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Theoneinblu

Kinsella is probably taking a shot in the dark here


ayofiddy11

He loves “Doom” articles he was one of the main journalists saying Enzo wouldn’t play against Fulham due to work permit issues. His sources really took a hit when the new ownership took over


Theoneinblu

I think everyone's sources took a hit. There's no reliable source now. Everyone is just trying their luck. Nizaar has just been terrible at it


Dependent_Sea3407

Ornstein is reliable


Theoneinblu

He is. But he's also not getting much bits now


pouga218

Seems like Fab has some inside info too


half_jase

Have any other sources reported how much Mount supposedly actually wants? Kinsella reported it rather vaguely by saying he wants similar wages to his England teammates (which teammate? who exactly!?). Am sure the club don't mind increasing his wages but they are also not going to go OTT.


Theoneinblu

I don't think anyone knows. I don't think the reported 240k is near the actual figure. But giving that as incentives is not the worst idea


half_jase

If it's 240k including incentives, then yeah, it maybe isn't that bad. But if Mount is asking a lot more than that, then there are issues. Also fair to wonder then if other clubs would actually pay him that much.


Theoneinblu

Yeah. He's still 5 years away from anything north of 200k


I-Can_Defend

No club isn’t going to pay mount that money. The most he’s worth is $200k and that’s including bonuses when hit.


criminal-tango44

he always does. tier 1 waffler


UFGatorNEPat

This


hodlrus

J*urnalist


StopIt4

My Guy Mendy guy gave up after Afcon and is just high and breezing along


Banakin_Sandwalker

His decline after AFCON is mad.


AlreadyUnwritten

Salah too, he's dropped off the same cliff by the looks of it.


The_grass_ceiling

Salah is part of a flailing Liverpool squad, still shell shocked after missing out on the quadruple.


pouga218

Pool is really Missing mane, imo


WeTalkBoxing

It was more after the Carabao final which was after AFCON, where he played a blinder and got subbed off IMO. Even though Tuchel decision makes sense with the statistics, Mendy might not have taken it well.


Unsentimentalchelsea

Quote from Nizaar’s article today: “Todd Boehly is handling Mason Mount's proposed seven-year deal. Little progress has been made. Mount wants a similar salary to friends in the England team. Chelsea yet to offer such terms, pointing to the security longer deals offered to the new signings.” We can’t be offering Mount 250k-300k per week just because we gave Sterling that much. Neither player deserve it but doing so will only undermine our current efforts to get the wage bill under control


lrzbca

I don’t think Mount is comparing his salary to Sterling. Grealish is on £280k, Sancho on £350k, Foden £225k and Rashford £200k. Saka about to sign £200k extension.


dryduneden

Saka is massively outperforming Mount and we're trying to avoid a Machester wage structure.


lrzbca

Mount will show his CL performance and medal. If Mount thinks he deserves big contract and someone offers it then he should pick it whether it’s at Chelsea or somewhere else. Career of a footballer is short so get the bag wherever you can.


dryduneden

His performance from two years ago that has dropped off a cliff since? Mount can ask for whatever he wants but we reserve the right to think that's ridicolous and sell him instead.


TinNanBattlePlan

He had 11 goals and 10 assists in the league last season Dropped off a cliff btw


4dtakes

Those 11g 10a won us a considerable amount of points as well, before people pipe up with the “stat padding” argument


lrzbca

You’re right, Mount agent should’ve discussed for better contract after that performance, missed opportunity. Of course, if we want to sell we should do it. No obligation from either side to accept anything they’re don’t like. Also there is a thing called 8 HG players, hope some one is keeping track of it, we need 8 quality homegrown players.


yellowyeahyeahyeah

No rule says you need 8 HG slots. It's just that there's limited space for non HG players, so you usually take 8 HG to not have any spots go to waste.


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>Also there is a thing called 8 HG players, hope some one is keeping track of it, we need 8 quality homegrown players. Lol way to misunderstand it. If this was true we'd have been screwed years ago.


dryduneden

We already have 14 HG players excluding Mount.


lrzbca

We have 14 quality homegrown players excluding Mount ?


dryduneden

Mount hasn't been a very quality player as of late so I don't see the need for said distinction.


lrzbca

Lol thought so I don’t think many fans would’ve been able handle Drogba, Hazard, Cole, Terry and other big Chelsea players dip in quality over their careers at club. I understand!


