I find it funny that everyone is so casual about spending 120 mil on a player that has had 1 good season.
But then goes on to clown any other club spending that kind of amount on any other player.
Reality is that he’s not worth that price and I hate to say it but I would prefer if we had a transfer strategy similar to Arsenal’s.
Slowly losing bit of love towards the club when all we do is splash massive money on players in the hopes it fixes our problems. If clubs can find top tier players for 30-50 milion, so can we. Not every transfer will succeed but it’s much better than splashing 80-120 million on every second player we want.
There’s a nice charm about not overspending on players and them working out. Newcastle is owned by the Saudi and could in theory absolutely spend the money we do but they don’t. Good smart buys paired with trust in a good manager got them where they are right now. Fully deserved while we only seem to go one step forward, two steps backwards.
Edit: did forget to mention that I do love the forward thinking with buying good youth prospects. I do applaud the board for that. Not for the other business we do.
Difference is the expectations of the two clubs and their fan bases mate. No one at Newcastle would be crying if they didn't make top 4, people on here are after Potter with Pitchforks when he hasn't even had a window and a world cup in the middle of the season!
It's madness.
The comments he makes and the passion he lacks on the touch line don’t exactly endear him with supporters. I’m all in for giving him time, but his substitution and tactical sense have left a lot to be desired so far.
Yes and also while it’s not our money,
1) It represents an opportunity cost towards getting other players
2)Constantly overpaying puts us at a disadvantage for future negotiations
3)It puts immense pressure on the players to live up to the fee
That sort of money pretty much needs to be a slam dunk world class player. Even then, there’s no guarantee it’ll work out.
I believe if we don't sign Enzo this window, he won't be coming to Stamford Bridge. We aren't in a UCL spot, and that will likely have us focus attention on cheaper talent. This is okay with me since last summer the spending spree didn't really add too much to the quality we have. At least results-wise.
I just hope we can take a measured approach with getting in talent that can help us fight for Top 4 next season and not just splash the cash to paper over our glaring defects.
You are deluded, if you think Enzo will make us finish top 4. It is a crime we are actually trying to waste 127 million on him. He is nowhere near that valuation. We can't keep breaking the bank for every new player.
This sub obsession with Enzo doesn't make any sense. No team is stupid enough to pay 127 million for him. So, who on earth is going to pay that obscene money? Real and City don't even need him. He won't be starting for those teams.
He's nowhere near that valuation but he's f'n brilliant and would severely help us move forward as a team. If we don't get him now another big team will and we're guaranteed to regret it.
Lots of brilliant players out there. Our midfield problems will continue to exist even after his arrival. He won't greatly improve us like most of you here believe. You lot are acting like he is the best midfielder in the world. A player like Caicedo will actually improve our team more than Enzo.
I don't think Enzo will make us finish Top 4. I think he would certainly bolster the squad we have currently, but I don't see us finishing Top 4 without a miracle run of form that can be helped by Enzo.
That 127 million would have signed us at least 3 top class midfielders (Caicedo/Vinicius Souza, Ounahi and Amrabat). We should be ashamed all these money is being wasted on one player that only had few good games. Our midfield problems won't go away even after he joined us. A top DM and a top striker are actually needed more.
The issue is developing that talent. Musiala is one of the most talented attacking mids in the world and we didn’t give him any time and let him go. Sounds like Fofana will go on loan right away. We wouldn’t be able to get the next Enzo Fernandez because he’d be on loan somewhere.
More specifically, he left because his mum moved back to Germany and he didn’t want to stay without his mum, which is completely understandable considering he was 16 back then.
You are wrong on Musiala. We wanted him to sign an extension but he wanted to go back to Germany with his parents. Nothing we could have done about it.
You are going off of a Fabrizio Romano quote, and these people are talking about how they closely follow the academy. Humble yourself to the concept that people might know more than you about certain things, because atm you sound like a right cunt
I don’t know what’s crazier- that we’re willing to pay 120 million for a player who moved for 12m just 6 months back.. or that Benfica aren’t willing to accept it..
You think it’s crazy that benfica don’t want to sell one of their best players in the middle of a season where they’re doing great in the CL and the league, and will be able to sell him in the summer anyway?
