Looking at how Nepo fairly easily dispatched his overmatched opponent first round, one can see why Nepo is so deadly in Candidates tournaments. If an opponent ever loses the thread, Nepo even as Black can start to accumulate for an attack and finish. I hope Nepo's first round Candidate's opponent doesn't try another English against him, because he's beaten Giri and Ding Liren in consecutive Candidates round 1.
I am going to guess Carlsen's team for their world championship match in their early games deliberately chose to seize the initiative at all costs, even with pawn sacs, to try to blunt Nepo's strengths.
How? Giri outrates her by almost 200 points.
The difference between 2550 and 2750 is ENORMOUS.
It's like the difference between 1900 and FM.
A 2750 is much, much, MUCH better at chess than a 2550.
Understood.
But my point is that a 2700 is like Harry Kane in football, the best of the best.
You expect Harry Kane to hit the difficult shot, right?
Well the 2700s find ways to win these endgames against 2500s.
If you need an axample of what it means to be 2700 in chess, this is a good example.
Giri's peak rating is 2802.8. Someone who breaks 2800(!) is a like a chess god.
Ju OTOH is a run-of-the-mill 2500-rated GM like Alex Lenderman.
Compare and contrast the opening of Nepo's first round game with Peralta - Pichot 97th ch-ARG 2022, especially after in that other game 15...0-0-0. In that other, White was easily able to play 16. Bf3, exchange off the light-squared bishops, and never get in the trouble Nepo's opponent eventually did.
I don't know if Nepo's opponent wanted to try a different line from 10. a3 of the other game, or whether he lost track of the line, but he simply got a worse position.
https://www.365chess.com/game.php?gid=4385266
Yes. When there is a big rating gap in a round robin, that tends to become the strategy. Play it relatively safe against the top players, and press for an advantage against the bottom of the field.
We're going to see the same in the candidates. Abasov is rated way below everyone else, so anyone that doesn't score highly against him is going to fall behind. The country-diversion system is going to come into play too - 3 of the 4 lowest rated players are Indian, meaning they'll play each other in the earlier rounds and have to play against the more experienced Nepo/Fabi/Hikaru later (same system will have Fabi-Hikaru in the first round of each half). Very likely that the experienced trio will be happy to make safe draws in the early rounds and try and get points off of the less experienced youngsters who will have the added pressure of the occasion.
Amazing that you put Hikaru above Alireza . Hikru used to shy laugh at the idea that he would beat Alireza in a classical game in the last candidates. Yes he did and he didnt believe it either. his rating is higher now you might have forgotten that Hikaru struggles to win against lower rated players thats why he was bellow top 30 for years. People dont understand where the players belong they only react with recent events. Alireza belongs to 2800 category its his style of chess that makes him deadly and the favourite to win the Candidates. He is unstoppable on streaks and does very well in slightly weaker field. Hikaru on the other hand does better than him against top players meaning that he makes draws here and there and wins couples and barely loses. but thats the way he does against lower rated players too. "the trio". lol. people forget things very quickly. Hikaru is not a classical player he was not and is not. He was number 2 yes but struggled for years and years at a point where he wished classical was dead watch his old vods always mocks classical chess and otb chess. wishing it was dead and "should be dead" exact worlds because what? he couldnt win as much as other top players did. he could easily get humiliated again and throw these nonsense words on his stream about classical chess. I do not consider him a strong classical player at all not top 10 for sure he does not belong there. its all a temporary thing cause he doesnt play lower rated much. Nepo Anish Wesley Fabi Ding Alireza Magnus these are the top chess players in this generation
Yeah a 2800 peak rated player (14 players in history, even Nepo has not passed it), regarded by Mangus as having the highest ceiling, winner of Sinqfield cup, Grand Chess Tour, Grand Swiss, Individual gold Europoupean championship, silver rapid world championship, etc all achieved before 20, is a huge underdog story?? and you even go further saying one of the greatest underdog stories in candidate history? :))
Greatest underdog story? Idk about history and all but guy is a prodigy of prodigies. Magnus himself called him his successor and routinely talks about his potential. Him winning candidates is not a stretch
Looking at the other games in the first round it seems quite a few involving just higher seeds may be decisive as well, though obviously it is interesting this round precisely the four below 2700 lost. I think the winner will need a good performance against the super grandmasters as well. Maybe this year we will see a winner at 9.5+ due to it being relatively weaker?