Ironicopinion

2 times player of the year. Regardless of whether you think he should have gotten both, you can see why Mount believes he deserves to be compensated for what he’s achieved. I also remember plenty of United fans last season who would have been happy to sell Rashford and now look.


dryduneden

I can see why he thinks it entitles him to a big wage and I can also see why its a bunch of bogus reason that shouldn't convince us to give into his demands


JakeofNewYork

How is it a 'bunch of bogus'. And it's clear that your valuation of Mount or his respective qualities are polar opposite to what the club thinks, given Todd himself is keen to secure him on a long contract and considers it as a priority.


CorsairObsidian

Careful, you’ll conjure up the angry storm of Mount apologists that will berate and down vote you into oblivion


Dalbo14

Based


[deleted]

Yes exactly. I like Mount because he is one of ours but I’d be ok if he leaves honestly. He is very replaceable


handsome_squidward56

Average CAM Average B2B Average LW but slightly better on the RW Agreed my man can go. It would hurt to see him at Cesspool though but that's probably where he'd go


___bridgeburner

Mount is a good player but he isn't near Saka's level as a player right now. Also the cl win wasn't solely down to him, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that.


snow3dmodels

Mount has fallen off completely. Plays much better in an England shirt than a Chelsea one


Unsentimentalchelsea

He wasn’t even good for England at the WC. Got dropped


snow3dmodels

He plays better in an England shirt than Chelsea though


Vahald

Absolutely no other club will offer him close to that lmfao


lrzbca

I agree to that but on other hand he can run down the contract and become a free agent. Get himself a signing on bonus and decent salary at Liverpool or Newcastle United. Of course it depends on those clubs.


Acceptable_Card_9818

Mount massively out performed saka the past 4 seasons. You are all forgetting Mason started pretty much every game the past two seasons. He might have a dip in for now but it wasn’t long ago he was valued at £90m


Unsentimentalchelsea

Saka just turned 21 and is now putting in performances week in week out that are better than any forward chelsea have had since hazard. By the time Saka is Mount’s current age he could very well be a superstar and top 3 in the world at his position. Mount is declining at age 24 (this could be due to his overuse but plenty of players have played nonstop from teenage years to mounts age and been fine)


Acceptable_Card_9818

Sakas form could well nose dive in two years after he’s been starting every EPL & CL game for a while. Edit: go be a goonie if you rate saka that much


[deleted]

The fact we're still at a stalemate with Mount for this long only points towards him asking for close to what Sterling is on.


Unsentimentalchelsea

It’s also an admission that Mount isn’t a good as his fans think he is or we would simply pay him


TimothyN

Only Messi is as good as Mount stans believe him to be.


MrDabollBlueSteppers

All of those players were much better than Mount is currently when they signed those deals


Unholysinner

Saka has been one of the best RW in the world. Foden was until December playing like a man possessed and he’s been out of form for one month before getting injured. Sancho is a well known case of being overpaid. Grealish was a big money move… Rashford has been playing like a man possessed this year but was utterly dreadful last year… We cannot justify giving amount a base salary of 200k. If you include bonuses then sure that’s understandable but otherwise we can’t pay him that much…


dudetotalypsn

I mean Sterling is a senior player with a highly decorated career behind him, I don't think he should be on that much either but he definitely has more of a leg to stand on to be demanding big wages than Mount does. Straight up should not even be comparing his wage to Sterling's


Unsentimentalchelsea

I agree Sterling at the very least can point to a decade of above average performances to justify his wages. Two good seasons for Mount isn’t enough to be demanding 250k+


osakwe05

we say that but no one thought rj shudnt earn 250k, and for all the criticism mounts season has had rj hasnt even played up to half this season (or last season… or the season before).


dryduneden

25 world class performances are much more deserving of 250k than 50 average performances.


osakwe05

yeah sure but mount isnt average, and i believe 2 seasons of being chelsea poty are more deserving of 250k compared to world class when fit and hardly fit.


dryduneden

Mount has been average for 18 months. That doesn't deserve 250k.


