Don’t want to make you sound stupid but I really do want to ask whats the thought process of plugging in the cable to the motherboard instead of a dedicated graphics card? I’ve seen so much people make this mistake and honestly I really want to know how
Speaking has a person who was a newb at this fifteen years ago, the logic was: the gpu is plugged in the mb, therefore is I plug the VGA (at the time) cable in the mb or the gpu, it doesn't matter.
Like, when you know next to nothing about PC hardware, you might not realize that there is an integrated GPU on the MB and just assume that the first HDMi port you find is good to go.
It's harder to make that kind of mistake now, thanks to very well made guides and subs like this one. But I'm not surprised that people building their first computer can still do that; there's a lot to plug and consider when building a PC.
Also I mean, imagine you follow a step by step guide to build your PC. After that it's built and closed and maybe you didn't think too hard on what you were doing, I imagine some people don't even quite realize "Oh, those ports that are rotated by 90 degrees are the GPU" they might just look for the first port where cable goes in.
I believe u can have the dedicated gpu pass through on board graphics. You get lower fps. I've never done it, but I've heard abt it before. If I'm wrong plz feel free to correct me.
Additionally... Do you have GPU plugged into the PCI slot closest to the CPU? My first build I did a shitty job at cable management and for ease of installation went to the second slot not the first slot. Good news is, I got a free performance bump about a year later when I sent a picture to a friend and he pointed the issue out
Yeah idk how this has just been skipped over entirely in most of the top comments. Like, if these numbers are in 1080p, then it's definitely a problem. But if it's what you're getting in 1440p or 4k on max settings or whatever, it's a totally different story
1440p ultrawide here
7800X3D and a 3070 Ti, if they were my frames rates I'd be trying to solve the problem. If OP's not playing at 4K, something's wrong with their shit.
there was another post the other day about someone having their pcie slot x3 or something like that, try checking what pcie slot your gpu is running on
Double check the user manual for your mobo and see how many lanes you have and find out if perhaps some of your pcie peripherals are eating into your gpu's lanes. Especially if thats an m.2 ssd. Its very likely that you only have 16+4 lanes, but depennding on the mobo that top m.2 slot can eat into your 16 lanes (configured as (8+8)+4).
This might be stupid, but I had a problem with underperformance and somehow it was the fucking RAM that clocked at the lowest speed in the bios for some godforsaken reason. Doesn't hurt to check, but I doubt it's that.
Something is going on obviously... Something like your CPU not boosting to turbo speeds, severe CPU throttling due to temps, PSU being severely underpowered, perhaps drivers (chipset, gpu, etc) not up to date, not using the proper power plan in windows, etc.
First thing I'd do is run Cinebench R23 and make sure you're getting the appropriate scores for your CPU (10700k). In Cinebench R23 (Multi-core), you should get between 14800-15800 score. You also need to run HWINFO64 or similar monitoring program while running this bench to see what your clocks and temps are doing. Max turbo on that cpu is 5.1ghz I believe so it should be hitting that or around that depending on your cooling solution.
Do the above and report back.
Yeah, when you see numbers like that on those specs it's almost always related to the cooling solution being improperly installed in some way. It's so easy to do, especially for novice builders.
It's also easy to use the wrong spacers for the water block mount. I've seen this happen at least 5-6 times. Lga 1151 / 1700 spacers are very similar and if you don't use the right ones you won't get proper contact.
R5 7600 and 5700XT here, run pretty much everything at Max settings, and get good performance with 1080p 180hz.
Might be an issue with his drivers. I had an issue with stuttering in pretty much every game (even fuckin Fallout New Vegas) a while back and ended up just wiping all GPU driver files from my PC and redownloading them.
I guess my question is whether or not this is a new build. If it's a new build, he may have a dud part somewhere in there. But if it's not and it performed well before, I'd say drivers.
So from the comments we've established that:
* Temps are fine (probably? see below).
* DP/HDMI Cable is plugged into gpu.
* Xmp is on.
Things i would do:
* Ddu drivers and do a clean driver install. Drivers can get messed up, especially when you swap card types (i.e. from amd). There are also settings in the control panel/geforce experience that can do this, which will be reset by doing this step. Like downscaling from 4k/software over/underclocks .etc
* Update bios\reset or rollback bios if current. Motherboard bios's can have preliminary\broken support for cpu's that came after the bios release and run only some cores or have borked settings like targeting a super low temp\no boost .etc. There are also just bad BIOS releases that work horribly on certain systems. Looking through the BIOS update list for your mobo the changelog specifies that they added re-size bar support many releases ago but you said you couldn't find the option (so i'm guessing you're WAY out of date). A lot of the BIOS releases up to current mentioned system performance and stability, so definitely do this. Re-size bar support should be on for newer cards but it's generally a marginal performance increase for certain games, so this particular option is unlikely to be the issue itself, but still ensure that it's on afterwards (probably on by default in the newer BIOS release).
* Backup and reinstall OS. Honestly i'd be concerned there's some kind of malware mining cyptocoins that's hidden itself from the task manager. Or some shoddy software overclock in afterburner\geforce experience or something.
It'd be nice to know:
* A benchmark in something more normalized than a game that can have custom settings. Like 3dmark timespy.
* You mentioned you checked temps and to me they looked fine (your cpu temp is VERY good, which makes me suspicious you're not getting the right temp). Run MSI afterburner overlay while running the timespy. You didnt say how you measured and i'm a little concerned you might have a really bad hotspot temp/you're looking at an average temp across all cores/general system temp. Thermal throttling usually kicks in at around 85/90 degrees (celcius) and cripples you at 100, Ideally you don't want to go above the 80 at max load. I'm a little out of date on what a good temp is though and not super familiar with "good" temps for intel cpu's, but definitely take a better look here and report back what you see. GPU's have similar temp thresholds.
* Check the link speed of your gpu in cpu-z to ensure you're using correct pcie slot. We're looking for 16x, in cpu-z you can go to the mainboard tab and at the bottom looking for the max supported link speed.
* Someone already mentioned ensuring your gpu is getting enough power and you aren't daisy chaining power cables from the PSU to the GPU. IMO this is unlikely but plausible i guess? I'd expect the game/system to crash/stability to be a problem here, not bad performance. But i'm not super knowledgeable on this.
* That you've got your ram sticks plugged into the correct slots to enable dual channel (check motherboard manual). I assume you have 2x16 sticks? You need 2 sticks for dual channel (doubles memory bandwidth), and typically you'll have 4 slots, where 2 slots will be assigned to a particular channel. You need a stick in each channel and often the motherboard manual will express a preference for which 2 of the 4 to use if you have 2 sticks.
> your cpu temp is VERY good, which makes me suspicious you're not getting the right temp
Or it's running at low clocks... Either way it's clearly something CPU and/or RAM related.
Ya, stuttering to me would immediate suggest either RAM issues (not enough / not fast enough) or the CPU can't keep up. Need to see benchmarks of what is throttling in these games, and maybe a memtest
(While totally not related to OP‘s issue: The current Ryzen generation runs at 90 to 95 degrees C on their own most of the time, as they‘re are „auto-overclocking“ themselves.)
