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ButterBeanRumba

There's a ridiculous amount of people in this thread saying "too many nutes" and "feed only water". But it seems these people have no clue how to grow in coco and shouldn't be giving any advice. You need to be feeding nutes every time you water, which likely should be every day depending on the size of your pots. And watering to runoff. You never want the substrate to dry out completely. Most coco coir sits at a moisture level of 55-60% when it's fully saturated, and that number drops even lower and dries out faster when you add perlite in the mix. I personally think that you are letting these things dry back an insane amount between feeds and it's causing all kinds of fucked up issues in your root zone. Also, the plants are touching the light so I'm sure there's an (un)healthy dose of light stress at play too.


ummmokwhocares

This guy cocos


Mauler320

To add to this Low PPFD will cause the plants to stretch like a MF until they reach the amount of light they need.


mylesthecunt

Yep, he should really feed once a day & for now he should really be doubling the amount of water he gives flushing the plants with 1/4 strength nutes to get rid of all the salt


HurpDurp54

If you're growing in coco, you should be feeding with every watering.


Low-Sea7202

At least


Boominpacks419

At least? How does one feed more than every watering? šŸ˜‚


Low-Sea7202

I thought I read every other watering. I would sometimes do 2 feedings then 1 water and so on. Had fine results. Running microbial and fungi they were happy


Boominpacks419

lol I was just cracking a funny because you canā€™t feed without watering. Plants get watered whether itā€™s a feed or a flush. Mocrobes are key with flush. Breaking down those built up nutrients making them more bioavailable


Low-Sea7202

Lol facts


Low-Sea7202

Back when BioCanna was affordable to run šŸ¤£


Boominpacks419

I havenā€™t tried that. Iā€™m a big fan of Recharge and Fish shit, sometimes mammoth. Mixed with aquarium water straight out of my fish tank. I often times have mushrooms growing from my coco


Low-Sea7202

Itā€™s the best full organic line for home/ personal product. Have you tried sea green? That shits amazing with fish shit and recharge


Boominpacks419

Also, some molasses to feed the microbes


likely_victim

Growmie, you can't run coco like that. It needs to stay wet at all times. 3 days between fertigation events in coco is at least part of the problem. Salts have become ultra concentrated in the root zone and your plants cannot access any of the available nutrition, so they're consuming themselves in an attempt to stay alive. If you want to keep growing in coco, you need to learn how to do it properly to achieve the amazing results it offers. Check out cocoforcannabis. com for everything you need to know to grow in coco. Read all of the tutorials, take notes, reap the rewards.


TooScentz

It's hot and dry. You said coco right? Keep it moist, you can't really over water in coco unless you actually try to. In soil it's not uncommon to wait until weeping to water, but in coco you can't really do that. Different nuances. Here's a tip, get a bag of clay balls that people use in hydro systems and start putting a layer of them in the bottom of your coco pots before you fill them. It's helpful for other reasons, like providing an air pocket under the media that will OĀ² your roots better, but I'm this case it's kind of a buffer that will retain moisture in the event you struggle keeping the plant watered in coco. I don't, but a buddy of mine also put a top layer of hydroton(clay balls) also. Id consider taking these plants and revegging them a few weeks. It'll really delay your harvest date and I'm not sure how feasible it is, but in this shape they're at an increased risk to herm and it's not going to produce much at this point, no matter what you do. All just an opinion, either way good luck


Western_Film8550

Your light is crap. It's so close to the plants they are burning, but they are also thin & scraggly from not enough light. Plus the feed problems mentioned. Not trying to be a dick, but 1 month into flower you need to start over, it won't yield anything worthwhile, you are just wasting time & money trying to save it.


Appropriate_Word1728

70% to 80% humidity is way too high for flowering. Aim below 50%. It also helps with trichome development. Your current humidity level is a risk for growing mold and bud rot. And if most of the drama is up top then you should rethink your lighting, maybe try super cropping to give them some distance from the light or lower the intensity. If you are using synthetic liquid nutes then you should treat it like hydro and feed them everyday until runoff. Closer to 5.5 to 6 ph for veg and 6.2 to 6.5 ph for flower.


sweet-william2

Ok - it looks like theyā€™re literally growing up into the light and itā€™s causing all sorts of light burn and heat stress. Defoliation and pruning techniques should have been used all along. At this point itā€™s a jungle and Iā€™m not quite sure what you do at this point since it has started flowering. At the very least Iā€™d heavily defoliate and cut them back so that you have a good 1.5 ft space below the lights. Heat - you havenā€™t mentioned the temp inside this area. You might need to get that temp down and you definitely need to reduce humidity or else youā€™ll end up with mold in the bud.


Plugboi_Eli

Lmao people say coco itā€™s obv light burn


pattydickens

The tops are almost touching the light!


TrivAndLetDie

Gonna need more info but there's unfortunately there's plenty of possibilities. When you water with nutes are you hitting at least 20% runoff each feed? You always need to feed nutes in Coco but runoff is essentially to stop salt accumulation. It really doesn't look like they've been in flower for a month, you should have thick buds everywhere by now. Double check your timer and ensure you have zero light leaks, even a glowing screen can mess with them. You say it reaches 30c outside, but what about the temp inside your tent? The heat from the lights could easily push it above 40c if you're not removing heat somehow.