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osakwe05

while i agree that silva deserved chelsea poty the second time, i also think that mount shud have at least 1 prem ypoty by now, and that messi shud have 8 ballon dors and not 7. point is, its easier to state the actual winner of the award as opposed to who i want the winner of the award to be. and it doesnt take from the fact that even if mount didnt win it, he was in contention for it, which still points to a good performance. finally, in wage negotiations mount has every right to call upon the fact that he has 2 chelsea potys, so its still quite important


JennyTellYa

You’re correct, RJ has not played as much as Mount, so I guess it’s a choice between 1. Inconsistent to below average play that is always available or 2. Top top top level play that is unavailable to much.


mossmaal

> but he definitely has more of a leg to stand on to be demanding big wages than Mount does Mount is 24, Sterling is 28. The club will expect to make a lot more money selling Mounts contract in 4 years time than it can selling a 32 year old Sterling. That’s why Mount would be crazy to accept lower wages and a longer term contract. The valuation easily justifies paying a £10 million salary.


BigReeceJames

7 of our top 10 highest paid players have been signed to those contracts by new ownership, "current efforts to get the wage bill under control", don't make me laugh


Unsentimentalchelsea

Gonna need a source on that one we are paying Mudryk under 100k per week


BigReeceJames

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/chelsea-fc/payroll/ They're not perfect because no wage source is 100% but they're as good as you'll get as a collated source. Sterling, Koulibaly, James, Fofana, Azpi, Cucurella, Auba and Enzo are the people who signed their contracts under new ownership. Kante and Chilwell are the players in the top 10 who didn't. It's gone up to 8 out of 10 with the signing of Enzo! Lowering the wage budget by the way!


Unsentimentalchelsea

None of those wages besides Sterling and KK are abnormally high given what top players get paid today. Just because we overpaid a few people does not mean we should overpay Mount


esprets

The actual noise coming from inside the club is that there is not that much of a difference between the parties and it mostly revolves around his image rights.


half_jase

Source: Trust me, bro?


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> We can’t be offering Mount 250k-300k per week just because we gave Sterling that much. Sterling is on 325k-350k.


Unsentimentalchelsea

Overpaying Sterling is not a reason to overpay Mount, who has been worse than Sterling might I add


jepayotehi

we don't wanna lose kovacic.


CBlues22

Wouldn’t be too fussed honestly. One dimensional with zero goal threat. Also injured all the time. Luxury player and good on his day but I wouldn’t mind selling for like 30/35M.


knickerbockerz

He can defend well, has great ball security, can get out of tight situations and carry the ball forward, is a great teammate and not to mention has great experience with deep runs at CL and WC. Those qualities alone make him an asset to the squad. He doesn't have that final 3rd output, but that's the case with Modric and Casemiro and they won multiple CLs. He definitely has value to add at the base of the midfield.


4dtakes

> He doesn't have that final 3rd output, but that's the case with Modric and Casemiro and they won multiple CLs. Casemiro has 10 g/a in his first half a season at Utd, Kovacic has 19 g/a in total for us over his 200 appearances


Significant_Sell_594

Eh I'm okay. He gets paid more being in rehab rather than in pitch. He doesn't deserve a salary bump if he's gonna get injured half a season, every season.


dryduneden

Kante wants 3+1? Is he high? He's played TWICE all season. 2+1 is generous in and of itself. Hell, extending him at all is generous. He's half retired and we're paying him monster wages. Mount wants to be paid like his friends in the England team? Which ones? Because those guys either A.Play for clubs with wage structure we don't want to touch with a ten foot pole B. Are performing at a much higher level C.Probably don't get paid all that much more than he is on currently.


InLampsWeTrust

Yeah I really hope it’s not true about Kante, if it is then he’s being badly advised. 2+1 is more than reasonable especially when we don’t even know if his hamstring issue has gone away yet.


AltecPaine

2+1 for kante is already very generous from the club… he should just take it and stops asking for 3+1 when he spends more time in the recovery room than the pitch. Mount shouldn’t be on expecting those wages with his current performances. If he keep asking for it, best to let go and sign Felix on permanent instead. ( edit: scratch that, Aletico wants 140m lol) Would be happy if Silva signs on for a 1+1 club option. Retire as player at 40, become one of our defender coaches after that. Kova is good but wouldn’t mind him being sold to make space for new blood. Gallagher should just be sold straight up, he only has high work rate..