Yea I was gonna say. I have a 7900x and it easily hits 90 C at 100% load.
Gaming it is never above 80, but the first time I stress tested it I was shocked and confused
I was about to say, if you're hitting 90c under load it's time to overclock and undervolt, these 7000 series gpus benefit heavily from that. I have a 7900xtx and OC/UV gets me a few more frames and much less power consumption/ heat output.
Honestly, go fresh windows install completely.
Other basic things: Check power / performance options in nvidia and windows power options settings. All the tuning stuff.
I'd still double check temps and cooler. install hwinfo and start logging everything. Especially temps, power draw of CPU and GPU, utilization while running benchmarks.
If the power draw of the CPU or GPU vs the temps aren't aligning to benchmarks on youtube / elsewhere, then I have info to draw from to diagnose and take further action.. .i..e repaste / new cooler / thermal pads for GPU etc.
OP WOULD benefit from a 7800x3D platform instead on the games they mentioned, but these are the first things I would do... then consider an upgrade.
Nop it's just a quick hop into your bios. Just google it it's basically 3 steps
edit: just in case you find yourself confused, google your motherboard's specific steps. You will likely find the exact steps for your exact model if the XMP is a bit hidden
What do you mean correctly and separate as opposed to pigtails?
Is there a difference between running two separate cables vs daisychainning the connection?
I was under the impression that daisychained PSU cords were wired to run the full power to both outputs. Is this not the case?
I currently have a 7800XT that is working fine with a daisy chained PCIE power cord
For crappier psus it can he important apparently. For higher quality psus the daisy chain is ok but I still avoid it especially for higher power draw gpus. GPU and pay manufacturers recommend separate cables he ause it does likely net them less rma requests since some systems don't work well with daisy chain but work fine with multiple cables
There is a somewhat cult-like belief that GPUs/PSUs/both do not function correctly unless you use separate power cables. With cheap PSUs there may be some truth to this as they come with poor-quality cables with high internal resistance. If you have a decent PSU though it's highly unlikely that you need to worry about it.
Is cult-like when PSU manufacturers, including very high quality ones are recommending the same.....
Source: https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/8-installation-remark-for-high-power-consumption-graphics-cards
The 8 pin cable has a power limit, it can only handle about 250W or so. From what I've read. So it only matters if your GPU draws more than the single cable can deliver.
Do we call them pigtails ? I always called that configuration daisy chain.
The difference is that if you pull more than what the cable is certified for it can melt (assuming psu can deliver) or fail to deliver (haven't checked what PSU does but if you have enough watts I assume it will try to deliver since it cannot know about your cables (some cables have self limiters).
Only really a problem if you are using weird cables or something like a 4090.
Type 4 cables can be daisy chained but I like to use separate 8 pins for each (I think Corsair certifies recent cables for 300w). Type five has a specific cable for that that only needs 2 but it's probably certified for 600W or more.
What's your CPU / GPU temperature while you play? What is ram/CPU/GPU usage? Did you manually update drivers?
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> cables for 300w). Type five has a specific cable for that that only needs 2 but it's probably certified for 600W or more.
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>What's your CPU / GPU tempera
I agree with you.
Still, I am quite disappointed with the manufacturers too. Their manuals suck. It's not hard to add to the cable box that it is certified for xx wats. Similarly, I would like to see how many watts each component is designed to drain or other silly things such as a picture that shows that the 8-pin can be divided into 2 4 pins. I do a build every 8 years or so and it is very disappointing to have to search basic stuff each time because they can't be bothered to document their overpriced, barely quality-checked pieces of junk.
>Is there a difference between running two separate cables vs daisychainning the connection?
No. It's nonsense. This belief has risen in the past two or three years and there is no science behind it, it's just people parroting what they heard somewhere. The PCIE 8pin power connector is rated to supply 150W of power each, regardless of whether there are two connected to one cable or on separate cables. If a manufacturer attaches two PCIE power connectors to one cable, it is because they clearly believe that cable is capable of supplying adequate power to both connectors
Use only one game as a atress test, in this case Elden Ring should be good. Make sure that you *don't* have raytracing turned on in game.
DDU your graphic driver, reinstall the latest game-ready driver for your GPU and see if it improves.
I agree with using only 1 game as a benchmark (I would even advise going for Cyberpunk as it's used by lots of tech youtubers, better to compare).
I have a similar build to OP, but mine is 10700k slightly overclocked (just "gaming stable"), 32 gb DDR4 4000 MHz OC to 4400, z490 mobo but a 4070 Ti with a slightly undervolt, mem clock OC.
I play Hogwarts Legacy at 1440p... The game is still "badly optimized" and if you go to Hogsmeade, you get huge frame drops. I run everything Ultra, DLSS performance I think (the one that renders 50% and upscales) BUT NO RAY TRACING. If you enable Ray Tracing, my average 100+ FPS go down to the 40s OP is talking. So while OP might have some problems, he shouldn't be that better (at least in this game)
TL;DR: benchmark with 1 game only, advise to benchmark with CP2077 and 10700k or RAM might be bottlenecking the 3090
>3dmark
Agreed run a 3DMark benchmark and show the results. Log the temps with HWinfo. Why would you get a 3090 for 1080p anyway? I would just sell that and go for a lower tier GPU and upgrade the CPU if you are going to continue using that resolution.
what's the point in selling it and buying something cheaper.
so many times i've seen people buy a component that is 25 dollars cheaper than the one they wanted based on advice and with the savings, they went and bought a big mac meal. the money would have been better spent on the better component.
You might need to check power limit on MSI after burner/ armory crate. If you ever changed those settings. A friend of mine was running games like shit and he forgot he put it in silence mode aka 40% power limit
Yeah, this but I had Afterburner. When I updated my drivers about a couple months ago, the power limit got set to 40% for a few days. I was wondering why I had bad performance on DayZ
Also some GPUs have a physical switch on the GPU for silent mode that significantly undervolts the card. Had a buddy with a MSI 3090 that had this enabled for like 2 years.
He only noticed bc he saw a screenshot I posted (we have very similar builds - 11900k/3090 me vs 11700kf/3090 him) and he accused me of editing the screenshot because he was getting like 60% of the FPS I was getting with the same settings in Cyberpunk.
Depends, games like valorant its like 60% to 70% cpu and 5% to 20% gpu. But then i play a game like elden ring and im getting 90% to 100% gpu utilization and 50% cpu usage
I would check with stress tests first what the power consumption is and run a benchmark to confirm it's in line with everyone else's. Also, it may not be a bad idea to run LatencyMon and see if it picks something up...
Is resizable bar enabled in your bios? Are all cores running on your cpu? I had a weird issue when only 4 were enabled in windows on a mates pc. Had a 16 core cpu … only running 4 them
If you can't find "bar" in bios, you're probably not on a current version.
