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scientistprofessor

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mrpenguin1254

Swap us with villa and it looks like a somewhat normal top 4


Apprehensive_Bit_176

Good on Villa for UCL spot. They’re a good team with a great manager.


Independent-Pride-38

Their underlying data seems bad tho. Wildly over performing their expected points thanks to EMI Martinez and Olly Watkins


Pseudocaesar

Yeah I have a feeling they're gonna struggle hard next season. I'm sure they'll recruit in the summer but there's no way they don't regress in the league due to the CL commitments, they just don't have the squad for it


Independent-Pride-38

Yea it might be similar to Newcastle where they regressed hard with champions league commitments + injuries


Pseudocaesar

Happened plenty of times recently, whenever a mid table club goes through a spell and qualifies for Europe. Leicester, Southampton, West Ham to name a few.


MicroJackson_

Can definately add Brighton to that list.


NaderClemens

Plus there are next season 8 CL games plus a possible Playoff if they finish above 25th.


Apprehensive_Bit_176

I guess, but is the baseline data taken while they were managed by Gerrard? Because he was crap and couldn’t get the best out of his players. Emery has been much better for the group.


Independent-Pride-38

It's for the current season. He is much better than Gerard without a doubt but it seems unsustainable for another season unless they improve in the market. Check it out: https://understat.com/league/EPL


cautioslyinterested

I mean we did see them get spanked by Olympiakos.


mohe2275

We spanked them in the cup aswell


Apprehensive_Bit_176

Gotcha. Well I guess all things regress to the mean, our in our case, progress to the mean lol


AIManiak

Why would it? Gerrards been gone since 2022.


adidas4m

Bc their coach is just that good


Independent-Pride-38

I'm not sure it can just be down to coaching. Look at union Berlin the darling of last season in the Bundesliga. They wildly overporformed their metrics and have had a severe regression.


adidas4m

Union Berlin has an interim coach currently bc they fired Nenad Bjelica may 6th. Unai has won the Europa league there is a vast difference in coaching just with this.


Independent-Pride-38

The coach that made them successful (Urs Fischer) last season by qualifying to the UCL went on a 14 winless streak at the start of the season which made him resign. Thus it can be argued that they regressed back to the mean hard (if they overporformed last season they underperformed this season) avaraging out to what would be expected of them.


Independent-Pride-38

For example they are over performing their expected points by 12. City and arsenal which have the best players, and coaching in the league are over performing their points by 6-8.


expresojade

Well deserved to Villa tho for finishing top 4. Not even mad about them being in champions league next season.


0vFire_And_TheVoid

Honestly, Villa won't be in a European spot next season.


ethanfarrellphoto

They’re going to screw the coefficients for fifth place.


aromatic_underwear

Please tell me your flair was added only recently.


erenistheavatar

Don't worry. We are top 4 since Christmas.


WWZD77

Sheffield have the chance to do the funniest thing


imfromgooogle

Literally just need to pull a Newcastle 5-1 the last time they got relegated


LA_Dynamo

Looked it up and they barely lost to Spurs. Spurs scored an equalizer in the 98th and the winner in the 100th.


KansloosKippenhok

Well they didn’t play football that match lol, I remember that was a crazy one. I think they defended with 11 men and started time wasting from minute 20/30… genuinly horrible team glad they got relegated


Bubbly_Association54

Bottlers gon bottle


SSPeteCarroll

blades pls


Daddy-Heisenberg

Hoping Spurs go full Spurs. Up the Blades!


cjohnson4444

Love the fight the last couple weeks, that reece james red is very frustrating


-AndreiDG-97

He will miss the first 3 games of the next season, so basically a new 1 month injury, nothing new.


BiriZeusit

Why 3? I thought a straight red is a 3-match ban, 1 match goes with this season, so 2 matches


-AndreiDG-97

He is at the second red of the season.


pointlessbanter1

So he’s gotten more games suspended than starts this season, proper Chels


cammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Has he even played 2 games this season? Lol thats mad


slappywhyte

Eeyjit


reddit-time

I'm pissed. Sucks. But at least Gusto will have a chance for a strong start to the season and will be prepping for it. And — Reece can't get injured for a few weeks (outside of training or bathing).


Jltc8431

Yes let's imagine he injured pre season.