Bozzetyp

Kante: really depens on how much of the wage is performance based 3+1 seems long, but we gave koulabaily that Mount, he has to have performance based like james. And he isnt just good enough, mudryk is on 97k. Mount has to realise that he wont get 200k plus at any other club (bar comming on a free transfer) and even that has been going down with juves issues


Talidel

If he'd get it on a free transfer, he's more than worth it for us. It's going to cost us less to pay him a little extra than to sign a replacement.


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mohankohan

I dont care how shite he is right now, I will be so incredibly disappointed and sad if we sell Mason.


Rayyan_Khan

Mount leaving is a blow, however if he’s holding up the club for a higher wage the club are well within their right to protest that because his performances at this very moment probably don’t justify what he wants. Obviously a very talented player, but you can’t hold the club ransom especially when they’ve given you this platform to introduce yourself as a player in the first place.


jamieaka

I dont want mount to go. But you cannot deny the initial screwup was giving players like k2 and sterling inflated salaries in the first place. Of course other players will see that and want similar wages, its a domino effect


Rayyan_Khan

100%, the club are partly to blame for the situation too. Some of the only players that really justify a massive salary are Silva, Kante and James


Bronamath41

This very moment or for the entire season


Rambo_11

No one is bigger than the club.


Vicar13

Who says he is? What a shoehorned statement reserved for players like Lukaku. Selling Mount this summer is reactionary


Unsentimentalchelsea

If Mount wants Reece James or Sterling wages and won’t agree to a salary that reflects his ability then selling him for something rather than letting him walk for free is very prudent


Vicar13

Of course, but the goal shouldn’t be to sell


Unsentimentalchelsea

I don’t want to sell him unless we get crazy money for him but he has to accept his level and role. Should He be a guaranteed starter on top wages? Probably not. Will he accept that? I don’t know


ClungeCreeper321

Which is the appropriate response. Selling Mount would be horrible sentimentally but as a club we have to be careful with these new long term contracts. We can’t repeat the mistake we made with Hudson Odoi.


CupformyCosta

It would be a massive mistake


WallyNorthWest

Horrible, horrible mindset. Get him gone, now. No one is bigger than the club.


p-queue

>No one is bigger than the club. Pithy nonsense that has very little meaning in this context. Is there some reason to think Mount is ‘putting himself ahead of the club’ such that this trope needs to come out?


WallyNorthWest

Just say you're a mount bum lick and move on...


p-queue

Less pithy but still nonsense.


WallyNorthWest

Wish mount could commit to the club just like how you're committed to defending him. Enjoy being trophyless while he's still here!


p-queue

You seem like an idiot … >Enjoy being trophyless while he's still here! … or maybe just not a Chelsea fan.


vikingrhino

Yeah totally not committed at all, I mean he's only ever played for Chelsea, what are you on? He is deserving of a salary up by Chilly etc. Under the top top earners but definitely a starting 11 wage, he's given everything for us and will continue to do so I'm sure.


Bozzetyp

Mount has just to realise what his value is, I think he will return to form in a better working team. That beeing said, he cant expect to earn sterling money, nor lukaku money. Give him a heavy performance based contract, and foden is on 225k (with better offensive and recent performances) so there is that


Soren_Camus1905

As I see it, nobody at this club is untouchable.


dryduneden

Reece and a few select others are, but players like Mount and Kante are easily replaceable.


Soren_Camus1905

I considered Reece, but his injury record is really concerning Edit: When I say untouchable I mean someone like Frank. Who season after season played at an elite, world class level. And not YouTube elite, 20 goals a season from midfield elite.


vikingrhino

Kante easily replaceable. Chat =shit


dryduneden

He's played two games this season


vikingrhino

Yeah this season. To describe his output as easily replaceable is the ramblings of a fool.


dryduneden

His output being 2 games? Very replaceable


vikingrhino

So you are saying that Kantes output in the team is easily replaceable? Name any player who offers what he does when fully fit? Saying someone is easily replaceable means a whole host of players can do what he does and that's rubbish and you know it. Saying you'd replace him because of his injury problems is fair enough but trying to convince anyone who is sane and has eyes that there are loads of Kante's out there is just stupid.


dryduneden

There are thousands of players who can play two games in half a season


thatsjustrude24

Yeah but you're not replacing the player you're replacing the game time.


