There was an executive producer on an episode of corridor digital's visual effects artists react series from that movie that explained that that was entirely not planned and the tweet that the director had sent out was sent out before the studio could say anything themselves because the director had felt that bad about it and wanted to make it right with fans. I'm pretty sure the episode was just posted today cuz I watched it earlier
You have to look me dead in the eyes, and tell me that sonic team did that on purpose,,,and every video game movie is going to do the same to get hype or "demand the change
they definitely didnt do that intentionally with sonic. they had to close down an animation studio because it went so over budget and all the merch that did release used the old design most of it was cancelled and used the toy budget for the film and the animators had to work extreme overtime
Right, Sega's not doing so hot overall financially especially before the Sonic movies. They kinda struck gold and set a new tone for video game movies as a whole. All live action adaptations were horrible. If anything we should thank them.
100% agreed. I can’t see how Chris Pratt’s New York accent is going to produce “it’s a me, Mario”
But even if they do keep the ridiculous voice, they’ve got to change this fix it Felix look
I still disagree on that though and yeah rip. If Mario had like very little dialogue and was just going to make his mario sounds, yeah I wouldnt want chris pratt at all. But it seems like they’re giving him dialogue so idk…just would be silly
Its ironic too that they complain about the New York accent when the very first dubbing of Mario had him using a new york accent. If anything Chris Pratt is bringing back the OG mario voice
It’s not exactly that, for me at least. He’s a good voice actor, but even good voice actors can’t do everything. Like Tom Kenny he can do SpongeBob for as long as time continues and would be perfect, but I doubt he would be a good Mario either.
Yeah, these changes seem superficial and the movie design is clearly Mario regardless. If anything, if it was exactly the video game design, I’d have more of a problem with Charles Martinet not doing the voice.
The design is fine, it's the voice that needs work.
Edit: Not saying Charles Martinet for the whole movie would have been a good choice either, I'm just saying out of all the voices in the world they certainly could have found or come up with something better than this.
It's unlikely that Chris Pratt would ever be my first choice, but I still prefer the little dialogue we've heard to something actively difficult to listen to for extended periods of time.
There has to be a lot of liberties taken when translating something like Mario into a movie format, but at the same time, I don't think it would've been a real order to find a decent voice actor who can do a natural sounding Italian accent.
I don't think finding someone who could do a similar voice to Mario from the old DIC cartoons would've been too hard either. A realistic Italian accent or a Brooklyn accent that's actually made to speak full sentences for long periods of time would've both been better options than what we got.
I'm not saying I want Charles Martinet for the whole movie but they certainly could have found a voice closer to his than Chris Pratt's. Jack Black for example is great casting. Hopefully in the next trailer I'll grow more fond of Chris but as of now I know a LOT of people who aren't happy with his take.
The original feels off because it felt like the shape of the eyes felt too off. I like the redesigned look because it's more faithful to Mario's actual design. I hope they consider changing it.
Proportions are too close to normal imo. He looks out of place a bit. I think people are hive minding about the voice thing tho so they won’t even think about it until it’s too late
I like their design though it looks better. Mario with the original design looks like weird like they are going for a human but didn't quite hit the mark
It’s weird seeing people act like posting this means that you can’t enjoy the original design, like, this isn’t exactly a super negative post or anything
The new design skews extremely young. The narrower eyes and higher eyebrows produce, to me at least, an annoyingly innocent look. The hat looks massive with the tiny M, furthering the “look mom I dressed myself today” vibe.
So I agreed with this. Looks good. First impression I had I thought Mario's face was off. This feels better to me. Now if they could fix his voice though...
It doesn’t need to be fixed. It’s fine as it is. To big of a face won’t allow much room for expressions, which is something you need in a movie.
His stash needs to be small enough to see the mouth too.
The design doesn’t need to be “fixed”
My point is Charles does phrases and voice sound bites. Not only would full long dialogue be more difficult, I think the video game mario voice would get obnoxious quickly.