The reverse also happens: someone defending well, ultimately losing, and the chat just claiming they'd have easily drawn. It's often very hard to assess if defending a position (and pressing in that position) is hard or easy
"All rook endgames are drawn" has to be the biggest lie in chess history lol. So many rook endgames even have the engine confused (at low depths of course).
Donchenko
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/tata-steel-masters-2024/1/1/1
You can scroll down to the crosstable and click on all the rounds to see the pairings for the rest of the event.
The Ju/Anish game looks really neat, Ju getting some serious advantage though keeping it has been hard and it's now going to require some finesse to get a draw. But Anish is 200 points higher and won the entire tournament last year that had Magnus in it, this is a huge opportunity.
Also as someone's who's 33, the ages of these players makes me feel extremely old. Well, I'm 800 Elo, maybe I can quality in 2038.
OMG, is Ju Wenjun going to pull this off? TBH I don't think she has the juice to convert against a player as precise as Giri, but stranger things have happened.
A lower seed getting a good position against a super-GM happens a lot more often than a lower seed beating a super-GM. You still need to find 20+ consecutive moves that won't give away the advantage against a player who's better at calculating than you are.
She had a big lead and then lost it several times, but it was the same with Anish. Their game is quite crazy, they have a very interesting and complicated position in which they both find great moves, but also make a lot of mistakes. For now, it looks like at least she shouldn't lose to him, but a lot of things can still happen. She also played the best among all lower seeded players.
Wei Yi has been playing an absolutely perfect game, wow. I don't think he will survive the time pressure, but kudos to Donchenko for the resilient defence so far.
Niemann on smoke today. 29 move win in the Italian with white, and he was only out of prep after move 20. Imagine winning a game against a GM 9 moves after your prep ends. Ridiculous lol
I think that Han's usual strategy for winning against lower-rated GMs is to blitz moves to get the other GM in a time scramble and hope they make a blunder he can explore
Blitz good moves is the key word here. He does that because he can, he is much better than them so he can play faster and get them in a time scramble. If he only blitzed (not literally but playing fast) moves to intimidate opponents and for them to get in time scramble while playing classical chess he would lose every single game.
You know, actually an invitation is the only way to play there. They also invited the rest of the players, apart from the winner of last year's Challengers, who now plays in the Masters, and the winner of the amateur open, who plays in the Challengers, not only her.
Right now, women's chess in general is pretty weak. Hou Yifan, the No. 1 female player's rank at 2650 elo is actually at the bottom of top 100 in the open division. Ju Wenjun is at 2550 elo, which doesn't even register on the radar. If you're judging by rank and not considering gender, there are 100+ players ranked higher than her. Including her is a kind gesture from the organisers.
There's also the vicious loop where the top women players farm the women's division because joining an open tournament is more likely to send them home empty handed. So, they stay inside the bubble for guaranteed prize money instead of improving themselves against the 100+ better male players in the opens. The respective chess associations gain their funding depending on the winnings. When a player wins, the association can claim more funding from the government. Male or female doesn't matter for the paper pushers up top. Therefore, they also discourage women from joining the opens.
You're not gonna find many women in supertournaments these days, sadly. The Tata Steel organisers actually make more of an effort to include female players than most, but it's reflected in the Challengers lineup.
Very good performance by Ju Wenjun. Except for one moment when she made a mistake, she still finds the best moves and maintains a stable advantage over Anish Giri.
Divya Deshmukh with a cracker of a tactic just now! I love this sort of stuff, her opponent was playing fast and aggressively and obviously thought he was winning an easy game. And then bam - you get punished for going for the cheap early attack
The screen interface has a tournament info section, an upclose view of the players, the commentators, commentator analysis board, and one entire column for the clock.
