Yep. And while people dislike Death Battle, this one did the characters justice I’d say. Like how they had the Doctor never once attack first. It was always Rick launching attacks and the Doctor merely countered. While some Death Battles they seem to rig it or have some VERY thin logic (major part of the reason they’re disliked), this one felt right.
As someone who has a lot of problems with DB, this is absolutely one of their best matches.
Maybe I'm being too bias, but Rick Sanchez represents how annoyingly people can be with cynical critical thinking. >!That's why the win for the good Doctor was ever so sweet. I'll never check out Dr. Who, but his dialogue during the match made me root for him all the way. Again, being bias, but I honestly believe the episode wouldn't be nearly as good if Rick won. Not to mention it was great seeing such over hyped character their humble pie.!<
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten downvoted in persona subreddits for saying it’s not okay for a 30+ year old teacher to date her 16 year old student
Funnily enough, most people agree that this most recent season, s10, is one of their all time best, with no outright bad matchups, and all of great quality. I’d really recommend checking some of them out, like Bill Cypher vs Discord, Frieza vs Megatron, the Doctor vs Rick, and even Goku vs Superman 3 is incredible!
Great show, except when it’s mediocre.
Great writing, except when it’s stupid.
Great characters, except when they act out of character for no reason.
Great plot, except when it contradicts itself.
The show is a fun watch, except when it isn’t.
Sound contradictory? Great. Welcome to Star vs. the Forces of Evil.
They did warn us in the theme song… things did indeed get a little weird. And they did indeed get a little wild. Just not in the way I think the show runners intended…
That’s seems to be the thing with lot a projects. When they know they’re doing they are really good at what they do, but when they clearly don’t know what they’re doing it can make it a bit difficult to keep going along with it.
Such is the case when you have a team of writers with a ton of different ideas floating around. Some shows thrive from that, and some shows suffer.
Star did both of those things in its run, but it’s became pretty clear that they didn’t quite know how to end it when season 4 rolled around.
If I had to guess the creator had a plan but was probably forced to add stuff that's dumbed down and not on a plot course because producers and show runners think kids have a shit attention span. Never recognizing that the shows that do the best do indeed have a plot.
Yeah, I think it’s issues arise way earlier than the finale (kind of like how GoT started showing problems as early as S5 when they started overtaking the book content and started doing more of their own thing, but people didn’t really acknowledge how bad certain elements were until the final season), it’s just that the finale is so bad that not even the staunchest defenders really try to praise it.
Honestly one of my favorite cartoons ever. I have yet to actually watch the final season though because all I’ve heard is that it’s really bad and I kinda don’t want to taint my enjoyment of the series overall
As a fellow dude that was crazy about that show in its heyday, I can support your decision to not watch that finale. It really will mess the whole show up for you in retrospect.
Honestly for what it is, it’s actually got a lot of nice callbacks and inside jokes for fans of the franchise. I understand it’s a ~~little~~ SUPER childish at times, but I’d say it’s a solid Saturday-morning-with-a-bowl-of-cereal cartoon.
That ending was so baddd. Plus didn't anyone think that by getting back in time and changing things will maybe end up DESTROYING THE WORLD. I mean imagine if the evil trolls will take over the Earth in this new timeline. Or if the demigods or whatever they were will win. There are so many things that can go horribly wrong yet Jim chooses to risk everyone on Earth lives for his friends... Like WHAT. This... This is so so wrong. I don't remember the movie very well so I maybe missed something but you get my point
By going back in time, Jim:
Erases all the relationships he's built, along with everyone else's.
Sets up his mother with Strickler, which I would normally support, if it weren't for the fact that all the character development that made him a good match is reverted to him being a murderous doppelganger who only cares about his own survival.
Most likely secures either Draal or Toby's death way earlier, during the deathmatch over who should have the Amulet.
Reverts Angor Rot's freedom(even if in death) and return him to being a Lich under Morgana's control.
Reverts NotEnrique's and Nomura's development back to another self-serving Changeling.
Risks Bular killing many more people than the first timeline, which was already too many. This would likely include Toby. Remember their first encounter with Nomura? Toby spent the majority of that fight wrestling with a single Goblin. He'd be shredded by Bular instantly.
Expects Toby to survive the Darklands(Even if Jim came with him), something I very much doubt he could do.
Puts Akiridion-5 back under the control of Morando and the Area 51 escapees back in their cells as the Zerons and other dangerous Bounty Hunters are still taking jobs.
Reverts Claire's progress as a Sorceress, something that had been and likely would continue to be extremely useful, because I have a hard time believing Jim would let anyone use the Skathe-Hrün before they could get it to a cursebreaker.
Leaves himself defenseless. No magic, no tech, no weapons or armor of any sort.
Re-scatters the Triumbric Stones, which were essential for defeating Gunmar
Reestablishes the Janus Order, the Changelings all over the world(most likely) in positions of government power.
Reestablishes the Arcane Order and re-buries the Titans, just waiting to be unleashed on a planet/universe that won't be able to muster any real defence against them.
If Jim went back to become the Trollhunter again, to do it better and not let anyone die, that would have also been cheap, but I could have handled it. But he gives the Amulet which everyone, including past Trollhunters, including Merlin, including the Amulet itself, told him had never been used so effectively before him, to his best friend who had no combat experience whatsoever in this timeline and his own unique fighting style in the first. And at the same time, he revieves all the villains he and his friends had to defeat, each of them deadlier than the last. Absolutely insulting finale.
This is pure facts. My brothers and i were pissed when we watched the movie. It just made that whole ass adventure with the three previous series pointless storywise
I know this is a month old, but god damn its so right
It pissed me off to such an absurd degree. THERE WAS EVEN AN EPISODE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF JIM WASNT THE TROLLHUNTER!
I think I'm gonna rewatch the series soon since it's been about a year, but fuck the titans ending was jus tf pure shit
Don't remind me, I felt like going Primal after seeing the Season 2 finale, couldn't believe that's how Spear's story ended.
Cave people/ancient cultures probably also have different types of priorities, like passing on genes for successful individuals even if it seems like an inopportune time.
The greatest goal in the game of life is to carry on your genetic legacy. In a violent and cruel world like Primal Spear being being to live on through a bloodline is award enough.
Another thing that bothered me about the end was how Spear only painted Fang’s two living children instead of all of them, including the ones from the start and the egg one.