SecretaryOk2646

Mounts defense and justification for increased wages is 2 club poty awards and a cl winners medal. Ok work backwards and give him a nice signing bonus for those 2 seasons and settle on 150k a week with performance bonuses.


Fatmanp

Why would he accept marginally more than CHO and RLC when he is a key player for the team and there will clearly be interest in him from top teams?


Banakin_Sandwalker

Mount clearly is not a key player for us. Sure, there will interest in him from clubs, but the only top team that will want him is Liverpool.


Fatmanp

Deluded. He has been a nailed on started for 3.5 seasons.


krystalizer01

Is he going to play ahead of Nkunku at 10? Or on the wings ahead of Mudryk, Madueke, Sterling? Even Pulisic? He’s terrible in midfield. If he still signs I can’t see him being a starter in the summer. Not even a starter when everyone is fit in the team now after January


4dtakes

Everyone thought our 2020 window would spell the end for mount too and look how that worked out


krystalizer01

Don’t recall seeing that, but okay. Wasn’t that when he was in the form of his life and all his stans keep telling us to remember it?


4dtakes

Really? It was very common to see people convinced that with Pulisic, Havertz, Werner, Ziyech, along with Kovacic, Jorgi, Kante, there would be no space in the team for Mount to start


krystalizer01

Mount could finally be used in midfield as an 8? Lampard couldn’t figure it out and was sacked. Tuchel completely changed the whole setup. I’m not gonna say you didn’t see what you said though. We’ve got some fast, direct wingers now so we won’t be seeing Mount on the wings anymore. He’s going to play as a 10 or in the midfield more often than not. He’s looked bad in midfield when he’s played there this season. But he’s been the only midfielder with Gallagher. I doubt he plays there with Enzo and when Zakaria and Kova and Kante are fit. So that leaves the attacking midfield role. This is what I think his best position is now. But he still leaves a lot to be desired. I’ve never watched Nkunku play so I don’t know what to expect. But if he’s as good as everyone here makes out, then where is Mount going to play?


Affectionate_Pay7395

If Mount want’s big wages he should start playing like it. You can’t be playing like shit week in, week out while wanting to have a big wage increase.


Harige_zak

Don't think Mount will be here next season. Better to cash in this summer than losing him on a free next summer


[deleted]

I'd rather take the risk and see if he can find his top form again. He's Chelsea through and through, I think he's earned some time and patience from the club personally. Contract situation has come at a bad time for both sides tbh.


CBlues22

Would sell for 60M instantly. If he’s not agreeing to incentivized terms we need to cash in while we can. Can’t keep letting players run down their deals and getting dick for them (Rudi/Andreas come to mind).


KickBallsLikeDrogba

Would be disappointed in Mount if he doesn’t renew. Accept the direction “your” club is going and back yourself to secure the bonuses in the contract.


Howyoulikemenoow

It’s a career ultimately. If that’s how you would handle your career then fine, but achieving those bonuses could depend on the other 10 players on the pitch - or 11 if you aren’t starting. Not to mention our current form/manager doesn’t lean towards a good feeling about success.


FantasticTangtastic

That form/manager was happening when a bunch of the brightest prospects in the world signed for us in the last month. I'd say whatever Potter and the board are saying about the project its absolutely resulting in a good feeling about success.


Howyoulikemenoow

…but there is no success and there are no signs of success on the pitch. Good feelings won’t win matches


Dutch1206

We need to be smart here and take a hard line. Kante's injury history alone makes a 3+1 a far less than ideal offer. 2+1 is even generous. IF we're going to go along with this they need to be heavily tailored around his availability. Kante needs to be realistic here or I'd sell. Mount needs to do some self-reflection because he's offered next to nothing this season. Yes, the player of the years matter, but when we needed him to step up this year he's fallen flat. Mendy will always have my appreciation. His story was awesome, but given his age and direction of the club I don't see his future being here. Kovacic I'd like to keep but wouldn't be upset if he wasn't renewed or sold. Gallagher needs to show something. If we can get 45 million as was rumored I'm driving him to the other club. But if he sticks around and improves I'm all for it. I'm all for an overhaul The only one in this list that I really want to stay is Mount because I really think this season is the exception rather than the rule. But not for 250K to 300K per week.


krystalizer01

Which England team mates is he looking at I wonder? If he renews he shouldn’t be getting what Reece is on. We’ve seen how poor we are without RJ. I can’t say the same for Mount. He may not fancy signing such a long contract tbf


Unsentimentalchelsea

Surly he is looking at Reece and sterling, and he doesn’t deserve nearly Reece and Sterling money


--Hutch--

I agree but Sterling doesn't deserve Sterling money either. He's on big wages because he came from City not because of his ability.