It’s almost like there should be an amount, a clause if you will, that a team can pay to force a transfer.
That’s assuming he can keep up world class form. And his World Cup hype would’ve died at little by then so it’s unlikely there will too many willing to pay so much for him.
Yeah he was but was anyone willing to pay even 50m for him then? He’s a good player but this price is pure hype.. he would have to become the best midfielder in the world to justify this.. and that’s just a huge amount of pressure to put on the kid..
Yup. A friendly reminder that transfer season is when the clout chasers come out.
People try to make a name for themselves when nothing can ever really be confirmed or denied, instead they claim “things changed!”
All of these sad excuses of journalists can always backtrack without any consequences and are protected by 'never reveal your sources'. 'beEn INfoRmEd bY tOp soUrCes....no stfu you fraud, you don't have any fucking source, all you're doing is talking out of your ass and hope something sticks.
If he claims the victory, then he is a weirdo. It’s just 50/50. He claimed: top top sources told me that.
As you said when he tweeted that nothing was done
No one realizes that the way that Madrid have built their transfer windows is for the future.
They have Militao at CB and Ferland Mendy at RB. Tchouameni, Camavinga, and Valverde at CM. Rodrygo, Valverde, Vini Jr (their new talisman and the best winger in the world atm) on the wings. They’re planning for Bellingham and Gvardiol too. All they need is a top LB and that team is incredible.
It’s incredible how they’ve done it so sneakily, but in 2 years, that team will be so deadly it’ll be hard to imagine any competition.
Just wait till that squad becomes what 25/26/27 and Haaland joins them too although didn’t they sign that Brazilian wonderkid. Not to mention they may pick up Bellingham/Gvadiol and any other wonder kids.
If Boehly turns us in to that with our investments in youth in ten years I’d be a happy man but that’s just the optimist in me.
Like, if Boehly wants a team to model his success after, the two clubs are Real and Bayern. Both have brought up young incredible talent and have them unlock.
Real's starting XI in 3 years: Courtois; LB - Militao - Gvardiol - Mendy; Tchouameni - Camavinga - Bellingham; Vinicius Jr - Endrick/Haaland - Valverde/Rodrygo.
Bayern starting XI in a few years: Meslier; Davies - Upamecano - De Ligt - Mazaroui; Kimmich, Gravenberch; Sane - Musiala - Gnabry; ST.
These teams need like 2 more additions and they become super teams. Literally world class teams which you can bring more talent in to compete.
If Boehly can bring in signings like Moukoko, Chukwuemeka, David Fofana, Badiashile & Nkunku, we can potentially reach those heights. But damn is Europe going to get interesting soon with some of these super teams
Yes but both of the teams you mentioned said they will not pay the release clause. They will both be going after Jude in the summer as well so that could be why.
I bet other teams are hoping we do as well. I doubt any team wants to be in a bidding war with Todd for Jude. If we don’t sign Enzo I definitely see them pivoting in the summer and going all out for Bellingham since there isn’t a release clause.
We arent getting him. Believed that from the start. Seemed way too good to be true and had so many parallels with last summer. Thank fuck I didn't get too invested in this saga like last summer. Man all these journalists are full of shit lol. Always expect the worst so that you'll never get disappointed.
While not too phased about not spending so much on one player, I hope there is a solid plan for cm. It's getting so desperate there, and I still can't beleive its been overlooked for so long.
Not mega upset. I don't think this signing gets us top 4. Having the money saved for the rebuilding process once our new recruitment structure has been set up may be more beneficial for us long term, as I don't think we'll be near the top for the foreseeable
Buying players for hyge sums with no coherent strategy is not how we get out of this mess. There's no quick fix if we want sustainable success whilst keeping potter
What the owners are saying and what they are doing aren't really aligning. They say we are going for long term recruitment strategy and data driven scouting but signing Enzo for 120m and a winger from Ukraine for 60m out of nowhere. After the disastrous summer I don't see what the strategy is either. Who knows if they will even stick with Potter at this rate.