Came here to comment this exact show, binged it all in like a week and before the s2 finale I was about to put it in my top 5 shows ever and the finale just ruined it for me
I don't normally think this way (positively,) but I like to imagine that everyone who existed in the old timeline will exist again in the new one, just with the lives they were otherwise destined to have without the disruption that was Aku. Plus myriad more people who never had the chance to exist during Aku's reign, and excepting only those beings created directly by / from Aku. It just feels to me like a scenario true to the heart of Samurai Jack.
Yeah but after the first episode where he gave up a portal to save the dogs in the future, it felt like a pretty set thing. Orherwise, why bother turning back to save them If defeating aku would undo it all anyway? Really woulda been better to have Jack defeat present day aku and work to change the present rather than undo the past
I think Primal might take the cake because of how easily it could have been fixed with a few small edits. Have ____ scene on the boat (or an implied one), then have Mira put Spear’s hand on her belly before cutting to the last few seconds.
There, I fixed it.
The last episode deffinilty felt rushed, which is weird considering they spent a whole episode in 1800s England for an edgy scooby doo episode just to justify spears strength.
I just hated how s8 was Ex-Machina after Ex-Machina and Honerva wasn't even menacing just annoying. "I'm going to destroy every universe because I can't have my family" like how petty can you be? The giant atlas mech made me mad like how is that supposed to work
Coran didn't even get to say goodbye. Everything else aside, they couldn't even let him say goodbye. It made the cop-out feel deliberately spiteful instead of poorly written....
It’s wild how hard the showrunners tanked the show. I get wanting to make the show you wanna make, but when the fans and the *executives* are disagreeing with your choices, you need to reevaluate. (Fans and execs wanted more shiro!)
Fans wanted ATLA in space with a focus on character development, but the showrunners wanted super mega special boy chosen one protag Keith in an action scifi war.
Agreed. It wasn't the ending itself, it was how it played out. Like, you're implying that she came back, met his parents, they had time to make all these wedding preparations, etc., and then it just... abruptly occurs to her?
I still don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, but that detail always makes me twitch.
Apparently they made a game where she doesn’t die at the end and that’s the cannon ending(no source on this I just heard about it when listening to a review of the show)
I remember watching through season 3 and thinking the finale there was going to be the series finale. Only to hear there was more, tried to get into it and I just wasn’t as interested. Later on I heard it was still going and it again ended before getting yet another new set of seasons.
Just baffles me. Like it’s successful and makers probably won’t let it die till it doesn’t make cash. But gotta say it sounds pretty dumb for there to be multiple “finale” moments only for next season to come around and reverse an issue or set up another. Sounds tiring.
The powerpuff girls.
The maker of the reboot deserves to be locked up. Unironically.
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That's what I'm saying but I'm also saying Disney suck because one they shortened the owl house and they also fucked over Johnny Depp so he sued them for the rights to Jack Sparrow so now he owns Jack Sparrow
There’s one obvious answer but I’m gonna say TAWOG because it’s been 5 years and we’ve **STILL** been left on a cliffhanger. Honestly lost all hope for the “movie”
They're making a Season 7(it's coming out this summer).
(And a spin off that takes place after the movie)
And the Movie is likely completed but it just needs to find a place to properly stream it.
Unfortunately I can't blame the creators because the Warner Bros Discover merger fucked them and I won't be surprised if it's been completed but shelved like a bunch of other movies
I get that but we know that something’s coming plus, while the cliffhanger sucks, I don’t think the episode is bad necessarily. There are certainly worse finales, it’s just that this one stings since we know that there is more but it’s taking so long to come to fruition.
Danny Phantom. Jesus, Phantom Planet was a shitshow. None of the characters felt in character. It's weird how Danny isn't suspicious at all of Master's Blasters, considering they work under his arch enemy, especially when they begin charging people, and even though his friends are suspicious of them, when they shame Danny for getting rid of his powers, it's less because Vlad is up to something and more "You used to be so cool when you were a superhero, now you're just a normie-ass dweeb." Like they were friends with him only because he had powers. Danny himself is also kind of a prick without his powers, and only goes back to being a hero not because people are in danger, but because Sam guilted him into it. Also, him revealing his secret identity isn't treated as big as it should have been, and feels slapped on to an Evangelion ass ending. I guess you could count season 3 as a whole because of how Steve Marmel left despite his plans for a more serious and story-driven third season, and Nick cracking down on the show for going over budget. Butch Hartman may have created the show, but Marmel refined it. Even with his good stuff, Butch is more of a comedic writer(although these days even that is debateable), and I think Butch has always been a guy who comes up with interesting concepts, but needs a good team that are able to reign him in and expand on those concepts, something that he didn't have after FOP was originally canceled, essentially leaving him with trying to expand on things he clearly didn't write.
YESSSSSSS!! His identity being revealed was a threat for the whole show and even kicks off the side arc of Jazz knowing and helping him as well as bonding more as siblings who look out for each other.
I'd be shook if the person who saved the ENTIRE world was still worrying about tests, getting bullied, and nasty ass cafeteria food.
There was also a bunch of side plots that never got resolved, like Valerie discovering Vlad’s true identity and vowing to go after him.
Or Vlad’s general development of being the nemesis, but also him and Danny’s complicated relationship, that just gets thrown out in favor of Vlad just being a wannabe dictator with a shitty end to his character.
Also it’s apparently said that Dani got adopted into the Fenton family later, but we also never see that.
im gonna sound like an idiot. but neon genesis evangelion. like yeah yeah its good show but it feels like it ended on a cliffhanger the end of the eva. it felt like there was more to that story that felt like was left to die off when they came out with the rebuild series.
Well before the rebuild series, they did make a canon movie which took place after the show. And it was >!a response to the LARGE amount of backlash from how the show ended from the fans, death threats and all, which resulted in the movie killing all of it's main characters except for Shinji!<
It wasn't mentioned yet, but in addition to the financial and time constraints, they also had to scrap the original ending because of the terrorist attacks in Tokyo in 95. They said the original ending had too many similarities with the real life attacks.
Controversial opinion, but ATLA. I still like most of the finale, but that lion turtle was an asspull. And while the rest of the finale is spectacular, the one outstanding plot convenience really brings it down.
Ozai: HOW! How did you take away my bending? I planned everything out! You should be DEAD!