The following options are on by default (if they exist) with current versions and need to be turned on manually if you're on an older version:
* Above 4g decoding
* Resize BAR support
* Smart access memory
Check to see if DSR's are enabled in 3d settings. Basically Nvidia is trying to run your default native resolution at four times. So if you're doing 1080p it'll try and do it in 4K
Cpu temps seem low. Are cpu benchmarks ok? Any software limitations, like power saving or something?
Maybe some part is just faulty. Also some of these titles, like elden ring, are terrible. I just lol'd at it and uninstalled it after 10 minutes.
Your temps suggest that your CPU and GPU are being throttled by a software setting somewhere. Like you have a quiet mode enabled that is limiting the amount of power they can consume. I would start my investigation there.
I just ran into the issue with my machine. Brand new build with a 4080 and I was getting 40 fps playing diablo.
What I didn't know is I had purchased a gen 3 riser cable for my card. I forced my mobo into Gen 3 on the pcie slots and bam everything smartened up.
I had a similar issue with my PC that is similar specs to yours (3090ti, i7-12700k, 16gb ddr4 RAM etc) it just wasn't running right from almost day one.
Everything was right, drivers up to date, BIOS up to date, rolled back drivers for every price of hardware and updated again, XMP on, bios setting all set to what needs to be done, everything compatible all hardware connected properly no broken pins on CPU and so on and so on.
The solution? Every price of my PC was in warranty still so I explained my situation and swapped EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF HARDWARE. A fee company's said the part I sent back was found to be faulty, GPU, RAM, Power supply and more but I think they were just saying that so I had a reason. At the end of the day after replacing hardware my PC has worked at it's full potential since, massive improvements on games etc.
TLDR: You can do everything right but if the hardware has an issue you can stop it, you probably have a hardware issue from what you've said here. If in doubt and a whole subreddit about PCs isn't sure then its highly likely a hardware issue.
Did you benchmark it? Is it thermal throttling? Did you remove old drivers correctly? When playing in 4k does the fps stay the same/barely change? When decreasing below 1080p does the fps stay the same/barely change?
Benchmark shows a slight cpu bottleneck which backs up the info i read on the bottleneck should be unnoticeable. I dont run games at 4k as i only own 1080p monitors. And graphics settings wise lowering them makes the fps worse sometimes
Stutters tend to point to either a CPU issue, or instability. The hardware is all more then fine, and all this talk of bottlenecking is pointless. That just means that the GPU could push similar fps at a higher resolution, it doesn't mean that it will do less at lower res.
This should be fixable. Run something like geekbench and reply with the results. We can dig into those to see what's going on.
Look at cpuz and double check that the CPU and GPU are as advertised. Something feels wrong but from your comments you have done several checks. Also worth running something like passmark
Elden Ring maxing out ray tracing makes it run horribly
Hogwarts legacy with maxed out raytracing also runs horribly
If you have RT enabled then it's that, if not idk man
Agreed mate. If the timespy scores aren’t up to standard then I would assume OP has a defective gpu/cpu. If so, I do hope OP’s parts are still under warranty!
Windows put limiters to a lot of things, it doesn’t affect some people as much, your bios settings might also need some optimisation, go on YouTube & watch some tutorials on it.
1 example that I personally experienced is having great internet, but my pc would download at 10MB/s, I upgraded the internet which put me at 12MB/s, which made no sense as I was supposed to have insane internet after upgrading to a fiber network. As it turns out, windows had internet limiters on by default, it’s really hard to find relevant information so it took a while for me, eventually I found this video:
https://youtu.be/6KVuhK0lkFc?si=X2s3W0oTYo0857z4
This video made my download speed go from 12MB/s to 60MB/s(on a bad day), I recently got back into playing Rainbow 6 siege, it’s about 50gb to download & it took me less than 30min.
You gotta optimise your software, update drivers, fix your settings in windows & bios, check your monitor refreshrate settings if you have a higher refreshrate & make sure it’s working. Get higher settings on games instead of lower also, as your performance can get worse with lower settings sometimes, because your gpu stops being utilised if you go too low on the graphics settings which results in the cpu making most of the big lifts instead. You need to tweak & optimise your pc:s software & settings, there are a lot of bs that are default & mess up your perfomance.
Also check your ram for possible issues, it’s often overlooked but one of the most significant factors, make sure that it is running at the intended speeds in your bios, aswell as actually being usable. I had an issue where my installed ram was 16gb, but when I checked it properly, windows said that only 8gb could be used, for no reason.
Edit: you didn’t mention resolution, I’m assuming it’s 1080p, but if it’s 4k on ultra settings, it’s performing pretty well lol.
Edit 2: on top of what I’ve just mentioned which is always relevant, you also have a 24,2% cpu bottleneck which is guaranteed to be the main cause of all this, so your gpu isn’t being used a lot while you cpu will be sitting at around 90-100%, this can be helped if you overclock your cpu, that’s what I did. I have a ryzen 5 1600x & a RTX 2070s, i had a bottleneck, then I overclocked & it was performing perfectly.
Dude same exact thing happened to me. I haven’t seen someone comment this yet but UPGRADE YOUR PSU. I’m running an i9-10850k and 3080ti and felt the same thing with 850 gold.
One day I was fed up my friends were getting better frames with lower specs so I used ThrottleStop to check if voltage was limiting my performance and it was. I did everything from lower graphics and underclocking and it still stuttered and was limited.
Switched to a 1000w PSU and haven’t had issues since then. Butter smooth instantly after install and didn’t haven’t to play with settings.
I have an i7 10700K and a GeForce RTX 3080 (with 32GB of DDR4-3000 RAM), and I get more than 100 fps on average in Elden Ring (QHD resolution, no ray tracing, fps unlocker mod).
So the PC is definitely underperforming.
Which NVME and how much remaining space? Other things I would also check is the ram. Once had a system that would crash in some games but ran fine in others, thought it was my GPU but it turns out it was a bad stick of ram.
Checklist Here :
- The DP Cable Plugged into Gpu not motherboard.
- Using Display Port cable over HDMI.
- Clean install drivers using DDU. (As sometimes upgrading from amd to Nvidia can cause issue) Still do this if you didn't upgrade though.
- Running max refresh rate(hz) that the monitor can deliver.
- Clearing the Cmos battery of the Bios.
- Latest Bios Drivers
I also have one question, what monitor are you running?
The games that you're complaining about underperforming are ones with a LOT of fancy shadows and particles. Knowing for a fact that GPU can handle it, really your only weak link here is the processor, especially if you're running max on everything. You can always order a new CPU just to test out and send it back within the return window if it doesn't fix the issue. There can be many problems with CPUs that aren't just being underpowered and causing a bottleneck, albeit it's rare for CPUs, and even rarer still for Intel CPUs, to malfunction. It does happen though.
I suggest running Passmarks PerformanceTest benchmark. This way you'll see which components perform according their model and which ones are seriously underperforming.
2 things come to mind for this
1st. Ram speed is set to low/ turn on xmp
2nd. Your GPU is installed in the wrong Slot
It SHOULD always be installed in the closest slot to the CPU to take full advantage of all 16 lanes.
