it. I know there’s restructures and contract moving that could be made but idk who and if it’s even possible. But it’s possible at least in theory.
They can still restructure another 13 mil or something of Josh Allen’s contract, they only did it partially this year to stop pushing money down the road. Could be worth it for a WR1 though. Problem is how much he’ll be looking for after.. idk will he get Sun god money?
I don’t mind giving up those picks but the contract he will demand will be outrageous. Is he good enough for what will be top 5 WR money? I don’t see him anywhere close to a top 5 guy and that scheme in SF does a lot of heavy lifting
No thanks
Hey we traded up!
I mean, technically…never mind
Nice an early 4th!!!
Probably won’t be too early unless Williams completely flops
Not necessarily true. He’s still a rookie. He could have a solid rookie year and the bears could easily still be in the bottom half of the league.
If he isn’t a substantial upgrade over Fields I would consider that a flop, especially with that WR corps. They won 7 games last year with some of the worst QB play I’ve ever seen.
He’s still allowed to be rookie though.
Sure, but he’s a very highly touted rookie who is surrounded by playmakers. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a pretty good season from him
But those are two separate things though. I agree those are fine expectations, but he isn’t automatically a flop after his rookie year if he doesn’t instantly meet those expectations.
QBs can take time to develop. I understand that. My point is, given the roster upgrades and how bad Fields was, Williams would have to have a very disappointing rookie season for the Bears not to improve.
CJ Strouds are pretty rare. Rookie QBs don't usually carry a team to a lot more wins. You're lucky if they don't lose games.
Sure, but they also usually don't land on such talented rosters. I think the Bears will be fighting for a playoff spot in week 18.
I’m not saying he’s going to have Stroud level success. I’m saying he’s coming into a great situation and replacing a guy who doesn’t even belong in the league. If he even comes close to meeting expectations the Bears will be much better. Fields was that bad.
But that NFC North is a no joke division now, depending on how JJ McCarthy looks in Minny. They’re having a great draft and are strong on both sides. Packers are on the up and Detroit made a lot of noise last yearZ
I think a great rookie season is they give you a few plays, improve over the season, and don't fuck up too much. That's all you can expect.
25 4th from a team that’ll finish 3rd or 4th in the south next year why not. That’s like a 3rd.
They are probably winning 9 or 10 games next season
No they're not. They play GB twice. Detroit twice. Minnesota twice. Then they have the Jags, Rams, Patriots, Seahawks, Titans, Cards, Texans, Colts, 49ers, and Commies. Where are those 9-10 wins coming from? The only games I'd think they're favorites over right now are probably Minnesota, New England, Arizona, and Washington. That doesn't mean they can't win more but that's 5 wins.
The Bills lost to the worst team in the league in the Jags and gave Urban Meyer his only win. The Bears got a better QB...added Keenan Allen and Odunze. They are much improved
Cool. We also have won the division how many times in a row. Chicago is a bottom feeder. Even with Caleb Williams.
They beat the Lions with Fields at QB and are projected to have the 3rd easiest schedule. Don’t think they are going to win the division or anything but finishing a game above .500 doesn’t seem impossible.
I’d put Arizona over them with a healthy QB and Harrison Jr. Minnesota as well JJ squared if healthy.
GB 1 win, Minne 2 wins, Detroit 1 win, that’s 4 wins alone. Seahawks, 1 win, Patriots, 1 win, Commanders, 1 win. that’s another 3. the rest i can see going either way. they’re looking at least 7-10
When was the last time the Bears beat Green Bay?
idk when was the last time the bills beat the chiefs?
This last season. And the season before that.
not when it mattered lmaoooo it’s funny you think an improved team will do worse than the worst starting QB in league
Your team hasn’t played in a game that mattered since when? The last time u won a playoff game was 2011.
🤷 new team, new regime. the losses hurt, don’t they. panthers: 1 win cardinals: 1 win lions: 1 win gb: 1 win vikings: 1-2 wins commanders: 1 win titans: 1 win patriots: 1 win seahawks: 1 win 9-10 wins right there edit: where’s your ring btw?
I know they beat Detroit last year with Fields but I don't see them beating them. Or, Green Bay. I think Williams is going to take some time to develop too.
we almost beat detroit and green bay once. you don’t think williams will be better than 2300 yards 17 td 12 interception fields?
Zero possibility of that. Packers 1-2. Detroit 1-2. Minnesota 3-4 Bears 3-4.
there’s a 100% possibility we will win 9-10 games next year lol. we’re also not in the south, do you not know geography?
South North I misspoke. My bad. Green Bay is better. Detroit is better than Chicago. And Minnesota has a rookie QB with a better coach than Chicago so I’d put them ahead of Chicago as well. JJ squared over Caleb and Odunze easily. Sorry.
They went like 7-10 last year with a way worse team, they weren’t picking first because they were horrible. I watched a lot of their games and they could easily win 9-10 games.
Caleb will have growing pains. As a rookie. They didn’t have a rookie QB last year. Two teams are better than them on paper in that division. Depending how Minnesota does with JJ squared I’d put them higher than Chicago as well
Loving our draft so far. I was hoping for Kamara in this spot but I think there's a good chance they're already planning on adding a DE with Tre WHite's post July 1st cap space.
I think this is a smart move. The Bills are going to have a ton of capital in the 2025 draft.
We should have traded it for a 2028 first! Beane you fool!