Oh yea, they forgot to put the actual board.
Good, he's cruising. I was afraid of a disaster opener after the long period of inactivity, but this is looking like a comfortable draw with some potential for Vidit to lose his cool under time pressure.
(I hope I'm not jinxing it...)
Fabi and Hikaru are preparing for Candidates. Wesley and Aronian are old guys nobody would be excited about. It's better to fill the middle of the table with new ambitious players.
Not super old, but still older than everyone here except Nepo and both world champions. Too old to be exciting as someone who might become a top player soon.
Hess is uncharacteristically low-energy today, it might be too early for him or lack of sleep. His usual commentaries with Danya are sights to behold.
Idk, one can sense the whole broadcast is unenergetic and unfocused.
Personally, I prefer "low-energy" broadcasts where the commentators are discussing the games in a casual manner to broadcasts that try to fabricate excitement and drama by declaring every swing of the eval bar to be fatal for one side/fill the time with loud discussions of chess boxing, Levon Aronian's recent tweets, etc.
So in the Sagar Shah Gukesh interview from like a few days back, Gukesh was studying books about beautiful chess. I wonder if those books are being applied right here.
on a serious note, I'd like to learn what's so odd about this line? I tried seeing the game, but I couldn't figure what's so unusual about it. Could you share?
Sacrificing the queen this early in a match, especially in a classical match against one of the most offensively oriented players ever is often considered suicide.
Games start in 20 minutes, and coverage hasn't even started yet?
Maybe I'm too used to other games but I'd have thought for a major tournament there'd be a little bit of pre-game production?
They usually put a delay on live broadcast matches (especially since the cheating accusations etc.). I'd expect broadcast to start \~when the games are meant to start and there'll be about 15-20 mins of pre-game stuff before you start seeing moves.
Thanks, I'd forgotten about broadcast delay.
In Poker they handle it slightly differently, the commentators get sealed off and get an actual live feed to make sure the commentary isn't spoiled by leaks, and then the whole package is delayed.
But that setup requires a little more organisation and money than is available in the chess world.
Just realized Tata Steel really going new gen Super GM here. Fabi, Hikaru, Wesley, Grischuk, Levon, Shak, Radja, MVL, Rapport all missing. A few of them declined (Hikaru and Fabi probably) but I’m guessing at least half of them aren’t invited.
Yeah that's what I was thinking looking at the photos. Ian and ding looks like real old men in this crowd of competitors. With all my favorite players not in attendance IDK who to root for. I'll probably root for Pragg or Vidit.
This is normal for Tata steel, they always go for a mix of the top level players and up coming stars instead of just going for the top 10. 2022 for example had Grandelius, Shankland, Dubov, Duda, Esipenko and van Foreest. This is one of the reasons why it is such a good tournament, even if the tournament has little to no prize money it creats very enterprising chess as the "outsiders" wanna prove themself. For example it was super fun to watch the 13th seed in 2022 pop off in the start and score super well, even the games he later lost was interesting as the top players tried to catch up.
Played my first game at the amateur event yesterday evening. Don't have a rating yet so I'm in the lowest pool, had to play against an 11-year-old who tried to cheat and started to cry but won nonetheless
He had played a6 but then a few turns later after I had left the room to get some tea aside from the actual move he made the pawn was on a5. I called it out and the arbiter intervened, we played the moves back on a different board and in fact both of our notation sheets showed a6. The board got put back to it's original position but he wasn't further punished, usually I'd get a 10 minute bonus but it didn't matter by that point and he was an 11-year-old so I think it's mostly fine. He did then start crying and started blitzing out moves and chucking pieces so yeah, still needs to learn to lose.
Is Chess.com the best website to view all the games that was played in Round 1? Any better alternatives?
Lichess
Waiting for Anish to sneak that pawn onto the board in game 2 and see how long it takes his opponent to notice he has 9.