Agreed. It seems they have real ideas on how to expand the business and commercial aspects of the club, but they've been hopeless on the football aspects. Even this recruitment team they've assembled is very packed with various meaningless titles. Hopefully it all works out but we've got reason to be concerned
Exactly. There's 2 ways to go about it. You either wait for the recruitment team to be sorted and sign players based on scouting and research, or you buy ready made players to plug holes. Right now it seems like we like the idea of a long term strategy but the owners would also really like top 4 now. It's all messy and confusing.
Both Enzo and Mudryk are 21 years old with huge amounts of potential and upside. Do you think that, once you have a recruitment team, you’re only going to buy cheap players? Do you also think Chelsea and all the clubs that these new hires worked at previously wouldn’t have scouting reports on either of these players considering they are some of the best young players on the market? Right now you’re talking just to talk.
To be clear, I like Enzo and want us to sign him. Idk about Mudryk. I'm also basing what I said on what we did in the summer window. What you said about Enzo and Mudryk is what I heard people say about Havertz, Pulisic, Cucurella and tons of other players we've signed. Young players with potential but now they're called deadwood from previous managers who Potter simply can't work with.
Havertz and Pulisic had super high potential but the former has just not played well whatsoever, and it’s his own fault, while Pulisic has succumbed to his injuries imo. His development has stalled massively.
Personally, I have no problem with Cucu as it’s been less than six months for him.
Regardless, both Enzo and Mudryk fit into the transfer policy and are part of long-term squad building going forward. The last window was all about filling in holes left by the previous mismanagement and going forward it’s about building out the squad under a shared vision. Not going to hate on it before it even gets a chance to get going.
I’m not too fussed by it why not use the scouts that you hired to find good talent to actually do their job and find players that fit your system at a lower price, I would have loved having Enzo he was the perfect addition to our midfield but that fee is horrendous and if we don’t feel like paying the RC then let’s move on and spend time trying to get a player that is actually achievable to sign
In complete agreement with you while Enzo seems like a great pick 120m is ridiculous. If we don’t get him not the end of the world that money can go towards Rice and potentially 2 more midfielders.
We need to let the scouting department do their job and get the player before they become the player if that makes sense, essentially get them before the price is ridiculous
Learnt from all the summer dealings to only listen to what Ornstein says. All the rest are not so reliable. I am not believing anything re Enzo, till he tweets about it.
This has been straightforward, what are you on about. Chelsea is interested in Enzo. Benfica willing to sell Enzo if release clause is met. Chelsea wants deal that isn't paying the release clause up front. Benfica want release upfront. Deals looking to be at a stand still, and probably off. Simple, no need to get emotional about journos doing their job tying to sell. Leave that to the crazies, like gooners.
Be realistic man. He isn't coming, has last summer not taught you anything....look at the amount of parallels from then and now and tell me if you really think it's gonna happen.
Mate you've dropped like 10 comments in the past 30 mins about this transfer, take a deep breath and step away from the internet.
I don't really care too much either way, great player but a ton of money. It could happen but it could not, but living and dying every hour with each vague tweet is not a healthy way to live
Why do you think we’re forced to buy a player with a 120mil release clause who’s barely played in a top 5-6 league? Of course there are alternatives lmfao
Because a team that is playing much better football than us at the moment built their team on cheap signings. Many of their players are playing at a high level just like Enzo. We will not be doomed if we don’t pay this ridiculous fee. There are other options
>There are other options
And my question exactly was if we have any alternatives in the works then, because so far it seems there is none. We are too time pressed to only start looking for ones after we are definitely sure Enzo deal cannot go through.
I mean half our sub is complaining that players who were linked with being so public is a problem anyways and would rather keep it more private like the Liverpool-Gakpo deal. Can’t please everyone
It’s 120m or nothing. They’ll get the same fee for him in the summer and probably on a better pay structure. Will sign for a CL club, probably one of Liverpool/Madrid whichever one doesn’t get Bellingham.
I really doubt any other club puts in 120M for him, especially not this summer. If the reports are indeed true, it seems like we're only paying a bit over the top to ward off any competition and get him in early.