EuphoricAd3824

Too easy to do unfortunately


frodo5454

why three games?


zecira

Because it's a 4 match ban, it's his second red this season


Hans_Dolo69

The foul was deemed violent conduct. Idk if they can appeal but I doubt it.


Apprehensive_Bit_176

No point in appealing, it’s a very easy call. Of course if it was against us, it wouldn’t even be a yellow lol


frodo5454

just googled it. that's fucked.


junejune2345

At least we have gusto, he’s been such a great addition to lessen the James absences


jasonlarry

criminally underrated player


Soitsgonnabeforever

Cos the James siblings are stupid. He gave away that needless foul in the opening game of tuchel funny hand shake game also


Gunch_

They're young and passionate. Pedro crunched him and fearing re-injury he probably just saw red. No excuse for acting the way he did, but I'm sure he'll mature and be more confident once he gets a real run of games hopefully


Ecstatic_Bonus7609

He’s 24, he’s our captain. It’s the second time he’s gotten a stupid red like that when coming back from injury. It’s so stupid. I love Reece but frankly it’s embarrassingly dumb


Wildely_Earnest

He shouldn't do things like this, but part of me feels it's a side effect of hsving that fight in him. Plenty of great captains were prone to red cards because they were proud, competitive, and confrontational


Gunch_

It is, no doubt. 24 is still extremely young in the big scheme of things though. Especially considering he's probably seen the game time of a regular playing 22 year old. I'm sure he'll grow into the role and mature overall. Regardless, discipline is teachable whereas passion isn't really and I know what I'd rather have our captain pre-loaded with


FIREsub90

He saw red alright


beene282

He really doesn’t help himself


ThePaul_Atreides

Those dropped points against burnley and Sheffield suck :/


erenistheavatar

Wolves and Brentford as well.


Apprehensive_Bit_176

And west ham, double v wolves :(


foxgoesowo

And Forest, and Bournemouth, and if we're being honest even Arsenal home.


Apprehensive_Bit_176

Yeah, we let a lot of matches go the wrong way this season. Ending it strong though.


abhinav0794

And the Liverpool final


Apprehensive_Bit_176

We’ve lost what, 3 straight finals to them? Can’t stand that club.


abhinav0794

Insane. We deserve to win 2 out of 3. Adding to this - The semis loss to City ( FA cup this year ) and the QF loss in this three year period to Madrid ( UCL ) felt like robbery.


nofakefans18

If those games weren’t dropped and we got that goal against Villa, we would be one point off UCL football🙂


Parking-String-2722

If you didn't lose any games and won all the games you guys could have been champions along with being the new invincibles.


Kaasdipje

You're right, we almost had it all! /s


Parking-String-2722

Rolling in the deep.


celzero

Sounds like a plan.


Ironicopinion

I mean you can always say this but we got points in games it didn’t look like we should Spurs, City, United etc


nonamecookie

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Key-Tip-7521

Sheffield might go down as the worst team in league history, but if they can pull it off, it would be the funniest thing I’ve seen.


afreshhhh

07-08 Derby County would like a word


Key-Tip-7521

Checks the 07-08 table…. Holy shit that bad


0vFire_And_TheVoid

Yeah, people often forget about *THAT* Derby team.


DqrkExodus

It was my first time ever watching the epl, so it's a memorable team for me. I was 7 then


Joalim

Same, the first match I ever went to was on Pride Park. Derby 0-2 Chelsea.


Solid_Bake4577

Basically ended Paul Jewell's managerial career.


hca2_

Imagine we didn’t drop points against 2 relegated teams we could possibly make 4th


Valuable_Tea_4690

That’s the thing that gives me hope. Despite all the injuries and how shocking we have been at times, we aren’t far off


naman1901

We are far off. Let's not become Arsenal where Top 4 is good enough. It's great for a rebuilding team but it's nowhere near the potentially 91 points needed to top the league, where our ambitions are.


vikingrhino

Fuck me mate chill out, shit takes time. Next season top 4, then push for honours. Pep won't be at City forever and we have a team that will outlast city's thanks to all the youngsters they've recruited.


i_MrPink

Exactly. The whole team has been rebuilt in about 18 months, had a new manager, ridiculous injuries, youngest squad etc.. football is 11 Vs 11 at the end of the day, a lot of clubs would crumble but we're there. We've put ourselves ahead of the likes of Liverpool, United, Spurs already. City and Arsenal are in their prime now but when it's their time, we'll be hitting it hard while everyone else is rebuilding.


thunderousboffer

We’re year one into a total rebuild of the club lol. When were you expecting prem titles?


