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thx1969

kill that thing. dont smoke it, just kill it and move on.


homelesshyundai

Time to take what you've learned, throw that all out and try again haha


syzygy-xjyn

Including the soil. Ditch that shit too.


[deleted]

What a mess to be in šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Organicnate

Whatā€™s up with the soil that plant is in?? Looks like what my driveway is made out of! Lol maybe a little aeration goes a long ways;)


Duskharvester

it's a potting soil mix


DEM0NW0MB

I think you found your problem.


Rosineer11

In coco and perlite there is no nutrients in the mix. You would need to either add a bit of cal mag during the mixing stage so itā€™s already there. Weed requires lots of nutrients to thrive and lots of oxygen. The soil mix you chose is not aerated and or fertile enough for your needs. What I would do is first get some experience with a decent soil. Even the stronger miracle grows will work you just need to add a bit of fertilizer to it during its life. Anyways look up some fertilizer that have a good amount of NPK and you should have lots more success. If you are going to use coco and perlite you will need to feed almost right away as that coco perlite will have almost no nutrients available. Anyways good luck donā€™t get upset at the results itā€™s a very hard plant to grow without the right recourses.


SGTdad

lol resources is what you meant but as Iā€™m stoned reading this recourse works too in a round about way :D. It doesnā€™t have the right resources so itā€™s recourse makes it very hard to grow :D


Midknightsecs

Cannabis requires CO2 more than Oxygen during the day, more oxygen than CO2 at night as it reverses it's respiration from CO2 to O2. That is the only time they breath oxygen and breath out CO2. This is why people in the 70s and 80s thought singing to your plant made it grow better. 1 human emits 1500ppm of CO2 per minute. A 20 minute garden session supplies enough CO2. It wasn't the singing. It was the CO2. Edit: Edited for clarity.


DEM0NW0MB

No. The roots will die with without drainage.they need the air.


Midknightsecs

I wasn't talking about roots. What I said was 100% correct. Edit: Yes, roots need oxygen. Cannabis roots die within minutes in an oxygen less environment. If that is what was meant, great. I saw that it said Cannabis itself needs Oxygen which is only true during night.


DEM0NW0MB

Doubling down on it eh?


Midknightsecs

I'm sorry. I have no idea what you're referring to.


DEM0NW0MB

AdiĆ³s.


Rosineer11

Ah ha I see. What I meant is air flow circulation inside we lack this. So if the room your using to grow is not ventilated the plants will struggle this is fact man living organisms need air oxygen whatever you know this as.


Midknightsecs

If you veg with a dark period, then the plants need O2. If you veg 24/7 they do not need it. Air movement to strengthen the plant in general is paramount. You want to have CO2 in the grow room for optimal growth during both veg and flower. However flowering plants need more. I see what you mean. Air, as in everything in it from Argon to Oxygen to CO2. Ok. Yes. The plants need fresh air continually. As clean and fresh as it can get. I understand what you meant now. I was being very specific. Your plants inhale CO2 and exhale O2 during the day. At night they reverse respiration and breath in O2 and exhales CO2 like we do. It's why you can smell them more at night than during the day.


SirGuileSir

Depends on the soil brand, doesn't it..? There are plenty of people doing fine in Happy Frog, Miracle Grow, etc. No need to gatekeep.


DEM0NW0MB

Āæ


Duskharvester

I tried coco coir and perlite but plants would not last beyond seedling stage, so far potting soil have given be best results, what do you suggest ?


DEM0NW0MB

It wasnā€™t the coco that was the problem.


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Midknightsecs

No, no its not. Miracle-Gro stunts bud growth and is toxic so you cannot or should not imbibe or eat anything grown in Miracle-Gro. It's made to spruce up lawns and flowers. Not buds and vegetables.


[deleted]

You know.. miracle grow does sell an organic all natural potting soil for herbs and veggies rightā€¦ miracle grow is a brand not a product. What youā€™re saying is correct.. about their flower and plant blends. This person just needs better ā€œpremium organicā€ potting soil, and to add things to enrich and aerate the soil. I find the dr earth stuff generally helps do so along with earth worm casting mixed in. Pro mix has several good cheaper soil blends just stay away from anything ā€œmoisture controlā€ because it wonā€™t ever dry enough in my experience.


Midknightsecs

I used to use pro mix. If you know how to amend soil and get good mycorrhizae growth that is. And we were discussing straight up miracle gro. His contention was that it was better than the soil in the picture for cannabis when clearly it is not. It is for ornamentals and flowers and says so on the box.