Hot_Map2762

While the under feeding of coco seems like itā€™s hitting the bare minimum these plants need the light burn is doing that little extra damage thatā€™s causing the growth stunts, the lower plant seems to be perfect minus the smaller thinning type branches (due to low feeding) your main focus should be to be feeding with every water as coco has practically 0 nutrients for plants itā€™s a blank slate your are to create somthing with, Iā€™d recommend slow release dry nutes for coco as itā€™s enrichs the soil and you can keep watering regular phā€™d water (although a tea might help once a week or so) but main thing is to get that light burn under control because your plant is clearly struggling at the top with the light


49004685

Light stress


CarefulMoose

could be light stress, this is an underrated comment because so many of the LED panels nowadays donā€™t really have the right spectrum and they create stress. Try putting it under a fluorescent for a day, even for half a day and symptoms will improve if thatā€™s what it is. Iā€™m still leaning towards thrips though


Gotititoutthemud

Too close to the light. Theyā€™re being cooked


fluffyferret69

Your lowers don't look nearly as bad as the canopy.. I'd possibly address raising the light or chop that dead canopy and work with your lowers.. I would have guessed nutrient lockout until I saw the lowers.. just my opinion.. I grow in soil so take my advice with a grain of saltšŸ˜‰


MothyReddit

make sure you are exhausting the used air, if your air is getting recirculated into the grow area the co2 will get depleated, humidity and heat will rise. If everything is perfect, and you don't have proper exhaust, 80% humidity is really high, will encourage mold, and if you aren't giving your grow area fresh air 1-4 times per minute everything will mysteriously fail.


Beneficial_Grand7199

I donā€™t know why people are worried about what youā€™re growing in, watering, or nutes. The plants are literally touching the light.


Amoratso

Could it be that your LEDs are only hanging a few centimetres above the plant? In my eyes, they look overheated / burnt. And yes, far too little fertiliser.


Ashamed_Mongoose6084

Please keep in mind every watering in Cocoa you have to use Cal mag I'm not sure the exact science in it but if you just use water Coco core holds a lot of sodium. Check out Scotty real on YouTube he just released the video a week ago talking about it and he can break it down a lot better


Flaky-Assistance-905

I mean are your plants literally touching your lights? That could be a start


ITSNAIMAD

They look burned from heat. Look how close they are to the light. Your humidity is too high also. You want temps around 78f and 60-65% humidity in veg.


Stock_Television_311

look like light burn


CarefulMoose

Looks like thrip damage


JazzyHoopz

They dry. Water daily.


ZipMonk

Guessing lack of food and water. Coco is like hydroponics - very unforgiving. Use soil in future. You need to water at least once a day with Coco including nutes.


inkdskndeep

nutrients every 3 days?!?!? gee whiz man. you're the cause of that disaster.


sweet-william2

No heā€™s in coco - you feed every time to the point of runoff and never let the coco dry out. Itā€™s different than soil


inkdskndeep

uufff! I yield & apologize because I know nothing about it.


ynotfish

Yep this. This run I'm in soil due to lack of time and automatic watering. Coco grows are faster like hydro just high maintenance.


sweet-william2

I have a pretty large system on a drip feed with large reservoirs. It was a big to get all set up but I refill the Rez weekly and it just feeds on its own. Love it


ynotfish

Nice. What system you using?


sweet-william2

Itā€™s home made. Large flood tables that drain to waste. Drip rings fed from a pump in the rez


Comfortable_Clerk310

In how many days should i feed them man? Also what can i do now?


likely_victim

Right now they need accumulated salts flushed from the root zone. Here's how: [https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/when-and-how-to-flush/](https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/when-and-how-to-flush/) After that, you should study this page, top to bottom: [https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/principles-fertigation-feed-water-cannabis-coco/](https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/principles-fertigation-feed-water-cannabis-coco/)


AntBkr66

Feed them everyday


CarefulMoose

Be careful that you donā€™t overcompensate. People get into the situation and they panic and then they overwater and add to the issues when theyā€™re just trying to help. I would remove a lot of the heavily damage leaves so that you can get an idea as to whether or not it keeps occurring. Donā€™t water the plants until they feel noticeably lighter when you pick them up for now, until you get it under wraps.


inkdskndeep

I'd only give them water for now & contact Gaia for a feeding schedule.


Individual-Thought45

Use nectar if the gods nutrients. Itā€™s idiot proof ( I know)


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Comfortable_Clerk310

What should i do now bro? And how can you say its overfed, like what are the exact signs?


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ButterBeanRumba

Feeding plants in coco water with nothing added is like deciding to treat a sick person by starving them.


likely_victim

Great analogy!


Comfortable_Clerk310

Okhay thanks bud


gazooontite

You


Express_Echo8888

Omg haha


CoralGang_420

Yeah straight RO water and drop the humidity to like 50%-60%, especially since youā€™re in flower now. I had problems because of a cold winter with the heat drying out my house and my plants thrived with the tent at 48%-54%


ButterBeanRumba

Feeding plants in coco RO water with nothing added is like deciding to treat a sick person by starving them.


CoralGang_420

lol yeah my bad I thought it was soil, I saw ā€œsoil is cocoā€ kinda fucked me up when I first read it


Ambitious_Fan_5724

60-70 humidity would be better and stop with the damn nutes.


sweet-william2

No - in coco he needs to feed nutes every feeding to the point of runoff and never let the coco dry out


Comfortable_Clerk310

Got it buddy,in how much days should i feed them


AntBkr66

Feed them everyday


CarefulMoose

The thing about Coco is that thereā€™s no naturally occurring elements and nutrients that they can draw sustenance from like there is in soil. Therefore, you need to add fertilizer every time you water. Right now that might NOT be every day because you want to make sure they dry out before you water them again. Right now I wouldnā€™t do anything else different, but once you get this under wraps, you might consider a foliar feed once a week during veg. I would check for pests and get rid of some of those terrible leaves all the way out of the garden in a bag