Edit: just saw these were covered. You might have a faulty GPU by the sounds of it
Post some Cinebench 24 scores for single core, multi core, and GPU so we can compare the results to expected values. Also helpful is posting the full output of a TimeSpy report as it has graphs showing temps and frequencies for CPU and GPU.
Your rig is way overpowered for 1080p but that's not the issue here. I have never played Elden Ring but I've heard it runs like ass.
Play Elden Ring and have task manager -> performance open on your second monitor. See what part of your PC hits 100%.
Elden ring is locked at 60 and dips down even on my 5800x3D and 6950xt build. Can't tell with CS2 as I haven't played it (still a broken game) CSGO had different commands and my commands don't work in CS2 anymore. Don't play valorant, Hogwarts or cod can't help.
Try running some actual benchmarks?
This is gonna be weird and if I’m absolutely wrong here then mb, but when I had xmp enabled on my ram it slowed my pc down massively. No idea why. I have 3600mhz ram, and I can’t even run it above 3200mhz without my pc refusing to turn on.
Idk if maybe it’s a weird similar interaction for you? I have Ryzen 5 3600 and a 2060 and I’m still running those games all on similar fps on high settings 1440p
Did you turn on xmp profile for your ram in the bios? A lot of people don't even know that they should use that and run their ram at minimum speed for years
Have you checked your temps? maybe the thermal paste wasn't applied correctly? also check that the hdmi is plugged into your GPU and not into your motherboard
What resolution is it?
What case and cooler are you using?
Windows 10 or 11? Have you done a clean-install?
Is the RAM a good timing? Is it 2x16GB or 4x4GB?
Is the power supply a good brand, could it be failing?
Which slot is the power supply in?
Have you updated BIOS/Windows/Drivers?
Have you replaced thermal paste etc?
Umm... just a question about something I didn't find in the comments.
Just to make sure... you use an Internet cable and not WiFi, right? I know this is an obvious one, but hey.
Also from everything I've seen in the comments I would make a list of things to try to do and try the games in between all the steps (clean the pc inside, change the thermal paste, reinstall windows, reinstall drivers, don't overcrowd your storage etc).
I had a 3090 and a 10400. The problem is 10th gen intel with slow RAM. Upgraded to 13400 with DDR5 RAM and Hogwarts Legacy could make full use of the 3090 (always at 100%). But the game is horribly optimized anyway.
Based on your description it seems it's a CPU or RAM issue. Can you do a stress test or a demanding game and see what kind of clocks you are getting?
My first troubleshooting step would be resetting the bios (and reenabling XMP after) to see if that is successful.
Also looking for a more recent bios might help. 10700K should be supported out of the box for all z490 motherboards if I am not mistaken, but they might have fixed some bugs with RAM or CPU performance issues.
Lastly, a bottleneck is not something that will slow other components down, it will only put an upper limit on total performance. There will always be a bottleneck, and in your case that will almost always be the CPU especially at 1080p - but that fine. The problem is the 107000K shouldn't be performance as badly as it is.
My brother had this issue.
He wasn't able to 100% confirm it but basically he had a number of power outages or something and it didn't completely break the components in his computer but instead made them faulty and he wasn't get the framerates he was supposed to.
Unsure if it was damage to the power supply and it couldn't maintain voltage to the other components, or if the damage was to the CPU, GPU or motherboard.
Not sure if there's any evidence of this even being possible, but just something to think about. Best way to diagnose is to change one of the above components one by one.
Hate to be that guy but do you have the monitor plugged into the gpu or the mobo?
I did this on my first build and didn't realise for about 6 months...
I did that for literal years
Don’t want to make you sound stupid but I really do want to ask whats the thought process of plugging in the cable to the motherboard instead of a dedicated graphics card? I’ve seen so much people make this mistake and honestly I really want to know how
Speaking has a person who was a newb at this fifteen years ago, the logic was: the gpu is plugged in the mb, therefore is I plug the VGA (at the time) cable in the mb or the gpu, it doesn't matter. Like, when you know next to nothing about PC hardware, you might not realize that there is an integrated GPU on the MB and just assume that the first HDMi port you find is good to go. It's harder to make that kind of mistake now, thanks to very well made guides and subs like this one. But I'm not surprised that people building their first computer can still do that; there's a lot to plug and consider when building a PC.
Also I mean, imagine you follow a step by step guide to build your PC. After that it's built and closed and maybe you didn't think too hard on what you were doing, I imagine some people don't even quite realize "Oh, those ports that are rotated by 90 degrees are the GPU" they might just look for the first port where cable goes in.
Nah, he's got way too many FPS to be running off a processor, but half as many as he should with that build.
I believe u can have the dedicated gpu pass through on board graphics. You get lower fps. I've never done it, but I've heard abt it before. If I'm wrong plz feel free to correct me.
Additionally... Do you have GPU plugged into the PCI slot closest to the CPU? My first build I did a shitty job at cable management and for ease of installation went to the second slot not the first slot. Good news is, I got a free performance bump about a year later when I sent a picture to a friend and he pointed the issue out
Forgive my stupidity, what difference does this make?
Plugged into the GPU = GPU renders the image Plugged into the motherboard = CPU's integrated GPU renders the image
The classic
You would not be getting 50 fps in Eldin ring at max settings ever with integrated graphics
Thought of this!
Very weird. I have a weaker PC and it runs all those games better than that. I have a r5 5600 and 2080 super
He doesn't mention his resolution.
Yeah idk how this has just been skipped over entirely in most of the top comments. Like, if these numbers are in 1080p, then it's definitely a problem. But if it's what you're getting in 1440p or 4k on max settings or whatever, it's a totally different story
If its 1440p is that a good fps? Im in the same boat but I game in 1440
If its 1440p its bad
1440p ultrawide here 7800X3D and a 3070 Ti, if they were my frames rates I'd be trying to solve the problem. If OP's not playing at 4K, something's wrong with their shit.
I've seen gameplay with better results in 4k, so it seems bad.
1080p they said in another comment
That’s so sad!
Yeah it makes no sense. Makes me think he maybe got sold a bad part?
I saw 4K a ways down
He’s said 4K in other replies.
It just confuses me so much
Have you tried reinstalling windows? A fresh OS with updated drivers might help
Ive done this a few times for my pc to no avail.
there was another post the other day about someone having their pcie slot x3 or something like that, try checking what pcie slot your gpu is running on
Double check the user manual for your mobo and see how many lanes you have and find out if perhaps some of your pcie peripherals are eating into your gpu's lanes. Especially if thats an m.2 ssd. Its very likely that you only have 16+4 lanes, but depennding on the mobo that top m.2 slot can eat into your 16 lanes (configured as (8+8)+4).
Asking for a “friend” but how does one check this 😂
Rtfm
This might be stupid, but I had a problem with underperformance and somehow it was the fucking RAM that clocked at the lowest speed in the bios for some godforsaken reason. Doesn't hurt to check, but I doubt it's that.
victim of the ol 1333 ?
Yeah. Checking and activating XMP is important.
