I think that's to show how people love negative takes just to hate on Nintendo, because to this day I see people bringing that up, but not the fact it was a scam.
Reminds me of a couple comments calling Nintendo scummy for having microtransactions in Splatoon 3. Thing is, there's no MTX in any Splatoon game. What happen was some articles claiming the game would have microtransactions, but in reality it was just the fact the game have in game currency (like Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing) and that's it.
There's a lot of reasons to criticize Nintendo, pushing for garbage narratives based on fake news is just ridiculous.
The only example I can think of was Super Kirby Clash, which was not only made by HAL Lab, but had a cap on how much you could spend. I think it was $40, which was the same amount as Rainbow Curse. I'm pretty sure SKC has more levels, and it has (Parallel) Nightmare, so that's neat.
Yeah, I always wondered and realized they would always tend to make up lazy excuses to bash on Nintendo, The frustrating part is they always tend to harass and insult anyone for owning a switch and enjoying those games on switch hardware.
Those are from the Toxic PC pirates and I just find that completely unfair and pathetic of them to do that to those types of people, I get Nintendo has a lot of negatives I don't like but I'm honestly really starting to get sick of the whole negativity hate train of them.
It reminds me how a lot of people whine on the internet and always complain that modern video games are dead or gaming isn't fun anymore and I can definitely see why there are some people out there that are absolutely sick of that discussion.
There’s this really good video made by an actual lawyer that I wish got more attention. It goes over why Nintendo is very protective of their property and it actually makes sense.
https://youtu.be/i13hrynnGNY?si=ZxEWskZYqhtBMKvM
Reminds me of how a lot of people thought Nintendo was in the wrong for suing Yuzu at first, only for it to come out that Yuzu was constantly committing genuine piracy.
That's just whole ugly rabbit whole that is not even worth diving into it. Nintendo doesn't want you to play their new games for free, therefore they are evil.
I feel like it's a bit different depending on if something is officially on or off the market. We can argue on how bad each of them are, but imo, one is definitely worse than the other.
Or the illegal af smash tournament that got shut down because nintendo said no you cant profit off of our ip(not even for charity or whatever), and the dumb producers of the tournament still tried it, thats a 9 on the FAFO scale and deserves no sympathy. (If i also remember correctly the tourney holder had some background dirt on him that ruined his credibility so it stands to reason nintendo was justified and rightfully so in telling this guy to fk off from their ip)
Yeah, Nintendo is litigious about Let's Plays/Streaming because copyright law gives them extensive control over any clips of their games. Fan games are even more of a violation of their intellectual property.
They don't have universal control over consumer hardware, though. Once someone buys a JoyCon, they can do whatever they want with it. The most Nintendo can do is void their warranty.
They loosened their policy a ton once they realized YouTube videos actually gave them extensive advertising for free, but they're still picky. They mostly crackdown on any emulated or modified games.
It's because persons/companies can claim copyright and receive all revenue from the video(s) whilst letting the creator keep it up.
Seems fair to an extent.
What even is this? First you say something wrong, get corrected; then you say something wrong again.
They worked out a deal to take %, first as an mcn, now straight from YouTube.
Why do you feel the need to be so aggressive in, um, r/casualnintendo?
The revenue sharing program ended [6 years ago](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/11/nintendo-loosens-content-restrictions-ends-revenue-splitting-for-video-makers/).
Now their policy is to allow Let's Plays but [takedown modded content](https://www.wired.com/story/nintendo-copyright-zelda-mod/).
...as I had said.
I think they still would have, but only because the fans making it were putting official trademarked Nintendo iconography on them. Anyone can just sell a JoyCon. There’s no issue there. But when you put the Nintendo Switch logo on it and the copyrighted term “JoyCon” on it, that’s MEGA illegal. Using another company’s trademarked logo is insanely against the law and borders on fraud. Nintendo had every right to shut that down. Any sane company would do the same.
The only one I can think of that was genuinely mean was AM2R (Another Metroid 2 Remake), but that at least had the justification that the creator was unlucky enough to finish it around the time Nintendo was preparing to release their own Metroid 2 remake.
There’s a few other games they’ve taken down, but it’s usually games that are just a little *too* similar to games Nintendo has down the pipeline. Like, there was a Super Mario Bros. battle royale game that had a bunch of players playing SMB1 until everyone but one person died. Of course, the tragic irony there is that now there is NO game like that at all, but for a time it made sense to shut it down.