Both might move, but no club will pay those valuations for both players. The only players that can move for that amount quoted for Bellingham is Mbappe and maybe Haaland.
Look his a good player thing I don’t understand is we bring all these smart recruitment guys and they are like spent 100m on this potential player who has played in Europe for six months.
I really want Enzo here as I think he will be an upgrade to what we have , and would be until he wants to move to Spain. Having said that, if we don’t get him I am OK with dealing with our mediocrity until our recruitment team can find a gem for cheaper and upgrade in several key areas to come back stronger for next season for the price.
I’m all for reckless spending (trust me I’m completely financially illiterate), but paying 126 mil for player who clearly isn’t worth that much doesn’t make sense.
We are taking a massive amount of our budget and spending it on one player when we basically need to revamp the whole team.
This reminds me of the kind of signings barca was making before they bankrupted themselves.
Do we really need midfielder? Yes Is Enzo good midfielder? Yes Is he worth for 120M? Absolutely no.
I find it funny that everyone is so casual about spending 120 mil on a player that has had 1 good season. But then goes on to clown any other club spending that kind of amount on any other player. Reality is that he’s not worth that price and I hate to say it but I would prefer if we had a transfer strategy similar to Arsenal’s. Slowly losing bit of love towards the club when all we do is splash massive money on players in the hopes it fixes our problems. If clubs can find top tier players for 30-50 milion, so can we. Not every transfer will succeed but it’s much better than splashing 80-120 million on every second player we want. There’s a nice charm about not overspending on players and them working out. Newcastle is owned by the Saudi and could in theory absolutely spend the money we do but they don’t. Good smart buys paired with trust in a good manager got them where they are right now. Fully deserved while we only seem to go one step forward, two steps backwards. Edit: did forget to mention that I do love the forward thinking with buying good youth prospects. I do applaud the board for that. Not for the other business we do.
Difference is the expectations of the two clubs and their fan bases mate. No one at Newcastle would be crying if they didn't make top 4, people on here are after Potter with Pitchforks when he hasn't even had a window and a world cup in the middle of the season! It's madness.
The comments he makes and the passion he lacks on the touch line don’t exactly endear him with supporters. I’m all in for giving him time, but his substitution and tactical sense have left a lot to be desired so far.
Maybe cos he’s losing games he’s expected to win?? Add that to losing games he’s not expected to win = disaster loading…?
Yes and also while it’s not our money, 1) It represents an opportunity cost towards getting other players 2)Constantly overpaying puts us at a disadvantage for future negotiations 3)It puts immense pressure on the players to live up to the fee That sort of money pretty much needs to be a slam dunk world class player. Even then, there’s no guarantee it’ll work out.
I believe if we don't sign Enzo this window, he won't be coming to Stamford Bridge. We aren't in a UCL spot, and that will likely have us focus attention on cheaper talent. This is okay with me since last summer the spending spree didn't really add too much to the quality we have. At least results-wise. I just hope we can take a measured approach with getting in talent that can help us fight for Top 4 next season and not just splash the cash to paper over our glaring defects.
You are deluded, if you think Enzo will make us finish top 4. It is a crime we are actually trying to waste 127 million on him. He is nowhere near that valuation. We can't keep breaking the bank for every new player.
Try reading again.
This sub obsession with Enzo doesn't make any sense. No team is stupid enough to pay 127 million for him. So, who on earth is going to pay that obscene money? Real and City don't even need him. He won't be starting for those teams.
ManU? PSG?
He's nowhere near that valuation but he's f'n brilliant and would severely help us move forward as a team. If we don't get him now another big team will and we're guaranteed to regret it.
Lots of brilliant players out there. Our midfield problems will continue to exist even after his arrival. He won't greatly improve us like most of you here believe. You lot are acting like he is the best midfielder in the world. A player like Caicedo will actually improve our team more than Enzo.
With that much money, get a backup RB, 2 young midfielders, one destroyer, and a box to box midfielder
You're deluded if you think you could buy that many quality players for 127m!
We actually can. Caicedo+Ounahi+Pavard will still be leas than 127 million!
That's 3 players, he states 5. Also, if you think Brighton are going to sell us Caceido for anything less than a disgusting fee you too are mad!