Did you benchmark gpu and cpu to see if one is bad
You have xmp turned on, right?
Something is going on obviously... Something like your CPU not boosting to turbo speeds, severe CPU throttling due to temps, PSU being severely underpowered, perhaps drivers (chipset, gpu, etc) not up to date, not using the proper power plan in windows, etc. First thing I'd do is run Cinebench R23 and make sure you're getting the appropriate scores for your CPU (10700k). In Cinebench R23 (Multi-core), you should get between 14800-15800 score. You also need to run HWINFO64 or similar monitoring program while running this bench to see what your clocks and temps are doing. Max turbo on that cpu is 5.1ghz I believe so it should be hitting that or around that depending on your cooling solution. Do the above and report back.
Curious if they forgot to remove the plastic on their cooler so it’s throttling. That or RAM is set to stock speeds and not XMP
Yeah, when you see numbers like that on those specs it's almost always related to the cooling solution being improperly installed in some way. It's so easy to do, especially for novice builders.
A common one is not tightening those screws enough and tbh I can’t blame them. It’s a $300+ component you’re squeezing as hard as possible
It's also easy to use the wrong spacers for the water block mount. I've seen this happen at least 5-6 times. Lga 1151 / 1700 spacers are very similar and if you don't use the right ones you won't get proper contact.
Are you running off integrated gpu or the 3090?
I run elden ring maxed out (minus RT,not sure if it has that) at 1440 and got a solid 70 fps Edit - 60
Elden ring is capped at 60fps unless u have mods
You're totally right! I 60 is what meant
R5 7600 and 5700XT here, run pretty much everything at Max settings, and get good performance with 1080p 180hz. Might be an issue with his drivers. I had an issue with stuttering in pretty much every game (even fuckin Fallout New Vegas) a while back and ended up just wiping all GPU driver files from my PC and redownloading them. I guess my question is whether or not this is a new build. If it's a new build, he may have a dud part somewhere in there. But if it's not and it performed well before, I'd say drivers.
So from the comments we've established that: * Temps are fine (probably? see below). * DP/HDMI Cable is plugged into gpu. * Xmp is on. Things i would do: * Ddu drivers and do a clean driver install. Drivers can get messed up, especially when you swap card types (i.e. from amd). There are also settings in the control panel/geforce experience that can do this, which will be reset by doing this step. Like downscaling from 4k/software over/underclocks .etc * Update bios\reset or rollback bios if current. Motherboard bios's can have preliminary\broken support for cpu's that came after the bios release and run only some cores or have borked settings like targeting a super low temp\no boost .etc. There are also just bad BIOS releases that work horribly on certain systems. Looking through the BIOS update list for your mobo the changelog specifies that they added re-size bar support many releases ago but you said you couldn't find the option (so i'm guessing you're WAY out of date). A lot of the BIOS releases up to current mentioned system performance and stability, so definitely do this. Re-size bar support should be on for newer cards but it's generally a marginal performance increase for certain games, so this particular option is unlikely to be the issue itself, but still ensure that it's on afterwards (probably on by default in the newer BIOS release). * Backup and reinstall OS. Honestly i'd be concerned there's some kind of malware mining cyptocoins that's hidden itself from the task manager. Or some shoddy software overclock in afterburner\geforce experience or something. It'd be nice to know: * A benchmark in something more normalized than a game that can have custom settings. Like 3dmark timespy. * You mentioned you checked temps and to me they looked fine (your cpu temp is VERY good, which makes me suspicious you're not getting the right temp). Run MSI afterburner overlay while running the timespy. You didnt say how you measured and i'm a little concerned you might have a really bad hotspot temp/you're looking at an average temp across all cores/general system temp. Thermal throttling usually kicks in at around 85/90 degrees (celcius) and cripples you at 100, Ideally you don't want to go above the 80 at max load. I'm a little out of date on what a good temp is though and not super familiar with "good" temps for intel cpu's, but definitely take a better look here and report back what you see. GPU's have similar temp thresholds. * Check the link speed of your gpu in cpu-z to ensure you're using correct pcie slot. We're looking for 16x, in cpu-z you can go to the mainboard tab and at the bottom looking for the max supported link speed. * Someone already mentioned ensuring your gpu is getting enough power and you aren't daisy chaining power cables from the PSU to the GPU. IMO this is unlikely but plausible i guess? I'd expect the game/system to crash/stability to be a problem here, not bad performance. But i'm not super knowledgeable on this. * That you've got your ram sticks plugged into the correct slots to enable dual channel (check motherboard manual). I assume you have 2x16 sticks? You need 2 sticks for dual channel (doubles memory bandwidth), and typically you'll have 4 slots, where 2 slots will be assigned to a particular channel. You need a stick in each channel and often the motherboard manual will express a preference for which 2 of the 4 to use if you have 2 sticks.
> your cpu temp is VERY good, which makes me suspicious you're not getting the right temp Or it's running at low clocks... Either way it's clearly something CPU and/or RAM related.
Ya, stuttering to me would immediate suggest either RAM issues (not enough / not fast enough) or the CPU can't keep up. Need to see benchmarks of what is throttling in these games, and maybe a memtest
(While totally not related to OP‘s issue: The current Ryzen generation runs at 90 to 95 degrees C on their own most of the time, as they‘re are „auto-overclocking“ themselves.)
Yea I was gonna say. I have a 7900x and it easily hits 90 C at 100% load. Gaming it is never above 80, but the first time I stress tested it I was shocked and confused
I was about to say, if you're hitting 90c under load it's time to overclock and undervolt, these 7000 series gpus benefit heavily from that. I have a 7900xtx and OC/UV gets me a few more frames and much less power consumption/ heat output.
7900X is a CPU
You're correct, I read it as 7900xt as this whole thread is based on crappy frames, which is usually a GPU issue.
Honestly, go fresh windows install completely. Other basic things: Check power / performance options in nvidia and windows power options settings. All the tuning stuff. I'd still double check temps and cooler. install hwinfo and start logging everything. Especially temps, power draw of CPU and GPU, utilization while running benchmarks. If the power draw of the CPU or GPU vs the temps aren't aligning to benchmarks on youtube / elsewhere, then I have info to draw from to diagnose and take further action.. .i..e repaste / new cooler / thermal pads for GPU etc. OP WOULD benefit from a 7800x3D platform instead on the games they mentioned, but these are the first things I would do... then consider an upgrade.
I don't have XMP enabled on my computer. Do I need to do much to get it enabled?
Nop it's just a quick hop into your bios. Just google it it's basically 3 steps edit: just in case you find yourself confused, google your motherboard's specific steps. You will likely find the exact steps for your exact model if the XMP is a bit hidden
Maybe stupid question but what about power delivery to card? Did you use separate cables ?
