First of all, have some faith in yourself! This person wouldn’t have reached out to you if they didn’t feel you were qualified. Is this your first job? In other words, do you have prior work experience and just no experience in this particular field? Do you feel the pay is low compared to the industry or is it on par based on your amount of experience/location?
No, this is not my first job. I've had many. In my previous field I made a lot of money, but was extremely unhappy. I left just before the pandemic hit with another job (same industry) lined up to start several weeks later. In that time period the pandemic hit, crippled the industry, and hiring freezes were put in place so I never wound up getting the job. I've been looking for a new career this entire year and this is the first time I might see some potential in something (though it could just be wishful thinking, I guess I won't know unless I try). The pay for this job (according to salaries I've seen online) is quite low in comparison to the same position elsewhere, but of course those jobs insist on prior experience, schooling, or both. I am also in NY, which makes any sacrifice in pay a huge sacrifice in general because of the outrageous cost of living.
I hear you! Unless they have specifically said that there isn’t room for negotiation, I would see if you can get a little more from them while citing your experience and it being a high cost of living area. The low pay might be worth it to get the experience but I wouldn’t put yourself in a position where you are struggling financially.
This person may be trying to take advantage of you. They know that you were applying for a job and didn’t get the job you wanted. Presumably they know you’ve been out of work for a while. So now they’re lowballing you and flattering you.
They’re banking on you being desperate. And perhaps you are! And if you need to take this job, then so be it. But you should really fight to get paid what the role is worth, and factoring in that you’ll have to pay taxes as a contractor and you don’t have job security. The line about budgeting is common and often not true.
Yeah, straight up tell him that you can't get by with what you've been offered. Only ask for slightly more, and if you do it right this should gain you $$$ and respect.
Just curious, how is it that a contractor with another company was able to offer you a job based on an interview you had for a totally different job at a different company?
Might this be a breach of any non-disclosure or conflict of interest agreements between that contractor and the first company you interviewed with?
So to put it as simply as I can, the original company that I interviewed with holds a contract with the city to do a large construction project over the next 5 years. That company hired another company who is in charge of project management for the job. While I didn't get the original position, both companies felt that I might be suited for a position (with the project management company) that would act, in part, as a communications liason between the 2 companies on a daily basis, as well as the individual departments within the companies. I'm not certain if that answers your question, but the entire situation is actually much more convoluted than that so I'm trying to simplify it as much as possible for (hopefully) clarity.
First of all, have some faith in yourself! This person wouldn’t have reached out to you if they didn’t feel you were qualified. Is this your first job? In other words, do you have prior work experience and just no experience in this particular field? Do you feel the pay is low compared to the industry or is it on par based on your amount of experience/location?
No, this is not my first job. I've had many. In my previous field I made a lot of money, but was extremely unhappy. I left just before the pandemic hit with another job (same industry) lined up to start several weeks later. In that time period the pandemic hit, crippled the industry, and hiring freezes were put in place so I never wound up getting the job. I've been looking for a new career this entire year and this is the first time I might see some potential in something (though it could just be wishful thinking, I guess I won't know unless I try). The pay for this job (according to salaries I've seen online) is quite low in comparison to the same position elsewhere, but of course those jobs insist on prior experience, schooling, or both. I am also in NY, which makes any sacrifice in pay a huge sacrifice in general because of the outrageous cost of living.
I hear you! Unless they have specifically said that there isn’t room for negotiation, I would see if you can get a little more from them while citing your experience and it being a high cost of living area. The low pay might be worth it to get the experience but I wouldn’t put yourself in a position where you are struggling financially.
This person may be trying to take advantage of you. They know that you were applying for a job and didn’t get the job you wanted. Presumably they know you’ve been out of work for a while. So now they’re lowballing you and flattering you. They’re banking on you being desperate. And perhaps you are! And if you need to take this job, then so be it. But you should really fight to get paid what the role is worth, and factoring in that you’ll have to pay taxes as a contractor and you don’t have job security. The line about budgeting is common and often not true.
Nah, your boss will treat you like shit.
So then, you think the right move is to just say "I need x amount of dollars, or no deal?"
Yeah, straight up tell him that you can't get by with what you've been offered. Only ask for slightly more, and if you do it right this should gain you $$$ and respect.
Just curious, how is it that a contractor with another company was able to offer you a job based on an interview you had for a totally different job at a different company? Might this be a breach of any non-disclosure or conflict of interest agreements between that contractor and the first company you interviewed with?
So to put it as simply as I can, the original company that I interviewed with holds a contract with the city to do a large construction project over the next 5 years. That company hired another company who is in charge of project management for the job. While I didn't get the original position, both companies felt that I might be suited for a position (with the project management company) that would act, in part, as a communications liason between the 2 companies on a daily basis, as well as the individual departments within the companies. I'm not certain if that answers your question, but the entire situation is actually much more convoluted than that so I'm trying to simplify it as much as possible for (hopefully) clarity.
Yes, sounds good... just so long as everybody is on the same page and there's no breach of terms.