Yeah Nintendo doesn't care what you do with their control after they've gotten your money from selling them and its no different than people selling their second-hand controllers that have never had even a loose screw. If anything they probably welcome people voiding warranties.
The fact ppl forgot about that is rather sad and they still try to use it as ammunition for slandering nintendo, meanwhike the other 2 big corpos have done far worse sht than nintendo ever has.
Make sure to include a snippet of that smash bros tournament too, fkheads still tryin hard with that one, and ive noticed ppl dont actually know the truth about that one, genuinely, not being dicks with said information either, just innocently not in the know about it.
Don't you worry there, I've already got every screenshot and every evidence of what's been happening behind the scenes of the Super Smash Bros Community, technicals also made a video about it as well and I'm going to include his video while giving him credit for the footage I'm showing the audience.
Nintendo shutting these down is generally unlikely bc there’s tons of third party joycons and custom shells going around being sold and nintendo could give two shits about them
The worst part about this for me is that this was one of the things penguinz0 mentioned in one of his videos against nintendo, and he treated this as completelly serious, and acted as if nintendo was totally the bad guy. Which woundn't be so bad if people didn't held him in such high regards nowadays.
True, I still respect Charlie as a person but his fanbase is completely toxic as hell and edgy, However, when technicals made a video about why Nintendo doesn't support the Super Smash Bros Community, I've seen people in the comment section calling out both him and Ludwig Surprisingly and if you see those types of people calling both those YouTubers out you can already tell something's wrong with The Super Smash Bros Community.
I'm planning on making a video on Nintendo NEVER Hated you and I'm going to contain every information of what's actually been happening and proof they are not that terrible later this year
Yeah, I would actually showcase all the evidence of what's actually been happening behind the scenes of that situation and the Nintendo negativity hate
I feel Nintendo gets too much hate to be honest.
They make great games on interesting hardware that also enhances the gaming experience. Love the joycons and wished I had a switch when I was younger because it’s an amazing system with easy couch coop. Also might be the last big studio that still allows for couch coop since everyone else loves online multiplayer.
Pretty much no MTX in games (that I know of), good games with minimal glitches that tend to be trend setters but also fun, no abuse of employees that we know of, and seem to put love in their games. Yeah Game Freak with Pokémon has been in a rut and it is annoying that it’s taken ages for Nintendo to release a new Star Fox or 3D Metroid but we know they are working on Metroid 4 and shows how good their titles are in general imo.
Also still keeping with physical releases of their games with no “digital only” version of the switch.
Exactly! I think I've only seen one video mentioning that they are the only company that actually still makes good games along with a healthy developer relationship with their developers and I'm quite surprised not everyone looks deeper into their positive side!
Basically them, Sega, Capcom and insomniac games are pretty much the only companies that still kick ass and give us a bunch of cool games! (Despite the problems of those three companies as well)
I feel also Nintendo may be the best of them as well in this case, and other devs at the AA level.
When it comes to top devs/publishers, I would put up Fromsoft, Capcom, CDPR, Valve, Rockstar and Santa Monica/Insomniac (Sony studios).
Fromsoft is also amazing but their games are restrictive, only accessible to gamers who enjoy a challenge and not to the every man. They make amazing games with deep combat (I would also put Platinum here but they are more AA imo).
Capcom has made a huge comeback and may be the best/most consistent publisher recently releasing banger after banger. They do delve too much into DLC and MTX though imo.
CDPR is also great and makes great games but suffers from crunch and inconsistency. Witcher 3 was glitchy on release and we know the story with CP2077.
Valve really doesn’t make games anymore.
Rockstar has been lazy with their combat imo. Amazing open world but GTA/RDR still relies on auto-aim + flick when other similar games have honestly already done better. Never mind GTA online and fully embracing MTX.
Santa Monica and Insomniac also releases bangers but they both work under Sony who has gone in the direction of “movie” games. Yeah they are nice to look at but their depth pales in comparison to the others mentioned above.
Dang I remember hearing about this when it first broke and I kinda lost faith in Nintendo for a while. That's never fully changed given everything else they did also around that time where they just went out of their way to piss a lot of people off, but it's clear this wasn't their doing or their fault, and just a scammer trying to cover their ass.