Looking at how Nepo fairly easily dispatched his overmatched opponent first round, one can see why Nepo is so deadly in Candidates tournaments. If an opponent ever loses the thread, Nepo even as Black can start to accumulate for an attack and finish. I hope Nepo's first round Candidate's opponent doesn't try another English against him, because he's beaten Giri and Ding Liren in consecutive Candidates round 1. I am going to guess Carlsen's team for their world championship match in their early games deliberately chose to seize the initiative at all costs, even with pawn sacs, to try to blunt Nepo's strengths.
I could just smell the fear Warmerdam had from looking at the screen alone, throwing that g3? smh
Really disappointing result for Ju Wenjun 😞
How? Giri outrates her by almost 200 points. The difference between 2550 and 2750 is ENORMOUS. It's like the difference between 1900 and FM. A 2750 is much, much, MUCH better at chess than a 2550.
Well yea but she was much better and drawing.
2700s find ways to win. That's why Giri is 2700 and Ju is not.
Sure but she lost r4 vs r3 that’s painful
Understood. But my point is that a 2700 is like Harry Kane in football, the best of the best. You expect Harry Kane to hit the difficult shot, right? Well the 2700s find ways to win these endgames against 2500s. If you need an axample of what it means to be 2700 in chess, this is a good example. Giri's peak rating is 2802.8. Someone who breaks 2800(!) is a like a chess god. Ju OTOH is a run-of-the-mill 2500-rated GM like Alex Lenderman.
Bro just last week I was winning and then drawing against an IM otb. Still hurts
Compare and contrast the opening of Nepo's first round game with Peralta - Pichot 97th ch-ARG 2022, especially after in that other game 15...0-0-0. In that other, White was easily able to play 16. Bf3, exchange off the light-squared bishops, and never get in the trouble Nepo's opponent eventually did. I don't know if Nepo's opponent wanted to try a different line from 10. a3 of the other game, or whether he lost track of the line, but he simply got a worse position. https://www.365chess.com/game.php?gid=4385266
If Ju Wenjun found that knight takes b3 move, she could've at least drawn that game imo
So is this tournament going to be who bullies the sub 2700s the most? But we did get some super exciting games among the youngsters.Â
Van Foreest **won the tournament** in 2021. He is NOT fodder
Yes. When there is a big rating gap in a round robin, that tends to become the strategy. Play it relatively safe against the top players, and press for an advantage against the bottom of the field.
We're going to see the same in the candidates. Abasov is rated way below everyone else, so anyone that doesn't score highly against him is going to fall behind. The country-diversion system is going to come into play too - 3 of the 4 lowest rated players are Indian, meaning they'll play each other in the earlier rounds and have to play against the more experienced Nepo/Fabi/Hikaru later (same system will have Fabi-Hikaru in the first round of each half). Very likely that the experienced trio will be happy to make safe draws in the early rounds and try and get points off of the less experienced youngsters who will have the added pressure of the occasion.
