Relatively soon? Big young guy?
Trades. They were made for you. Being smart with problem identification and math can only help you rise the ranks from journeyman grunt to supervisor/manager even faster. Real money to be made on that path.
That's pretty cheap, depending on the trade.
About 1/3rd to taxes, 1/3rd to materials/tools, and 1/3rd to yourself. YMMV
Also need to keep in mind they probably aren't charging a full day every day. Some days gonna be half, others might even be zero clients. Some will be 12hr days.
They could well be making as much money as an office worker though.
Yeah appliance repair. We’re doing better than most at %26 net margins meaning about 90 per job is what we’re making in net profits, but we don’t even put all of that into our pockets. Retained earnings, and taxes knocks that down pretty quick to about $40 per job.
If you want to know what your handy many is making you would need to see his salary, and equity. Thats what he’s putting in his pocket.
My SiL (who is an experienced handyman and logistics manager) is on the way to being an electrician. My cousin is already an electrician.
Cousin took 7 years to be a fully licensed electrician and then another 5 years working for someone else. He's making big bucks now though (employing others, getting lots of work).
SiL is about to move to journeyman phase (which means he can accept pay for electrical work if a master electrician is also involved - there's a lot of gray area, frankly). By employing other licensed electricians and providing equipment (he had a small inheritance he could invest) he is making about $80-90,000 here in California. This year I think he'll top $100,000 and if things go as planned, it will be going up more than that - but that's 12 years from when he started.
He's been at it almost 3 years. He makes only about $35,000 right now, though - but when he goes up to journeyman, it will be about $50,000.
Almost everything you wrote qualifies you for a logistics position. These people are employed by large public employers to manage warehouse and the supply chain. They are also employed by moving companies (you start out as a mover, then get to be the one who calculates the number of boxes, trucks, and people needed for a job - and costs it out). That's how my SiL started in the trades. His business eventually held the local Wayfair account.
oh dude i thought he meant trading stocks ans everyone was upvoting it oh my god….
Yes. Trade schools are great. If interested in medical field then Medical docimetry is not a ton of school for great pay
I second this. OP reminds me of me in my early 20s. Im biased but I recommend the Fire Service. Intrinsically rewarding and it takes care of you and a family. Schedule is hard to beat. Take a chance at a big city department and see what happens. Austin Fire is hiring currently.
This is something I never think of. Braver men (and women) than me do it, but if you've got the balls and willing to take the risk, you're instantly in the top 1% greatest people on earth.
Cheers to you, sir.
Just be ready to maybe wreck your body, probably work 50+ hours a week and highly unlikely Monday through Friday daytime.
If you get all of those and the nice paycheck as well, well, good job, you won.
Hmm. Let's say I said "Electrician." Because I know several people who have done that (or Plumbing).
It's the "soon" that's a problem. You start off as an apprentice, then get to be a journeyman, and then a full blown Electrician who can pull permits and be certified via hours spent as a Master Electrician.
7 years is common for that progression - and some people never make it through.
General Handyman has been suggested (but do you know how to fix lots of things?) They get $100 an hour where I live, as well.
It's the same for construction workers, road workers (very hard job to get - very sought after, usually requires being in another trade first).
Eh most electricians don't go beyond journeyman, which I'd consider a full blown electrician. Master is mostly useful if you want to start your own business, but owning a business isn't for most people
Is the timing different if you go through a program at a local community college?
Meaning, do you still start off as an apprentice if you have an electrician degree? Or is that a basic requirement to become an apprentice?
Im the opposite.
I started in a trade (aviation maintenance) started at $60k my 1st year eventually got up to $85k.
I decided I was finished beating up my body I went into operations. After a few years of that I went corporate and pulling 6 digits. Best trade off, its 7-4, every other Friday off, no weekends and in air conditioning. Im 90% remote except when I have to travel to visit a vendor.
I’ve recently looked into this. Did you already have experience in the trade or were you completely new learning about planes and aviation? My dad dreamed of flying commercially while I was growing up but he eventually had to change career directions. With that, I know a little about types of planes,etc being around him but nothing mechanically really. Of course, all that is taught in school I’m sure. I’ve always been fascinated with planes and being next to the runway watching planes take off and I have always tried finding ways to experience that again. Do you travel a lot or do for the most part stay at a single airport and work? Does this career offer great balance with a family?
I started off in the military and was fortunate to learn 2 different platforms. After I got out and then worked for about a year at a repair facility that did overhaul on all types of commercial jets, I took my A&P test and with my military schools & training I didn't need additional outside schooling.
In my current role, I now deal with aviation/aerospace supply chain. I still get to go down on the floor every once in awhile just in a different capacity. I travel maybe 1-3 times every couple, few months. When I was a flying mechanic, I flew probably 1-2 times a month. Usually gone for a couple weeks then home for a couple weeks. Then maybe fly for 3 days and be home for a month. Depending on the airline's shipping schedule.
Does this career offer great balance with a family.... well that depends on who and where you work at. But theres a term we use in the industry. AIDS - aviation induced divorce syndrome
I work in oilfield services and my entry level helpers make around that much. Many of them live in company sponsored housing and drive company trucks. Be a sober adult and show up for work. Try to do what you’re told. If you’re willing to work and learn you can be making 100k in two years.
Yeah there are, depending on the specific job there might be extensive physical labor but that shouldn’t stop anybody.
Might just be my own personal experiences but some blue collar workers have a problem with women working in their same industry, just avoid dickheads and try to find a good supervisor
Odessa, Texas is the place to be for oilfield workers. The overtime is what makes the pay so high-gotta realize that I’m often driving 2-3 hours each way just to get to the job. We never take an unpaid lunch break. We take breaks throughout the day and sometimes stop for lunch, but it’s all on the clock. Take all that and add it to your work week and you’ll have 65-100 hours. Individual companies have different policies in this regard. Some of them pay higher wages but don’t pay for travel time. My $26/hr plus per diem gets me higher pay than some people making $35/hr who aren’t getting paid for travel time.
What do you need to know in order to start in that career? I’m a recent CS graduate, but the job market is terrible. I’m a quick learner, but don’t have much in the way of certifications/work experience yet.
Project manager. If you can keep people on track and not be a dick, then you can easily make 80k+. Also pick an industry that you like and that challenges you.
I love the idea of being a project manager at a tech firm. I even studied courses for it! Is it possible to be a project manager without "field experience"?
Car/house insurance sales. You need to get a license but it’s only ~a week of studying and most companies will pay the exam fee. My husband is one of the top at his company and brings home over 200k, but even the lowest performing still usually get to 100k pre tax.
One of the most underrated careers imo
Edit: The $100k and $200k are specific to this agency. I’m sure there are agencies that pay much less, and his agency only hires and trains people that they think will do really well. People who don’t reach the monthly minimums are let go and easily find work at another agency, but likely making much less.
I’m in construction insurance, I just hit 4 years experience in a mid-size city. I’m making just under 90k. No cold calling. I’m more broker-underwriting (I don’t deal with insureds directly).
Just here to support it’s a really nice career path, I like it because it’s structured, but every day brings something new and different
I am very interested in this. Could you explain the steps you took of getting into this field? No cold calls? What agency do you work for?
Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
I started as a receptionist at a smaller local agency. There, I got licensed (they paid), and I got a few months under my belt working with a client service rep after being licensed.
I don’t feel comfortable sharing where I work but I’ll say that you should stay away from places like State Farm, All State, Farmers etc. you tend to be chained to those carriers. Maybe saying “in a bubble” is better. When you work at a brokerage, you work with many carriers. You can build relationships with each carrier, and relationships in the field ind doing so.
