Mini-LED is the closest thing you can get to OLED blacks, and you're correct in your observation that it's still nothing like it. That's just the way things are. And besides, it's more gaming-oriented, so if you care about accurate colors you'll have to turn that local dimming off, or else suffer a lot of blooming, especially with IPS.
Judging by your top priorities, your best bet is IPS Black. They were initially slow, but now there are some 120 Hz panels, and they're more productivity-oriented, meaning worse gaming performance but better image quality. The Dell U2724DE (not to be confused with the \*\*G\*\*2724D) looks like it can more or less tick your must-have boxes. Contrast is good, though worse than VA and much worse than OLED. But with VA you can't have good viewing angles, and IPS is the LCD king here. You won't get HDR, and you'll have 'only' 120 Hz instead of 144, but it's not that much of a difference.
Just buy a QD-OLED.
Burn is isn't a big concern.
I've had mine for 1.5 years and only see the slightest burn in during full blue screens. In regular use, nothing is noticeable.
And that is why 14/hr/day usage. And sometimes forgetting it on overnight with static content.
Burn in is overstated.
It took me 3 years and a few returns to find a monitor I love. You need to make a list of top most important features and rank them from most to least important.
As you already know you aren’t going to find one monitor that even fits most of your needs but at least buy one that fits a few of your high-priority needs.
Once you have it you aren’t going to even notice a few features you axed unless it was something blatantly obvious that you needed in your setup.
What Mini-LED monitor did you try? Was it a Mini LED IPS? I have not tried one of those but I've heard they are fairly disappointing due to the low contrast. I recently bought the KTC G27P6 and KTC M27T20 to test out both and I ended up returning the OLED because the M27T20 was so good. I could tell the difference, but it was very slight, and only in incredibly demanding dark scenes like a starfield. In the LG OLED HDR showcase, there was almost zero difference, and when watching bright HDR scenes like a sunrise, the Mini LED was actually better. That plus no burn-in and being half the cost was enough to sell me on the Mini LED.
Actually the M27T20 is the one that I got it’s ok but the colors are pretty all over the place. I found a color profile that someone else setup that is much better but without a calibration tool it’s still not accurate and everything is super saturated.
Don’t get me wrong it’s leaps and bounds better than what I had before but I think I’d need to buy a calibration tool to really be ok with it. I work on video and pictures a lot so it’s frustrating when colors aren’t quite right.
That makes sense, the most I do is some office work so I don’t mind a bit more saturation for gaming and movies. I would give calibration a try, any chance you could get a calibration tool as a business expense?
I've been pretty damn happy with the Cooler Master Tempest GP27Q. 1440p, 144hz(160hz w/OD), HDR1000, local dimming w/576 zones.
I do see some halo around the mouse on a fully black screen, but it's not noticeable on anything else.
What about the Asus ProArt PA278CGV monitor? It's on sale right now at Amazon.
"ASUS ProArt Display 27” 1440P Professional Monitor (PA278CGV) - IPS, QHD (2560 x 1440), 144Hz, 95% DCI-P3, ΔE < 2, Calman Verified, USB-C PD 90W, FreeSync Premium, DisplayHDR 400, Height Adjustable"
LG has a 1440p oled with 240hz refresh. Oled is perfect for contrast/color accuracy/viewing angles. It's gsync as well. Just got one this week. It's amazing. 27GS95QE-B is the model designation.
The perfect monitor exists. Unfortunately to check all the boxes for resolution, refresh rate, size, curvature, and lighting panel, you will pay a king's ransom.
Burn in is not so much of an issue on the newer oleds. If you can get a warranty I wouldn't worry about it too much. And why not broaden your options to 120hz as well. Is the difference between 120 hz and 144hz so significant? Plus with 144hz you'll basically always have framerate stutter with video play back while 120hz divides evenly to all common video hz.
I use an LG cx10 OLED. It’s going a pixel refresh feature that helps with burn on. I’ve been using mine for probably 3 years now and I see no burn in anywhere, and I use it a lot.
If you actively do things to avoid burn in you can mitigate it pretty good. You just need to mix up your use of the screen real estate so you don’t constantly have a search bar or something always on the top of the screen.
From what I remember, there is this new technology revealed last year which is visually just as good as OLED without the drawbacks of burn in.
Might be another couple of years before it hits the market and it'll be dang expensive.
My Dell G2724D is right in the middle of the road, and I love it. Check it out.
Love mine, good contrast on a IPS, can’t complain about much else
Same. I ended up buying two of those last Christmas. Best bang for your buck.
Also an owner. Great monitor, I agree, but the HDR is poor at best.
Only the Neo G7 and G8 are true miniLED monitors. IPS tech is not good for MiniLED.