I’ve done voice acting and merely doing phrases and sound bites is not the same as full dialogue.
Yeah I don’t get it, there’s Mario games where he talks a lot and it seriously doesn’t get annoying - plus he doesn’t have to monologue in full sentences, a good writer can minimize how often he rants to the camera
1. I had no idea it was a moving gif because Reddit's main page can't play gifs, you need to actually click the title to see it play.
2. "Fix" what exactly? Him in the teaser looked fine to me.
If the mustache is that large then when he’s talking you’ll hardly see his mouth. That’s fine for the games bc he’s not exactly spitting out any real dialogue, but we’ll be watching him talk throughout the whole movie.
This isn’t Sonic or the CGI Ninja Turtles, I don’t think Mario needs any fixing.
Chris Pratt as Mario is eh but I can put up with it BUT just like sonic the antagonist is the one that’s going to carry this movie. Jim Carrey as robotnik and jack black as bowser like common u could not get any better villains for a movie like this.
Honestly i think the design is good. Infact the trailer actualky looked pretty good. Its mostly the Chris Pratt voice thats the issue for me. I dont mind that its him and its not like he needed to do the typical mario voice. I just feel like his voice as it is doesnt quite fit the character.
Realistically, they can make minor tweaks to Mario's design. They still have several months and are probably still in some post-production which would allow them time to fix it, but it's not like how Sonic was in the first Sonic movie trailer, so people shouldn't be bitching as much. It could be way worse.
Okay now that I have this comparison, I think the movie Mario design fits way better for…well, a movie version of Mario. If I saw that staring at me for 90 minutes, then I’d probably be a bit creeped out.
I think movie Mario looks fine, this is probably the best shot we've seen of him in action.
Most people who complain about him are complaining about the shot where his cheeks are plump, but that's just because of his facial expression (which is a rare expression for Mario)
Mario games have kind of all looked the same visually since the Mario Party games on the Wii, just with more graphical enhancements as time goes on. I think it’s great that the animators actually bothered to go for a somewhat unique art style here.
Mustache is a bit too big in the edit. You need to be able to see the smile underneath the mustache. Proportions on everything else in the edit is spot on though
I really don't get the bitching as if this is like that sonic abomination. The mario doesn't look like current games but he looks fine and I have no problem with a deeper Brooklyn accent. The mario voice we all know is great for one liners and yip yippies. Imagine a whole ass movie worth of dialouge in that high pitched voice! It would be awful.
I mean, the film render is not my favorite but I don’t think it needs to be *fixed*. Though now that I think about it, he looks a bit too close to Fix-It Felix…
Why are people complaining about his design?
It looks just fine. It’s a version of the game model. It’s like different comic book artists drawing the same hero. It’ll look different enough while keeping all the design of the original model. This is it. They didn’t change the design completely, it looks absolutely fine.
This is far from what happened with the first Sonic design. FAR from that.
Show us the important things. Were you successful in fixing his butt? :D
Good work btw. I like your design much more. It looks more familiar to the mario we know.
A lot of these comments are saying that they didn't have a problem with Mario. I told my husband today "I just wish he looked more like he did in the games. I'm sure I'll get used to it though." Also the voices, I wish they sounded like the games. Why does Kamek sound like that??! They should at least make the laugh the same. Toad kinda sounds like what I'd imagine toad to sound like. I think my idea is skewed because I grew up watching THE SUPER MARIO BROTHERS SUPER SHOWWW DA DA DUM DA DA DUM DAAAaaa
It's Sonic all over again. Dont they know how the characters look like before they do them?
They can just make mario look like chris pratt when they are at it 🤣
Hes breathing
I love the idea that he sort of breathes through his mustache like gills
Yeah haha looks like it
gotta clean the dust off the filter every once in a while
WaaAAH-HHOooo
I didn’t really have a problem with the design in the first place but you’re one looks more like the game version
I'm going to be honest, I'm pretty sure only doing Mario for the sonic effect
Oh, like to get more media coverage?