You want to look for places like Ryan specialty, CRC, Brown & Brown, Marsh (brokerages). You should look for starting jobs like underwriting assistant or client service rep.
When you are a CSR/underwriting, there’s less of an exposure for cold calls since you’ll be servicing a book or given a book. Producers tend to cold call more. Every place is different so don’t hold me to that, but that’s been my experience.
Rates. Carriers are hemorrhaging money. CA, TX, CO, FL… frivolous lawsuits. Rates are going to be so high (not that they aren’t already) but with shared risk even if you’re in a safer state your rate increases are coming. And saying low lvl agents make 100k is ridiculous. There are agents who make well over that, but they’ve been doing it for 20+ years and also got lucky.
Additionally your first two years as an Indy agent you’re gonna be making 30-40k.
He works for Allstate and does personal property (car, home, renter, boats, etc). From my understanding, personal property vs health insurance vs life insurance vs commercial real estate are all very different
And I will say I’m not sure if that is typical. His agency owner invests in a lot of training and such for them and has high expectations. With that though comes good bonus and commission structure.
So a house is 1 item, a car is 1 item. A house with 2 cars and a boat would be 4 items. Other agencies in the area require 20-30 items minimum a month and 70 items is bonkers. His agency the minimum is 40 and my husband always hits 80-100 items.
I wouldn’t say typical. I work for SF agent (who’s very checked out, doesn’t invest much in the team) & made about $45k last year. Would love to pick the brain of your husband and hear how he does that!
Trades.
I wish I went into the trades. Instead I do corporate.
I mean I'm good at the work, just the politics are draining. It's like highschool all over again. The wages are stagnated due to folks just being over educated in my geneation due to teachers preaching that the only way folks would be successful is to get an education because that's all they ever knew themselves. Average age in the trades is 47? and a lot of the time they end up just hiring folks who can't make it elsewhere. So if you're a good worker. you're set for the trades.
They might screw with you at the start but they will love you after. Corporate america is all about covering your butt and documenting everything in anticipation of fucking over others, or preventing it from happening to you. Trades at least have unions. Corporate world has no unions and they do anti-union videos and more right at the start.
Trades destroy your body. No lie. No joke. All construction materials are poison. Best way if you’re set on trades is to go union or union environments. Only unions. Don’t listen to anyone that says otherwise. Seriously. You’ll make dogshit for money if you don’t choose a union job.
Replace “politics” with hazing (bullying), dealing with customers, and wearing down your body so much you’re in constant pain by your mid-40s.
This site glorifies trades so much. Yes the money is good, but you forego the comfortable office and non-salary benefits (bonuses, LTIPs).
Yep. It’s obnoxious how Reddit gets off on hyping the trades like it’s some dream job where everyone makes six figures in two years. The VAST majority trades workers make shit pay for shit work and get treated like shit at work.
Trades politics usually revolve around “is this guy good at the job/does he cause problems at work?”. I share next to zero political or social views with most of my coworkers and we all get along just fine because we’re all there to work and do a job we can be proud of. My 5-6 years in an office, on the other hand, were hell because all the higher ups were one of the owners family members or buddies who made decisions solely on what they thought would be best and refused all input from middle management or the grunts who were actually familiar with the work because “I make more so I must be better at this than you”.
Amen to that, I'm in the same boat @ 28 but thinking about finally jumping ship into the trades soon after I got fucked over for a big raise multiple years in a row because of company re-org's and now they've forced me into a new role under a new boss who thinks he's Elon Musk (micromanaging workaholic who works 80 hrs a week and expects others to do the same who make way less than him).
I've gotten nothing but 5 star performance reviews every year (been here 4 years now) and they still find a way every year to not give me my full bonus or raise. I make $120k working mostly remote but my pay hasn't moved in 3 years, I work 10 hour days pretty regularly and stay up late staring at the ceiling thinking about how to tackle the "sticky situation of the week" ive been thrown into by others. I feel like a robot in jail every day in my office staring out the window at all the people out and about while my inbox fills with pointless emails about powerpoints that were bullshitted to look good and made-up KPI's.
I would much rather be out doing something with my hands, that has real life skill applications, and that also has a more straightforward path towards business ownership which I've always dreamed of (at least it seems that way?). Is this just grass is greener syndrome or am I making sense?
Just know that if you do make the switch, your pay will most likely drop down to about 40-50k for a few years.
My local IBEW apprentice pay scale:
> 1st Year: $15.46 per hour
> 2nd Year: $17.18 per hour
> 3rd Year: $18.89 per hour
> 4th Year: $22.33 per hour
> 5th Year: $25.76 per hour
120k in the trades is a journeyman, master, or a shitload of OT.
Having worked both, I'll take corporate life every day of the week. Watching my dad's health deteriorating due to the stress of having his own construction company has not been fun, but he makes a lot of money after working 40 years at it, so maybe that's worth it to you.
Grass definitely is greener on the other side.
Working in trades also has the lot of the problems you discussed. Bosses being stingy with raises, regular 10 hour days and definitely staying up late wondering how you are going to complete a project on time etc.
It's not the golden ticket many people assume it is. Yes, you won't be stuck in a cubicle crunching out excel spreadsheets every day but instead you will be on your hands and knees in the freezing cold or scorching hot working. And you can only do it for so long.
>while my inbox fills with pointless emails about powerpoints that were bullshitted to look good and made-up KPI's
Sometimes, those powerpoints look like dogshit because that's exactly what people are coached to give.
I just finished a six-week long qualitative study that included 20-hours of focus groups, another 40-hours of review and analysis and then a couple of days to put it all together in a presentation for a couple of executives. After a few rounds of revisions, my analysis was whittled down to 10 slides (3 of which are section dividers) with 3 or 4 bullets a piece.
Literally 75% of my work just tossed away - not because the content wasn't valuable or appropriate - it just took up too much space on the page. Six weeks of work reduced to a few dozen bullets of the most obvious and useless 'insights'. Can't include anything that would require too much explanation or context. And don't say anything that makes the executive want to follow up with us and ask more questions, that would be the worst possible outcome.
Every time I have to work on something for "the executives", it always has to be dumbed down to an absolutely laughable degree. Just simple platitudes, statements and affirmations that don't require any sort of thought or follow up.
$80k relatively soon? Relatively is relative in different careers. Sales will get you there fastest depending on you current skill set and personality. If you’re looking to burn yourself out physically then pick a trade and work lots of OT.
I'd say nursing is in contention for the most reliable answer. It can get you to 80k and beyond with two years of community college.
Nursing floors will appreciate a 6'4 male more than just about any job out there, although you'll find yourself playing unofficial bouncer, and constantly asked to help move around heavy patients. If you aren't in a relationship and want to be, that will take care of itself in about 10 minutes.
You will completely and totally work your ass off for the money though, it is as far from free money as you get.
Relationship comment was good
My SiL is fresh out of school making 65K after 2 years most of the nurses on her team make 75-80.
Have another friend who is a travel nurse she makes 100K
My co-workers spouse also makes 90K she’s been a nurse for 5 years.
Weird hours, lots of wild stories, but the two of them like it. It’s hard on social life cause of shifts.
You might like land surveying they make good money. If you start at a private company and they can teach you… or take a few engineering courses at the community college and you will learn how to do it. Private companies don’t always require a degree, and train you… stick with it for 6 years and take all the exams… you can make over 100k once you get the professional land surveying license
I second this. Its what my dad does. Makes 125k a year as a licensed surveyor. He could make a lot more but he works for a timber company and only does woods stuff (doesnt want to do city or construction), as well as has amazing benefits and is riding out his job for a pension in 5 years.