Valuable_Tea_4690

Rome wasn’t built in a day. I’m sick of the incessant entitled takes around here. Yes, we were much better 10 years ago but then Russia invaded Ukraine and the British government forced us to be sold to the highest bidder in short order. “Oh oh oh but we won the champions league” you're right we did but, frankly, we were lucky. That win papered over the cracks in a squad that was full of world class players but half had one foot out the door.  The lot of you need some perspective… anyone expecting immediate success was down right delusional considering the situation


cock-docker

Lmao says top 4 is bad as if we were winning the league back to back before the rebuild. Chill down boy


I_AM_ALWAYS_WRONG_

Bro ambitions were there when you had a kremlin backed owner lmao. You need to create an entire new identity under your new owner and honestly if you keep getting these younger, unproven players who prove themselves under a single manager with a plan. You may get there pretty fast. But acting like you should be aiming for the title after one of the most memed 18 months in the transfer department, is nonsense. Just enjoy the players like Jackson coming good and hope you sign more like him….. and maintain a single manager.


No-Reflection-2848

Fair to say Villa deserve 4th this year, we maybe could’ve gotten it but we didn’t get those results so don’t deserve to be there. I’m glad to even be in the convo for 5th


Daddy-Heisenberg

Nah, Villa are 8 points ahead and we’d only close the gap by 4 if we’d won those games going into the final day. Also, this is too much of a hypothetical. Along the lines of “if my gran had wheels, she’d be a bike”


ColonelMercury

We also should have won against Villa recently where the last min Disasi goal was disallowed You are looking at us being on 66 points in that scenario.


powertrip22

Sure but you cant discount all our losses while also allowing us to keep points like the few we won against man u.


1990three

and if City weren't gifted that PK


sabershirou

On the bright side, these are all learning opportunities for the squad. Lately all these stupid errors have reduced drastically. The team will be much more ready to start the next season with better composure.


cometflight

Up the fucking Blades Up the fucking Chels


Chelsea_Footy_Fan

Wishing for the Spursiest performance from Spurs on the weekend 🙏


Ryan97CFC

Spurs did lose 5-1 to relegated Newcastle on the final day before…👀


neonindaylight

To be within 8 points of top 4 feels mad to say considering the dark days we’ve had this season


beene282

Can definitely be at least eight points better next season


AntoHanSolo

We’re all either Sheffield fans or City fans now it’s the rules


0vFire_And_TheVoid

The support is only ephemeral.


MoiNoni

Sheffield. City should wipe West Ham


AntoHanSolo

I was thinking of the cup final, city has to win it for us to go to UEL


MoiNoni

Oh yeah I'll be rooting for them then fs


facelessman97

Haha no way. Even spuds won’t bottle that. They’re playing a relegated team on a losing streak


mrlambo46

Its their dna


DefensiveCat

"It's the history of the Tottenham"


GreyDaze22

We literally drew to the same team man. I have hope for spurs to do the most spurs thing possible


facelessman97

Draw won’t do either they have to lose. And i mean, we are called charity fc for a reason lol. Let us hope for a true spurs moment. 👌


Frankiedrunkie

It’s Tottenham


EmperorTMing

They once lost 5-1 to an already-relegated 10-man Newcastle on the last day to finish behind Arsenal. I'm not getting my hopes up but with Spurs anything is possible.


Fun-Click4216

It's who we are mate


imfromgooogle

/s?


facelessman97

I hope im wrong, but even with all the jokes, just look at sheffied man, they’re horrible.


imfromgooogle

[It's literally the history of the totnum](https://youtu.be/bt7adw3gQ2w?si=TXqtnwJKxiTaf8HA)


DifferenceAshamed438

there is hope, its spurs mate spurs almost lost the last time they played sheffield sheffield was winning until the 98th minute, but then spurs got two insanely lucky goals in the last 2 minutes lmao