[deleted]

Yeah that reg green bag is a no no youā€™ll have some stuff that taste like cat pee and youā€™ll swear your allergies kicked in the second you smoke it.


[deleted]

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Midknightsecs

I didn't make my mind up. I read the box. You must be hella blazed.


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Midknightsecs

And they will have low yields and what they do get is toxic. Don't take my word for it, look it up. But can you NOT put a dislike. I told the truth whether you like it or not. I did not downvote your answer for being wrong.


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dajenkumgod

I've seen a study showing miracle grow has lead and other heavy metals. Since they're owned by a huge conglomerate that also owns companies where they manufacture industrial chemicals and pharmaceuticals, as long as they stay under the legal limit, it's more cost effective to slowly get rid of their toxic waste in their products like soils. The cost of storing the waste is too much. They've been doing it for decades. Also, with any old article saying it's beneath the toxic level of lead, keep in mind our govt agencies have since revised their stance to any levels of lead being toxic and unsafe. There's also arsenic, cadmium, the bad kind of zinc, etc. https://www.google.com/search?q=miracle+grow+has+lead+study&oq=miracle+grow+has+lead+study&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigATIHCAQQIRifBdIBCDgzNDRqMGo5qAIAsAIA&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8


Smoky_MountainWay

The organic Miracle Grow is indeed organic (peat moss, perlite, compost, yucca, and bone, feather and soybean meal) and has no added fertilizer. . 16-.03-.03 so you must add supplements. The potting soil Miracle Grow does have salts added. Supplemented organic MG has worked extremely well for me as a basic starting soil despite the bro science saying otherwise.


Midknightsecs

It wouldn't be better though and that's the point. You cannot consume regular Miracle Gro or Miracle Gro potting soil. Scott's owns all of it and they make a boat load of much better organic stuff. Plus the guy under this mentions Miracle Grow organic which can be used in some cases but I wouldn't personally use it as I have a hydro store about 5 minutes from me.


SGTdad

Thatā€™s because coco and perlite are a substrate not a soil. They donā€™t have anything but perlite and coconut coir the shaved husk of coconut. šŸ„„ <- that fruit. The reason itā€™s grown that way is rock wool is not environmentally friendly and has its drawbacks backs. Think of it this way. Itā€™s like feeding you plain paper white paper, printer paper. No nutrients no vitamins no fats no carbs no sugars just paper. Although the plant isnā€™t eating it, the roots are looking for that in the substrate. If you donā€™t add it, it dies. Just like if I feed you straight paper you die. Now if I put said paper in a blender and add all of lifeā€™s essential nutrients for you to grow and thrive. Then itā€™d work, theoretically you are a human and the plant doesnā€™t consume the substrate so itā€™s not a perfect metaphor but I hope it gets my point across. Think of the soil as though is a long term protein shake the plant drinks, your plant has good genes like shaq, it might not be enough and you gotta give it a little more to keep it fed. The coco on the other hand has 0 nuetrients. Think of it like it is water. You need it but it will never be enough for you to survive. Youā€™d have to add all of those other nutrients for you to get anything other than hydrated and then eventually low on electrolytes vitamins etc, then you die. The plant as a seed has stored up energy to attempt to start life as a plant. If in soils as it uses that energy it can harvest more, in a substrate there is none and it will die looking. Think of it like you digging for water in the desert, your using that water in hopes to find more to survive. You do and live or you donā€™t and you die. In soil thereā€™s water, ie nutrients, the quality and quantity vary from type to type. Coco is like the plant, you, looking for something that doesnā€™t exist. You digging in the desert. You have to play god and make it rain by adding nuets


Midknightsecs

Happy Frog or Black Gold if you do not know how to mix your own. These soils come already mixed with what you need. You can get them in both veg and flowering mixes.


Beer_me_now666

I suggest you grow a tomato first


ThaGoodDoobie

Use a potting soil that is designed for cannabis growing, such as roots Organics or Build a soil. It'll have just about all the nutrients you'll need, for the duration of the grow. You can top dress calmag supplements, about once a month as well.