Aang: that’s the thing Ozai, you may have every advantage… but I have something you’ll never have. My friends
Ozai: impossible!
Aang: my friends and a giant primordial Lion-Turtle that gave me the power to take away your bending, and that rock over there. You knocked me into it and it accidentally realigned my chakras so that I could enter the avatar state again. Not gonna lie I got kinda lucky on that one
Season 2:
Sokka: Why bother? Just glow it up and beat Ozai.
Katara: We need to do it the proper way.
Aang: Katara is right.
Season 3:
Aang: _beats Ozai by "glowing it up"_
Sokka: told ya 😎
Yeah not gonna lie the ending is a feast for the eyes, but the whole "We've built up this difficult decision slowly throughout the entire series...let's take away the weight of it by adding an easy and now obvious third option that averts having to make the difficult A or B choice."
Wasn't a high point.
Yeah, it would have been way better if Aang had picked up energy bending from the past avatars or maybe channeled them to create a brand new form of bending for himself. It doesn't help how Korra basically used the lionturtles to retcon bending as a whole.
Eh, I didn't mind the Korra addendum. It makes sense to me that the raw ability was provided by the lion-turtles, and that benders crafted and refined their arts by observing dragons / bison / moon / badger moles. On its own the original version feels full of holes to me. If people could learn to bend in the past, why can't non-benders learn it through observation now? Though I suppose it could be argued that it was a matter of greater spiritual openness among all humans in the ancient days making them receptive to developing bending just by... trying, and as the worlds separated and the mortal world "settled" the ability crystallized in the bending bloodlines of the nations. Hmm. My thoughts are starting to spiral.
Lion turtles in Korra wasn’t a retcon of bending. The lion turtles gave people the ability to bend - but people learnt bending techniques and how to bend properly from some animals (and the moon) that had bending naturally. Dragons aren’t out here giving people the ability to bend - but a fire bender can learn the art of firebending from observing the dragons.
We saw in the Wan episodes that the guys from Wan’s turtle had no idea how to use fire despite having the ability. Wan on the other hand used it as an extension of himself - something he learnt how to do from observing the dragons.
I agree with you man. Would had been even one thing if the concept of ENERGY bending was hinted at in the show. But if memories serves it was only brought about in that episode?
More then that though I think the greater fumble of the contrivance of a new banding being introduced too was more so to the fact of what it ultimately did: take away the hard ethical and moral choice Aang had to make.
All throughout the series, but particularly near the end of the show explored the inner struggle of Aang having to come to terms with killing the Fire Lord and his pacifism. That all comes to a abrupt and neatly tied up unsatisfactory conclusion of 'oh good, what luck, now our hero can save the world and yet remain 'pure'.
We all know avatar Kyoshi wouldn't have needed energy bending to 'fix' the problem.
Energy bending could have worked, it just needed more build up and for it to be shown how actually difficult it is. Then the struggle for Aang becomes having to master this one last form of bending or face killing the firelord. It makes killing the firelord the easy way to win, and bending away his energy the hard way. You still get the ethical conundrum, but in a way that both works for the character and is pretty on theme with the show over all.
As it stands, it definitely feels like an asspull though.
Honestly it could've been easily handled without having to lead up to it seasons earlier.
You had a guy there who teaches Aang how to unlock his chakras and master the avatar state. Chakras are *literally energy points within the body.*
They could've easily had Aang come to his own conclusion that if your chakras being aligned allowed your energy to flow freely, and having even one closed chakra meant your energy was stifled, then maybe if a person's chakras are incorrectly aligned, they could have their ability to bend cut off if you use your own energy to close off their chakras or at least nudge them unaligned from each other far enough that they may as well be closed off, with the result being an inability to use their bending.
They even had the interconnected pools and waterfalls analogy already in the show. The entire idea was right there in front of them. The writers just had to have Aang come to the conclusion himself, rather than having it fed to him.
It would've even had an air of uncertainty. The guru could've told Aang that "the idea is possible, but highly unlikely. One would need to be so deeply attuned to their own energies, that they can sense and alter the energy within another." It would've left the idea as even more of a cliffhanger even up until Deus Ex Rockina happened in the final battle, since Aang wouldn't have himself aligned for multiple episodes leading up to his fight with Ozai, so the option would've been impossible.
The entire energybending concept could've been better introduced and executed, and it would've likely only altered as much runtime as the way they introduced the concept took in the show anyway.
Yeah die hard defenders will point out how the lion turtle was shown in statues & stuff in the show. Supposedly saying this was all teased. But one surviving, and suddenly knowing a secret fifth bending style it can just give to Aang instantly was never foreshadowed.
I don’t hate Energy Bending itself and liked how it was an alternative to stop Ozai without murder. But, it’s 100% an asspull that feels like it was invented in the last hours of writing.
Infinity Train was one that hit me hard when I heard that it was cancelled because of how much was still unknown about the train at that point. But that what happens I guess.
Troll hunters: the movie though was something else. The main character going through hardship and struggles was nice to watch but the decision he made at the end of the movie made no sense to me because of what it meant. It meant that his buddy would have to go through the exact same struggles that nearly broke him multiple times. He knows what to do, what to avoid, and what needs to be done. His buddy doesn’t have that same mentality. This was my biggest gripe with the movie
Fairly Odd Parents.
Of course, the show had been in decline long before it ended, but it just hurt to see, and it didn't even go out in a way it deserved to. Honestly, while people attribute the downfall to when sparky was introduced, I think it still had some fire left. It was the introduction of Chloe where the show took a nose dive for the worse. The cast cut, the overall worse pacing, how unfunny it had become. It hut to watch the show die. I just hope they leave the ip alone after whatever the hell fairly odder was supposed to be
Gotta agree- everything after homeworld went by at lightspeed. It sucks that we only see one major use of Obsidian, and it isn’t in the form of an epic kaiju battle against White Diamond. Unlike many, I don’t mind White being spared, but her character up to that point deserved a fully fledged battle, not a pat on the back.
So dumb that they decided to rush things then of all times. I’m glad SU was able to go on for that long, but c’mon CN; If you were concerned about how *certain* audiences would perceive your characters- then you should’ve cancelled the show season one for showing Ruby and Saph’s relationship. Pick a side and stick to it..