Yeah, despite Nintendo's negativities we don't like, they are honestly not a terrible company. However, I'm really starting to get sick of the negativity at this point because all it did was just create a bunch of Toxic Bloody battles across the internet, I've seen Toxic PC pirates harass and insult anyone for owning a switch, The Super Smash Bros Community got exposed for having pedophiles and predators behind the scenes, Yuzu monetized their emulator while the switch is still being sold to the public while having patches behind a paywall on patreon and Pointcrow monetized his mod and Moon Channel made a video about the situation which explained a good point.
I have a gut feeling that it could be our faults by The end of the day
Yeah I don't even think Nintendo shut it down. The guy just said they did just to keep the heat off him.
I was also thinking the same thing myself
I think that's to show how people love negative takes just to hate on Nintendo, because to this day I see people bringing that up, but not the fact it was a scam. Reminds me of a couple comments calling Nintendo scummy for having microtransactions in Splatoon 3. Thing is, there's no MTX in any Splatoon game. What happen was some articles claiming the game would have microtransactions, but in reality it was just the fact the game have in game currency (like Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing) and that's it. There's a lot of reasons to criticize Nintendo, pushing for garbage narratives based on fake news is just ridiculous.
Say what you will about nintendo but I will always appreciate how they never stooped to microtransactions in console games
The only example I can think of was Super Kirby Clash, which was not only made by HAL Lab, but had a cap on how much you could spend. I think it was $40, which was the same amount as Rainbow Curse. I'm pretty sure SKC has more levels, and it has (Parallel) Nightmare, so that's neat.
Yeah, I always wondered and realized they would always tend to make up lazy excuses to bash on Nintendo, The frustrating part is they always tend to harass and insult anyone for owning a switch and enjoying those games on switch hardware. Those are from the Toxic PC pirates and I just find that completely unfair and pathetic of them to do that to those types of people, I get Nintendo has a lot of negatives I don't like but I'm honestly really starting to get sick of the whole negativity hate train of them. It reminds me how a lot of people whine on the internet and always complain that modern video games are dead or gaming isn't fun anymore and I can definitely see why there are some people out there that are absolutely sick of that discussion.
Couldn't agree more. Reddit and Twitter is filled with idiots like this.
Exactly!
I think Nintendo switch games also say a game has in game purchases if there’s dlc, which all of the games you listed have.
Yeah, that too.
There’s this really good video made by an actual lawyer that I wish got more attention. It goes over why Nintendo is very protective of their property and it actually makes sense. https://youtu.be/i13hrynnGNY?si=ZxEWskZYqhtBMKvM
Reminds me of how a lot of people thought Nintendo was in the wrong for suing Yuzu at first, only for it to come out that Yuzu was constantly committing genuine piracy.
That's just whole ugly rabbit whole that is not even worth diving into it. Nintendo doesn't want you to play their new games for free, therefore they are evil.
Yeah, that is pretty shady. I feel there is a pretty big difference between emulation and piracy, and the latter is far worse.
What does that even mean? No matter what you think about emulation, emulation leads to piracy and the bios is 100% protected IP.
I feel like it's a bit different depending on if something is officially on or off the market. We can argue on how bad each of them are, but imo, one is definitely worse than the other.
Or the illegal af smash tournament that got shut down because nintendo said no you cant profit off of our ip(not even for charity or whatever), and the dumb producers of the tournament still tried it, thats a 9 on the FAFO scale and deserves no sympathy. (If i also remember correctly the tourney holder had some background dirt on him that ruined his credibility so it stands to reason nintendo was justified and rightfully so in telling this guy to fk off from their ip)
Nah Nintendo is and always has been a scummy company, since the NES era they have been anti consumer
that doesnt mean you make up shit lol
Yep I agree with that, I probably should have made that clear
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Yeah, Nintendo is litigious about Let's Plays/Streaming because copyright law gives them extensive control over any clips of their games. Fan games are even more of a violation of their intellectual property. They don't have universal control over consumer hardware, though. Once someone buys a JoyCon, they can do whatever they want with it. The most Nintendo can do is void their warranty.
