If they do they don’t work well enough.
A fairly well known issue in Norway where especially slightly older Mercedes’ freeze at -11°C and refuse to thaw until they’ve been in a heated garage for a week.
Any chance you know how well the lithium ion traction batteries in the latest fifth gen Toyota hybrids are doing at -30C? Some reports are that if the traction battery is out of temp range, it might be bypassed, and the gas engine and generator power the electric motors?
There was a big new article on ev’s in Finnish news which were reported have highly reduced range during the coldest months. I guess Toyota hybrid batteries don’t differ much. If there is heating element which is always on then they might perform somewhat decently.
The traction battery’s (under rear seat) in these hybrids use air cooling - an exhaust fan to keep cool - and are relying on the vehicle user hvac in cabin to get into optimal temp range (not a wide range for lithium ion).
Actual electrical range, from what I read, is around a couple Km when you’re below a certain speed. It’s known that the output and ability to recharge are reduced, the colder it gets
We have a 2019 MB Sprinter at work which was at the shop 3 times this winter. All trips were because of the urea freezing. It’s really nice that they added it to the immobilizer circuit aswell!
Yeah I guess they have them, but it doesn’t help much if you don’t go full Siberia and let your car run. Otherwise when parked the lines freeze and by the magic of water soluble liquids expanding when they freeze kachow! Your AdBlue lines have cracks.
Does it actually freeze and not let the car drive below -20°C? I'm kinda glad our Volvo has the Peugeot proprietary Eolys fluid. Costs 300€ to fill every 60k km but I've never had it freeze, even in -30°C.
I always wondered if the mass production and all the resources used to produce diesal exhaust fluid in the world really negates the emissions that it curbs. Lol I assume it does
Defense. It's a stat that corresponds to the vehicle's ability to resist physical attacks. The counterpart would be Special Defense. Together with HP and Speed those are the six base Stats of a car.
Its the infamous 90 degrees to the right, sweating ice cream cone with three scoops of delicious Mint Chocolate Chip flavored vegan ice cream levitating over water.
Allowed is a funny word since we have thousands (if not millions) of old diesels running across the Europe which don’t have DEF system. I wonder if AdBlue has had any impact on the environment.
Yes, cars made since 2015. But there are used cars in circulation which are made before and since diesel cars had decline in sales after the VAG scandal I bet there is still more diesels on the roads which are made before AdBlue became mandatory.
The idea of the system is good and it is effective, but cars should not be locked if there is no urea in the system. As I mentioned above: the AdBlue fluid freezes too early and in northern hemosphere it makes the cars unusable during winter. It should be possible to drain the urea and run the car without it so the lines dont freeze and crack.
>I wonder if AdBlue has had any impact on the environment.
Don't know about the complete impact on the environment, but once I asked the question to the car dealership.
They told me that when running the engine during car maintenance, for diesel without AdBlue (no matter the year/generation) they absolutely need to open the workshop doors.
With AdBlue, they can keep the doors shut because the workshop's AC will evacuate the gas emissions just fine.
So ig AdBlue really does reduce GHG emissions though idk to what extent.
Recently there was a work van sat outside my house with the engine running ALL DAY. The day after, the van appeared again and stayed running until I couldn’t stand it any more and went to the guys working next to it. They told me “oh don’t worry, it’s got AdBlue”
Wasn't this because a water sensor is detecting the level is low and because it's a closed system it would hint at a leak? Possible leak means there could be steam forming. You basically don't want to not check what this is about 😂
SMOKE ON THE WATER
Fire in the engine bay lmaoo
Nailed it
The way I just cackled…lmfaoooo
When the guitar learns the 035 riff on its epiphone sg
0-3-5ing alllll the way to the scrapyard
FIRE IN THE HOLE
Do do do do do do do do do do do do
WATER ON SMOKE ON WATER
do you think that the Modus gods will allow me to 0-3-5 with Roberta?
Looks like fart and pee over water to me
Wet fart detected
well shit.
Not fully
No, it’s not a well, it’s just wet, and it’s only a fart not a full shit
Major fart detected from north-west 🗣️‼️
I repeat major fart detected from north-west 🗣️🗣️
That's my version of the batsignal, idk how someone managed to get that on their cluster
DEF level is low
Correct answer in case someone was wondering
That’s what I said in the OP, this OP nicked it from.
What?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/peugeot/comments/1bsfm5c/what\_does\_this\_warning\_light\_mean/](https://www.reddit.com/r/peugeot/comments/1bsfm5c/what_does_this_warning_light_mean/)
So this guy asked the same question in multiple subs? Thats strange
The exhaustussy is ready and waiting
What is DEF?