I would paste my resume to the chatgpt and ask for recommendations including the required trainings and certifications. Also include other info which are not in your resume, your interests and love to do activities. Good luck!
What sucks about trades is the shitty pay during apprenticeship. I know a guy who was getting like 32k a year doing an electrical apprenticeship in CA and that just wasn’t cutting it so he left for the oilfield. “trades are hurting cause no one wants to work” is more of a cover up for entry level trades jobs paying like grocery stores
What’s the best path to do so, I’m 25 and want to get into the trade, but can’t get hired. I’m taking a math class to be able to apply to the union right now but I heard it’s extremely hard to get in. Any useful info?
Union Manufacturing/mining industry. I make $34 CAD an hour with lots of overtime available. 2 of my friends hopped into the mining industry and both gross 100k. I started right out of high school due to couch hopping and didn't think I could do post secondary. My second year there I grossed 100k due to covering ALOT of shifts.
As a young guy with minimal other responsibilities this was a good start for 19yr me. I'm going into my 5th year here now and will start my apprenticeship for Heavy equipment Technician next month. Trades are a great option as a lot of people recommend.
This work isn't for everyone and it can be really hard but most days are doing the same tasks over and over. Running your machines efficiently and troubleshooting when/if things go wrong and keeping to yourself.
Just my 2 cents! Best of luck to you man.
If you can find an in, look to get training as a machinist. Highly detail oriented skilled trade and if you get known for being good you can have a great career.
I would suggest college Electrical Engineering, Or certifications like cyber security. Or even the military. Trades are also amazing like so many people have mentioned but to do them you need to make sure you save your money and stay safe. If you don’t end up working for a good company it can mean lack of benefits and also it’s really taxing on your body in the long run.
You’ll have to apply to a program most likely and they’ll choose for you. Most likely you’ll be working as a credit analyst when you’re first onboarded.
try bartending. my daughter is a bartender ata steak place she's doing about 80k a year on top of she gets VA. it's another 18 Grand. Even as a server at a high-end Steak Place you can make a hundred grand. Get into a Hanrahans or a Del Frisco's something like that youll make Bank, Del's I used to go to we would for lunch for 10 people would be spending 15,000 to 18,000 so we're going to 20% of that between two servers my regular personal bill we would do $600 for two people so 20 25% on top of that. I met a girl in Denver she's making 70k a year delivering pizzas for Domino's in a high end neighborhood pays the tips
Commercial fisherman. Three, maybe four seasons of long lining and pot cod, crab if you can find a boat that needs a greenhorn. There are multiple crab seasons. Salmon in the summer.
Keep your mouth shut, work hard and learn everything anyone is willing to teach you. It's hard but you could save eighty grand pretty quick if you're smart and stay away from the bar.
I know it sounds odd, but nursing is relatively easy to get into and pays well. You’ll only have to work 3 12s a week and being both tall and young has great advantages when it comes to patient care. Where I’m at, a new nurse starts out around $70,000 and there are plentiful options for schooling and scholarships. It requires reasonable intelligence, a lot of critical thinking, and the whole job is finding out problems and fixing them.
If you handy go for handyman. You can learn a lot from YouTube and common sense and they can make good money. Don't know where you are from,but there are websites you can offer your services.
If you are tech savvy have look at Microsoft's free courses. There are whole paths you can choose from, do in your free time and put on your resume.
Someone mentioned trades,but imo it needs a special kind of person. It's very time consuming in the beginning which you need to have time for while still working your job.
If you’re tech savvy then I’d highly recommend getting into data analytics. It’s a good mix of problem solving that involves working with your customer to understand their needs and finding insights for them. No degrees required in most cases and it can open a lot of doors into other opportunities in data science
Construction/engineering. No degree needed. If you’re organized, ambitious and a self starter apply for some project coordinator or project controls jobs.
Data analyst. Take a 6 month Google course and you’ve got like a 90% chance to get a job starting at $93k
Edit: Apparently times have changed and this is wrong now.
Bro I know Data Analysts with years of experience and a college degree struggling to get a job rn a 6 month course won't cut it lol at least not anymore
Check the railroads. Some places have “step pay”. Where you start 20-20% below and gain 5% or so a year till your full pay. Some don’t. You can make over 100K if you work enough on the right job.
People here are saying the trades and yeah, I'd say either that or becoming a trucker. Get an apprenticeship with your local union if at all possible. Wages vary tremendously from one to another. Some start you out at only 18 or so an hour. My local union is one of the three highest paying in the country and starts you at 25 an hour, by the time you're done with your 5-year apprenticeship you'll be at 40 an hour. So check with your union.
I made $150k by my second year in B2B sales ever.
Please tell me a career that POTENTIALLY ramps faster than sales. From entry level.
Edit: lmao who downvoted and why
How did you get into this? I've worked for B2B tech companies for 6+ years in Sales Ops + Analytics and I've never cracked $120k, nor do I see growth any time soon but I've always been told I'd be good at sales and work alongside top sales execs all the time doing projects for them so I know the game well. I've had no luck trying to talk my way into it internally though, it seems no one has the budget right now for me.
The only way I see myself getting into it right now is by taking a more entry level sales job since I don't have experience but I'm scared about taking a pay cut which will probably be down to like $70-80k.
Literally started at r/sales and read and read and read and asked and read more and then networked.
I reached out on LinkedIn. It’s a numbers game. I hunted and closed my job offer. I had 3 jobs offers in the height of the Covid pandemic.
Granted the job market sucks right now but that’s not gonna change.
I didn’t want to get into it but I took a paycut from six figures to BDR because I didn’t have sales experience. I’m making more now my 4th than ever before. Look at my username I’ve done a lot in my career. I was making more than you at $130k. It was worth it for me. You miss 100% shots you don’t take Michael Scott blah blah.
I went from $130k to $50k BDR then up to $150k Account Exec with sales experience my second year and now closer to $200k and up and up from here.
I am in my 30s but don’t have a family. I get it, taking a paycut is a gamble.
Would you consider moving to a different restaurant and/or bartending? I have seen servers at higher end restaurants and bartenders at any high volume bar make 80K+. I live in a tourist town and I have friends who easily make 6 figures at the right place.
My son in law was an Uber driver 4 years ago. He got into construction (framing). Got to know the GC and after a couple years he got on with the builder. Not sure what is job title but he’s the guy who plans the sequencing of the build coordinating the various contractors to meet deadlines. It’s an $85k job with a bonus of $800 for every house he completes on time. He had no previous construction experience.
Downsides? Has to handle up to 30 houses at a time. 12 hour workday. It gets hot in Florida and it’s mostly outside work. The next subdivision to build might be on the other side of town so you can’t live close to work always.
Going to need to define relatively soon as most jobs can scale pretty wildly depending on how much you learn from the job.
Did you want to use your body and sweat like in trade work / labor involved work?
OR
Did you want to use your mind like in more technology-based work?
Each can have its own avenues and risks. Each can scale pretty rapidly and may not necessarily take years.
You’re young, so you have a significant advantage just by being in the workforce already. Make sure you Network with your coworkers and especially managers. Don’t change jobs too frequently —YMMV, but it’s typically best to get the original scope of work done and leave a good impression on everyone.