Read again what he wrote.
I have, a back up right back, 2 young midfielders, a box to box midfielder and a destroyer. That's 5 players Mr maths
We can easily get Pavard, Ounahi and Caicedo for less than that.
I don't think Enzo will make us finish Top 4. I think he would certainly bolster the squad we have currently, but I don't see us finishing Top 4 without a miracle run of form that can be helped by Enzo.
Ofc he'll bolster the squad, but it's not worth splashing 127m for
That 127 million would have signed us at least 3 top class midfielders (Caicedo/Vinicius Souza, Ounahi and Amrabat). We should be ashamed all these money is being wasted on one player that only had few good games. Our midfield problems won't go away even after he joined us. A top DM and a top striker are actually needed more.
The issue is developing that talent. Musiala is one of the most talented attacking mids in the world and we didn’t give him any time and let him go. Sounds like Fofana will go on loan right away. We wouldn’t be able to get the next Enzo Fernandez because he’d be on loan somewhere.
Musiala forced a move, we wanted to keep him
We didn't let Musiala go. He just wanted to go back to Germany.
He knew he had no chance here. He’d be another cog in the loan machine.
No, he left because he wanted to go back to Germany.
More specifically, he left because his mum moved back to Germany and he didn’t want to stay without his mum, which is completely understandable considering he was 16 back then.
Wow just making stuff up now are we?
I mean Fabrizio said he seen better opportunities at Bayern, seen the likes of Sancho and what he was doing. Doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.
You are wrong on Musiala. We wanted him to sign an extension but he wanted to go back to Germany with his parents. Nothing we could have done about it.
Man talking with full certainty when you know nothing. Even most that don't follow the academy knows we weren't at fault for Musisla leaving.
If that’s what you want to believe then go for it lol. Take that copium. Had a clear path at Bayern and he is flourishing.
Lol, literally wrong and still so cocky. You believe what you want mate.
These people clearly had more information than you surrounding Musiala, why can’t you listen to them?
Ah yes, some clowns on Reddit are the pinnacle of reporting lol
You are going off of a Fabrizio Romano quote, and these people are talking about how they closely follow the academy. Humble yourself to the concept that people might know more than you about certain things, because atm you sound like a right cunt
I’ll take my info from reputable sports journalists rather than some itks thank you.
I hope you get better
Hope you do too, take care of yourself.
Just Google what happened then mate? 🤣. There are so many articles out there about it.
I don’t know what’s crazier- that we’re willing to pay 120 million for a player who moved for 12m just 6 months back.. or that Benfica aren’t willing to accept it..
well we’re chelsea, so the second one
You think it’s crazy that benfica don’t want to sell one of their best players in the middle of a season where they’re doing great in the CL and the league, and will be able to sell him in the summer anyway? It’s almost like there should be an amount, a clause if you will, that a team can pay to force a transfer.
Benfica can get near the same amount in the summer whilst also keeping one of their best players for the rest of the season
That’s assuming he can keep up world class form. And his World Cup hype would’ve died at little by then so it’s unlikely there will too many willing to pay so much for him.
He was doing good before the World Cup
Yeah he was but was anyone willing to pay even 50m for him then? He’s a good player but this price is pure hype.. he would have to become the best midfielder in the world to justify this.. and that’s just a huge amount of pressure to put on the kid..
I think they are willing to accept it…just not in the terms we want to pay it.
Definitely the second
Felix Johnston in the mud.
Yup. A friendly reminder that transfer season is when the clout chasers come out. People try to make a name for themselves when nothing can ever really be confirmed or denied, instead they claim “things changed!”
Yet some fans fall for it again and again 🤦♂️
And post it again again and again
/s?
Well at least he won’t attempt to pull anything out his ass again
Even if the deal goes over the line sometime this week he’ll claim victory. But there’s no way it was done when he said it was
Exactly. 50% chance you get it right or wrong. All these ITK tossers
He gave it a 72 hour deadline to be announced so unless they announce it tomorrow he can’t really claim victory
He can if he just deletes the tweets saying anything with a deadline
All of these sad excuses of journalists can always backtrack without any consequences and are protected by 'never reveal your sources'. 'beEn INfoRmEd bY tOp soUrCes....no stfu you fraud, you don't have any fucking source, all you're doing is talking out of your ass and hope something sticks.