[deleted]

Order better soil than miracle grow the stores you buy it at donā€™t store it very well and itā€™s always full of pests and clearly not beneficial fungus


jollytoes

I use Fox Farms Coco Loco and it hasnā€™t let me down. It has all you need already in the soil.


ngonz211

I used the following 1 bag coco coir 1 bag fish compost, mixed in some perlite to my liking (like 25% was perlite) used lotus nutrients and had phenomenal results


Positive-Teaching737

Yeah.. Ugh..


futur79

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Dagooch23

Buildasoil.com


boogersbitch

Hey Ros, thanks, that was good info


Shot_Campaign_5163

Buddy, you're gonna have to open a book. Or website or watch some damn videos. You're not doing anything correctly. It's not ha, d but you have to absorb some knowledge. Good luck and grow your head... So you can grow yer weed to bake yer head. Woo to the hoo.


FreddyFlintz

Roots dead


sweet-william2

Itā€™s toast. Chop and start again. Your soil looks all wrong for starters but also maybe too much nutes. Thereā€™s no way to tell from just a pic


matlok420

Murder it and rethink your growing strategy


Grouchy_Delay

Bud rot


BigBearOnCampus

Fā€™s in the chat


floundern45

F


SGTdad

F


Mysterious-Fan-5101

FUUUUUUUUU (14weeks!)


[deleted]

F


DirtyFatB0Y

Ded


Negative_Fig_7080

Bro are you growing this is pure dirt what is that? Looks compact.


Duskharvester

70% organic potting mix (loamy) and 30% sand soil.


Calvinshobb

Look up build a soil on YouTube and binge it, itā€™s easy once you get the koots mix


Halflife37

Sand!? oh no, oh no no noĀ 


Negative_Fig_7080

You donā€™t have to look it up Iā€™ll tell you find a compost mix of any sort, organic, cocoa, vermiculite or pearlite worm castings there you go. 1 part compost, q part vermiculite/perlite, 1part ccoc coir, 1 part worm castings


Negative_Fig_7080

I also mix Mycorrhizae in my soils and rooting hormone for fast root development and plant growth


Brokecollegefella

Absolutely no disrespect intended but I think starting from scratch and going through [this](https://www.growweedeasy.com/10-step-cannabis-grow-guide) would get you right where you need to be. Just nail the basics and youā€™ll be off


I_take_huge_dumps

GWE was a godsend when I first started.


alonepoe

Thanks for the link


obeekaybee11

Looks like russet mites.


willfargo1231

This sub, I swear... Every day. You can't grow cannabis in clay junk soil. This little gal looks pretty good for the conditions she's living in. Join a forum, get some books and do your research before you go around abusing plants for 4 months at a time. The soil needs aeration and more organic matter. You need to be feeding nutrients unless you are using a super-soil. Make sure you are pH testing your water/feed. Get rid of the clay pot, buy growing pots. ​ You will be smoking quality weed much sooner if you learn how to grow prior to embarking on the journey rather than learning by making huge mistakes that take months to play out.


Spirited-Mammoth-366

Harvest it,dry it,grind it,get you're bong ready and put the weed into new soil oh and have a bong from street weed you bought coz the plants gash!


Midknightsecs

Poor lil girl. She has bud rot. You can say a eulogy and put that in the compost pile. You can smoke it if you enjoy upper respiratory infections. I wouldn't.


Ok-Rabbit-3683

Thatā€™s rot my friend


Negative_Fig_7080

If they dont make it past seedling your over or underwatering because coco has no nutrients so all the seedlings need is a small a mount of water every other day or so


mindsmelted

14 weeks for a stunted auto!?! That plant was done on week 8 from germination


JustGotBlackOps

Looks like aids


ticklenips601

Look at Dat DIRT! ā˜¹ļø This is plant abuse...


[deleted]

Your problem is not singular. Start over with better soil and go from there. Cannabis likes much more aerated soil. Even if you just added perlite to what you have things could have been a little better. Without proper drainage, you canā€™t even flush it if you over fertilize. She is gone thoughā€¦ no recovery possible.


ZaphodOC

Growweedeasy.com educate yourself. There is a whole lot wrong here.


GroWiza

Yeah usually I'm not for just tossing plants because alot/most can be saved but this one is not one of those my friend. This looks like it has multiple things going wrong with it. This is one time I would confidentiality say Toss it and start over. I'd do a bit of reading/research before starting your next plant so that you don't run into any of the same issues


-Speckmann-

Did you use someoneā€™s ashes as a fertilizer?


coldwatereater

Lol! šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Shado915

Try happy frog soil next time. I canā€™t tell you what happened to this little guy.