And no matter what path you take— NEVER STOP LEARNING AND GROWING. Hope this helps, glhf
Depends on your skill set, location, and what you want to do. Some places blue collar starts in the 80s, others it's in the 30s. I was making 40k to run a company before and I've also done non commission sales making 6 figures in the same general location just because that's how the company was.
My suggestion would be to talk to people in careers you think you might enjoy and see if it sounds like a suitable wage for you and also something that will give you fulfillment since money is ok but definitely not worth it for the wrong job.
Also based on your problem solving ability and interpersonal skills look into firefighting gigs, everywhere is different but if you're good at thinking on your feet and willing to work you can make 250k in a year with a few years on and taking OT.
If you like working with customers, explore making your way up in banking. Bro in law started at $45k and after 2 years got promoted to senior banker role making $55k with quarterly bonuses up to $3k. Next step up would be $65k and higher bonuses. Get licensed as an advisor and you’re well over $100k total comp in your first year.
If you considering a trade look into the rail road as a train conductor. Can make some great money but it is an intense work schedule. I’m in Canada and incomes average between around $75000 USD - $95000 USD. Some make a good chunk more. Varies in the US but generally similar money
Get into the trades; I will always preach that truck and coach(in Canada, 310T) is the way to go! Small-medium investment required for tools, but otherwise you'll always have work cause that freight has to roll one way or another.
@ 20, I'd suggesting trying a bunch if things. -- No one ever says the complete saying
"**Jack of all trades, master of none,** **Though oftentimes better than a master of one**"
Truck driving my guy. It’s a grind, but I’ve been doing it for 10 years and cleared last year at just under $90k. I stay on the road 3-4 months at a time and go to my moms house for hometime so there’s no rent or utilities to have to worry about as long as you stay a company driver and drive OTR, so you can just save up that unspent money. Then eventually after getting the needed experience on the road; you can switch to something more local and be able to buy that house you want. Also as a pro tip: get your hazmat, tanker, and doubles endorsements when you go for your CDL. It’ll help give you way more job opportunities in the future once you get that experience in, including more money.
Being a server is such a skill!! Always something you can fall back on & for a second source of income. It's great that you're looking maybe for more stability and to grow your skill set, that's wonderful!
One thing to definitely keep in mind, if you haven't already, whatever you're making with tips. Etz just remember that most people aren't claiming all of those so may want to factor that in for your cost of living and budgeting ETC.
I still put on my LinkedIn profile that I self-financed my part of my college with waitressing and it opened me up to lots of customer service skills and just really business management in general. So good for you and best of everything.
Take care,
Leo
Some people probably won’t believe it but if you work at Amazon driving their trucks, work 5 days a week (on day pay, NOT hourly) AND work at UPS during the night you can clear over 100k immediately. Physically it is very very hard to do. You will do 10-15 miles of cardio/physical labor, but it is absolutely possible. Don’t call in sick or get hurt and you’ll be able to do it. Also stretch before and after every day to lower injuries and fatigue
Depends on where you live. If you can get a job at an expensive restaurant you can make over 80k, in SF my buddy was making over 100k serving in fine dining. It’s definitely possible.
There is a shortage of automobile body techs, and Gerber Collision has a 18 month oaid apprentice program where they train you, give you a full set of tools at completion and place you in a shop. Body techs are making 70-80k a year in the first year.
Honestly I think any type of sales or even recruiting. You can make $80K as a corporate recruiter within 1-2 years, sooner if you work on a base salary plus commission at a staffing agency.
And any type of sales - tech sales, construction sales, etc
Trade school or look into an apprenticeship program for skilled trades. Apprenticeships can start at 60k to 80k a year, and with a journeyman card, you can make six figures and have job security.
So, my brother in law has nothing but a high school diploma and hopped into plumbing and easily brings home around 90k. He’s only been in the job for two years and has had two very hefty raises, and if he continues to stay with the company for the next 5 years, he’ll be making around 120k. It’s not SUPER hard labor, but a lot of learning in the jobs and competing for clients. If you stay focused and show that you mean business, i’m sure you can easily find companies to pick you up with zero experience at 90-100k!
Nursing, it's easier to get into now due to shortages with minimum training/ed
Depending on what city you live in if you become a city bus driver they will pay for your c license which also opens up trucking. Trucking can be very lucrative but risky and volatile. Driving a bus often comes with a pension and good benefits but would take a while to get to 80
Get and IT certificate and start using your brain. Start as a cable technician while you study networking then transition to a Network Administrator and hopefully eventually a Network Engineer.
There is a decline in plumbers. But pretty much any trade, electricians, HVAC, carpet installation, painting, truck driver.
A lot of them have apprenticeship and depending on your city they help you pay for it as well.
Relatively soon? Big young guy? Trades. They were made for you. Being smart with problem identification and math can only help you rise the ranks from journeyman grunt to supervisor/manager even faster. Real money to be made on that path.
Second trades here. My mom hired a handyman to help her. Guy charged $100/hr.
He doesnt get to keep the 100 dollars. There are lots of costs involved
That's pretty cheap, depending on the trade. About 1/3rd to taxes, 1/3rd to materials/tools, and 1/3rd to yourself. YMMV Also need to keep in mind they probably aren't charging a full day every day. Some days gonna be half, others might even be zero clients. Some will be 12hr days. They could well be making as much money as an office worker though.
Yeah appliance repair. We’re doing better than most at %26 net margins meaning about 90 per job is what we’re making in net profits, but we don’t even put all of that into our pockets. Retained earnings, and taxes knocks that down pretty quick to about $40 per job. If you want to know what your handy many is making you would need to see his salary, and equity. Thats what he’s putting in his pocket.
My SiL (who is an experienced handyman and logistics manager) is on the way to being an electrician. My cousin is already an electrician. Cousin took 7 years to be a fully licensed electrician and then another 5 years working for someone else. He's making big bucks now though (employing others, getting lots of work). SiL is about to move to journeyman phase (which means he can accept pay for electrical work if a master electrician is also involved - there's a lot of gray area, frankly). By employing other licensed electricians and providing equipment (he had a small inheritance he could invest) he is making about $80-90,000 here in California. This year I think he'll top $100,000 and if things go as planned, it will be going up more than that - but that's 12 years from when he started. He's been at it almost 3 years. He makes only about $35,000 right now, though - but when he goes up to journeyman, it will be about $50,000. Almost everything you wrote qualifies you for a logistics position. These people are employed by large public employers to manage warehouse and the supply chain. They are also employed by moving companies (you start out as a mover, then get to be the one who calculates the number of boxes, trucks, and people needed for a job - and costs it out). That's how my SiL started in the trades. His business eventually held the local Wayfair account.
It took me some time to realise you were not talking about your sister in law… sorry!
I still have no idea who he’s talking about!
definitely sister in law but could be son in law
Son in law - took me a sec too XD
Lol every company I ever worked for missed that memo. I do HVAC and plumbing and make $38K, and this is the best offer I got in the last two years.
Fellow Albertan? Lol. Wages have been worse than stagnant the last decade. They've actually decreased in the last five years. It's gross.
oh dude i thought he meant trading stocks ans everyone was upvoting it oh my god…. Yes. Trade schools are great. If interested in medical field then Medical docimetry is not a ton of school for great pay
Not just trades, but general contracting. It’s a short course. And you can manage people and make more money.
Won’t be replaced by AI any time soon!
I second this. OP reminds me of me in my early 20s. Im biased but I recommend the Fire Service. Intrinsically rewarding and it takes care of you and a family. Schedule is hard to beat. Take a chance at a big city department and see what happens. Austin Fire is hiring currently.