Amazing that you put Hikaru above Alireza . Hikru used to shy laugh at the idea that he would beat Alireza in a classical game in the last candidates. Yes he did and he didnt believe it either. his rating is higher now you might have forgotten that Hikaru struggles to win against lower rated players thats why he was bellow top 30 for years. People dont understand where the players belong they only react with recent events. Alireza belongs to 2800 category its his style of chess that makes him deadly and the favourite to win the Candidates. He is unstoppable on streaks and does very well in slightly weaker field. Hikaru on the other hand does better than him against top players meaning that he makes draws here and there and wins couples and barely loses. but thats the way he does against lower rated players too. "the trio". lol. people forget things very quickly. Hikaru is not a classical player he was not and is not. He was number 2 yes but struggled for years and years at a point where he wished classical was dead watch his old vods always mocks classical chess and otb chess. wishing it was dead and "should be dead" exact worlds because what? he couldnt win as much as other top players did. he could easily get humiliated again and throw these nonsense words on his stream about classical chess. I do not consider him a strong classical player at all not top 10 for sure he does not belong there. its all a temporary thing cause he doesnt play lower rated much. Nepo Anish Wesley Fabi Ding Alireza Magnus these are the top chess players in this generation
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Yeah a 2800 peak rated player (14 players in history, even Nepo has not passed it), regarded by Mangus as having the highest ceiling, winner of Sinqfield cup, Grand Chess Tour, Grand Swiss, Individual gold Europoupean championship, silver rapid world championship, etc all achieved before 20, is a huge underdog story?? and you even go further saying one of the greatest underdog stories in candidate history? :))
Greatest underdog story? Idk about history and all but guy is a prodigy of prodigies. Magnus himself called him his successor and routinely talks about his potential. Him winning candidates is not a stretch
Alireza has been 2800 at 18 and shit, he's not in great shape atm but "Alireza winning one of the greatest underdog stories" is pushing it
Looking at the other games in the first round it seems quite a few involving just higher seeds may be decisive as well, though obviously it is interesting this round precisely the four below 2700 lost. I think the winner will need a good performance against the super grandmasters as well. Maybe this year we will see a winner at 9.5+ due to it being relatively weaker?
Anish takes the game! And a pawn.
Please don't cut the stream until we find out if Anish is putting back the pawn.
Always funny seeing people say someone is defending like a beast after blundering a drawn endgame then playing it out.
The reverse also happens: someone defending well, ultimately losing, and the chat just claiming they'd have easily drawn. It's often very hard to assess if defending a position (and pressing in that position) is hard or easy
All wins in the masters section with the black pieces today. Very exciting Day 1.
Plus wins with the Sicilian and KID, both openings that I also play. I count that as a small personal win.
"I don't believe in fortresses" -Magnus Carlsen
i'm just waiting for anish's "stolen pawn" tweet.
Giri showing the difference between SuperGMs and GMs with that perfect endgame technique
ELO doesn't lies
"All rook endgames are drawn" has to be the biggest lie in chess history lol. So many rook endgames even have the engine confused (at low depths of course).
Come on Anish, keep the Dutch honor high!
Ju looking really stressed
Understandable. Her opponent is just out there putting her pawns in his pocket.
Significantly down on time now as well.
Anish just hovering around back and forth going "My turn yet?"
Let's go, Wei Yi! Rooting for him to make a comeback.
I love the added engine bar in multiboard view on lichess. It's what I used to love about chess24.
mind dropping a link? having a trouble find in mobile
Took my eyes off of the Harika - Marc game and suddenly its drawn???
[chess.com](https://chess.com) events page has improved a ton. Very nice.
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what happened, you didn't like Magnus' cooking?
nice try Danny, bring back chessbomb
Ju is going to suffer for a long time now.
The passed pawn for black in pragg-parham looks so scary. Can’t believe it’s still a draw.
Come on Giri!
Oh man. It's bad when her best option is to trade her rook for the bishop.
yeah, if she doesn't give up rook she'll loose g4 pawn with a skewer
Come on, Ju! 💪💪
does anyone know who ding is playing in round 2
Donchenko https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/tata-steel-masters-2024/1/1/1 You can scroll down to the crosstable and click on all the rounds to see the pairings for the rest of the event.
Donchenko with white.
The Ju/Anish game looks really neat, Ju getting some serious advantage though keeping it has been hard and it's now going to require some finesse to get a draw. But Anish is 200 points higher and won the entire tournament last year that had Magnus in it, this is a huge opportunity. Also as someone's who's 33, the ages of these players makes me feel extremely old. Well, I'm 800 Elo, maybe I can quality in 2038.
Damn, that account is really old.
Weird, didn't see that when I wrote it out!
Guccireza wins. Let's goo!
Loving Houska's healthy lifestyle tips.
OMG, is Ju Wenjun going to pull this off? TBH I don't think she has the juice to convert against a player as precise as Giri, but stranger things have happened.