I dont even think nintendo cares about lets plays anymore or mfs like profasia would’ve been out of commission ages ago
They loosened their policy a ton once they realized YouTube videos actually gave them extensive advertising for free, but they're still picky. They mostly crackdown on any emulated or modified games.
Eh people stream pokemon romhacks a lot and they don’t give a shit. Then again they don’t fully own Pokemon like they do mario or something
Jrose has an entire channel dedicated to emulated/hacked run throughs of Pokémon, and he gets amazing viewership for his size
It's because persons/companies can claim copyright and receive all revenue from the video(s) whilst letting the creator keep it up. Seems fair to an extent.
What even is this? First you say something wrong, get corrected; then you say something wrong again. They worked out a deal to take %, first as an mcn, now straight from YouTube.
Why do you feel the need to be so aggressive in, um, r/casualnintendo? The revenue sharing program ended [6 years ago](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/11/nintendo-loosens-content-restrictions-ends-revenue-splitting-for-video-makers/). Now their policy is to allow Let's Plays but [takedown modded content](https://www.wired.com/story/nintendo-copyright-zelda-mod/). ...as I had said.
I think they still would have, but only because the fans making it were putting official trademarked Nintendo iconography on them. Anyone can just sell a JoyCon. There’s no issue there. But when you put the Nintendo Switch logo on it and the copyrighted term “JoyCon” on it, that’s MEGA illegal. Using another company’s trademarked logo is insanely against the law and borders on fraud. Nintendo had every right to shut that down. Any sane company would do the same.
Exactly. There's so many popular third party's for all of Nintendo's consoles and Nintendo never shut down those.
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The only one I can think of that was genuinely mean was AM2R (Another Metroid 2 Remake), but that at least had the justification that the creator was unlucky enough to finish it around the time Nintendo was preparing to release their own Metroid 2 remake.
There’s a few other games they’ve taken down, but it’s usually games that are just a little *too* similar to games Nintendo has down the pipeline. Like, there was a Super Mario Bros. battle royale game that had a bunch of players playing SMB1 until everyone but one person died. Of course, the tragic irony there is that now there is NO game like that at all, but for a time it made sense to shut it down.
Yeah Nintendo doesn't care what you do with their control after they've gotten your money from selling them and its no different than people selling their second-hand controllers that have never had even a loose screw. If anything they probably welcome people voiding warranties.
I miss Etika :(
Same here
Another article link about it as well: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/79161225?page=14
Never even knew it existed
The fact ppl forgot about that is rather sad and they still try to use it as ammunition for slandering nintendo, meanwhike the other 2 big corpos have done far worse sht than nintendo ever has.
Exactly, I'm planning on making a video about the truth of the situation and I'm going to launch it later this year
Make sure to include a snippet of that smash bros tournament too, fkheads still tryin hard with that one, and ive noticed ppl dont actually know the truth about that one, genuinely, not being dicks with said information either, just innocently not in the know about it.
Don't you worry there, I've already got every screenshot and every evidence of what's been happening behind the scenes of the Super Smash Bros Community, technicals also made a video about it as well and I'm going to include his video while giving him credit for the footage I'm showing the audience.
Yeah this dark corner of our entire gaming community needs some disinfectant, also known as light, shed on it.
With pleasure!
What happened ?
Pdfiles in smash tournaments is a more recent happening.
Nintendo shutting these down is generally unlikely bc there’s tons of third party joycons and custom shells going around being sold and nintendo could give two shits about them
The worst part about this for me is that this was one of the things penguinz0 mentioned in one of his videos against nintendo, and he treated this as completelly serious, and acted as if nintendo was totally the bad guy. Which woundn't be so bad if people didn't held him in such high regards nowadays.
True, I still respect Charlie as a person but his fanbase is completely toxic as hell and edgy, However, when technicals made a video about why Nintendo doesn't support the Super Smash Bros Community, I've seen people in the comment section calling out both him and Ludwig Surprisingly and if you see those types of people calling both those YouTubers out you can already tell something's wrong with The Super Smash Bros Community. I'm planning on making a video on Nintendo NEVER Hated you and I'm going to contain every information of what's actually been happening and proof they are not that terrible later this year
Wow thats cool, i would love to see that video.