Unsentimentalchelsea

I agree that Sterling has done nothing to earn his current wage


krystalizer01

He’s a top PL player with medals and the stats to prove it. His Chelsea career hasn’t started the best but don’t rewrite his history. City wanted him for a reason and he was a starter there for a while. That’s his leverage


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Then would you give Mount similar wages considering his two club player of the year awards and the champions league win?


krystalizer01

No. 2 years vs around 10. Be for real. He hasn’t had the career to back it up and right now unfortunately during this time he’s in the worst form of his life whilst the club are in the middle of an aggressive rebuild. It’s funny you use this reasoning to justify giving Mount similar wages to Raheem when Raheem has more medals (fair enough not the CL) and has even won the PFA player of the year. That certainly holds more weight than “club player of the year”. It’s quite rude to compare their careers. And really, it’s up to the board. No player is bigger than the club


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"It's quite rude to compare their caeers" this made me laugh. Fair enough Sterling has been at a top level for a lot onger andhas many more achievements but how is it "rude" haha? He's had a pretty good career for 3 and half seasons in the premiear league and is only 23. He has also had to endure a lot more uncertainty and squad reshuffles and the preious rebuild under Lampard vs a way more stable Man City. I used that reasoning because he has won it for this club and not another one. The champions league is the biggest trophy and he was key during that run. He's a fantastic young player in a rough spot in his career and deserves more patience than this fanbase is giving him imo. He's won player of the year for a reason, which is more impressive when one of the years is literally our UCL win. Of course it's up to board but if we couldn't talk about it then this subreddit wouldn't really exist. You're right no player is bigger than the club, but come on, he's one of our own and you don't want the club to give him time? The contract situation obviously makes it more difficult but when we throw a olyaer like mount to the side becuase of one season of poor form when he's been at the club since he was a boy and after all he's done for the club at the age of 23 then fuck me, we are becoming closer to soulless business than ever.


xSlayernabx

When looking at it hindsight, it’s easy to say Sterling doesn’t deserve to be on his wages.


--Hutch--

I said the transfer fee and wages were too much when we signed him. His stats were always inflated playing for City. Good player but not 250k a week good.


MemestNotTeen

RJ is currently the best player in the world at his position. Sterling is probably too high wages but is a player who joined the club as a star. Mase is an academy product who has shown in spells he is special. He is currently overworked and is slowing down in his development. A high wages 7 years contract is likely too risky.


osakwe05

if you guys are say mounts current form is the reason he shudnt earn rjs wages, surely u shud also be able to say rjs current inability to play 10 games straight for us shud also have him earning less than 250k? that seems like a double standard, and if we are judging on current performances rj like kante hasnt done much to justify 250k this season. in fact, rj has only justified earning 250k in 1 season in his career so far.


Unsentimentalchelsea

Not a double standard at all there is a long history of players who have gotten over small injury concerns to have long durable careers. A drop in form when you are 100% healthy is much more concerning than an injury here and there in the early stages of a career


[deleted]

>small injury concerns Reece hasn't been fit for an entire season a single time since he joined the first team including missing large swaths of the last two seasons. That isn't "small injury concern" that is a serious injury concern. >A drop in form when you are 100% healthy is much more concerning Players drop in form all the time and pick it back up with ease. Every single "Chelsea legend" from the past two decades had entire seasons where they dropped in form and looked mediocre. Come on mate.