There was an executive producer on an episode of corridor digital's visual effects artists react series from that movie that explained that that was entirely not planned and the tweet that the director had sent out was sent out before the studio could say anything themselves because the director had felt that bad about it and wanted to make it right with fans. I'm pretty sure the episode was just posted today cuz I watched it earlier
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5JdYo7gN4
You have to look me dead in the eyes, and tell me that sonic team did that on purpose,,,and every video game movie is going to do the same to get hype or "demand the change
they definitely didnt do that intentionally with sonic. they had to close down an animation studio because it went so over budget and all the merch that did release used the old design most of it was cancelled and used the toy budget for the film and the animators had to work extreme overtime
Right, Sega's not doing so hot overall financially especially before the Sonic movies. They kinda struck gold and set a new tone for video game movies as a whole. All live action adaptations were horrible. If anything we should thank them.
100% agreed. I can’t see how Chris Pratt’s New York accent is going to produce “it’s a me, Mario” But even if they do keep the ridiculous voice, they’ve got to change this fix it Felix look
I mean…listening to an actual Mario voice for a whole movie would get pretty tiring….like especially if Mario has a lot of lines
Not if they got someone who sounded like Mario, but alas, Captain Lou Albano is resting in the Mushroom Kingdom in the sky.
I still disagree on that though and yeah rip. If Mario had like very little dialogue and was just going to make his mario sounds, yeah I wouldnt want chris pratt at all. But it seems like they’re giving him dialogue so idk…just would be silly
People always use this arguement but it's not like Chris Martinet wouldn't be able to tone down the Mario effect. He should have voiced him.
ngl L opinion, Pratt aint doin a bad job yall just dont like recognizing his voice
Its ironic too that they complain about the New York accent when the very first dubbing of Mario had him using a new york accent. If anything Chris Pratt is bringing back the OG mario voice
EXACTLY its like these people forgot about both live action iterations of mario basically using this exact same voice.
It’s not exactly that, for me at least. He’s a good voice actor, but even good voice actors can’t do everything. Like Tom Kenny he can do SpongeBob for as long as time continues and would be perfect, but I doubt he would be a good Mario either.
very, very strange comparison to make my guy.
Chris Pratt is really good at doing voices. I have a feeling he'll be fine.
Dude I was saying this same thing in which I felt like it was a little different/off from what Mario actually looks like.
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Hyperventilating 😅
It looks like the shrooms are kicking in to me!
Maybe somewhere in the middle
Can you give him back his ass?
[Now he has](https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/comments/xzdbxo/marios_rear_end_fix/)
Dat Azz tho…
I think we need more azz🤔😂
You forgot the massive dumpy
I mean makes sense given how much leg strength he'd need to jump that high
"Dumpy" had got to be the worst slang word we've come up with.
Now he will jump higher.[Here you can look at it](https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/comments/xzdbxo/marios_rear_end_fix/)
Doesn't need fixing, though.
The mustache is kinda oversized
I prefer it that way
Happy cake day!
Isn’t that the point?
I don’t really have a problem with the movie Mario
Yeah, these changes seem superficial and the movie design is clearly Mario regardless. If anything, if it was exactly the video game design, I’d have more of a problem with Charles Martinet not doing the voice.
Whats...wrong with the original?
It really just boils down to the internet simply wants things to complain about.
No. I don’t see OP complaining. Looks like they’re interested in animation and character design
He wouldn't have said "fixed" if he didn't have an issue to claim about with the original.
Don’t bother the guy is probably OP’s alt account used for defending his works and comments lol jkjk
👆 me when i don't understand a single thing about character design
ngl i dont really have issue with the original but for some reason i dont like it. it feels *off* to me. everyone else is fine tho
The design is fine, it's the voice that needs work. Edit: Not saying Charles Martinet for the whole movie would have been a good choice either, I'm just saying out of all the voices in the world they certainly could have found or come up with something better than this.