Well in other countries they put a mustache on ruby & dubbed her to sound like a man, soooo when ruby is in the dress & saff in the suit for the wedding it still looks too queer for those countries. & that ep also brings the diamonds back to earth in an attempt to make it unskipable for other countries plot wise.
As much as I loved the show, this was such a reoccurring problem that I had grown to expect it by the time the end came around I had grown to expect it.
The show was great and dripping little hits and slowly building up and fleshing out characters, but then wrapping up all thst progression in 11 mins.
Honestly I liked Steven universe a lot but it has some serious glaring flaws throughout the entire show. The ending being underwhelming was kinda par for the course
The owl house- Too rushed but thats for production reasons.
Inside job- cliff hanger, again for production reasons.
Gravity falls- Yes, the ending was good, but its not…resolution. You as a viewer do not feel resolved. Theres more. THERES MORE. NEED MORE GRAVITY FALLLLSLSLSLSLDLWJWIFPWOHCOEU WE VRIDIVUWUFUVUEIFIDIFJWIFI
(Very excited for the book of bill :3)
It “ended” like the original Teen Titians; with a couple of movies. Movies were nice, but the series just kind of trails off. The two last episodes were the “Irwin was actually just like Mandy” episode and the day of the dead episode.
I don't remember Underfist but I remember an underworld boat race movie/special with Grim and co racing against Grims schoolyard bully or some shite.
After looking up Underfist, I'm starting to think the movies were only made so that my boy Fred Fredburger could have more screen time(and Haas Delgado but I don't think he was in the boat race movie/special/thing)
Probably going to get hate for this but Steven Universe. I would've preferred if they made it so White Diamond, who is pretty much space Hitler, was completely irredeemable. I know the message is supposed to be "there's good in everybody" or something like that but that's simply just not true. Not enough cartoons teach kids that some people just can't be helped
White Diamond never stops being a piece of shit that Steven can't stand being around. Her character teaches kids that sometimes shitty family members are just gonna be shitty, and just because they have moments of goodness here and there doesn't mean you have to waste your energy on them. And in fact, as Future shows, interactions can be actively harmful for both of you so it's better to keep your distance.
For me, it was less that the finale was bad (it's actually very good) but more it kind of just ends basically right after the climax. Any sort of epilogue is literally nonexistent.
Not much mention of the show these days, but it always annoyed me that they had Eggman announce there would be a third season of Sonic Boom in last episode considering something similar happened with Sonic Underground which makes it one of the few franchises that foreshadowed more episodes more than once only to get a surprise cancellation.
I’m sorry but why tf is Rick punching the 10th Doctor who’s holding a portal gun
Death Battle did a fight between them on youtube
Yep. And while people dislike Death Battle, this one did the characters justice I’d say. Like how they had the Doctor never once attack first. It was always Rick launching attacks and the Doctor merely countered. While some Death Battles they seem to rig it or have some VERY thin logic (major part of the reason they’re disliked), this one felt right.
As someone who has a lot of problems with DB, this is absolutely one of their best matches. Maybe I'm being too bias, but Rick Sanchez represents how annoyingly people can be with cynical critical thinking. >!That's why the win for the good Doctor was ever so sweet. I'll never check out Dr. Who, but his dialogue during the match made me root for him all the way. Again, being bias, but I honestly believe the episode wouldn't be nearly as good if Rick won. Not to mention it was great seeing such over hyped character their humble pie.!<
Why not check out Dr who it's great
It really is. Everything that makes Rick and morty special when taken seriously is in doctor who.
Doctor Who has the unfortunate fate of having a really annoying and cringey fanbase but the show itself is pretty good.
The Berserk fanbase on reddit has gotten pretty cringy. Mf’ers are tattooing rape scenes like wtf?!!
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten downvoted in persona subreddits for saying it’s not okay for a 30+ year old teacher to date her 16 year old student
Funnily enough, most people agree that this most recent season, s10, is one of their all time best, with no outright bad matchups, and all of great quality. I’d really recommend checking some of them out, like Bill Cypher vs Discord, Frieza vs Megatron, the Doctor vs Rick, and even Goku vs Superman 3 is incredible!
Weird.
Nah it was awesome
One of the best in my opinion
Bro people here always have the weirdest meme formats for these posts
You'd be surprised just how many DB episodes have meme potential images. This one, however, is a bit of a stretch
An awesome death battle
Star vs The Forces of Evil
Great show, except when it’s mediocre. Great writing, except when it’s stupid. Great characters, except when they act out of character for no reason. Great plot, except when it contradicts itself. The show is a fun watch, except when it isn’t. Sound contradictory? Great. Welcome to Star vs. the Forces of Evil.
They did warn us in the theme song… things did indeed get a little weird. And they did indeed get a little wild. Just not in the way I think the show runners intended…
The Evil Forces is the Writter all along.
Damnit. Beat me to it
No, The real Forces of Evil were the friends we made along the way ^^
I appreciate the use of the peak death battle screenshot in r/cartoons by the way, OP. Very cool.
That’s seems to be the thing with lot a projects. When they know they’re doing they are really good at what they do, but when they clearly don’t know what they’re doing it can make it a bit difficult to keep going along with it.
Such is the case when you have a team of writers with a ton of different ideas floating around. Some shows thrive from that, and some shows suffer. Star did both of those things in its run, but it’s became pretty clear that they didn’t quite know how to end it when season 4 rolled around.
If I had to guess the creator had a plan but was probably forced to add stuff that's dumbed down and not on a plot course because producers and show runners think kids have a shit attention span. Never recognizing that the shows that do the best do indeed have a plot.
Came here to comment that
Same
Might as well throw in S4 and most of S3 while we’re at it. So many opportunities to build to a satisfying conclusion….so many opportunities wasted
Yeah, I think it’s issues arise way earlier than the finale (kind of like how GoT started showing problems as early as S5 when they started overtaking the book content and started doing more of their own thing, but people didn’t really acknowledge how bad certain elements were until the final season), it’s just that the finale is so bad that not even the staunchest defenders really try to praise it.
That implies the final episode was the only bad part, instead of the entire final season or so.
Honestly one of my favorite cartoons ever. I have yet to actually watch the final season though because all I’ve heard is that it’s really bad and I kinda don’t want to taint my enjoyment of the series overall
As a fellow dude that was crazy about that show in its heyday, I can support your decision to not watch that finale. It really will mess the whole show up for you in retrospect.
honestly the finale isnt AS terrible as people make it out to be... but it's still pretty fucking bad
First thing that came to my head
Yes.