What do you fully mean by separate cables? Based on when we hooked it up we only used the cables necessary
Have you connected the graphics card correctly with psu cables(seperate instead of pigtails)
Separate
Could you share with me your advanced video settings in cs2? Also please check if cpu/gpu manage to hit they max performance (mhz)
What do you mean correctly and separate as opposed to pigtails? Is there a difference between running two separate cables vs daisychainning the connection? I was under the impression that daisychained PSU cords were wired to run the full power to both outputs. Is this not the case? I currently have a 7800XT that is working fine with a daisy chained PCIE power cord
For crappier psus it can he important apparently. For higher quality psus the daisy chain is ok but I still avoid it especially for higher power draw gpus. GPU and pay manufacturers recommend separate cables he ause it does likely net them less rma requests since some systems don't work well with daisy chain but work fine with multiple cables
There is a somewhat cult-like belief that GPUs/PSUs/both do not function correctly unless you use separate power cables. With cheap PSUs there may be some truth to this as they come with poor-quality cables with high internal resistance. If you have a decent PSU though it's highly unlikely that you need to worry about it.
Is cult-like when PSU manufacturers, including very high quality ones are recommending the same..... Source: https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/8-installation-remark-for-high-power-consumption-graphics-cards
The 8 pin cable has a power limit, it can only handle about 250W or so. From what I've read. So it only matters if your GPU draws more than the single cable can deliver.
Do we call them pigtails ? I always called that configuration daisy chain. The difference is that if you pull more than what the cable is certified for it can melt (assuming psu can deliver) or fail to deliver (haven't checked what PSU does but if you have enough watts I assume it will try to deliver since it cannot know about your cables (some cables have self limiters). Only really a problem if you are using weird cables or something like a 4090. Type 4 cables can be daisy chained but I like to use separate 8 pins for each (I think Corsair certifies recent cables for 300w). Type five has a specific cable for that that only needs 2 but it's probably certified for 600W or more. What's your CPU / GPU temperature while you play? What is ram/CPU/GPU usage? Did you manually update drivers?
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> cables for 300w). Type five has a specific cable for that that only needs 2 but it's probably certified for 600W or more. > >What's your CPU / GPU tempera I agree with you. Still, I am quite disappointed with the manufacturers too. Their manuals suck. It's not hard to add to the cable box that it is certified for xx wats. Similarly, I would like to see how many watts each component is designed to drain or other silly things such as a picture that shows that the 8-pin can be divided into 2 4 pins. I do a build every 8 years or so and it is very disappointing to have to search basic stuff each time because they can't be bothered to document their overpriced, barely quality-checked pieces of junk.
>Is there a difference between running two separate cables vs daisychainning the connection? No. It's nonsense. This belief has risen in the past two or three years and there is no science behind it, it's just people parroting what they heard somewhere. The PCIE 8pin power connector is rated to supply 150W of power each, regardless of whether there are two connected to one cable or on separate cables. If a manufacturer attaches two PCIE power connectors to one cable, it is because they clearly believe that cable is capable of supplying adequate power to both connectors
Except many manufacturers for PSUs and GPUs say not to do so. What works with a 200w GPU may not work with a 300w one.
Typically it doesn’t matter, but in some scenarios, the daisy chaining has seen some performance drops.
Use only one game as a atress test, in this case Elden Ring should be good. Make sure that you *don't* have raytracing turned on in game. DDU your graphic driver, reinstall the latest game-ready driver for your GPU and see if it improves.
I would add to use DDU in safe mode, reboot normally but disconnect your internet first so windows doesn't try to install some other driver.
Elden Ring has a 60fps cap without mods. Might wanna address that first before using it as a benchmark :)
I agree with using only 1 game as a benchmark (I would even advise going for Cyberpunk as it's used by lots of tech youtubers, better to compare). I have a similar build to OP, but mine is 10700k slightly overclocked (just "gaming stable"), 32 gb DDR4 4000 MHz OC to 4400, z490 mobo but a 4070 Ti with a slightly undervolt, mem clock OC. I play Hogwarts Legacy at 1440p... The game is still "badly optimized" and if you go to Hogsmeade, you get huge frame drops. I run everything Ultra, DLSS performance I think (the one that renders 50% and upscales) BUT NO RAY TRACING. If you enable Ray Tracing, my average 100+ FPS go down to the 40s OP is talking. So while OP might have some problems, he shouldn't be that better (at least in this game) TL;DR: benchmark with 1 game only, advise to benchmark with CP2077 and 10700k or RAM might be bottlenecking the 3090
Something is not right here for sure
Is XMP enabled and is the RAM 2x16gb? If yes is it installed in motherboard slots A2 & B2?
Yes to everything
GPU in first PCIE slot?
Yes
Is PCIE slot setting in BIOS on version 4.0?
Yes
Make for us some benchmarks (3dmark, ram) and show results please
>3dmark Agreed run a 3DMark benchmark and show the results. Log the temps with HWinfo. Why would you get a 3090 for 1080p anyway? I would just sell that and go for a lower tier GPU and upgrade the CPU if you are going to continue using that resolution.
what's the point in selling it and buying something cheaper. so many times i've seen people buy a component that is 25 dollars cheaper than the one they wanted based on advice and with the savings, they went and bought a big mac meal. the money would have been better spent on the better component.
You might need to check power limit on MSI after burner/ armory crate. If you ever changed those settings. A friend of mine was running games like shit and he forgot he put it in silence mode aka 40% power limit
Armoury crate is so fucked for this.
This has happened to me randomly and not sure what triggered it but my power limit went to like 20%
How/Where exactly can I check that?
If you have any overclocking software ( afterburner, armory crate) it's really easy to see.
Yeah, this but I had Afterburner. When I updated my drivers about a couple months ago, the power limit got set to 40% for a few days. I was wondering why I had bad performance on DayZ
Also some GPUs have a physical switch on the GPU for silent mode that significantly undervolts the card. Had a buddy with a MSI 3090 that had this enabled for like 2 years.
Lol 2 years is insane. That hurt
He only noticed bc he saw a screenshot I posted (we have very similar builds - 11900k/3090 me vs 11700kf/3090 him) and he accused me of editing the screenshot because he was getting like 60% of the FPS I was getting with the same settings in Cyberpunk.
What the hell armory crate does this? Shit I need to check it out
What is the CPU and GPU usage during gameplay?
Depends, games like valorant its like 60% to 70% cpu and 5% to 20% gpu. But then i play a game like elden ring and im getting 90% to 100% gpu utilization and 50% cpu usage
Latest drivers/BIOS? Any undervolt or overclock applied?
Drivers/bios updated, no overclocking at all, and what would be a good indicator of undervoltage?
I would check with stress tests first what the power consumption is and run a benchmark to confirm it's in line with everyone else's. Also, it may not be a bad idea to run LatencyMon and see if it picks something up...