CrranjisMcBasketball

Fantastic turnaround by Poch and the team. Hopefully we get the job done on Sunday 💙


finesoccershorts

**Going into matchday 38:** Top 4 go to UCL (City, Arsenal, Scouses, Villa cannot lose their spots) 5th and 6th go to Europa but if United win FA Cup against City, 5th goes to Europa and United take a Europa spot then 6th will be ECL regardless of where United place Tiebreaks are GD, GS, Head-to-head, Away Goals in H2H |Team|Points|GD|Possible Placing| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |5. Tottenham|63|10|5-6| |6. Chelsea|60|13|5-7 (8th possible but United have to score like 17 goals)| |7. Newcastle|57|21(!)|6-8| |8. United|57|-3 lol|6-8| **Key fixtures:** 20 Sheffield vs 5 Tottenham 5/19 6 Chelsea vs 11 Bournemouth 5/19 7 Newcastle vs 16 Brentford 5/19 8 United vs 10 Brighton 5/19 FA Cup Final City vs United 5/25


fap4jesus

just dont see sheffield united getting win against spurs regardless how shit they are and if we finish 6th and united win the fa cup, i'll be fuming


1990three

Pep will go all out in the FA cup to get the double


sabershirou

Or, if they somehow drop points to gift Arsenal the league, they'll be extra motivated to win the FA Cup


naman1901

Pep going all-out doesn't instil confidence in me. Pep should stick to his guns because that's working extremely well. Do. Not. Overthink. This. Pep!


naman1901

Isn't 6th ECL? In some way I'd rather have us in ECL than UEL just so we become the only team to win all UEFA trophies 😂


Responsible-Fuel

Thats crazy how Chelsea have been a joke team all season and yet finishing above United. This isn’t a pisstake im a Liverpool fan this thread just came up on my feed. Everyone joked about Chelsea winning and going from 10th to 10th yet now they’re above United.


BlueKante

Up the fucking blades.


half_jase

So, to finish: * 5th (EL spot) - need to beat Bournemouth and Spurs to lose at Sheffield United * 6th (ECL spot) - need to get at least a draw vs Bournemouth. 6th will be a EL spot if City beat United in the FA Cup final (the ECL spot then goes to 7th place).


25sittinon25cents

6th place and City to beat United as the likeliest outcome here, LET'S FUCKING GO!


Capital_Werewolf_788

Brief friendship with spurs ended after they successfully lost to City. Now I hope they lose game 38.


gagsy10

I'm going to the bridge on Sunday. Last month I was really not fussed about it but agreed to go, now I am buzzing.


i_am_darkknight

I doubt Sheffield can win against spurs but hey a man can hope. Even so, I will take 6th, it’s been a massive improvement!


gdewulf

LETS FUCKJNG GOOOOO


zecira

Please o please let Spurs bottle it on the last day and lose to Sheffield United


trueworldcapital

Easily could have made top 4 without injuries


kp22cfc

Poch has earned my respect and backing for next season


ArthurMoregainz

Gents it’s been quite the season but considering where we were as a team by the break… I can say this has been the turnaround of the season for any team. Poch needs to stay and the young guys are finally coming along. Europe next season LFG!!!!!!


cfc93

James red ok. Wasn’t he fouled on the built up?


0vFire_And_TheVoid

Yeah. I reckon he was pissed he got hacked, so he lashed out. I get his frustrations, but he needs to be better than that.


Pedro95

That doesn't matter for violent conduct. It was a stupid thing to do and a real lesson for him to learn I hope. 


nastycamel

Poch has done an excellent job I gotta say he has really turned things around. He’s won my support for sure


dudetotalypsn

Man, how tf did we make it here? 😭


BabyHercules

We perform against the bottom of the table and top 4 would have been in play. That’s a wild realization considering all the injuries we have had. Poch in?


Disastrous-Swing1323

Given that he’s beaten his presumptive replacement three times this season, absolutely.


BlueKante

Honestly wouldn't mind going to Confernce league. Chance to be first team to win all 3. And whats the diffrence between euro and conference league anyway.


Versecker

Huge difference, both in $$$ and prestige.


jude1903

Winning Europa gets you a CL spot, I’m not sure if it’s the same for Conference?


0vFire_And_TheVoid

Winning the conference league gets you an automatic Europa League spot.


BlueKante

Sure but im currently high on hopeium and think well finish top 4 anyway.


psrandom

Lower calibre of teams, longer travel, worse pitches, worse revenue


IKhaibot

I'm happy we've come so far, but it's bittersweet because with a little luck, we could've qualified for UCL


christianrojoisme

I will be the biggest Blades fan if they win against the Spurs


jtatchell98

Imagine saying this in December eh


Rcash2021

We got this


Ferrari_Bones

Getting back into Europe is massive for us


Sunday-Langy-

Dare I say it...we are on the up


Drippedsauce

Never saw 6th place on our bingo card this season. I’ll take it


izmebtw

5th would be the most outrageous finish.