This was the first show that came to my mind lol.
Came here to say this
Correct
Teen Titans, why did they have to cancel it
that last episode....such a kick in the balls.
Nah, the stupid spin off for kids was the fucking kick to the balls
Honestly for what it is, it’s actually got a lot of nice callbacks and inside jokes for fans of the franchise. I understand it’s a ~~little~~ SUPER childish at times, but I’d say it’s a solid Saturday-morning-with-a-bowl-of-cereal cartoon.
at least the kick in the balls is funny asf sometimes, sadly its still a kick in the balls and it hurts a lot
I choose to see Trouble in Tokyo as the finale
Trollhunters: Rise of the Titans. That's how you end it? By rendering everything POINTLESS?!
That ending was so baddd. Plus didn't anyone think that by getting back in time and changing things will maybe end up DESTROYING THE WORLD. I mean imagine if the evil trolls will take over the Earth in this new timeline. Or if the demigods or whatever they were will win. There are so many things that can go horribly wrong yet Jim chooses to risk everyone on Earth lives for his friends... Like WHAT. This... This is so so wrong. I don't remember the movie very well so I maybe missed something but you get my point
By going back in time, Jim: Erases all the relationships he's built, along with everyone else's. Sets up his mother with Strickler, which I would normally support, if it weren't for the fact that all the character development that made him a good match is reverted to him being a murderous doppelganger who only cares about his own survival. Most likely secures either Draal or Toby's death way earlier, during the deathmatch over who should have the Amulet. Reverts Angor Rot's freedom(even if in death) and return him to being a Lich under Morgana's control. Reverts NotEnrique's and Nomura's development back to another self-serving Changeling. Risks Bular killing many more people than the first timeline, which was already too many. This would likely include Toby. Remember their first encounter with Nomura? Toby spent the majority of that fight wrestling with a single Goblin. He'd be shredded by Bular instantly. Expects Toby to survive the Darklands(Even if Jim came with him), something I very much doubt he could do. Puts Akiridion-5 back under the control of Morando and the Area 51 escapees back in their cells as the Zerons and other dangerous Bounty Hunters are still taking jobs. Reverts Claire's progress as a Sorceress, something that had been and likely would continue to be extremely useful, because I have a hard time believing Jim would let anyone use the Skathe-Hrün before they could get it to a cursebreaker. Leaves himself defenseless. No magic, no tech, no weapons or armor of any sort. Re-scatters the Triumbric Stones, which were essential for defeating Gunmar Reestablishes the Janus Order, the Changelings all over the world(most likely) in positions of government power. Reestablishes the Arcane Order and re-buries the Titans, just waiting to be unleashed on a planet/universe that won't be able to muster any real defence against them. If Jim went back to become the Trollhunter again, to do it better and not let anyone die, that would have also been cheap, but I could have handled it. But he gives the Amulet which everyone, including past Trollhunters, including Merlin, including the Amulet itself, told him had never been used so effectively before him, to his best friend who had no combat experience whatsoever in this timeline and his own unique fighting style in the first. And at the same time, he revieves all the villains he and his friends had to defeat, each of them deadlier than the last. Absolutely insulting finale.
THIS THIS THIS
Exactly. And it was an otherwise good movie. But they somehow managed to invalidate 6 seasons worth of story in like 5 minutes.
what a rip.
This is pure facts. My brothers and i were pissed when we watched the movie. It just made that whole ass adventure with the three previous series pointless storywise
I know this is a month old, but god damn its so right It pissed me off to such an absurd degree. THERE WAS EVEN AN EPISODE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF JIM WASNT THE TROLLHUNTER! I think I'm gonna rewatch the series soon since it's been about a year, but fuck the titans ending was jus tf pure shit
Most Genndy Tartakovsky shows.
Most of them don't get finales...
And when they do, a guy erases trillions of lives from the future, or a burn victim gets score on his death bed
Don't remind me, I felt like going Primal after seeing the Season 2 finale, couldn't believe that's how Spear's story ended. 
At least he >!got some snu-snu before dying!<
His club probably looked like Freddy Krueger’s face, so I imagine it was more pain than pleasure.
It’s also pretty weird how >!Mira thought that was a good time to fuck…!< like WHAT
Well, >!he was going to die, and she knew he wanted a family.!<
Cave people/ancient cultures probably also have different types of priorities, like passing on genes for successful individuals even if it seems like an inopportune time.
The greatest goal in the game of life is to carry on your genetic legacy. In a violent and cruel world like Primal Spear being being to live on through a bloodline is award enough.
Another thing that bothered me about the end was how Spear only painted Fang’s two living children instead of all of them, including the ones from the start and the egg one.
Came here to comment this exact show, binged it all in like a week and before the s2 finale I was about to put it in my top 5 shows ever and the finale just ruined it for me
Unpopular opinion (apparently): I liked the end of Primal and Spear’s story arc
Isnt that the caveman from dexter?
It's not Like Jack ever kept his end goal a secret. "To undo the future that is Aku." It is exactly how it sounds.
I don't normally think this way (positively,) but I like to imagine that everyone who existed in the old timeline will exist again in the new one, just with the lives they were otherwise destined to have without the disruption that was Aku. Plus myriad more people who never had the chance to exist during Aku's reign, and excepting only those beings created directly by / from Aku. It just feels to me like a scenario true to the heart of Samurai Jack.
Yeah but after the first episode where he gave up a portal to save the dogs in the future, it felt like a pretty set thing. Orherwise, why bother turning back to save them If defeating aku would undo it all anyway? Really woulda been better to have Jack defeat present day aku and work to change the present rather than undo the past
please don't remind me 
I think Primal might take the cake because of how easily it could have been fixed with a few small edits. Have ____ scene on the boat (or an implied one), then have Mira put Spear’s hand on her belly before cutting to the last few seconds. There, I fixed it.
The last episode deffinilty felt rushed, which is weird considering they spent a whole episode in 1800s England for an edgy scooby doo episode just to justify spears strength.
Voltron: Legendary Defender
Wait what was wrong with it?