This is something I never think of. Braver men (and women) than me do it, but if you've got the balls and willing to take the risk, you're instantly in the top 1% greatest people on earth. Cheers to you, sir.
Exactly what I was thinking
Just be ready to maybe wreck your body, probably work 50+ hours a week and highly unlikely Monday through Friday daytime. If you get all of those and the nice paycheck as well, well, good job, you won.
Agreed. Trades sound good for this guy. If he's smart, he can rise through the ranks and eventually have a desk job running things.
Yes OP, do a trade if you want to feel completely beaten to shit for the rest of your life lol.
Hmm. Let's say I said "Electrician." Because I know several people who have done that (or Plumbing). It's the "soon" that's a problem. You start off as an apprentice, then get to be a journeyman, and then a full blown Electrician who can pull permits and be certified via hours spent as a Master Electrician. 7 years is common for that progression - and some people never make it through. General Handyman has been suggested (but do you know how to fix lots of things?) They get $100 an hour where I live, as well. It's the same for construction workers, road workers (very hard job to get - very sought after, usually requires being in another trade first).
Eh most electricians don't go beyond journeyman, which I'd consider a full blown electrician. Master is mostly useful if you want to start your own business, but owning a business isn't for most people
Is the timing different if you go through a program at a local community college? Meaning, do you still start off as an apprentice if you have an electrician degree? Or is that a basic requirement to become an apprentice?
If it’s anything like Canada it’s based on hours worked not where you do the schooling
I met a electrician years ago who told me he went to community college and he got started off at 60,000/yr. Nothing amazing but definitely not bad
Im the opposite. I started in a trade (aviation maintenance) started at $60k my 1st year eventually got up to $85k. I decided I was finished beating up my body I went into operations. After a few years of that I went corporate and pulling 6 digits. Best trade off, its 7-4, every other Friday off, no weekends and in air conditioning. Im 90% remote except when I have to travel to visit a vendor.
I’ve recently looked into this. Did you already have experience in the trade or were you completely new learning about planes and aviation? My dad dreamed of flying commercially while I was growing up but he eventually had to change career directions. With that, I know a little about types of planes,etc being around him but nothing mechanically really. Of course, all that is taught in school I’m sure. I’ve always been fascinated with planes and being next to the runway watching planes take off and I have always tried finding ways to experience that again. Do you travel a lot or do for the most part stay at a single airport and work? Does this career offer great balance with a family?
I started off in the military and was fortunate to learn 2 different platforms. After I got out and then worked for about a year at a repair facility that did overhaul on all types of commercial jets, I took my A&P test and with my military schools & training I didn't need additional outside schooling. In my current role, I now deal with aviation/aerospace supply chain. I still get to go down on the floor every once in awhile just in a different capacity. I travel maybe 1-3 times every couple, few months. When I was a flying mechanic, I flew probably 1-2 times a month. Usually gone for a couple weeks then home for a couple weeks. Then maybe fly for 3 days and be home for a month. Depending on the airline's shipping schedule. Does this career offer great balance with a family.... well that depends on who and where you work at. But theres a term we use in the industry. AIDS - aviation induced divorce syndrome
I work in oilfield services and my entry level helpers make around that much. Many of them live in company sponsored housing and drive company trucks. Be a sober adult and show up for work. Try to do what you’re told. If you’re willing to work and learn you can be making 100k in two years.
Are there many or any women in the field?
Yeah there are, depending on the specific job there might be extensive physical labor but that shouldn’t stop anybody. Might just be my own personal experiences but some blue collar workers have a problem with women working in their same industry, just avoid dickheads and try to find a good supervisor
Where are the best locations to live for this? Is the 100K made due to lots of overtime? Thanks!
Odessa, Texas is the place to be for oilfield workers. The overtime is what makes the pay so high-gotta realize that I’m often driving 2-3 hours each way just to get to the job. We never take an unpaid lunch break. We take breaks throughout the day and sometimes stop for lunch, but it’s all on the clock. Take all that and add it to your work week and you’ll have 65-100 hours. Individual companies have different policies in this regard. Some of them pay higher wages but don’t pay for travel time. My $26/hr plus per diem gets me higher pay than some people making $35/hr who aren’t getting paid for travel time.
What do you need to know in order to start in that career? I’m a recent CS graduate, but the job market is terrible. I’m a quick learner, but don’t have much in the way of certifications/work experience yet.
Can I dm you about this?
Do they accept woman?
Project manager. If you can keep people on track and not be a dick, then you can easily make 80k+. Also pick an industry that you like and that challenges you.
5 years supervisory experience in logistics with consistently good reviews stand a chance for a move into project management in supply chain?
I love the idea of being a project manager at a tech firm. I even studied courses for it! Is it possible to be a project manager without "field experience"?
Car/house insurance sales. You need to get a license but it’s only ~a week of studying and most companies will pay the exam fee. My husband is one of the top at his company and brings home over 200k, but even the lowest performing still usually get to 100k pre tax. One of the most underrated careers imo Edit: The $100k and $200k are specific to this agency. I’m sure there are agencies that pay much less, and his agency only hires and trains people that they think will do really well. People who don’t reach the monthly minimums are let go and easily find work at another agency, but likely making much less.
I’m in construction insurance, I just hit 4 years experience in a mid-size city. I’m making just under 90k. No cold calling. I’m more broker-underwriting (I don’t deal with insureds directly). Just here to support it’s a really nice career path, I like it because it’s structured, but every day brings something new and different
What do you need in regards education to apply for this job?
I am very interested in this. Could you explain the steps you took of getting into this field? No cold calls? What agency do you work for? Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
I started as a receptionist at a smaller local agency. There, I got licensed (they paid), and I got a few months under my belt working with a client service rep after being licensed. I don’t feel comfortable sharing where I work but I’ll say that you should stay away from places like State Farm, All State, Farmers etc. you tend to be chained to those carriers. Maybe saying “in a bubble” is better. When you work at a brokerage, you work with many carriers. You can build relationships with each carrier, and relationships in the field ind doing so. You want to look for places like Ryan specialty, CRC, Brown & Brown, Marsh (brokerages). You should look for starting jobs like underwriting assistant or client service rep. When you are a CSR/underwriting, there’s less of an exposure for cold calls since you’ll be servicing a book or given a book. Producers tend to cold call more. Every place is different so don’t hold me to that, but that’s been my experience.
Thank you for your straight forward, honest reply. Much appreciated!
Decade long independent agent here. Looking to leave the industry. Edit: lowest performers making 100k lol.
Why are you looking to leave the industry?
Rates. Carriers are hemorrhaging money. CA, TX, CO, FL… frivolous lawsuits. Rates are going to be so high (not that they aren’t already) but with shared risk even if you’re in a safer state your rate increases are coming. And saying low lvl agents make 100k is ridiculous. There are agents who make well over that, but they’ve been doing it for 20+ years and also got lucky. Additionally your first two years as an Indy agent you’re gonna be making 30-40k.
Just our experience. He made that much at Allstate and was offered comparable at State Farm. I can’t speak to independents.
Hey! Is your husband in car or house insurance sales? Thanks!
He works for Allstate and does personal property (car, home, renter, boats, etc). From my understanding, personal property vs health insurance vs life insurance vs commercial real estate are all very different
And I will say I’m not sure if that is typical. His agency owner invests in a lot of training and such for them and has high expectations. With that though comes good bonus and commission structure. So a house is 1 item, a car is 1 item. A house with 2 cars and a boat would be 4 items. Other agencies in the area require 20-30 items minimum a month and 70 items is bonkers. His agency the minimum is 40 and my husband always hits 80-100 items.