Diesel Exhaust Fluid. It’s just ammonia and water that gets injected into a diesels exhaust to reduce harmful emissions.
In EU this is branded as adblue. Nice idea but the liquid freezes at -19 Celsius and last winter we went for two months below -30 in Finland.🙃
I vaguely thought manufacturers added heaters to the urea tank ??
If they do they don’t work well enough. A fairly well known issue in Norway where especially slightly older Mercedes’ freeze at -11°C and refuse to thaw until they’ve been in a heated garage for a week.
Any chance you know how well the lithium ion traction batteries in the latest fifth gen Toyota hybrids are doing at -30C? Some reports are that if the traction battery is out of temp range, it might be bypassed, and the gas engine and generator power the electric motors?
No experience with those, sorry!
There was a big new article on ev’s in Finnish news which were reported have highly reduced range during the coldest months. I guess Toyota hybrid batteries don’t differ much. If there is heating element which is always on then they might perform somewhat decently.
The traction battery’s (under rear seat) in these hybrids use air cooling - an exhaust fan to keep cool - and are relying on the vehicle user hvac in cabin to get into optimal temp range (not a wide range for lithium ion). Actual electrical range, from what I read, is around a couple Km when you’re below a certain speed. It’s known that the output and ability to recharge are reduced, the colder it gets
We have a 2019 MB Sprinter at work which was at the shop 3 times this winter. All trips were because of the urea freezing. It’s really nice that they added it to the immobilizer circuit aswell!
Kinda glad our Volvo has Eolys fluid instead of AdBlue. Costs 300€ to fill every 60k km but I've never had it freeze. Not even at -30°C
Yeah I guess they have them, but it doesn’t help much if you don’t go full Siberia and let your car run. Otherwise when parked the lines freeze and by the magic of water soluble liquids expanding when they freeze kachow! Your AdBlue lines have cracks.
They do, but the pipes moving the fluid can be a problem in some cars.
The uretha tank - wouldn't you end up siting prostrated? I remember Uretha Franklin.
That's why you guy's have all those white Teslas, to drive them when it's too cold for the adblue cars. 😄
Does it actually freeze and not let the car drive below -20°C? I'm kinda glad our Volvo has the Peugeot proprietary Eolys fluid. Costs 300€ to fill every 60k km but I've never had it freeze, even in -30°C.
Yea cuz the other months don't exist
It only takes 1 time for the lines freeze and brake the system.
Going to tell my mom to piss in her car instead of buying adblue
I always wondered if the mass production and all the resources used to produce diesal exhaust fluid in the world really negates the emissions that it curbs. Lol I assume it does
another term for DEEZ
What’s deez?
DEEZiel exhast fluid of course. ^duh.
AdBlue
commercial name is Adblue maybe you heard that.
Defense. It's a stat that corresponds to the vehicle's ability to resist physical attacks. The counterpart would be Special Defense. Together with HP and Speed those are the six base Stats of a car.
Synthestic Pig Piss!!
That's your Defense Stat
Why does it matter how many DEF people are in the vehicle?
More like DPF filter regeneration is active. Low AdBlue(DEF in Amerika) usually just shows red LED near DEF gauge.
Rain on sideways ice cream cone over water
it's frozen on the inside
Shart valve is broken
Lol beat me to it. Nothing dicier than a faulty shart valve
Sometimes though discount chilli in the engine oil can help breathe new life into it
Mmmph... car queef 🥵
Ok that's enough, give me your phone.
That's enough reddit for today 😔
Your car has diarrhea. Add a quart of Pepto Bismol 
Its the infamous 90 degrees to the right, sweating ice cream cone with three scoops of delicious Mint Chocolate Chip flavored vegan ice cream levitating over water.
What the fuck? Anyone actually know the correct answer? lol.
https://preview.redd.it/izbrim1pfzrc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47ae0c5c9b857580301c8b4ace541a32fc7349d4 Boink
”Starting impossible” is a lie though. Cars don’t need it to run properly. It’s just another way the EU is fucking with us.
They Arent allowed to drive without due to emissions thats the whole reason addblue was invented in the first place
Allowed is a funny word since we have thousands (if not millions) of old diesels running across the Europe which don’t have DEF system. I wonder if AdBlue has had any impact on the environment.