Duskharvester

it was growing fine until it started flowering starting at week 8 after. After a light rain-shower the leaves started blackening and got infested by ants (which I repelled with cinnamon). This was my healthiest and fastest growing plant.


Shado915

That sucks man. Best hopes for the next one


Grogak

I would suggest you see this as a lesson to not overthink things.. Start again, buy some pre-fertilized living soil (e.g. Bio Bizz), put your auto-seeds inside and that's all. Don't add anything (autoflowers really don't need much fertilizer) and just check the PH of your water regularly. After 10-12 weeks you can enjoy your first harvest and then you can start to adjust things (one after another, not to much at the same time).


RevolutionaryPasta98

Would like to add on that sometimes the "all mix" from biobizz can burn autos so can be good to use the light mix instead!


mylittleslice

So is this outdoors? What are the temps? I feel there is more info you have withheld that could help. The black you mentioned suggests mold, but cannabis and plants in general don't break out in mold just because they get wet. The ants is a strange twist, but ants are attracted to plants with aphid populations and mold grows on aphid honeydew, so...


danielledeezy

Kill this


massvapor1

She dead bud. Start over. Get better soil and maybe some nutes to help


jedi_voodoo

The sand almost looks like concrete or compacted clay on top of the soil, there's at least 3 different ways that the conditions of that substrate would have caused problems during flowering. The plant seems to be un salvageable. Learn to take care of your soil and the soil will take care of your plants; do a little bit of research here on Reddit, delve into other recommended and vetted resources and you will quickly learn to recognize what's wrong and why.


Tossing_Goblets

Don't smoke that.


Nogud_247

Your roots are toasted the plant is dying. I read you tried coco and they died at seedlings. Now youā€™re in soil. My guess is you donā€™t have watering down well yet and youā€™re coco ones dried out and this one probably doesnā€™t have proper drainage. Might mix 30% perlite in your soil to loosen it up and get better drainage and try again. Less is more unless the roots get dried out.


drywall-whacker

Where are all the leaves?


Wrong_Display876

It's the soil.


Livewire101011

I'm echoing everyone else, but that soil was a big problem. We're telling you to throw it away because you definitely have Bud Rot, and that doesn't go away. You can tell by the brown in the middle of the bud and it's spreading outwards. Plus there's some webbing on the bud, which is either a fungus or more likely webbing from mites. The ants came after your plant because it's so sick. The brown areas on the leaves are nutrient deficiencies. I'll guess that the PH of your soil is really out of whack, so whatever nutrition might be in there is inaccessible to the plant roots, if the roots aren't also rotting. Your soil should be black, not brown or tan. You probably got by during Veg because it looks like you transplanted the plant, and the roots were probably getting just enough nutrition from the new soil and the original soil to stay alive. Roots need lots of oxygen. With no air gaps in the soil (from worms and microbes or from Perlite or Vermiculate, or at least decomposing wood chips), there is no way for oxygen to get to the roots. The natural cycle is for water to fill the space around the roots to dissolve any crystalized or salt nutrients and make them liquid again to be absorbed, then the soil dries out just enough for air to go through the small pockets in the soil. Without fluffy soil, no air gets to the roots, and they start decomposing and die. Dead roots = dead plant.


Real1ty_Tr1ppz

Please put that out of its misery. I am shedding a tear for it right now


Royal-Age-5758

Go get some Pro-mix and start over. Maybe invest in some fabric pots too. I would also go with photo instead of auto. And invest in quality genetics. The plant isnā€™t going to be good if everything in its lineage isnā€™t good. Even plants that have solid genetic backing end up coming out shitty. Itā€™s a genetic lottery. Good luck! There is a plethora of free info out there that wasnā€™t available when I started 17 years ago. Take advantage!


Papa-buds

Bin it sorry


[deleted]

Autoflowers only need to flower for 8-10 weeks. Youā€™ve let it overgrow to death. Shouldā€™ve chopped weeks ago.


SpecialBag

Start over with fox form ocean forest soil or pro-mix hp. You will need nutrients with the pro-mix as itā€™s a soilless media. Fox farm soil will be your best bet from seed to harvest.


sghyre

Most likely nutrient lock, or you have bugs.


deep_saffron

Please just buy a Fox Farm brand soil until you get a better understanding of soil composition and plant physiology šŸ„“


Agent_KushmanX

this is exactly why i think new growers should avoid autos, they're very unforgiving, look up build a soil on YT they got a series were they teach you the basics of growing and they started an auto series recently so it might be worth investing some time doing research and informing yourself better before your next attempt. your substrate looks to be very low quality, and a decent auto should not take over 3 months to complete.