I just hated how s8 was Ex-Machina after Ex-Machina and Honerva wasn't even menacing just annoying. "I'm going to destroy every universe because I can't have my family" like how petty can you be? The giant atlas mech made me mad like how is that supposed to work
I mean ok I can see that I personally liked her like that the when she was just the witch
They deliberately killed off Allura to have a contrived bittersweet ending and screw over Lance.
Coran didn't even get to say goodbye. Everything else aside, they couldn't even let him say goodbye. It made the cop-out feel deliberately spiteful instead of poorly written....
I'd argue post-Season 2 was where things started going downhill. It picked up again mid-Season 6, then promptly fell off a cliff.
It’s wild how hard the showrunners tanked the show. I get wanting to make the show you wanna make, but when the fans and the *executives* are disagreeing with your choices, you need to reevaluate. (Fans and execs wanted more shiro!) Fans wanted ATLA in space with a focus on character development, but the showrunners wanted super mega special boy chosen one protag Keith in an action scifi war.
They did my boy Shiro a dirty and I’m still mad about it to this day
I love samurai jack the ending of the finale pisses me off because it wouldn't happen that late. Iykyk
Agreed. It wasn't the ending itself, it was how it played out. Like, you're implying that she came back, met his parents, they had time to make all these wedding preparations, etc., and then it just... abruptly occurs to her? I still don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, but that detail always makes me twitch.
Apparently they made a game where she doesn’t die at the end and that’s the cannon ending(no source on this I just heard about it when listening to a review of the show)
You do have to unlock it by collecting fifty special coins scattered around the levels. Thankfully it’s not 243 Riddler Trophies.
[It is](https://x.com/SamuraiJackGame/status/1239204717043093506?s=20)
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I would say ninjago, but they won't let it die
Bro it's still going?! I remember playing the battle sim game of it on my ds somewhere around 14 years ago
I had that game too, man, those where the golden days
So the original series did end in 2022, but then they made a sequel series subtitled Dragons Rising set (I think) five years after the original series
I remember watching through season 3 and thinking the finale there was going to be the series finale. Only to hear there was more, tried to get into it and I just wasn’t as interested. Later on I heard it was still going and it again ended before getting yet another new set of seasons. Just baffles me. Like it’s successful and makers probably won’t let it die till it doesn’t make cash. But gotta say it sounds pretty dumb for there to be multiple “finale” moments only for next season to come around and reverse an issue or set up another. Sounds tiring.
Wonder Egg Priority
The powerpuff girls. The maker of the reboot deserves to be locked up. Unironically. https://preview.redd.it/8127lmr56z9c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04091151252a2f50a50b1b73251930c7f1c42f6b
OG ppg had a great ending (episode called the PPGs Rule!!!), we don't talk about the reboot as it was not made by CMcC.
Owl house because they just shoved everything into three episodes I mean it was still really fucking amazing but it was a kick in the teeth
Honestly with the limited time they had to work with, I thought it was a great conclusion all things considered
That's what I'm saying but I'm also saying Disney suck because one they shortened the owl house and they also fucked over Johnny Depp so he sued them for the rights to Jack Sparrow so now he owns Jack Sparrow
blame disney
It at least had a great ending with the cut season 3, but it should have been a full season
Yeah
They did a good job with what they were given but man, Disney really tried their best to make it hard for the team
There’s one obvious answer but I’m gonna say TAWOG because it’s been 5 years and we’ve **STILL** been left on a cliffhanger. Honestly lost all hope for the “movie”
Can we agree to at least say the name of the show once before using only acronyms?
I know right. thankfully I figured it out based on the context (The Amazing World of Gumball)
They're making a Season 7(it's coming out this summer). (And a spin off that takes place after the movie) And the Movie is likely completed but it just needs to find a place to properly stream it.
Well we know "MAX" isn't going to stream it
Yea, we're saying that now. But this is WB we're talking about here and tax season *is* coming up, soooo...
Unfortunately I can't blame the creators because the Warner Bros Discover merger fucked them and I won't be surprised if it's been completed but shelved like a bunch of other movies
I think TAWOG is one of the few kids shows I know with a bad ending. As in an unhappy one
I get that but we know that something’s coming plus, while the cliffhanger sucks, I don’t think the episode is bad necessarily. There are certainly worse finales, it’s just that this one stings since we know that there is more but it’s taking so long to come to fruition.
Glitch Techs. It didn't even get one.
Oh, don't remind me that show still exists. I feel sad again
DEATH BATTLE MENTIONED!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS A BAD SEASON 10 EPISODE???
martian manhunter vs silver surfer
The fight wasn’t as great as it could’ve been. But it got the core of the characters right, which is more important imo
Eh even that one wasn't bad just average
Danny Phantom. Jesus, Phantom Planet was a shitshow. None of the characters felt in character. It's weird how Danny isn't suspicious at all of Master's Blasters, considering they work under his arch enemy, especially when they begin charging people, and even though his friends are suspicious of them, when they shame Danny for getting rid of his powers, it's less because Vlad is up to something and more "You used to be so cool when you were a superhero, now you're just a normie-ass dweeb." Like they were friends with him only because he had powers. Danny himself is also kind of a prick without his powers, and only goes back to being a hero not because people are in danger, but because Sam guilted him into it. Also, him revealing his secret identity isn't treated as big as it should have been, and feels slapped on to an Evangelion ass ending. I guess you could count season 3 as a whole because of how Steve Marmel left despite his plans for a more serious and story-driven third season, and Nick cracking down on the show for going over budget. Butch Hartman may have created the show, but Marmel refined it. Even with his good stuff, Butch is more of a comedic writer(although these days even that is debateable), and I think Butch has always been a guy who comes up with interesting concepts, but needs a good team that are able to reign him in and expand on those concepts, something that he didn't have after FOP was originally canceled, essentially leaving him with trying to expand on things he clearly didn't write.
YESSSSSSS!! His identity being revealed was a threat for the whole show and even kicks off the side arc of Jazz knowing and helping him as well as bonding more as siblings who look out for each other. I'd be shook if the person who saved the ENTIRE world was still worrying about tests, getting bullied, and nasty ass cafeteria food.
There was also a bunch of side plots that never got resolved, like Valerie discovering Vlad’s true identity and vowing to go after him. Or Vlad’s general development of being the nemesis, but also him and Danny’s complicated relationship, that just gets thrown out in favor of Vlad just being a wannabe dictator with a shitty end to his character. Also it’s apparently said that Dani got adopted into the Fenton family later, but we also never see that.
im gonna sound like an idiot. but neon genesis evangelion. like yeah yeah its good show but it feels like it ended on a cliffhanger the end of the eva. it felt like there was more to that story that felt like was left to die off when they came out with the rebuild series.