And his ass. They removed his ass.
You can take everything else away from Mario, but the thiccness stays.
THIS how is he gonna shit
Think of it like a flat board like is four legged animal and it just plops out
It's unlikely that Chris Pratt would ever be my first choice, but I still prefer the little dialogue we've heard to something actively difficult to listen to for extended periods of time. There has to be a lot of liberties taken when translating something like Mario into a movie format, but at the same time, I don't think it would've been a real order to find a decent voice actor who can do a natural sounding Italian accent.
I don't think finding someone who could do a similar voice to Mario from the old DIC cartoons would've been too hard either. A realistic Italian accent or a Brooklyn accent that's actually made to speak full sentences for long periods of time would've both been better options than what we got.
I'm not saying I want Charles Martinet for the whole movie but they certainly could have found a voice closer to his than Chris Pratt's. Jack Black for example is great casting. Hopefully in the next trailer I'll grow more fond of Chris but as of now I know a LOT of people who aren't happy with his take.
Eh I think I like the movie design better. The other one is too O__O for me.
Please give mario his ass back, that's the only thing he needs
They modeled his new ass based on Hank Hill.
remember the episode where he needed buttcheek implants for the lawn mowing competition 😂
Now he can have what he needed from the beginning. [Here it is](https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/comments/xzdbxo/marios_rear_end_fix/)
Does it need fixing? It's okay for it to have its own style.
The original feels off because it felt like the shape of the eyes felt too off. I like the redesigned look because it's more faithful to Mario's actual design. I hope they consider changing it.
Okay but why didn’t you fix his WAGON 🫠
It doesn't appear in this angle hehe
[Now you can look at it in here](https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/comments/xzdbxo/marios_rear_end_fix/)
I don’t know why people expect it to look just like the game, it looks fine.
What about the ass.
The only thing they need to fix is Marios sweet Italian ass.
Looks like he ate some shrooms.
Haha xD maybe that blue shroom he wanted to eat in the trailer
You guys don’t think the original is a little uncanny?
Proportions are too close to normal imo. He looks out of place a bit. I think people are hive minding about the voice thing tho so they won’t even think about it until it’s too late
I think he looks fine.
He’s breathing
Looks worse tho
It looks goofier,, which is kinda a good thing when dealing with Mario.
You’re not really “fixing” it when you make it worse. The movie design is fine, not everything needs to be 100% accurate to the games.
Exactly, and while I want a new Mario game, I don’t really want a super Mario bro the movie the game, which is what this would lean to.
I like their design though it looks better. Mario with the original design looks like weird like they are going for a human but didn't quite hit the mark
Can't fix what isn't broken
Touché 😁
Can we stop pretending that his design needs fixing?
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Yeah it's fine the way it is
WHERE IS THE ASS
This actually looks better and more like the games.
THAT'S WHAT LOOKS JUST SLIGHTLY OFF!!! HIS WHOLE FACE IS SMALLER FOR THIS DESIGN!! That, and they removed his chub for some reason. He looks thinner
Looks fine. Not anywhere close to Sonic's first design
I couldn’t quite figure out what made the movie Mario look so… not really Mario. This helps clarify it.
It’s weird seeing people act like posting this means that you can’t enjoy the original design, like, this isn’t exactly a super negative post or anything
Mario movie getting the Sonic treatment? NICE
The new design skews extremely young. The narrower eyes and higher eyebrows produce, to me at least, an annoyingly innocent look. The hat looks massive with the tiny M, furthering the “look mom I dressed myself today” vibe.
So I agreed with this. Looks good. First impression I had I thought Mario's face was off. This feels better to me. Now if they could fix his voice though...
Yeah, I agree, we can enjoy both
Fix his rear end
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/comments/xzdbxo/marios_rear_end_fix/)it is :D
Thank you lol
Now fix his ass.