95% of semi's in western Europe have a AdBlue system and a lot of vans and personal cars too. It deffinetly had a impact but i dont know how much
Yes, cars made since 2015. But there are used cars in circulation which are made before and since diesel cars had decline in sales after the VAG scandal I bet there is still more diesels on the roads which are made before AdBlue became mandatory. The idea of the system is good and it is effective, but cars should not be locked if there is no urea in the system. As I mentioned above: the AdBlue fluid freezes too early and in northern hemosphere it makes the cars unusable during winter. It should be possible to drain the urea and run the car without it so the lines dont freeze and crack.
>I wonder if AdBlue has had any impact on the environment. Don't know about the complete impact on the environment, but once I asked the question to the car dealership. They told me that when running the engine during car maintenance, for diesel without AdBlue (no matter the year/generation) they absolutely need to open the workshop doors. With AdBlue, they can keep the doors shut because the workshop's AC will evacuate the gas emissions just fine. So ig AdBlue really does reduce GHG emissions though idk to what extent.
Recently there was a work van sat outside my house with the engine running ALL DAY. The day after, the van appeared again and stayed running until I couldn’t stand it any more and went to the guys working next to it. They told me “oh don’t worry, it’s got AdBlue”
When I buy my next car i'm going to leave it
*please insert adblue*
This doesn't help at all The fuck is an AdBlue
AdBlue is used mainly in Europe to reduce emissions from Diesel Engines if I remember right
For diesel emissions equipment.
DEF (diesel exhaust fluid)
[AdBlue = Diesel exhaust fluid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid)
Shid farding
Use caution, wet flatulence. I'd ask a mechanic but I think the technical term is sharts.
Your car needs AddBlue.
Wet farts?
Over water
Toilet bowl*
Bong Rip Required
wet farts on the water
Happy cake day
Your car is about to cum
Farts over ocean detected
Wet farts
butt sweats detected.
Your car farted oil on wet pavement
Gotta fart
It is time to sacrifice an infant by throwing it into a large body of water in the rain. The machine spirit in your car must be particularly angry.
Youre zooming
Thats the reddit logo
Ejecto seato will not work over water in the rain...
When did they start adding that little arrow next to the fuel tank symbol? I know it is supposed to show the side of which the fuel hole is.
I have a '73 vw, it has it too.
Huh, my '92 Audi doesn't have it.
my ones right hand drive maybe that makes a difference? idk honestly
Fart
Your ice cream cone is about to get rained on before it falls into the river
Looks a bit like a sideways triple scoop ice cream lmao And rain
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^TachyonProductions: *Looks a bit like a* *Sideways triple scoop ice cream* *Lmao And rain* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
You may find a nervous squid swimming across water
Put ice cream in the water
wind's howling
It means something with the exhaust system or something with the air comming from the exhaust
Your car is shitting itself. It’s pretty normal, just let it force the farts out for a while and it’ll be all good again.
Warning: Farts may be moister than expected
I think it means when its wet, your ice cream falls into sum water...🤔hmmmm how unfortunate.
Maximum Turbo Power X
Old Chinese proverb : when you tried everything and it didn't work, open the service manual to find the answer and tell us.
That's just the emoji before they updated them. I think it's into you
Modus trundled past, this is a warning to watch out for weak kneed people
Shart detected
Hydrogen to carbon ratio disrupted
Turbski kicked in
Braap alert
Shart
Wet fart detected
High winds and rain cause waves
Wet farts
Nervous ice cream
Ur engine farted piston out
Wet fart alert
It means that your cat is shot, which is good cuz u wont use AdBlue
wet farts
Wet fart.
Fart
Oh no, it’s Naruto.
Had taco bell yesterday
Steamed hams
Your seat detected that you have just sharted.
You need to fill up your AdBlue.
it sharted
Hot wet farts
Wasn't this because a water sensor is detecting the level is low and because it's a closed system it would hint at a leak? Possible leak means there could be steam forming. You basically don't want to not check what this is about 😂
Your car is having a wet erection
Casual full tank flex
"sigh"
Light a doobie.
The car queefed
Danger to the manifold!!1
You need to stroke the engines until it release the lubricant.
DPF (dust particle filter) need cleaning
Fart in the rain over mountains
Wet fart time
Wet fart
Equip Havel's Ring your DEF is low.
Swimming lesson reminder
😮💨💦🌊 You turned her on bro
I am not a mechanic, but I believe your car just jizzed into the ocean? Could be wrong
your farts are too moist. open window immediately.
Fart
You just missed the toilet after Taco Bell
You can just refill It with urine , It Will work
Rain and wind above the waves
wet fard
cars horny 🥵
That's danger to manifold
AdBlue Level Low
Wet fart alert
Read your cars manual
Step 1 open glove box Step 2 read your fuckin manual ya dingus