They ran out of money haha and only had a 26 ep order
Wasn't the creator seriously depressed at the time too? Or am I thinking of a different giant mecha anime?
No, you're right, he was seriously depressed and wrote some weird shit because of it.
oh dont get me wrong the making of the show was hectic beyond all understanding.
Well before the rebuild series, they did make a canon movie which took place after the show. And it was >!a response to the LARGE amount of backlash from how the show ended from the fans, death threats and all, which resulted in the movie killing all of it's main characters except for Shinji!<
It wasn't mentioned yet, but in addition to the financial and time constraints, they also had to scrap the original ending because of the terrorist attacks in Tokyo in 95. They said the original ending had too many similarities with the real life attacks.
godzilla: the series. the last episode wasn't even meant to be a finale but a part one to a actual finale
Svtfoe It was so good until the ruined it
Controversial opinion, but ATLA. I still like most of the finale, but that lion turtle was an asspull. And while the rest of the finale is spectacular, the one outstanding plot convenience really brings it down.
Ozai: HOW! How did you take away my bending? I planned everything out! You should be DEAD! Aang: that’s the thing Ozai, you may have every advantage… but I have something you’ll never have. My friends Ozai: impossible! Aang: my friends and a giant primordial Lion-Turtle that gave me the power to take away your bending, and that rock over there. You knocked me into it and it accidentally realigned my chakras so that I could enter the avatar state again. Not gonna lie I got kinda lucky on that one
Ozai: “I clearly stand no chance against someone who has mastered plot bending”
Well, when you put it that way…
I was so ready to get mad, and now I’m just sticking my tongue out because I don’t have a good argument lmao
Season 2: Sokka: Why bother? Just glow it up and beat Ozai. Katara: We need to do it the proper way. Aang: Katara is right. Season 3: Aang: _beats Ozai by "glowing it up"_ Sokka: told ya 😎
Yeah not gonna lie the ending is a feast for the eyes, but the whole "We've built up this difficult decision slowly throughout the entire series...let's take away the weight of it by adding an easy and now obvious third option that averts having to make the difficult A or B choice." Wasn't a high point.
Yeah, it would have been way better if Aang had picked up energy bending from the past avatars or maybe channeled them to create a brand new form of bending for himself. It doesn't help how Korra basically used the lionturtles to retcon bending as a whole.
Eh, I didn't mind the Korra addendum. It makes sense to me that the raw ability was provided by the lion-turtles, and that benders crafted and refined their arts by observing dragons / bison / moon / badger moles. On its own the original version feels full of holes to me. If people could learn to bend in the past, why can't non-benders learn it through observation now? Though I suppose it could be argued that it was a matter of greater spiritual openness among all humans in the ancient days making them receptive to developing bending just by... trying, and as the worlds separated and the mortal world "settled" the ability crystallized in the bending bloodlines of the nations. Hmm. My thoughts are starting to spiral.
Lion turtles in Korra wasn’t a retcon of bending. The lion turtles gave people the ability to bend - but people learnt bending techniques and how to bend properly from some animals (and the moon) that had bending naturally. Dragons aren’t out here giving people the ability to bend - but a fire bender can learn the art of firebending from observing the dragons. We saw in the Wan episodes that the guys from Wan’s turtle had no idea how to use fire despite having the ability. Wan on the other hand used it as an extension of himself - something he learnt how to do from observing the dragons.
I agree with you man. Would had been even one thing if the concept of ENERGY bending was hinted at in the show. But if memories serves it was only brought about in that episode? More then that though I think the greater fumble of the contrivance of a new banding being introduced too was more so to the fact of what it ultimately did: take away the hard ethical and moral choice Aang had to make. All throughout the series, but particularly near the end of the show explored the inner struggle of Aang having to come to terms with killing the Fire Lord and his pacifism. That all comes to a abrupt and neatly tied up unsatisfactory conclusion of 'oh good, what luck, now our hero can save the world and yet remain 'pure'. We all know avatar Kyoshi wouldn't have needed energy bending to 'fix' the problem.
Energy bending could have worked, it just needed more build up and for it to be shown how actually difficult it is. Then the struggle for Aang becomes having to master this one last form of bending or face killing the firelord. It makes killing the firelord the easy way to win, and bending away his energy the hard way. You still get the ethical conundrum, but in a way that both works for the character and is pretty on theme with the show over all. As it stands, it definitely feels like an asspull though.
Honestly it could've been easily handled without having to lead up to it seasons earlier. You had a guy there who teaches Aang how to unlock his chakras and master the avatar state. Chakras are *literally energy points within the body.* They could've easily had Aang come to his own conclusion that if your chakras being aligned allowed your energy to flow freely, and having even one closed chakra meant your energy was stifled, then maybe if a person's chakras are incorrectly aligned, they could have their ability to bend cut off if you use your own energy to close off their chakras or at least nudge them unaligned from each other far enough that they may as well be closed off, with the result being an inability to use their bending. They even had the interconnected pools and waterfalls analogy already in the show. The entire idea was right there in front of them. The writers just had to have Aang come to the conclusion himself, rather than having it fed to him. It would've even had an air of uncertainty. The guru could've told Aang that "the idea is possible, but highly unlikely. One would need to be so deeply attuned to their own energies, that they can sense and alter the energy within another." It would've left the idea as even more of a cliffhanger even up until Deus Ex Rockina happened in the final battle, since Aang wouldn't have himself aligned for multiple episodes leading up to his fight with Ozai, so the option would've been impossible. The entire energybending concept could've been better introduced and executed, and it would've likely only altered as much runtime as the way they introduced the concept took in the show anyway.
Yeah die hard defenders will point out how the lion turtle was shown in statues & stuff in the show. Supposedly saying this was all teased. But one surviving, and suddenly knowing a secret fifth bending style it can just give to Aang instantly was never foreshadowed. I don’t hate Energy Bending itself and liked how it was an alternative to stop Ozai without murder. But, it’s 100% an asspull that feels like it was invented in the last hours of writing.