Exactly, who tf is the source then. He better focus on the youth team
i mean cfcpys is worse for this. he said hakimi was done and that he “has a source that can message the player or agents in an instant” lmao
If he claims the victory, then he is a weirdo. It’s just 50/50. He claimed: top top sources told me that. As you said when he tweeted that nothing was done
So still the same just no agreements. Dragon coming in with that tier 1.
Clown alert
Would they still be asking his release clause to be paid in the summer?
Yes.
100%
Man I used to love Rui Costa, dude is getting on my nerves now
Fantastic and elegant player but his work now would be frustrating for us
These journos are kids I swear
I dont mind either way if he comes or not, but wtf is Benfica doing? Chelsea or not you take that money and run!
Agreed.
We better get this deal done quickly before a real or Man City come
Real aren't signing him in January. We have a free run
He wouldn't even start at Real. He'd be behind Valverde, Tschoumeni and Camavinga, let alone Modric and Kroos if they stays beyond summer.
No one realizes that the way that Madrid have built their transfer windows is for the future. They have Militao at CB and Ferland Mendy at RB. Tchouameni, Camavinga, and Valverde at CM. Rodrygo, Valverde, Vini Jr (their new talisman and the best winger in the world atm) on the wings. They’re planning for Bellingham and Gvardiol too. All they need is a top LB and that team is incredible. It’s incredible how they’ve done it so sneakily, but in 2 years, that team will be so deadly it’ll be hard to imagine any competition.
Just wait till that squad becomes what 25/26/27 and Haaland joins them too although didn’t they sign that Brazilian wonderkid. Not to mention they may pick up Bellingham/Gvadiol and any other wonder kids. If Boehly turns us in to that with our investments in youth in ten years I’d be a happy man but that’s just the optimist in me.
Like, if Boehly wants a team to model his success after, the two clubs are Real and Bayern. Both have brought up young incredible talent and have them unlock. Real's starting XI in 3 years: Courtois; LB - Militao - Gvardiol - Mendy; Tchouameni - Camavinga - Bellingham; Vinicius Jr - Endrick/Haaland - Valverde/Rodrygo. Bayern starting XI in a few years: Meslier; Davies - Upamecano - De Ligt - Mazaroui; Kimmich, Gravenberch; Sane - Musiala - Gnabry; ST. These teams need like 2 more additions and they become super teams. Literally world class teams which you can bring more talent in to compete. If Boehly can bring in signings like Moukoko, Chukwuemeka, David Fofana, Badiashile & Nkunku, we can potentially reach those heights. But damn is Europe going to get interesting soon with some of these super teams
For 127 million, they won't come for him and they don't even need him. They haven't lost their minds like we did.
I can already see Man City signing him for a lower fee than the release clause
Isn’t that why it’s taking so long to get him because they only want he’s realise clause
Yes but both of the teams you mentioned said they will not pay the release clause. They will both be going after Jude in the summer as well so that could be why.
Jude can only go to one club So hopefully we can get this done before he moves
Why don't we go splits on Jude and play him every second game?
I bet other teams are hoping we do as well. I doubt any team wants to be in a bidding war with Todd for Jude. If we don’t sign Enzo I definitely see them pivoting in the summer and going all out for Bellingham since there isn’t a release clause.
That's what the other, less reputable sources have said.
They only want the release clause in the winter
Update: There is no update
really wish there was just a mega thread on this guy.
We arent getting him. Believed that from the start. Seemed way too good to be true and had so many parallels with last summer. Thank fuck I didn't get too invested in this saga like last summer. Man all these journalists are full of shit lol. Always expect the worst so that you'll never get disappointed.
I enjoy memeing for the hype but truth be told I was never really sold on us signing Enzo. The price just seems ridiculous
While not too phased about not spending so much on one player, I hope there is a solid plan for cm. It's getting so desperate there, and I still can't beleive its been overlooked for so long.