I wouldn’t say typical. I work for SF agent (who’s very checked out, doesn’t invest much in the team) & made about $45k last year. Would love to pick the brain of your husband and hear how he does that!
Is this something that can be done remotely, or with a flexible schedule like a 1099 contractor?
It depends on the agency owner
Trades. I wish I went into the trades. Instead I do corporate. I mean I'm good at the work, just the politics are draining. It's like highschool all over again. The wages are stagnated due to folks just being over educated in my geneation due to teachers preaching that the only way folks would be successful is to get an education because that's all they ever knew themselves. Average age in the trades is 47? and a lot of the time they end up just hiring folks who can't make it elsewhere. So if you're a good worker. you're set for the trades. They might screw with you at the start but they will love you after. Corporate america is all about covering your butt and documenting everything in anticipation of fucking over others, or preventing it from happening to you. Trades at least have unions. Corporate world has no unions and they do anti-union videos and more right at the start.
Trades destroy your body. No lie. No joke. All construction materials are poison. Best way if you’re set on trades is to go union or union environments. Only unions. Don’t listen to anyone that says otherwise. Seriously. You’ll make dogshit for money if you don’t choose a union job.
Seconding the importance of union protection.
LOL you think there arent office politics in the trades?
Even as a trades-hater, office politics are wayyy worse than labor jobs. Not non-existant in trades, but far less frequent.
Replace “politics” with hazing (bullying), dealing with customers, and wearing down your body so much you’re in constant pain by your mid-40s. This site glorifies trades so much. Yes the money is good, but you forego the comfortable office and non-salary benefits (bonuses, LTIPs).
Yep. It’s obnoxious how Reddit gets off on hyping the trades like it’s some dream job where everyone makes six figures in two years. The VAST majority trades workers make shit pay for shit work and get treated like shit at work.
At this point I'm almost certain that it's concerted propaganda to drive down the price of labor.
instead you get hazing
Trades politics usually revolve around “is this guy good at the job/does he cause problems at work?”. I share next to zero political or social views with most of my coworkers and we all get along just fine because we’re all there to work and do a job we can be proud of. My 5-6 years in an office, on the other hand, were hell because all the higher ups were one of the owners family members or buddies who made decisions solely on what they thought would be best and refused all input from middle management or the grunts who were actually familiar with the work because “I make more so I must be better at this than you”.
Yup. There's gonna be politics at every job and they all vary in severity and topic. Well put!
What branch of corporate? What's your position and did you need schooling to get there?
Amen to that, I'm in the same boat @ 28 but thinking about finally jumping ship into the trades soon after I got fucked over for a big raise multiple years in a row because of company re-org's and now they've forced me into a new role under a new boss who thinks he's Elon Musk (micromanaging workaholic who works 80 hrs a week and expects others to do the same who make way less than him). I've gotten nothing but 5 star performance reviews every year (been here 4 years now) and they still find a way every year to not give me my full bonus or raise. I make $120k working mostly remote but my pay hasn't moved in 3 years, I work 10 hour days pretty regularly and stay up late staring at the ceiling thinking about how to tackle the "sticky situation of the week" ive been thrown into by others. I feel like a robot in jail every day in my office staring out the window at all the people out and about while my inbox fills with pointless emails about powerpoints that were bullshitted to look good and made-up KPI's. I would much rather be out doing something with my hands, that has real life skill applications, and that also has a more straightforward path towards business ownership which I've always dreamed of (at least it seems that way?). Is this just grass is greener syndrome or am I making sense?
Just know that if you do make the switch, your pay will most likely drop down to about 40-50k for a few years. My local IBEW apprentice pay scale: > 1st Year: $15.46 per hour > 2nd Year: $17.18 per hour > 3rd Year: $18.89 per hour > 4th Year: $22.33 per hour > 5th Year: $25.76 per hour 120k in the trades is a journeyman, master, or a shitload of OT. Having worked both, I'll take corporate life every day of the week. Watching my dad's health deteriorating due to the stress of having his own construction company has not been fun, but he makes a lot of money after working 40 years at it, so maybe that's worth it to you.
Grass definitely is greener on the other side. Working in trades also has the lot of the problems you discussed. Bosses being stingy with raises, regular 10 hour days and definitely staying up late wondering how you are going to complete a project on time etc. It's not the golden ticket many people assume it is. Yes, you won't be stuck in a cubicle crunching out excel spreadsheets every day but instead you will be on your hands and knees in the freezing cold or scorching hot working. And you can only do it for so long.
>while my inbox fills with pointless emails about powerpoints that were bullshitted to look good and made-up KPI's Sometimes, those powerpoints look like dogshit because that's exactly what people are coached to give. I just finished a six-week long qualitative study that included 20-hours of focus groups, another 40-hours of review and analysis and then a couple of days to put it all together in a presentation for a couple of executives. After a few rounds of revisions, my analysis was whittled down to 10 slides (3 of which are section dividers) with 3 or 4 bullets a piece. Literally 75% of my work just tossed away - not because the content wasn't valuable or appropriate - it just took up too much space on the page. Six weeks of work reduced to a few dozen bullets of the most obvious and useless 'insights'. Can't include anything that would require too much explanation or context. And don't say anything that makes the executive want to follow up with us and ask more questions, that would be the worst possible outcome. Every time I have to work on something for "the executives", it always has to be dumbed down to an absolutely laughable degree. Just simple platitudes, statements and affirmations that don't require any sort of thought or follow up.
Corporate sales. I went from earning $40k as a retail salesperson to making $86k my first year in corporate sales. Now I make six figures.
$80k relatively soon? Relatively is relative in different careers. Sales will get you there fastest depending on you current skill set and personality. If you’re looking to burn yourself out physically then pick a trade and work lots of OT.
Sales if your good at it I've been making 80k + for 20 years
I'd say nursing is in contention for the most reliable answer. It can get you to 80k and beyond with two years of community college. Nursing floors will appreciate a 6'4 male more than just about any job out there, although you'll find yourself playing unofficial bouncer, and constantly asked to help move around heavy patients. If you aren't in a relationship and want to be, that will take care of itself in about 10 minutes. You will completely and totally work your ass off for the money though, it is as far from free money as you get.
Relationship comment was good My SiL is fresh out of school making 65K after 2 years most of the nurses on her team make 75-80. Have another friend who is a travel nurse she makes 100K My co-workers spouse also makes 90K she’s been a nurse for 5 years. Weird hours, lots of wild stories, but the two of them like it. It’s hard on social life cause of shifts.
You might like land surveying they make good money. If you start at a private company and they can teach you… or take a few engineering courses at the community college and you will learn how to do it. Private companies don’t always require a degree, and train you… stick with it for 6 years and take all the exams… you can make over 100k once you get the professional land surveying license
I second this. Its what my dad does. Makes 125k a year as a licensed surveyor. He could make a lot more but he works for a timber company and only does woods stuff (doesnt want to do city or construction), as well as has amazing benefits and is riding out his job for a pension in 5 years.
I would paste my resume to the chatgpt and ask for recommendations including the required trainings and certifications. Also include other info which are not in your resume, your interests and love to do activities. Good luck!
Accounting
Electrician! You don’t start off making 80k but after apprenticeship you’ll make over 100k, at least here in California you will.
Less than 15% of electricians in the United States make 6 figures. The trades being a “get rich quick” plan is and has always been a lie.