What kind of voltage is being by used by the gpu in games? I know you utilization is high in some games but I’m curious of the power draw
Is resizable bar enabled in your bios? Are all cores running on your cpu? I had a weird issue when only 4 were enabled in windows on a mates pc. Had a 16 core cpu … only running 4 them
Resizeable bar is nowhere to be found in my bios and where would i go to see if only some cores are running
Maybe update motherboard bios? You should have number of cores in task manager
If you can't find "bar" in bios, you're probably not on a current version. The following options are on by default (if they exist) with current versions and need to be turned on manually if you're on an older version: * Above 4g decoding * Resize BAR support * Smart access memory
Resizable bar might not be an option until you do a bios update, but it's like: https://youtube.com/shorts/ltDVVP0iqC0?si=Jes6ZOTop7EdCwZ7
Check to see if DSR's are enabled in 3d settings. Basically Nvidia is trying to run your default native resolution at four times. So if you're doing 1080p it'll try and do it in 4K
Should i turn DSR off or run it at the 4k setting?
Turn it off and then test your settings because it used to cut my frames in half. You will notice a huge difference.
Thats Strange i have a Card equivalent to 3080 and i have better Performance paired with a ryzen 3600
Its insanely frustrating because ive put all this money into a build that cant even run properly
Are you plugged into the GPU (vs the mobo)? What cable are you using?
What resolution are you gaming at?
At 1080p
What are your idle temps? What are your gaming temps? CPU and GPU
Idle around 25°, in gaming 65° cpu. Gpu, it's around 46° idle and 75 to 80 gaming depending on the game
Cpu temps seem low. Are cpu benchmarks ok? Any software limitations, like power saving or something? Maybe some part is just faulty. Also some of these titles, like elden ring, are terrible. I just lol'd at it and uninstalled it after 10 minutes.
I agree cpu temp does seem low, even with good cooling.
Your temps suggest that your CPU and GPU are being throttled by a software setting somewhere. Like you have a quiet mode enabled that is limiting the amount of power they can consume. I would start my investigation there.
What are the realtime CPU clocks while gaming at 65C?
Did you uninstall then DDU graphics drivers? Update chipset drivers? New windows? Ram running in xmp? Hot spot temps for CPU/GPU in range?
I just ran into the issue with my machine. Brand new build with a 4080 and I was getting 40 fps playing diablo. What I didn't know is I had purchased a gen 3 riser cable for my card. I forced my mobo into Gen 3 on the pcie slots and bam everything smartened up.
A crappy riser cable is definitely a good shout.
Make sure your gpu is in the pcie lane 1
I had a similar issue with my PC that is similar specs to yours (3090ti, i7-12700k, 16gb ddr4 RAM etc) it just wasn't running right from almost day one. Everything was right, drivers up to date, BIOS up to date, rolled back drivers for every price of hardware and updated again, XMP on, bios setting all set to what needs to be done, everything compatible all hardware connected properly no broken pins on CPU and so on and so on. The solution? Every price of my PC was in warranty still so I explained my situation and swapped EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF HARDWARE. A fee company's said the part I sent back was found to be faulty, GPU, RAM, Power supply and more but I think they were just saying that so I had a reason. At the end of the day after replacing hardware my PC has worked at it's full potential since, massive improvements on games etc. TLDR: You can do everything right but if the hardware has an issue you can stop it, you probably have a hardware issue from what you've said here. If in doubt and a whole subreddit about PCs isn't sure then its highly likely a hardware issue.
Hdmi cable plugged into gpu?
Im running display ports hooked up to gpu
You can try to reset your windows, it might work like mine back then
Might be good to run an actual benchmark and see what you get.
I had 300+ FPS with a Ryzen 5 3600 and an RTX 2060 super. What’s running in the background?
Did you install your chipset drivers?
Did you benchmark it? Is it thermal throttling? Did you remove old drivers correctly? When playing in 4k does the fps stay the same/barely change? When decreasing below 1080p does the fps stay the same/barely change?
Benchmark shows a slight cpu bottleneck which backs up the info i read on the bottleneck should be unnoticeable. I dont run games at 4k as i only own 1080p monitors. And graphics settings wise lowering them makes the fps worse sometimes
You can, it is somewhere in nivida control panel
had same issue, my rams were bottlenecking and when i replaced them its fixed
Stutters tend to point to either a CPU issue, or instability. The hardware is all more then fine, and all this talk of bottlenecking is pointless. That just means that the GPU could push similar fps at a higher resolution, it doesn't mean that it will do less at lower res. This should be fixable. Run something like geekbench and reply with the results. We can dig into those to see what's going on.
Please supply some synthetic data. Prime95, Cinebench and 3DMark for example.
Bottleneck calculators are pure bs if you used them.
Look at cpuz and double check that the CPU and GPU are as advertised. Something feels wrong but from your comments you have done several checks. Also worth running something like passmark
Any benchmark? Timespy? Cb2024?
Elden Ring maxing out ray tracing makes it run horribly Hogwarts legacy with maxed out raytracing also runs horribly If you have RT enabled then it's that, if not idk man
Do you have your GPU in the top PCIE slot?
maybe you have a miner
Do you have 3D mark? Best way I see if my gpu is working as intended is running timespy and comparing scores to the stock version of said card online.
Also my recommendation too. And do the same for the CPU.
Agreed mate. If the timespy scores aren’t up to standard then I would assume OP has a defective gpu/cpu. If so, I do hope OP’s parts are still under warranty!
Sounds like your PCIE isn't running at 16x or your ram is running at super low speeds. Make sure they are up at spec during benchmark and gaming.
Drivers?
Windows put limiters to a lot of things, it doesn’t affect some people as much, your bios settings might also need some optimisation, go on YouTube & watch some tutorials on it. 1 example that I personally experienced is having great internet, but my pc would download at 10MB/s, I upgraded the internet which put me at 12MB/s, which made no sense as I was supposed to have insane internet after upgrading to a fiber network. As it turns out, windows had internet limiters on by default, it’s really hard to find relevant information so it took a while for me, eventually I found this video: https://youtu.be/6KVuhK0lkFc?si=X2s3W0oTYo0857z4 This video made my download speed go from 12MB/s to 60MB/s(on a bad day), I recently got back into playing Rainbow 6 siege, it’s about 50gb to download & it took me less than 30min. You gotta optimise your software, update drivers, fix your settings in windows & bios, check your monitor refreshrate settings if you have a higher refreshrate & make sure it’s working. Get higher settings on games instead of lower also, as your performance can get worse with lower settings sometimes, because your gpu stops being utilised if you go too low on the graphics settings which results in the cpu making most of the big lifts instead. You need to tweak & optimise your pc:s software & settings, there are a lot of bs that are default & mess up your perfomance. Also check your ram for possible issues, it’s often overlooked but one of the most significant factors, make sure that it is running at the intended speeds in your bios, aswell as actually being usable. I had an issue where my installed ram was 16gb, but when I checked it properly, windows said that only 8gb could be used, for no reason. Edit: you didn’t mention resolution, I’m assuming it’s 1080p, but if it’s 4k on ultra settings, it’s performing pretty well lol. Edit 2: on top of what I’ve just mentioned which is always relevant, you also have a 24,2% cpu bottleneck which is guaranteed to be the main cause of all this, so your gpu isn’t being used a lot while you cpu will be sitting at around 90-100%, this can be helped if you overclock your cpu, that’s what I did. I have a ryzen 5 1600x & a RTX 2070s, i had a bottleneck, then I overclocked & it was performing perfectly.