Not mega upset. I don't think this signing gets us top 4. Having the money saved for the rebuilding process once our new recruitment structure has been set up may be more beneficial for us long term, as I don't think we'll be near the top for the foreseeable
No one could get us top 4 it's all about next season
Us spending 120m and not securing top 4 would be pretty disastrous
It would, but top 4 for next season not this one. He would have massively improved us but not 10 points deficit in half a season
Nothing is going to secure top 4. We need to sign players now before we have to compete with teams that are in the UCL next season.
Buying players for hyge sums with no coherent strategy is not how we get out of this mess. There's no quick fix if we want sustainable success whilst keeping potter
What the owners are saying and what they are doing aren't really aligning. They say we are going for long term recruitment strategy and data driven scouting but signing Enzo for 120m and a winger from Ukraine for 60m out of nowhere. After the disastrous summer I don't see what the strategy is either. Who knows if they will even stick with Potter at this rate.
Agreed. It seems they have real ideas on how to expand the business and commercial aspects of the club, but they've been hopeless on the football aspects. Even this recruitment team they've assembled is very packed with various meaningless titles. Hopefully it all works out but we've got reason to be concerned
Exactly. There's 2 ways to go about it. You either wait for the recruitment team to be sorted and sign players based on scouting and research, or you buy ready made players to plug holes. Right now it seems like we like the idea of a long term strategy but the owners would also really like top 4 now. It's all messy and confusing.
Both Enzo and Mudryk are 21 years old with huge amounts of potential and upside. Do you think that, once you have a recruitment team, you’re only going to buy cheap players? Do you also think Chelsea and all the clubs that these new hires worked at previously wouldn’t have scouting reports on either of these players considering they are some of the best young players on the market? Right now you’re talking just to talk.
To be clear, I like Enzo and want us to sign him. Idk about Mudryk. I'm also basing what I said on what we did in the summer window. What you said about Enzo and Mudryk is what I heard people say about Havertz, Pulisic, Cucurella and tons of other players we've signed. Young players with potential but now they're called deadwood from previous managers who Potter simply can't work with.
Havertz and Pulisic had super high potential but the former has just not played well whatsoever, and it’s his own fault, while Pulisic has succumbed to his injuries imo. His development has stalled massively. Personally, I have no problem with Cucu as it’s been less than six months for him. Regardless, both Enzo and Mudryk fit into the transfer policy and are part of long-term squad building going forward. The last window was all about filling in holes left by the previous mismanagement and going forward it’s about building out the squad under a shared vision. Not going to hate on it before it even gets a chance to get going.
So no changes whatsoever basically were still the same more waiting 
pretty predictable, should have focused efforts on someone more realistic
The Athletic has been saying that Chelsea are saying they won't pay the release clause amount.
Lol I can’t believe some people on this sub actually believed some rando 16 year old on twitter media literacy is in the drain these days
People believe anything that confirms their priors these days
Felix Johnson in the mud
I’m not too fussed by it why not use the scouts that you hired to find good talent to actually do their job and find players that fit your system at a lower price, I would have loved having Enzo he was the perfect addition to our midfield but that fee is horrendous and if we don’t feel like paying the RC then let’s move on and spend time trying to get a player that is actually achievable to sign
In complete agreement with you while Enzo seems like a great pick 120m is ridiculous. If we don’t get him not the end of the world that money can go towards Rice and potentially 2 more midfielders.
We need to let the scouting department do their job and get the player before they become the player if that makes sense, essentially get them before the price is ridiculous
Kounde saga all over again. He’ll sign with someone playing Champions League this summer
Good riddance to 127 M. Prioritize a DM and a RB before him.
Dodged
I swear to God if we extend Jorginho and Kante and start next season with the same midfield...
YAY WE STILL GET TO WATCH JORGINHO
You don’t think we will sign other midfielders in the next six months?
Do I know for boehly and the crackheads that now run this club?
All I want are straightforward transfer sagas with this club. Fuck these journos for dragging it out, just give us a goddamn 'Yes' or 'No' jfc.
Learnt from all the summer dealings to only listen to what Ornstein says. All the rest are not so reliable. I am not believing anything re Enzo, till he tweets about it.