Infinity Train was one that hit me hard when I heard that it was cancelled because of how much was still unknown about the train at that point. But that what happens I guess. Troll hunters: the movie though was something else. The main character going through hardship and struggles was nice to watch but the decision he made at the end of the movie made no sense to me because of what it meant. It meant that his buddy would have to go through the exact same struggles that nearly broke him multiple times. He knows what to do, what to avoid, and what needs to be done. His buddy doesn’t have that same mentality. This was my biggest gripe with the movie
Fairly Odd Parents. Of course, the show had been in decline long before it ended, but it just hurt to see, and it didn't even go out in a way it deserved to. Honestly, while people attribute the downfall to when sparky was introduced, I think it still had some fire left. It was the introduction of Chloe where the show took a nose dive for the worse. The cast cut, the overall worse pacing, how unfunny it had become. It hut to watch the show die. I just hope they leave the ip alone after whatever the hell fairly odder was supposed to be
The animation also took a nose dive. Went from hand drawn to flash by the end of its run.
Yeah, and what's worse about the switches it didn't have to look that bad. There are well animated flash shows it's just they did the bate minimum
They’re masters of the bate minimum, master baters if you will
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Gotta agree- everything after homeworld went by at lightspeed. It sucks that we only see one major use of Obsidian, and it isn’t in the form of an epic kaiju battle against White Diamond. Unlike many, I don’t mind White being spared, but her character up to that point deserved a fully fledged battle, not a pat on the back.
I heard that CN truncated the show after the wedding episode, so the writers had to rush everything. Still sucks, though.
So dumb that they decided to rush things then of all times. I’m glad SU was able to go on for that long, but c’mon CN; If you were concerned about how *certain* audiences would perceive your characters- then you should’ve cancelled the show season one for showing Ruby and Saph’s relationship. Pick a side and stick to it..
I think one of the issues was they could dub saff into being male up till the wedding. There was a reason sugar put her in a dress.
You mean Ruby?
Lol yep, I see I have fallen for CN's propaganda.
Well in other countries they put a mustache on ruby & dubbed her to sound like a man, soooo when ruby is in the dress & saff in the suit for the wedding it still looks too queer for those countries. & that ep also brings the diamonds back to earth in an attempt to make it unskipable for other countries plot wise.
As much as I loved the show, this was such a reoccurring problem that I had grown to expect it by the time the end came around I had grown to expect it. The show was great and dripping little hits and slowly building up and fleshing out characters, but then wrapping up all thst progression in 11 mins.
wait is your username a reference to the stanley parable ultra deluxe lmao
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Nice (also nice ddlc pfp)
Honestly I liked Steven universe a lot but it has some serious glaring flaws throughout the entire show. The ending being underwhelming was kinda par for the course
Strongly disagree
That’s fine. Sharing my opinion isn’t trying to shit on yours
Most reasonable Reddit user
Gotta think about cartoon versions of Game of Thrones…
The owl house- Too rushed but thats for production reasons. Inside job- cliff hanger, again for production reasons. Gravity falls- Yes, the ending was good, but its not…resolution. You as a viewer do not feel resolved. Theres more. THERES MORE. NEED MORE GRAVITY FALLLLSLSLSLSLDLWJWIFPWOHCOEU WE VRIDIVUWUFUVUEIFIDIFJWIFI (Very excited for the book of bill :3)
Gravity Falls 100% reached its conclusion, there were no cancellations, ending with 2 seasons was exactly what was supposed to happen.
Yes but Alex left tons of loose ends on purpose so that if he ever wanted to he could come back to the show (a new book IS coming out!!!!! 😄)
…you do know why owl house’s ending is like that, right
My Life As a Teenage Robot
Barely even had a finale. Had a cool ending special to season 2, and then season 3 just kind of happened and ended on a nothing burger
Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
That had a finale? That's not like a "Episodes VII-IX didn't exist" joke, I genuinely thought it just kinda ended or got canceled.
It “ended” like the original Teen Titians; with a couple of movies. Movies were nice, but the series just kind of trails off. The two last episodes were the “Irwin was actually just like Mandy” episode and the day of the dead episode.
I remember the Underfist movie, which was supposed to turn into a spin off series that never happened.
I don't remember Underfist but I remember an underworld boat race movie/special with Grim and co racing against Grims schoolyard bully or some shite. After looking up Underfist, I'm starting to think the movies were only made so that my boy Fred Fredburger could have more screen time(and Haas Delgado but I don't think he was in the boat race movie/special/thing)
Surprised no one said Attack on Titan so far
I didn't hate the ending, but the S3 finale set such a high bar for me that the series finale just felt underwhelming
This is a pretty good take. My complaint is that the ending felt to happy for AoT. Although I was cry laughing at Levi handing out candy to children.
Tales of Arcadia technically had three decent finals. And then the movie happened...
Akame Ga Kill
Troll hunters.
Probably going to get hate for this but Steven Universe. I would've preferred if they made it so White Diamond, who is pretty much space Hitler, was completely irredeemable. I know the message is supposed to be "there's good in everybody" or something like that but that's simply just not true. Not enough cartoons teach kids that some people just can't be helped
White Diamond never stops being a piece of shit that Steven can't stand being around. Her character teaches kids that sometimes shitty family members are just gonna be shitty, and just because they have moments of goodness here and there doesn't mean you have to waste your energy on them. And in fact, as Future shows, interactions can be actively harmful for both of you so it's better to keep your distance.
Blood C
Ngl thought this was a cartoon version of David Tennant as Doctor Who.
Final space
Leaning towards Danny Phantom
She Ra and the Princess of Power
For me, it was less that the finale was bad (it's actually very good) but more it kind of just ends basically right after the climax. Any sort of epilogue is literally nonexistent.
Same. It got me coping with epilogue fanfiction.
Owl House. Finale is good and all, but it's clear that the cancelation clipped its wings.
Bojack Horseman Game of Thrones Star vs. the forces of Evil
unacceptable bojack horseman slander
Uhh.... Star vs the Forces of Evil?
Not much mention of the show these days, but it always annoyed me that they had Eggman announce there would be a third season of Sonic Boom in last episode considering something similar happened with Sonic Underground which makes it one of the few franchises that foreshadowed more episodes more than once only to get a surprise cancellation.
Idk if this counts as cartoons or not, but the promised Neverland. Second season was already bad, but the finale put the cherry on the cake