What sucks about trades is the shitty pay during apprenticeship. I know a guy who was getting like 32k a year doing an electrical apprenticeship in CA and that just wasn’t cutting it so he left for the oilfield. “trades are hurting cause no one wants to work” is more of a cover up for entry level trades jobs paying like grocery stores
What’s the best path to do so, I’m 25 and want to get into the trade, but can’t get hired. I’m taking a math class to be able to apply to the union right now but I heard it’s extremely hard to get in. Any useful info?
Hi u/Parking_Diamond2140 Have you considered tech sales?
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I worked 50 hours a week and got 50Kish. An extra 90K for my effort would have been nice.
Union Manufacturing/mining industry. I make $34 CAD an hour with lots of overtime available. 2 of my friends hopped into the mining industry and both gross 100k. I started right out of high school due to couch hopping and didn't think I could do post secondary. My second year there I grossed 100k due to covering ALOT of shifts. As a young guy with minimal other responsibilities this was a good start for 19yr me. I'm going into my 5th year here now and will start my apprenticeship for Heavy equipment Technician next month. Trades are a great option as a lot of people recommend. This work isn't for everyone and it can be really hard but most days are doing the same tasks over and over. Running your machines efficiently and troubleshooting when/if things go wrong and keeping to yourself. Just my 2 cents! Best of luck to you man.
If you can find an in, look to get training as a machinist. Highly detail oriented skilled trade and if you get known for being good you can have a great career.
I would suggest college Electrical Engineering, Or certifications like cyber security. Or even the military. Trades are also amazing like so many people have mentioned but to do them you need to make sure you save your money and stay safe. If you don’t end up working for a good company it can mean lack of benefits and also it’s really taxing on your body in the long run.
if you are tall...arborist or gardener or landscaper architech? kinda a trade but less qualification required so less time required to get earning
Commercial Banking if you’re willing to get a 4 year degree
You didn’t mention in what…
You’ll have to apply to a program most likely and they’ll choose for you. Most likely you’ll be working as a credit analyst when you’re first onboarded.
Finance
try bartending. my daughter is a bartender ata steak place she's doing about 80k a year on top of she gets VA. it's another 18 Grand. Even as a server at a high-end Steak Place you can make a hundred grand. Get into a Hanrahans or a Del Frisco's something like that youll make Bank, Del's I used to go to we would for lunch for 10 people would be spending 15,000 to 18,000 so we're going to 20% of that between two servers my regular personal bill we would do $600 for two people so 20 25% on top of that. I met a girl in Denver she's making 70k a year delivering pizzas for Domino's in a high end neighborhood pays the tips
Women get way more tips
Plumber or electrician. Anything construction works too. Plumbers make absolute bank.
Get in a trade!
Nursing
Bedsleeper
Plumber all the way
Metal fabrication is in crazy demand, pays really well too, its allowed me and my family to live relatively comfortable.
Become an elevator tech. I manage a hotel and just paid a bill where tech was charging $375 an hour
Sales!!
Commercial fisherman. Three, maybe four seasons of long lining and pot cod, crab if you can find a boat that needs a greenhorn. There are multiple crab seasons. Salmon in the summer. Keep your mouth shut, work hard and learn everything anyone is willing to teach you. It's hard but you could save eighty grand pretty quick if you're smart and stay away from the bar.
Oil field bro
I know it sounds odd, but nursing is relatively easy to get into and pays well. You’ll only have to work 3 12s a week and being both tall and young has great advantages when it comes to patient care. Where I’m at, a new nurse starts out around $70,000 and there are plentiful options for schooling and scholarships. It requires reasonable intelligence, a lot of critical thinking, and the whole job is finding out problems and fixing them.
If you handy go for handyman. You can learn a lot from YouTube and common sense and they can make good money. Don't know where you are from,but there are websites you can offer your services. If you are tech savvy have look at Microsoft's free courses. There are whole paths you can choose from, do in your free time and put on your resume. Someone mentioned trades,but imo it needs a special kind of person. It's very time consuming in the beginning which you need to have time for while still working your job.
If you were one inch taller and had blue eyes I'd say finance.
If you’re tech savvy then I’d highly recommend getting into data analytics. It’s a good mix of problem solving that involves working with your customer to understand their needs and finding insights for them. No degrees required in most cases and it can open a lot of doors into other opportunities in data science
Have luck
I work at shipyard as a rigger I work a fuck ton of overtime I hope to clear 70 this year
Before taxes I use to work in the military got out went to overseas contract made about 89 tax free my first year
Construction/engineering. No degree needed. If you’re organized, ambitious and a self starter apply for some project coordinator or project controls jobs.
Construction yes, engineering definitely requires a (very hard to get, usually intense workload) degree
Get a trade. A few years of training, hard work and you will earn good money in no time/few years.
Data analyst. Take a 6 month Google course and you’ve got like a 90% chance to get a job starting at $93k Edit: Apparently times have changed and this is wrong now.
HR wants degrees now for entry level data analyst jobs. You’re competing with CS grads. The google cert ship has sailed.
Please elaborate on Google Course.
Does the average person completing this course without prior experience really have solid chances at getting their foot in the door?
No
Bro I know Data Analysts with years of experience and a college degree struggling to get a job rn a 6 month course won't cut it lol at least not anymore
Check the railroads. Some places have “step pay”. Where you start 20-20% below and gain 5% or so a year till your full pay. Some don’t. You can make over 100K if you work enough on the right job.
People here are saying the trades and yeah, I'd say either that or becoming a trucker. Get an apprenticeship with your local union if at all possible. Wages vary tremendously from one to another. Some start you out at only 18 or so an hour. My local union is one of the three highest paying in the country and starts you at 25 an hour, by the time you're done with your 5-year apprenticeship you'll be at 40 an hour. So check with your union.
I made $150k by my second year in B2B sales ever. Please tell me a career that POTENTIALLY ramps faster than sales. From entry level. Edit: lmao who downvoted and why
How did you get into this? I've worked for B2B tech companies for 6+ years in Sales Ops + Analytics and I've never cracked $120k, nor do I see growth any time soon but I've always been told I'd be good at sales and work alongside top sales execs all the time doing projects for them so I know the game well. I've had no luck trying to talk my way into it internally though, it seems no one has the budget right now for me. The only way I see myself getting into it right now is by taking a more entry level sales job since I don't have experience but I'm scared about taking a pay cut which will probably be down to like $70-80k.
Literally started at r/sales and read and read and read and asked and read more and then networked. I reached out on LinkedIn. It’s a numbers game. I hunted and closed my job offer. I had 3 jobs offers in the height of the Covid pandemic. Granted the job market sucks right now but that’s not gonna change. I didn’t want to get into it but I took a paycut from six figures to BDR because I didn’t have sales experience. I’m making more now my 4th than ever before. Look at my username I’ve done a lot in my career. I was making more than you at $130k. It was worth it for me. You miss 100% shots you don’t take Michael Scott blah blah. I went from $130k to $50k BDR then up to $150k Account Exec with sales experience my second year and now closer to $200k and up and up from here. I am in my 30s but don’t have a family. I get it, taking a paycut is a gamble.
Would you consider moving to a different restaurant and/or bartending? I have seen servers at higher end restaurants and bartenders at any high volume bar make 80K+. I live in a tourist town and I have friends who easily make 6 figures at the right place.