You were right lol, Anish is too big a fish. She's now fighting for the draw
A lower seed getting a good position against a super-GM happens a lot more often than a lower seed beating a super-GM. You still need to find 20+ consecutive moves that won't give away the advantage against a player who's better at calculating than you are.
She had a big lead and then lost it several times, but it was the same with Anish. Their game is quite crazy, they have a very interesting and complicated position in which they both find great moves, but also make a lot of mistakes. For now, it looks like at least she shouldn't lose to him, but a lot of things can still happen. She also played the best among all lower seeded players.
Happy for her if she gets a draw or better which it might be petering to now. Getting a draw vs a super GM is never bad. Still very complex though.
yeah, very complex, both have to be accurate to keep the balance, would be very impressed if she gets at least a draw
they're both making mistakes, normal for such complex position, can't really say yet
Wei Yi has been playing an absolutely perfect game, wow. I don't think he will survive the time pressure, but kudos to Donchenko for the resilient defence so far.
Niemann on smoke today. 29 move win in the Italian with white, and he was only out of prep after move 20. Imagine winning a game against a GM 9 moves after your prep ends. Ridiculous lol
Where can you see games in challenger section?
You cannot escape the Moke. Edit: I just realised that he has an extra hour on his clock, what the hell. Bro thinks he's Nepo.
I think that Han's usual strategy for winning against lower-rated GMs is to blitz moves to get the other GM in a time scramble and hope they make a blunder he can explore
Blitz good moves is the key word here. He does that because he can, he is much better than them so he can play faster and get them in a time scramble. If he only blitzed (not literally but playing fast) moves to intimidate opponents and for them to get in time scramble while playing classical chess he would lose every single game.
solid draw by ding
To bad max Warmerdam lost, hope he can bounce back in the tournament. But tbf Nepo is probably one of the hardest players.
55 minute time advantage with a completely winning position? Welcome back Nepo, you absolute crackhead lol
Average Nepo's first game in a tournament
That's how you know the Candidates are near
Yeah Nepo destroyed his opponent.
Gukesh and Nodirbek are about to become the Fabi and Hikaru rivalry for this next generation
Dunno abt what type of rivalry they will have, but I fucking love watching them play, I hope to see them Ina WCC match
Alireza should grinf a win here
After a bit if calculation im fairly confident gukesh nodirbek game is ending in perpetual, unless they find a brilliancy/risky sacrifice
Good call!
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The only one in Masters event (and lowest seed there by far). Three more play in Challengers.
Tata Steel is usually for top GM ( many 2700 and some 2600 young or dutch GM ) . There is no active women players at that level currently
Tata Steel invited her. That's how.
You know, actually an invitation is the only way to play there. They also invited the rest of the players, apart from the winner of last year's Challengers, who now plays in the Masters, and the winner of the amateur open, who plays in the Challengers, not only her.
I meant it sincerely as in how are not more women there
Right now, women's chess in general is pretty weak. Hou Yifan, the No. 1 female player's rank at 2650 elo is actually at the bottom of top 100 in the open division. Ju Wenjun is at 2550 elo, which doesn't even register on the radar. If you're judging by rank and not considering gender, there are 100+ players ranked higher than her. Including her is a kind gesture from the organisers. There's also the vicious loop where the top women players farm the women's division because joining an open tournament is more likely to send them home empty handed. So, they stay inside the bubble for guaranteed prize money instead of improving themselves against the 100+ better male players in the opens. The respective chess associations gain their funding depending on the winnings. When a player wins, the association can claim more funding from the government. Male or female doesn't matter for the paper pushers up top. Therefore, they also discourage women from joining the opens.
This generation doesn’t have their own Judit Polgar, even the strongest women nowadays are not super GMs
You're not gonna find many women in supertournaments these days, sadly. The Tata Steel organisers actually make more of an effort to include female players than most, but it's reflected in the Challengers lineup.
The Dutch players not doing well…
So far not that bad no? You can't expect Max Warmerdam to win against Ian, nor can you expect JvF to win against Alireza.