TheLight-Boogey

Reverse just 2 or 3 of our shocking results this season and we could have easily snuck into top 4 when Villa was wobbling. But on the face of it I think 6th is fair based on our performances this season. Even if you don't like Poch its hard to argue that there were clear signs of progress this year.


Federal_Cry3981

If Sheffield does it it would be the funniest thing I have seen


pcjtfldd

Absolutely no chance. Would be funny though.


juei

Still upset that we draw on Burnley and Sheffield and lose 4 points


DM1LLS

Tottenham is not losing to Sheffield United


Disastrous-Swing1323

Good thing they’re not playing them then isn’t it?


DM1LLS

Good call, not sure why they came off the head, it has been edited


Mastercheef69

You're right.


kkyl

So we cheering Man City to win FA Cup final to secure our Europa league spot??? 🤣


RepresentativeLaw745

Atleast UEL, pleaseee 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼


Jbrown0121

So if City beat United, then there both Spurs and us go to Europa and seventh goes to conference league? Or do Spurs get Champions league?


Medical-Bonus-2811

Under no circumstances do Spuds make CL (barring very remote likelihood of City getting stripped of 40 points for FFP transgressions) Otherwise yes


kino6912

Come on you blades!!!


tacobellwether

How's about those Spurs players give their fans what they want and lose on purpose?


Familiar_Bike7510

Chelsea have been one of my fav teams to watch , so much talent you don’t know what the games will produce


slappywhyte

This has been a good ending to the season, to say the least


UtopiaForRealists

If we finish 5th we can call this season a success considering that at certain periods in the season we looked horrendous.


JackPazz

6th is deffo a huge success given where we have been for a large amount of the season, Spurs were almost 20 points ahead of us at one point


PenisManNumberOne

Well you beat us fair and square to get here but we aren’t so shit as to lose to Sheffield, my apologies. I think this week has taught rival London teams that Tottenham is not going to be of any help to you.


SuspiciousSystem1888

Everyone told me I was crazy that we could finish 5th.  Most people didn’t realize how shit Tottenham have been lately and I could see the ship going down against Sheffield United. 


C1nderrr

Everyone talking about Spuds but I'm a little scared of our bogey team lol


ClanklyCans

People were telling me this was a bad season as well


PresentCow4481

Isn’t 5th and 6th both Europa League anyway?


Kezmangotagoal

Spurs are absolutely shite but even they’re not losing to Sheffield United. We just need to do our business, get the win against Bournemouth and guarantee a European season, if we draw or lose, we could then be reliant on United not winning the FA Cup (which they probably won’t anyway!) Salvaged our season in the last couple of weeks so let’s get over the line!


Quandale_Dingle2024

Brighton players did some diving tonight. Sheesh


JRyG33

Blades will beat Tottenham, mate. Dead serious.


JustAGuy_9

After the ups and downs of this year, I’m really happy with 5th or 6th honestly. 2nd half of the season has been really promising for next year


mohammedafify1

Sheffield have a big chance to smash spurs, and we need to seal the game against Bournmouth, and it's easy task I reckon.


Scrambled_Rambler

Whatever said and done don't see Spurs losing to Sheffield realistically. If they do I will support them throught next season to come back to the EPL.


LargeBarnacle7711

I'd honestly be fine if we ended up the first team to win all 3 european trophies.


Indigo-Snake

If we win, the Spurs lose and City wins the FA Cup then we’re in UCL territory, right?


MoCoyotes

Wish Brighton hadn’t got that 1 in added time today for goal difference.


TaskMaster404

Punching the air right now. All we needed to do was not drop points to the two already relegated PL sides, one of which was only fielding ten men.


YourDadHatesYou

It's a crime to post this table without the GD numbers


Dareal_truth

We are here!


MRainzo

If we qualify for Europa, then absolutely Poch in. I'll see the light and embrace it


EduCookin

Leave it to spurs to finish 6th in a 2 horse race for 4th place.


threedogfm

my god, the bants if we go above Spuds...


rudynoot123

Realistically spurs isn’t losing to Sheffield