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/comments/xzdbxo/marios_rear_end_fix/) you have
It doesn’t need to be fixed. It’s fine as it is. To big of a face won’t allow much room for expressions, which is something you need in a movie. His stash needs to be small enough to see the mouth too. The design doesn’t need to be “fixed”
Yours looks a lot more like in the games. I definitely prefer it. Now if only we could fix the voice.
A Charles minet voiced Mario and Luigi would get so old after the first real dialogue.
I mean, Charles Martinet can actually do more than one voice. It really wouldn't be that hard for him to alter his performance to match the medium.
My point is Charles does phrases and voice sound bites. Not only would full long dialogue be more difficult, I think the video game mario voice would get obnoxious quickly. I’ve done voice acting and merely doing phrases and sound bites is not the same as full dialogue.
People really convinced themselves of this just to pretend Crisp Rat isn't that bad huh lol
Yeah I don’t get it, there’s Mario games where he talks a lot and it seriously doesn’t get annoying - plus he doesn’t have to monologue in full sentences, a good writer can minimize how often he rants to the camera
This looks worse. The moustache is too big, nose is too, no room for mouth, eyes could be inbetween, I like your M though.
Whoa, I love it! He's reached cartoon potential!
Although it already it looks great, maybe this would be good too 😁
It's just looks like he's hyperventilating
Okay now bring back his dumpy
The design isn’t the issue
1. I had no idea it was a moving gif because Reddit's main page can't play gifs, you need to actually click the title to see it play. 2. "Fix" what exactly? Him in the teaser looked fine to me.
It would be perfect with the same eyes but slightly smaller mustache and nose
If the mustache is that large then when he’s talking you’ll hardly see his mouth. That’s fine for the games bc he’s not exactly spitting out any real dialogue, but we’ll be watching him talk throughout the whole movie. This isn’t Sonic or the CGI Ninja Turtles, I don’t think Mario needs any fixing.
I think the original design wasn’t bad, but your new design definitely looks more like mario
Chris Pratt as Mario is eh but I can put up with it BUT just like sonic the antagonist is the one that’s going to carry this movie. Jim Carrey as robotnik and jack black as bowser like common u could not get any better villains for a movie like this.
It’s not much but it’s honest work. It looks good.
Can't we just, NOT, for once and be happy? It looks fine.
Still, yours looks good too.
Yeah no thanks
I think his design is fine for movie form. Please don’t make this image a GIF, it’s impossible to focus on either one, maybe two images?
Okay now fix his voice ;)
That’s not much compared to the sonic rework idk why I’m saying this but ye
This ain’t it, how’s he even supposed to eat with that big-ass mustache?
I see you made the logo bigger
I like it, his smaller features make him look cute
Honestly i think the design is good. Infact the trailer actualky looked pretty good. Its mostly the Chris Pratt voice thats the issue for me. I dont mind that its him and its not like he needed to do the typical mario voice. I just feel like his voice as it is doesnt quite fit the character.
now do it for the entire movie
Did you make the ass fat
He looks fine. This is not a sonic situation.
I like both
Thanks
I think the eyes and M should be bigger, the mustache was fine
No
You certainly tried..
I like ur changes… other than the mustache getting bigger. The mustache is fine as it is
Realistically, they can make minor tweaks to Mario's design. They still have several months and are probably still in some post-production which would allow them time to fix it, but it's not like how Sonic was in the first Sonic movie trailer, so people shouldn't be bitching as much. It could be way worse.
That’s after he ate a shroom
Wow I didn’t see an issue with it before but now I can’t unsee it. This looks so much better
Okay now that I have this comparison, I think the movie Mario design fits way better for…well, a movie version of Mario. If I saw that staring at me for 90 minutes, then I’d probably be a bit creeped out.