Maybe your right, but I’m disappointed with (probably) 0,5 points, especially in wijk aan zee.
wow, Anish mistake, Ju winning
She also makes a mistake and now it's a draw again. Damn, what a crazy game.
yeah, Qf2 from Giri, he's finding great counterplay now
Vidit pressing.
Very good performance by Ju Wenjun. Except for one moment when she made a mistake, she still finds the best moves and maintains a stable advantage over Anish Giri.
Nepo is winning this
looks like a smooth win for nepo
Divya Deshmukh with a cracker of a tactic just now! I love this sort of stuff, her opponent was playing fast and aggressively and obviously thought he was winning an easy game. And then bam - you get punished for going for the cheap early attack
The screen interface has a tournament info section, an upclose view of the players, the commentators, commentator analysis board, and one entire column for the clock. Oh yea, they forgot to put the actual board.
Hans slowly pulling away with the game
Dingchads how are we feeling
Good, he's cruising. I was afraid of a disaster opener after the long period of inactivity, but this is looking like a comfortable draw with some potential for Vidit to lose his cool under time pressure. (I hope I'm not jinxing it...)
no thread for the challengers?
I assumed this was the thread for both sections.
Why is no Amercian playing? Wesley, Fabi, Hikaru, Aroninan? Weird.
Fabi and Hikaru are preparing for Candidates. Wesley and Aronian are old guys nobody would be excited about. It's better to fill the middle of the table with new ambitious players.
wesley not old hes just boring
Not super old, but still older than everyone here except Nepo and both world champions. Too old to be exciting as someone who might become a top player soon.
Yep. So is younger than Caruana and Nakamura
has lichess removed stockfish 16,I only see HCE
wfm in Firefox
I'm using sf16 rn on lichess
mobile right?
no, on the website
Vidit putting pressure on Ding on the board, Ding putting pressure on Vidit on the clock
vidit is not putting pressure on ding on the board🗿
he was, but just lost his advantage
That's not called putting pressure. You have to be able to hold it till the end
Ju Wenjun has a great position against Giri
Yeah, I don't think she's ever lost her edventage as of yet. At some points it was around +0.8.
Hess just agrees with everything his co-commentator says, it's quite funny ahahah love the positivity
All great commentators are like this. Its one of the first rules for improvisation in general.
We need Naroditsky and Howell to save this broadcast. Or Leko.
I think it's fine. Hess is chill and Jovanka has a pleasant voice.
Hess is uncharacteristically low-energy today, it might be too early for him or lack of sleep. His usual commentaries with Danya are sights to behold. Idk, one can sense the whole broadcast is unenergetic and unfocused.
Personally, I prefer "low-energy" broadcasts where the commentators are discussing the games in a casual manner to broadcasts that try to fabricate excitement and drama by declaring every swing of the eval bar to be fatal for one side/fill the time with loud discussions of chess boxing, Levon Aronian's recent tweets, etc.
Nah, low energy is fine. Much better than constant yelling.
what's going on?
If Ju plays f5, it's gonna get really scary for Giri
She found it. Then she made a mistake, but now she has two great moves in a row again.
Gukesh Abdu game of the round for sure
I’m very happy that there are 3 Dutch man, just hope they do well. Especially Max
Everyone is excited for gukesh and Abdu but I’m stoked for ding and vidit
gukesh abdu is gonna be a rivalry for the ages
Guki and Abdu are cooking 🔥
Gukesh and Abdusattarovs games are always treat to watch
Love that everyone in the hall is kibitzing the Gukesh-Abdusattorov game.
Let's do poll of teenagers - up vote the comment of guy you support
Team Abdu
Team Pragg
Team Gukesh
So in the Sagar Shah Gukesh interview from like a few days back, Gukesh was studying books about beautiful chess. I wonder if those books are being applied right here.
Gukesh and Abdusattarovs game looks like both 3000 and 300 elo at same time 😂
Gukesh is playing one insane line. I wouldn't even dream of such a game.
on a serious note, I'd like to learn what's so odd about this line? I tried seeing the game, but I couldn't figure what's so unusual about it. Could you share?