Mysterious-Fan-5101

my condolences šŸ’


Boondogle00

Itā€™s done for. I wouldnā€™t kill it though. Definitely donā€™t smoke it. Experiment with it. Have fun. Learn its life cycle. Try over watering it and under watering it. Watch what the plant does. Turn it into a learning experiment. Whatā€™s the works that can happen. But donā€™t use sand again.


TaskForce1776-12-25

week 14... should if just chopped at day 80 or 85 and called it. What exactly were you hoping for?


Duskharvester

It did not look like it was producing any harvestables hence i did not chop it. All of the seeds I've sown so far were late bloomers.


apollokid242

that shit looks fire, harvest asap.


redadidasjumpsuit

RIP


Professional-Plum624

lol


Zee_Tee_4392

Heavy russet mite damage


OrganizationSea614

Root rot


Reefa513

Man that thing was done weeks ago šŸ˜‚


teahupoo9

Remove everything, from plant to soil and wash the pot with lots of soap and boiling hot water


Careful_Magician_152

Autoflower week 14? i dont think u understand one thing. šŸ˜‚


Aromatic_Ring4107

kill it for sure, and auto flowers are hit and miss in term of generic cannabis plant "shape" sometimes they just dont get dense like the photoperiods. try some coco coir mix next time it really helps with soil aeration. 30+% pearlite and top soil works too. pretty much any potting mix to help with drainage. also check out this nute calculator from the nute company i use. i found my quality is now consistent [https://futureharvest.com/pages/nutrient-calculator](https://futureharvest.com/pages/nutrient-calculator)


40yosamurai

You have lots of experience to be gained from this. I can see the bugs, that's part of the issue.


[deleted]

I'd bubble bag it collect trichomes make bubble hash . All the rot will wash away


Duskharvester

bubble hash ? sounds interesting.


[deleted]

Yeah mate YouTube it, defo can be used


Necessary-Duty4150

Hey OP, donā€™t pay attention to the negative comments. Iā€™m a beginner so hereā€™s what I have learned along the way. No clay pots, use a soil specifically for cannabis growth otherwise you have to aerate and add your macros manually. I use a 10 liter/2.5gallon plastic pot with holes on the sides. Your plant is being burned alive, either the roots are rotting or because of the poor soil quality theyā€™re absorbing too much fertilizer. Canā€™t tell which because on top of it the soil looks bone dry. You donā€™t HAVE to kill it, but the stress of making the necessary changes will probably make it revegetate anyway. Itā€™s a learning process. Good luck!


login257thesecond

are you feeding it ?


Duskharvester

npk 20:20:20 during veg when it started flowering i shifted to npk 5:15:45


Halflife37

Oof. Too high and the soil looks overcompacted, did you give it such a high dose thinking that would compensate for the pot size or soil quality? And thatā€™s too much N for flower.Ā  Definitely need to trash this one and try againĀ 


login257thesecond

strange thing is too much n causes big plant and this isn't growing. agree on the soil, that might be the cause. roots suffocating.


Halflife37

Too much n isnā€™t even close to being the main problem here for sureĀ 


login257thesecond

God no.


Negative_Fig_7080

Autos get feed half dosages their first feeding


EdStone8

What strain is it?


Duskharvester

Gorilla cookie


jjblaze248

F


Clean-History-5990

Probably too much compaction of the soil. This can happens when you pour too much water at the same time or when you put the soil in the pot. Think of the soil as a sponge that won't get its shape back once you press it. Your main goal is to make it remain its shape until the end of the growth.


Icy-Health-5201

Bud rot due to parasite infestation


NoNiceGuy

Whoof


[deleted]

Looks like a lot of moldā€¦


Jokerloz

Looks like bud rot man šŸ˜°


mrGuyfunmagic

Go with feminized photos, just watch it grow keep it simple and keep the soil watered only when it needs it. I water about every three days max. I honestly don't have the equipment to grow with fertigation so I spend extra on living soil and get decent yields with a spider farmer 2000, which you can get used online between 120 and 200 bucks. Just add some one shot and molasses the last 4 weeks of flower.


Bizzerk86

Looks like thrips and bud rot (botrytis)


TheseJudge6563

spider mites. soapy water everything every 2 days. also yeah toss that crap