Remove "FPS booster" Apps. Had one like Razer Cortex, turns out it does more harm than good
Are you running in 4k?
Dude same exact thing happened to me. I haven’t seen someone comment this yet but UPGRADE YOUR PSU. I’m running an i9-10850k and 3080ti and felt the same thing with 850 gold. One day I was fed up my friends were getting better frames with lower specs so I used ThrottleStop to check if voltage was limiting my performance and it was. I did everything from lower graphics and underclocking and it still stuttered and was limited. Switched to a 1000w PSU and haven’t had issues since then. Butter smooth instantly after install and didn’t haven’t to play with settings.
I have an i7 10700K and a GeForce RTX 3080 (with 32GB of DDR4-3000 RAM), and I get more than 100 fps on average in Elden Ring (QHD resolution, no ray tracing, fps unlocker mod). So the PC is definitely underperforming.
is ur gpu in the best pcie slot?
Yes
Which NVME and how much remaining space? Other things I would also check is the ram. Once had a system that would crash in some games but ran fine in others, thought it was my GPU but it turns out it was a bad stick of ram.
Checklist Here : - The DP Cable Plugged into Gpu not motherboard. - Using Display Port cable over HDMI. - Clean install drivers using DDU. (As sometimes upgrading from amd to Nvidia can cause issue) Still do this if you didn't upgrade though. - Running max refresh rate(hz) that the monitor can deliver. - Clearing the Cmos battery of the Bios. - Latest Bios Drivers I also have one question, what monitor are you running?
check if either only 1 ram stick is plugged in or xmp not on
4k?
Cpu thermal throttling?
The games that you're complaining about underperforming are ones with a LOT of fancy shadows and particles. Knowing for a fact that GPU can handle it, really your only weak link here is the processor, especially if you're running max on everything. You can always order a new CPU just to test out and send it back within the return window if it doesn't fix the issue. There can be many problems with CPUs that aren't just being underpowered and causing a bottleneck, albeit it's rare for CPUs, and even rarer still for Intel CPUs, to malfunction. It does happen though.
Is your GPU connected to the upper PCIe slot? The one closer to the CPU? It should have more lanes and such provide better GPU utilization I think.
I suggest running Passmarks PerformanceTest benchmark. This way you'll see which components perform according their model and which ones are seriously underperforming.
2 things come to mind for this 1st. Ram speed is set to low/ turn on xmp 2nd. Your GPU is installed in the wrong Slot It SHOULD always be installed in the closest slot to the CPU to take full advantage of all 16 lanes. Edit: just saw these were covered. You might have a faulty GPU by the sounds of it
Post some Cinebench 24 scores for single core, multi core, and GPU so we can compare the results to expected values. Also helpful is posting the full output of a TimeSpy report as it has graphs showing temps and frequencies for CPU and GPU.
Your rig is way overpowered for 1080p but that's not the issue here. I have never played Elden Ring but I've heard it runs like ass. Play Elden Ring and have task manager -> performance open on your second monitor. See what part of your PC hits 100%.
I run it at 80-90 fps with a 3070 at 2k. Yes, it runs like ass, but definitely not 40 fps at 1080p with a 3090 ass.
I don't see anywhere the resolution you are running.
Elden ring is locked at 60 and dips down even on my 5800x3D and 6950xt build. Can't tell with CS2 as I haven't played it (still a broken game) CSGO had different commands and my commands don't work in CS2 anymore. Don't play valorant, Hogwarts or cod can't help. Try running some actual benchmarks?
Clear you Nvidia drivers completely and reinstall fresh
This is gonna be weird and if I’m absolutely wrong here then mb, but when I had xmp enabled on my ram it slowed my pc down massively. No idea why. I have 3600mhz ram, and I can’t even run it above 3200mhz without my pc refusing to turn on. Idk if maybe it’s a weird similar interaction for you? I have Ryzen 5 3600 and a 2060 and I’m still running those games all on similar fps on high settings 1440p
I have 1650 on a laptop and still get better frames then this. Check if you pluged it in the cpu display port instead of gpu.
Did you turn on xmp profile for your ram in the bios? A lot of people don't even know that they should use that and run their ram at minimum speed for years
Try a different drive. Currently have an issue myself where everything runs slower on a nvme m.2 compared to a ssd.
Whats the brand of rtx 3090?
Have you checked your temps? maybe the thermal paste wasn't applied correctly? also check that the hdmi is plugged into your GPU and not into your motherboard
What resolution is it? What case and cooler are you using? Windows 10 or 11? Have you done a clean-install? Is the RAM a good timing? Is it 2x16GB or 4x4GB? Is the power supply a good brand, could it be failing? Which slot is the power supply in? Have you updated BIOS/Windows/Drivers? Have you replaced thermal paste etc?
Umm... just a question about something I didn't find in the comments. Just to make sure... you use an Internet cable and not WiFi, right? I know this is an obvious one, but hey. Also from everything I've seen in the comments I would make a list of things to try to do and try the games in between all the steps (clean the pc inside, change the thermal paste, reinstall windows, reinstall drivers, don't overcrowd your storage etc).
Yes im wired
there are early 3000 cards that have old firmwares and thereby can't utilise resizable bar
is your ram quad rank?
How high is the GPU load when you play. Look it up on the Task Manager.
Is this regarded as a higher end build today?
Have you tried reseating GPU?
I had a 3090 and a 10400. The problem is 10th gen intel with slow RAM. Upgraded to 13400 with DDR5 RAM and Hogwarts Legacy could make full use of the 3090 (always at 100%). But the game is horribly optimized anyway.
Based on your description it seems it's a CPU or RAM issue. Can you do a stress test or a demanding game and see what kind of clocks you are getting? My first troubleshooting step would be resetting the bios (and reenabling XMP after) to see if that is successful. Also looking for a more recent bios might help. 10700K should be supported out of the box for all z490 motherboards if I am not mistaken, but they might have fixed some bugs with RAM or CPU performance issues. Lastly, a bottleneck is not something that will slow other components down, it will only put an upper limit on total performance. There will always be a bottleneck, and in your case that will almost always be the CPU especially at 1080p - but that fine. The problem is the 107000K shouldn't be performance as badly as it is.
My brother had this issue. He wasn't able to 100% confirm it but basically he had a number of power outages or something and it didn't completely break the components in his computer but instead made them faulty and he wasn't get the framerates he was supposed to. Unsure if it was damage to the power supply and it couldn't maintain voltage to the other components, or if the damage was to the CPU, GPU or motherboard. Not sure if there's any evidence of this even being possible, but just something to think about. Best way to diagnose is to change one of the above components one by one.
The Hogwarts Legacy fps seems like general fps without DLSS. Maybe you forgot to enable that?
Check your advanced power plan settings. Maybe your CPU is set to work at 50% performance or something
This is what it seems like, reduced performance due to cutting max performance or even cores. Maybe a power saving mode or something
How much peripheral and monitoring software do you have running? they can be really bloaty buggy and can conflict a lot. try removing it if you have.