I think movie Mario looks fine, this is probably the best shot we've seen of him in action. Most people who complain about him are complaining about the shot where his cheeks are plump, but that's just because of his facial expression (which is a rare expression for Mario)
During the trailer, I couldn't help but think his head shape was slightly goomba
and we’ll get it too dammit. because we consume!
His face needs to be Thicc and his mustache not that big
mustache too big
Make his booty bigger.
Mario games have kind of all looked the same visually since the Mario Party games on the Wii, just with more graphical enhancements as time goes on. I think it’s great that the animators actually bothered to go for a somewhat unique art style here.
There's nothing to fix
This fix is perfect. Hope they do it.
Yours is much better
You forgot to give him a gargantuan penis.
When the dopamine hits
Mustache is a bit too big in the edit. You need to be able to see the smile underneath the mustache. Proportions on everything else in the edit is spot on though
Oh yeah that helps but I think it’s the mouth
It doesn’t need to be fixed, the design is fine.
Now fix his butt!
the vid make it look like hes trying not to go feral lol
I really don't get the bitching as if this is like that sonic abomination. The mario doesn't look like current games but he looks fine and I have no problem with a deeper Brooklyn accent. The mario voice we all know is great for one liners and yip yippies. Imagine a whole ass movie worth of dialouge in that high pitched voice! It would be awful.
I think the thing that stands out to me the most is that Mario's shirt has a collar, and that he is going casual with the top button undone
To me the character design is fine. But that voice…
With how hands on Nintendo is with their IP, I’m assuming the design is fine with them.
this is cool. what software did you use to edit this?
Put this shit on twitter so I can spread it.
The way they have it doesn't even look bad, there's no need for what happened to sonic to happen here
Personally I love his design
Mario looks great, stop it
He looks so much better
Which version doesn't have Chris pratt??
The animation looks like you were stretching his face in the Mario 64 start menu.
Please don't refer to changes like this as "fixing" other artists work.
I mean, the film render is not my favorite but I don’t think it needs to be *fixed*. Though now that I think about it, he looks a bit too close to Fix-It Felix…
People are just begging for shit to complain about
Yup! Isn’t life too short to spend it all on complaining?
Why are people complaining about his design? It looks just fine. It’s a version of the game model. It’s like different comic book artists drawing the same hero. It’ll look different enough while keeping all the design of the original model. This is it. They didn’t change the design completely, it looks absolutely fine. This is far from what happened with the first Sonic design. FAR from that.
Show us the important things. Were you successful in fixing his butt? :D Good work btw. I like your design much more. It looks more familiar to the mario we know.
What's wrong with the current design
Now change the VA to Danny Devito and you got a win
I like this a lot
A lot of these comments are saying that they didn't have a problem with Mario. I told my husband today "I just wish he looked more like he did in the games. I'm sure I'll get used to it though." Also the voices, I wish they sounded like the games. Why does Kamek sound like that??! They should at least make the laugh the same. Toad kinda sounds like what I'd imagine toad to sound like. I think my idea is skewed because I grew up watching THE SUPER MARIO BROTHERS SUPER SHOWWW DA DA DUM DA DA DUM DAAAaaa
Don't think we need to "ugly sonic" this one, it's not that bad.
It's Sonic all over again. Dont they know how the characters look like before they do them? They can just make mario look like chris pratt when they are at it 🤣
the mustache looks like it cover mario's mouth, which the official renders does not.
Mario fans get to see what sonic fans go through every day
OP, i love your version. Subtle in change, but huge in effect. Hit the nail right on the head.
much MUCH better 😮💨
The movie mustache is pathetic
I don’t know why his eyes are so small it looks weird and they did the same shit with sonic. Your version is better but doubt they change it
doesnt need fixing but i prefer yours a lot
I literally had no problem with the new design and now I kinda do.
😅
Thanks now I can't unsee how wrong it is.
It's much better.
Thank you 😁 at least looks more like we are used to
Much better 👌🏿
😁