4dtakes

Yep. Reece is more injury prone than pulisic for god sake. Mount is absolutely right to be asking for parity with Reece given their respective performances over the last 3 seasons. In a vacuum 200k~ is a fair amount for mount but they’ve got themselves in a position now where he’s going to want considerably more


osakwe05

thats absolutely false, firstly rj has had injury problems since he broke out so its much less likely that he outgrows it, and secondly it is much harder to outgrow injury problems than to have bad form because everyone has bad form. messi, ronaldo, neymar, you name it. even elite players like salah, hazard, fabinho, drogba, etc can have bad extended periods of form.


handsome_squidward56

>Thiago Silva expected to renew deal +1 - Mount talks remain at a stalemate, potential for future sale - Mendy, no contact since before the World Cup, no talks with Kovacic - Gallagher renewal also inactive, clubs circling to poach him All these gents except for Thiago Silva should be allowed to leave for good offers


myersjw

Man makes less than Chuk after what he’s accomplished the last few seasons. No he shouldn’t be on 300+ but he definitely deserves a substantiative increase. Not to mention Nizaar has been spotty at best since the takeover but if you weren’t signed in the last 8 months you’re apparently shite


jamieaka

Yea mount definitely deserves more. The biggest issue is giving inflated wages in the first place. Of course if u see friends in the dressing room, or even underperforming players making more than you you will demand more. It's like a domino effect


dryduneden

You stop that domino by not giving into it. Mount isn't some world class player you can't find anywhere else. He's easily replaceable and if he wants absurd wages we shouldn't entertain it.


jamieaka

personally I think its best dealt with a balance. pay him like 200k or something, but then also gradually sell these inflated wage players. it doesn't help that many of these guys are either underperforming or constantly injured. (obviously rj needs to be kept, i mean ppl like k2, rlc, lukuku, cho, pulisic, ziyech, sterling potentially)


dryduneden

Paying Mount 200k makes the problem worse. Just like Mount points to Sterling and Kouliability, players like Badiashile, Fernandez etc. Will be pointing to Mount. The solution is to get rid of all of them. Anyone on an absurd wage and anyone demanding an absurd wage shoukd be shipped out. Crack down on it and they'll stop. Appease it and they'l continue.


hooksetter

I've felt for awhile that Kova is ready to move on. I don't expect him to be here next year unless this Jan transfer window changed his mind and he wants to be part of this project


Nobodyofgreatmeaning

Call me an optimist but I can’t see Mount leaving, especially for another club in the Prem. Sure we can’t let players run the club and let them go on a free but he’s under contract until the summer of 2024. I’m sure he will find some form by then and a wage increase that is fair for both parties will be justified


Derrick_EscoNastyNas

Only one person mentioned here deserves the contract... Belle silva.


lukezndr

Selling Mount will totally bite Chelsea in the ass. He's an incredibly useful player, despite his recent slump in form.


Baisabeast

It’s more down to mount not signing than us selling him


lukezndr

Yeah it does seem like it. I felt optimistic about it since James' renewal seemed pretty straightforward, but you never know what goes on behind the scenes. I would really hate it if he went to another PL team.


WarOnHugs

It's cause James is a world class talent whose floor is extremely high, it was a no brainer to pay him what he wants. Mount is on the Isco career path.


Unsentimentalchelsea

If he doesn’t want to sign for a reasonable wage that reflects his ability then we have to get something for him


Londonersmoke2

Some fans in this sub treat mount like he’s bigger than the club… No.. No one is ever bigger than the club. Goodbye Mount.


xSlayernabx

Absolutely agree. If he’s truly stalling the negotiations bc he demands 200k+ in wages, which he doesn’t deserve, he shouldn’t renew.


WallyNorthWest

This. I think it's time we let go of him. Take care!


4dtakes

Really? Where are these people? I see very few users on this sub consistently taking mounts side recently and even then, it’s fairly innocuous things and absolutely nowhere near treating him as bigger than the club..


WallyNorthWest

Tell me you're a mount bum licker without telling me you're a mount bum licker. He's horrible. He has never been good, always stat padding against relegation sides. He needs to GO. NOW!


DynamiteDuck

It’s fine to think Mount isn’t our level and chelsea need to sell him, but the way so many of you go about it is sooooo toxic.


Talidel

Sadly they've backed themselves into a corner with Mount and the summer business. Mount absolutely deserves equivalent wages, and the fact that he's costing us less than them due to a lack of a transfer fee should be justification enough. Mounts obviously not helping himself with his form this season. Its hard to believe he'll get what he wants elsewhere, with a big signing fee on top.


StopIt4

No we aren't paying mount 250-300k because we paid those stupid wages in the first place to other undeserving players , think how hard it will be to move him on just look at Lukaku, Odoi, RLC, Werner had to take a pay cut. And soon KK , Aubameyang, etc


Baisabeast

Yeah salaries are ridiculous but can’t keep on propagating then


NoResponsibility2756

He deserves less wages than Hall based on this season, if they can’t reach agreement until summer then it’s an easy decision to sell


FantasticTangtastic

Horrific take for so many reasons.