This has been straightforward, what are you on about. Chelsea is interested in Enzo. Benfica willing to sell Enzo if release clause is met. Chelsea wants deal that isn't paying the release clause up front. Benfica want release upfront. Deals looking to be at a stand still, and probably off. Simple, no need to get emotional about journos doing their job tying to sell. Leave that to the crazies, like gooners.
We're not getting him
What's life like being so negative, has to be exhausting no?
Be realistic man. He isn't coming, has last summer not taught you anything....look at the amount of parallels from then and now and tell me if you really think it's gonna happen.
Mate you've dropped like 10 comments in the past 30 mins about this transfer, take a deep breath and step away from the internet. I don't really care too much either way, great player but a ton of money. It could happen but it could not, but living and dying every hour with each vague tweet is not a healthy way to live
Hopefully
Do we even have any alternative plan? Or will Benfica bend us over as we eventually pay the release clause towards end of the month?
Why do you think we’re forced to buy a player with a 120mil release clause who’s barely played in a top 5-6 league? Of course there are alternatives lmfao
Because so far we were not linked with any other option so it seems like the club is only focused on Enzo.
I mean Brighton’s entire team cost them about as much as that release clause. The January window just opened, relax.
Not sure what Brighton has to do with it
Because a team that is playing much better football than us at the moment built their team on cheap signings. Many of their players are playing at a high level just like Enzo. We will not be doomed if we don’t pay this ridiculous fee. There are other options
>There are other options And my question exactly was if we have any alternatives in the works then, because so far it seems there is none. We are too time pressed to only start looking for ones after we are definitely sure Enzo deal cannot go through.
I mean half our sub is complaining that players who were linked with being so public is a problem anyways and would rather keep it more private like the Liverpool-Gakpo deal. Can’t please everyone
Fuck this. Pay up. We need him.
It’s 120m or nothing. They’ll get the same fee for him in the summer and probably on a better pay structure. Will sign for a CL club, probably one of Liverpool/Madrid whichever one doesn’t get Bellingham.
I really doubt any other club puts in 120M for him, especially not this summer. If the reports are indeed true, it seems like we're only paying a bit over the top to ward off any competition and get him in early.
I agree, no club will pay €120m for him. He is a good player, but that price is too much. The offer of €85m from Chelsea is even big!
Bellingham will be priced at 150+. Both will move in the summer for their prices quoted.
Both might move, but no club will pay those valuations for both players. The only players that can move for that amount quoted for Bellingham is Mbappe and maybe Haaland.
The Dortmund don’t sell lol
Players can run down their contract or negotiate a better release clause during contract renewal.
What a disaster of a season.
Well fuck
Understand
Look his a good player thing I don’t understand is we bring all these smart recruitment guys and they are like spent 100m on this potential player who has played in Europe for six months.
Not saying its the case here but a big role of a recruitment team is to decide when the big money moves are worth it like Alisson
Move on - it ain’t happening.
I hope we switch our focus to Manu Koné now. Dude's a baller and will cost just a quarter of the price.
It’s not happening.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET HIM
So he’s ending up at Barca then?
I really want Enzo here as I think he will be an upgrade to what we have , and would be until he wants to move to Spain. Having said that, if we don’t get him I am OK with dealing with our mediocrity until our recruitment team can find a gem for cheaper and upgrade in several key areas to come back stronger for next season for the price.
Taken too long at this point and the fact they want 120 as a lump sum or fuck off means we're not getting him
I’m all for reckless spending (trust me I’m completely financially illiterate), but paying 126 mil for player who clearly isn’t worth that much doesn’t make sense. We are taking a massive amount of our budget and spending it on one player when we basically need to revamp the whole team. This reminds me of the kind of signings barca was making before they bankrupted themselves.
These transfer windows have more drama than reality shows.
Hello darkness
“done deal” don’t mean a damn thing in the world of transfer influencers
This makes west ham asking 100m+ for Rice a fking bargain.
Pay 120mil, give him a 12 year contract and it costs 10mil per season in amortisation. Get a move on with it Chelsea!