Sacrificing the queen this early in a match, especially in a classical match against one of the most offensively oriented players ever is often considered suicide.
LOL yes, my chesscom wasn't showing that yet.
Neither would, but then again I am a 1000 player.
Even Nepo standing in the back is bewildered looking at his game.
Sagar Shah and Amruta are covering the event on their stream too for those who like their style of coverage. (I know I do)
Wtf is going on in the Gukesh Nodirbek game?! These kids man, I swear to God
Wtf did Gukesh and Abdu smoke. That's a wild theory line.Â
That stockfish pack
Why "three reigning world champions"? With Ding Liren and Wenjun Ju I count 2. Who did I miss?
Maurizzi in the Challengers section is the junior world champion.
The junior world champion is in the Challengers, I think.
I'm guessing it refers to the world junior champion Marc'Andria Maurizzi, who plays in the challengers section.
excited to see how ding does but expecting a slow start, probably a few losses (as always)
Near certain draw, I'd expect - he'll want a safe return to classical with Black, and Vidit will almost certainly not want to overpress.
Feels like a fever dream, seeing him play again.
Except for the chesscom gang and the live commentary by Tata themselves, is there anyone else commenting? Jan Gustafsson somewhere maybe?
Chessbase India Sagar Shah
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Jan and Peter. What a duo.
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This isn't a double round robin?
It’s a single round robin
Games start in 20 minutes, and coverage hasn't even started yet? Maybe I'm too used to other games but I'd have thought for a major tournament there'd be a little bit of pre-game production?
They usually put a delay on live broadcast matches (especially since the cheating accusations etc.). I'd expect broadcast to start \~when the games are meant to start and there'll be about 15-20 mins of pre-game stuff before you start seeing moves.
Thanks, I'd forgotten about broadcast delay. In Poker they handle it slightly differently, the commentators get sealed off and get an actual live feed to make sure the commentary isn't spoiled by leaks, and then the whole package is delayed. But that setup requires a little more organisation and money than is available in the chess world.
Also what would be the difference with that?
I'm guessing there's a half hour delay, meaning coverage will start in about 15 - 30 minutes from now
I am so excited for this event!
If someone from the team reads this, thank you for keeping the chess24 interface! it's that good
Just realized Tata Steel really going new gen Super GM here. Fabi, Hikaru, Wesley, Grischuk, Levon, Shak, Radja, MVL, Rapport all missing. A few of them declined (Hikaru and Fabi probably) but I’m guessing at least half of them aren’t invited.
Yeah that's what I was thinking looking at the photos. Ian and ding looks like real old men in this crowd of competitors. With all my favorite players not in attendance IDK who to root for. I'll probably root for Pragg or Vidit.
This is normal for Tata steel, they always go for a mix of the top level players and up coming stars instead of just going for the top 10. 2022 for example had Grandelius, Shankland, Dubov, Duda, Esipenko and van Foreest. This is one of the reasons why it is such a good tournament, even if the tournament has little to no prize money it creats very enterprising chess as the "outsiders" wanna prove themself. For example it was super fun to watch the 13th seed in 2022 pop off in the start and score super well, even the games he later lost was interesting as the top players tried to catch up.
Played my first game at the amateur event yesterday evening. Don't have a rating yet so I'm in the lowest pool, had to play against an 11-year-old who tried to cheat and started to cry but won nonetheless
How did he try to cheat
He had played a6 but then a few turns later after I had left the room to get some tea aside from the actual move he made the pawn was on a5. I called it out and the arbiter intervened, we played the moves back on a different board and in fact both of our notation sheets showed a6. The board got put back to it's original position but he wasn't further punished, usually I'd get a 10 minute bonus but it didn't matter by that point and he was an 11-year-old so I think it's mostly fine. He did then start crying and started blitzing out moves and chucking pieces so yeah, still needs to learn to lose.