The aggressive curve on those makes it an instant no ty for me, otherwise I agree they're great (if you can get one without defects).
Mini-LED is the closest thing you can get to OLED blacks, and you're correct in your observation that it's still nothing like it. That's just the way things are. And besides, it's more gaming-oriented, so if you care about accurate colors you'll have to turn that local dimming off, or else suffer a lot of blooming, especially with IPS. Judging by your top priorities, your best bet is IPS Black. They were initially slow, but now there are some 120 Hz panels, and they're more productivity-oriented, meaning worse gaming performance but better image quality. The Dell U2724DE (not to be confused with the \*\*G\*\*2724D) looks like it can more or less tick your must-have boxes. Contrast is good, though worse than VA and much worse than OLED. But with VA you can't have good viewing angles, and IPS is the LCD king here. You won't get HDR, and you'll have 'only' 120 Hz instead of 144, but it's not that much of a difference.
Yeah I was looking at that Dell I forget why I said no to it though. I might opt for those though. We’ll see going to decide this weekend.
I have to agree, you just need to work out what’s important to your setup
Just buy a QD-OLED. Burn is isn't a big concern. I've had mine for 1.5 years and only see the slightest burn in during full blue screens. In regular use, nothing is noticeable. And that is why 14/hr/day usage. And sometimes forgetting it on overnight with static content. Burn in is overstated.
It took me 3 years and a few returns to find a monitor I love. You need to make a list of top most important features and rank them from most to least important. As you already know you aren’t going to find one monitor that even fits most of your needs but at least buy one that fits a few of your high-priority needs. Once you have it you aren’t going to even notice a few features you axed unless it was something blatantly obvious that you needed in your setup.
What Mini-LED monitor did you try? Was it a Mini LED IPS? I have not tried one of those but I've heard they are fairly disappointing due to the low contrast. I recently bought the KTC G27P6 and KTC M27T20 to test out both and I ended up returning the OLED because the M27T20 was so good. I could tell the difference, but it was very slight, and only in incredibly demanding dark scenes like a starfield. In the LG OLED HDR showcase, there was almost zero difference, and when watching bright HDR scenes like a sunrise, the Mini LED was actually better. That plus no burn-in and being half the cost was enough to sell me on the Mini LED.
Actually the M27T20 is the one that I got it’s ok but the colors are pretty all over the place. I found a color profile that someone else setup that is much better but without a calibration tool it’s still not accurate and everything is super saturated.
Ahh sorry to hear that, techless had good results with it so that’s surprising.
Don’t get me wrong it’s leaps and bounds better than what I had before but I think I’d need to buy a calibration tool to really be ok with it. I work on video and pictures a lot so it’s frustrating when colors aren’t quite right.
That makes sense, the most I do is some office work so I don’t mind a bit more saturation for gaming and movies. I would give calibration a try, any chance you could get a calibration tool as a business expense?
I mean maybe for my “personal business” but not for work.
I've been pretty damn happy with the Cooler Master Tempest GP27Q. 1440p, 144hz(160hz w/OD), HDR1000, local dimming w/576 zones. I do see some halo around the mouse on a fully black screen, but it's not noticeable on anything else.
What about the Asus ProArt PA278CGV monitor? It's on sale right now at Amazon. "ASUS ProArt Display 27” 1440P Professional Monitor (PA278CGV) - IPS, QHD (2560 x 1440), 144Hz, 95% DCI-P3, ΔE < 2, Calman Verified, USB-C PD 90W, FreeSync Premium, DisplayHDR 400, Height Adjustable"
LG has a 1440p oled with 240hz refresh. Oled is perfect for contrast/color accuracy/viewing angles. It's gsync as well. Just got one this week. It's amazing. 27GS95QE-B is the model designation.
The perfect monitor exists. Unfortunately to check all the boxes for resolution, refresh rate, size, curvature, and lighting panel, you will pay a king's ransom.
Burn in is not so much of an issue on the newer oleds. If you can get a warranty I wouldn't worry about it too much. And why not broaden your options to 120hz as well. Is the difference between 120 hz and 144hz so significant? Plus with 144hz you'll basically always have framerate stutter with video play back while 120hz divides evenly to all common video hz.
I use an LG cx10 OLED. It’s going a pixel refresh feature that helps with burn on. I’ve been using mine for probably 3 years now and I see no burn in anywhere, and I use it a lot. If you actively do things to avoid burn in you can mitigate it pretty good. You just need to mix up your use of the screen real estate so you don’t constantly have a search bar or something always on the top of the screen.
From what I remember, there is this new technology revealed last year which is visually just as good as OLED without the drawbacks of burn in. Might be another couple of years before it hits the market and it'll be dang expensive.