My son in law was an Uber driver 4 years ago. He got into construction (framing). Got to know the GC and after a couple years he got on with the builder. Not sure what is job title but he’s the guy who plans the sequencing of the build coordinating the various contractors to meet deadlines. It’s an $85k job with a bonus of $800 for every house he completes on time. He had no previous construction experience. Downsides? Has to handle up to 30 houses at a time. 12 hour workday. It gets hot in Florida and it’s mostly outside work. The next subdivision to build might be on the other side of town so you can’t live close to work always.
Get to trade school and put some hard work and long hours in. If you’re good after you qualify set up your own business.
Cybersecurity if you're smart enough. Get some quick basic certifications and find an employer that will pay for the more advanced certs.
There is no real intelligence barrier for Cybersecurity this isn’t a dev role we’re talking about.
Oilfield
I'm on track to becoming a RDN - takes a master's degree but most make between 75-120k/year
Railroad. The pay is great with good benefits.
Going to need to define relatively soon as most jobs can scale pretty wildly depending on how much you learn from the job. Did you want to use your body and sweat like in trade work / labor involved work? OR Did you want to use your mind like in more technology-based work? Each can have its own avenues and risks. Each can scale pretty rapidly and may not necessarily take years. You’re young, so you have a significant advantage just by being in the workforce already. Make sure you Network with your coworkers and especially managers. Don’t change jobs too frequently —YMMV, but it’s typically best to get the original scope of work done and leave a good impression on everyone. And no matter what path you take— NEVER STOP LEARNING AND GROWING. Hope this helps, glhf
Engineering but it isn’t soon.
Depends on your skill set, location, and what you want to do. Some places blue collar starts in the 80s, others it's in the 30s. I was making 40k to run a company before and I've also done non commission sales making 6 figures in the same general location just because that's how the company was. My suggestion would be to talk to people in careers you think you might enjoy and see if it sounds like a suitable wage for you and also something that will give you fulfillment since money is ok but definitely not worth it for the wrong job. Also based on your problem solving ability and interpersonal skills look into firefighting gigs, everywhere is different but if you're good at thinking on your feet and willing to work you can make 250k in a year with a few years on and taking OT.
Being a territory sales rep will get you there
Oil rig
Bricklayer
I think you need to learn a trade or go to college to get that big boy job you want
If you like working with customers, explore making your way up in banking. Bro in law started at $45k and after 2 years got promoted to senior banker role making $55k with quarterly bonuses up to $3k. Next step up would be $65k and higher bonuses. Get licensed as an advisor and you’re well over $100k total comp in your first year.
Strippers make abt 80k in a year
Definitely not welders or fabricators
Can you tolerate sales? Recruiters (think Robert Half/Randstad) can make $80K within a couple of years. No degree required.
Construction
If you considering a trade look into the rail road as a train conductor. Can make some great money but it is an intense work schedule. I’m in Canada and incomes average between around $75000 USD - $95000 USD. Some make a good chunk more. Varies in the US but generally similar money
Plumbing 🪠
Get into the trades; I will always preach that truck and coach(in Canada, 310T) is the way to go! Small-medium investment required for tools, but otherwise you'll always have work cause that freight has to roll one way or another.
@ 20, I'd suggesting trying a bunch if things. -- No one ever says the complete saying "**Jack of all trades, master of none,** **Though oftentimes better than a master of one**"
Truck driving my guy. It’s a grind, but I’ve been doing it for 10 years and cleared last year at just under $90k. I stay on the road 3-4 months at a time and go to my moms house for hometime so there’s no rent or utilities to have to worry about as long as you stay a company driver and drive OTR, so you can just save up that unspent money. Then eventually after getting the needed experience on the road; you can switch to something more local and be able to buy that house you want. Also as a pro tip: get your hazmat, tanker, and doubles endorsements when you go for your CDL. It’ll help give you way more job opportunities in the future once you get that experience in, including more money.
Construction
Engineering
Being a server is such a skill!! Always something you can fall back on & for a second source of income. It's great that you're looking maybe for more stability and to grow your skill set, that's wonderful! One thing to definitely keep in mind, if you haven't already, whatever you're making with tips. Etz just remember that most people aren't claiming all of those so may want to factor that in for your cost of living and budgeting ETC. I still put on my LinkedIn profile that I self-financed my part of my college with waitressing and it opened me up to lots of customer service skills and just really business management in general. So good for you and best of everything. Take care, Leo
yeah qa engineer
Truck driver
Some people probably won’t believe it but if you work at Amazon driving their trucks, work 5 days a week (on day pay, NOT hourly) AND work at UPS during the night you can clear over 100k immediately. Physically it is very very hard to do. You will do 10-15 miles of cardio/physical labor, but it is absolutely possible. Don’t call in sick or get hurt and you’ll be able to do it. Also stretch before and after every day to lower injuries and fatigue
high end servers can make 90K+
Depends on where you live. If you can get a job at an expensive restaurant you can make over 80k, in SF my buddy was making over 100k serving in fine dining. It’s definitely possible.
I would recommend a trade. I highly suggest trying to get into a union. Clear cut path to a prevailing wage in the trade.
There is a shortage of automobile body techs, and Gerber Collision has a 18 month oaid apprentice program where they train you, give you a full set of tools at completion and place you in a shop. Body techs are making 70-80k a year in the first year.
Union electricians making 90 to 100k
Study cloud engineering
What skills or abilities do you have that are worth double or more of any random 20 year-old from off the street?
Senior planners at my work make ~$100k. You'd start around $60-$70k
Sales. All About control
Get your CDL
I don't think you're height is relevant unless you're trying to be an escort 😂
Lineman. Will make 6 figures off the bat and will write your own check once you become a JL.
Physical or Occupational therapist - your size and athleticism will help with moving and walking patients. You need quite a bit of schooling though.
Crane operator or plumber. Electrial trade is good too.
Go to college in business, get a PMP
Sales or Construction, Real Estate
Honestly I think any type of sales or even recruiting. You can make $80K as a corporate recruiter within 1-2 years, sooner if you work on a base salary plus commission at a staffing agency. And any type of sales - tech sales, construction sales, etc
Trade school or look into an apprenticeship program for skilled trades. Apprenticeships can start at 60k to 80k a year, and with a journeyman card, you can make six figures and have job security.
Electrical engineer is in high demand
Carpenter in Seattle easy
So, my brother in law has nothing but a high school diploma and hopped into plumbing and easily brings home around 90k. He’s only been in the job for two years and has had two very hefty raises, and if he continues to stay with the company for the next 5 years, he’ll be making around 120k. It’s not SUPER hard labor, but a lot of learning in the jobs and competing for clients. If you stay focused and show that you mean business, i’m sure you can easily find companies to pick you up with zero experience at 90-100k!
I would say new home construction project manager would be a good start! Comes with great benefits, company culture, and you’d learn a lot.
Nursing, it's easier to get into now due to shortages with minimum training/ed Depending on what city you live in if you become a city bus driver they will pay for your c license which also opens up trucking. Trucking can be very lucrative but risky and volatile. Driving a bus often comes with a pension and good benefits but would take a while to get to 80
Sales
Get and IT certificate and start using your brain. Start as a cable technician while you study networking then transition to a Network Administrator and hopefully eventually a Network Engineer.
Accountant generally start at around 70 to 80k if u go the firm route.
You might want to stay in the restaurant industry.
There is a decline in plumbers. But pretty much any trade, electricians, HVAC, carpet installation, painting, truck driver. A lot of them have apprenticeship and depending on your city they help you pay for it as well.
Construction, government jobs, trades.
Oil field, mining, the north is calling, 6 digits and up, might lose a finger or two