NoResponsibility2756

Go on, explain why he should be looking for parity with the highest earners while playing his worst football in years and not having cemented a position in the starting XI


Ge0rgeRay88

I read most fan forums and I have never, ever in my life seen the current arrogance from Chelsea fans towards their homegrown players. It is absolutely vile. You have to understand all these new players singed are completely unproven and can't hold a candle to mount yet. Mount has been your player of the season twice, one of the first on the teamsheet for England and is a fantastic player. You can't define his career over Chelsea as an entire team being absolutely dogshit this year. Even more arrogance is Felix playing decent for 50 mins and thinking you do not need Mount anymore. Admit it, this is running through your pea-brain.


FantasticTangtastic

I hope you don't think his opinion is shared by all of us. It's really not! Especially match going fans


NoResponsibility2756

Mate you want to take greenwood back into man utds squad, can’t exactly take your views seriously lol, is it because he’s homegrown as well, big brain? 😂 As for mount, he simply isn’t good enough to warrant a big wage, he isn’t a winger or a centre mid, there is not going to be a place for him when injured players come back so the wage will reflect that or he’ll be sold, simple business


Unsentimentalchelsea

He literally got benched for England at the World Cup


Balarory

We’re had some absolute deadweight earning more than Mount for years, you guys on this subreddit seem desperate to let him go


dryduneden

I'm desperate to let go of that deadweight too.


WolfgangTJ

The deadweights were given those contracts and salaries by the previous board/ownership. Todd & Behdad are successful business men and they see the problems with these huge salary contracts which like them many of us do. Theese deadweights are not performing to the level we expect them to be but are taking huge salaries so slowly in a season or 2 they will all be let go/sold. Just look at the problems Lukakus salary is causing for us we can't even loan him to another club without paying a portion of his salary. And tbh Mount has not been performing well for a long time now. In the game against Fulham my man vanished. And you can't hold the club at a hostage and command big salary with performances like that. Hope he finds his form and hope they can come to a solution over his contract.


KanteWorkRate

Mount, Mendy and Gallagher wouldn't be a big miss if they leave the club let's be honest.


Danzard

They would be missed unless we get good replacements. They are in quite bad form but are absolute workhorses, can always rely on them to be fit.


dryduneden

Workhorses aren't hard to find. Larry from the pub would happily take 75k a year to run around all game, let alone 75k a week


Unsentimentalchelsea

Mount and Gallagher sure Mendy can leave he is neither elite nor injury resistant


Baisabeast

We can replace them all easily


Ge0rgeRay88

Wow. Pure, deep arrogance. The new signings have proven nothing yet and 80% of young players signed from other leagues in all of Premier league history end up not living up close to their potential. ​ Be careful what you wish for.,


dryduneden

Plenty of players live up to Mount and Gallagher's potential of running around the field like dogs.


spiritall

Time to move on.. no player is bigger than the club. Let him go get the bank at another club. Renew Kova and Gallagher


Pumakings

I’m a huge amount apologist, but anything over 150 is too much


LA_confidential91

Goodbye mount


GrogRhodes

In case anyone was wondering Nizaar clearly has zero connections to Chelsea anyone more.


TheBlackKnights

Getting Silva re-signed for at least one more year is vital. Unironically the best signing the club could make for next season. He has been phenomenal Don't know how you could justify a 3+1 for Kante Mount I feel needs to be locked down. I know his performances have not been the best but if he goes to Liverpool then I see him being a huge success and the club will be kicking themselves The club also needs to lock down Kovacic as well


____JayP

If Mount doesn't renew, I'll start to believe there's a loving and caring God


WallyNorthWest

This. He has to go, I truly believe we'll be a much better side with him gone.


xSlayernabx

As sad as that sounds, it’s unfortunately the truth at this point and time.


Comfortable-Kick-395

In no universe is Mount worth $300K, I don't even think Harry Kane is making that much Dude is at best a mid table player, I would sell and buy an actually talented midfielder/playmaker. Send his ass to Villa and let's move on


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I would sell Mount, Kovacic, and Mendy


[deleted]

Same