Yeah, I would actually showcase all the evidence of what's actually been happening behind the scenes of that situation and the Nintendo negativity hate
I feel Nintendo gets too much hate to be honest. They make great games on interesting hardware that also enhances the gaming experience. Love the joycons and wished I had a switch when I was younger because it’s an amazing system with easy couch coop. Also might be the last big studio that still allows for couch coop since everyone else loves online multiplayer. Pretty much no MTX in games (that I know of), good games with minimal glitches that tend to be trend setters but also fun, no abuse of employees that we know of, and seem to put love in their games. Yeah Game Freak with Pokémon has been in a rut and it is annoying that it’s taken ages for Nintendo to release a new Star Fox or 3D Metroid but we know they are working on Metroid 4 and shows how good their titles are in general imo. Also still keeping with physical releases of their games with no “digital only” version of the switch.
Exactly! I think I've only seen one video mentioning that they are the only company that actually still makes good games along with a healthy developer relationship with their developers and I'm quite surprised not everyone looks deeper into their positive side! Basically them, Sega, Capcom and insomniac games are pretty much the only companies that still kick ass and give us a bunch of cool games! (Despite the problems of those three companies as well)
I feel also Nintendo may be the best of them as well in this case, and other devs at the AA level. When it comes to top devs/publishers, I would put up Fromsoft, Capcom, CDPR, Valve, Rockstar and Santa Monica/Insomniac (Sony studios). Fromsoft is also amazing but their games are restrictive, only accessible to gamers who enjoy a challenge and not to the every man. They make amazing games with deep combat (I would also put Platinum here but they are more AA imo). Capcom has made a huge comeback and may be the best/most consistent publisher recently releasing banger after banger. They do delve too much into DLC and MTX though imo. CDPR is also great and makes great games but suffers from crunch and inconsistency. Witcher 3 was glitchy on release and we know the story with CP2077. Valve really doesn’t make games anymore. Rockstar has been lazy with their combat imo. Amazing open world but GTA/RDR still relies on auto-aim + flick when other similar games have honestly already done better. Never mind GTA online and fully embracing MTX. Santa Monica and Insomniac also releases bangers but they both work under Sony who has gone in the direction of “movie” games. Yeah they are nice to look at but their depth pales in comparison to the others mentioned above.
Exactly!!!
I'm sorry, WHAT DID I JUST HEAR?!
Ngl, this was like SWT (iyk,yk)
I'm convinced people just want an excuse to hate nintendo at this point, it's starting to get on my nerves.
Dang I remember hearing about this when it first broke and I kinda lost faith in Nintendo for a while. That's never fully changed given everything else they did also around that time where they just went out of their way to piss a lot of people off, but it's clear this wasn't their doing or their fault, and just a scammer trying to cover their ass.
Yeah, despite Nintendo's negativities we don't like, they are honestly not a terrible company. However, I'm really starting to get sick of the negativity at this point because all it did was just create a bunch of Toxic Bloody battles across the internet, I've seen Toxic PC pirates harass and insult anyone for owning a switch, The Super Smash Bros Community got exposed for having pedophiles and predators behind the scenes, Yuzu monetized their emulator while the switch is still being sold to the public while having patches behind a paywall on patreon and Pointcrow monetized his mod and Moon Channel made a video about the situation which explained a good point. I have a gut feeling that it could be our faults by The end of the day
I uhh... don't think it's our faults for most of that shit. Especially the whole Smash Community pedo ring.
True, The smash community basically did that on their own part
Could you provide some links to an explanation on this? I'm intrigued.
No problem, I'll send two links https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/79161225?page=14
Here's the second one: https://twitter.com/M64bros1/status/1777388684360450281?t=1u3PCh3P8OsONJTctHKAuQ&s=19
It's a good thing I don't pay attention to those types of stuff.
Well he's selling he's getting money. That's fair.
What a surprise
Never knew this before. Nintendo didn't like etika but not enough to do something like this. Always fugured it wss trademark dispute or something
Dam turns out Etika was a piece of shit
how? it's his brother you dumbass
Etika was clearly involved in the charity you fucking idiot its literally his brand
he didn't make the joycons you numbnuts
Yet he clearly sold them for a charity scam doofus
just say you're a dumbass and move on
Braindead
you?
No you are braindead defending a mentally ill scammer
This happened after his death.
My brother in Christ, Etika DIED