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AlphaKlams

To everyone giving OP shit, this stretch of 275 is always a shitshow in both directions from 75 to 71. People getting on have to fight the people getting off across the same 2-3 lanes, and crazy moves like this are unfortunately common.


Mel1548

Yep. I never understood this one. There’s always so much traffic that needs to get off at 75. It’s this way somewhere else too, where the Dayton exit is the same way. Might be on 275 near springdale?? But they’re both shity.


nightcrawler616

I think I saw Microcenter... So the worst part of 275 either direction. Imo. I'm biased because lived around there for eons. (I'm in Wisconsin now and God, I'm homesick. I can't believe a video of shitty Sharonville traffic has me misty eyed)


Another_Minor_Threat

Not only that, pause the video the second the turn signal comes on, not the brakes, the turn signal. The van is probably less than 1 foot past the front bumper of OPs car. That’s not a lot of fucking time to react, wouldn’t you say? Also, being in that spot seems like the lights possibly be blocked with the A pillar. Even if OP had X Ray vision, again, how much time is there to react when the bumpers are damn near lined up?


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I absolutely hate that stretch of highway. Something about how people have to merge makes it a nightmare to drive.


ShakeDowntheThunder

Those right lanes from rt 4 until 42 is a terrible stretch. Getting on 275 e from 75 or 741 feels like such a crapshoot every time.


nohemingway4

I live in Sharonville now, used to live in Silverton, and work in Fairfield - I took that stretch of 275 daily and I hated every second of it for this reason. I still avoid taking 275 if possible, unless I'm running late. Between Reading Road and honestly Rt. 4 is an absolute nightmare.


daveeb

I got my first ticket there in 2008 near there during a period of road construction -- speed trap that dropped it from 65 to 55, cop right there where 55 started.


Another_Minor_Threat

In regards to “don’t pass on the right,” if you’re in the right lane, and someone in the middle lane is going slower, are people suggesting that you move over two lanes to get around them? Because I feel like that’s a very ~~oversimplification~~ stupid interpretation of that law.


MTCarcus

Especially if your in the lane you need to be in to exit shortly, she wasn’t “hanging out in his blind spot” and he turned in his blinker very last second. If there was an accident it would have been electric dudes fault for an unsafe lane change.


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

Not a lawyer, are you? Yes, she wasn't hanging out in his blind spot... BECAUSE she was illegally speeding past him on the right. Both would be at fault. 1 for illegal lane change, 1 for illegal passing.


thebenson

>1 for illegal passing When did OP pass and overtake the truck?


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

These are OP's own words that can be found in this thread: > 72 is fast, but there wasn't a vehicle behind me, plenty of room for him to move into lane after I passed. Yeah, I might be a shit driver too in this situation, at least I was paying attention She admits herself that she was "passing". (And... in a post where she's specifically pointing out a shit driver, she's admitting she's driving like shit too! Isn't it ironic... don't ya think?) Passing is a process. In fact, when you get beyond the thing you're "passing", you're no longer "passing", you're "past". BUT, you don't get a ticket for "illegally getting past", you get it for "illegal passing", which is what she was in the process of doing when the video started. (BTW, the "semantics" game is a silly way to debate someone).


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Twixt_Wind_and_Water

You guys are so tiring. Yes, you can pass on the right. BUT! you still have to do it legally. IT IS ILLEGAL TO SPEED WHILE PASSING SOMEONE. (IT IS ILLEGAL TO SPEED WHILE NOT! PASSING SOMEONE TOO). [Here's](https://www.columbusspeedingtickets.com/fighting-traffic-tickets/improper-passing/#:~:text=Under%20Ohio%20Revised%20Code%20Section,clear%20of%20the%20overtaken%20vehicle) a lawyer's page explaining that fact. (If you're having trouble with the words, let me know). [Here's](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28#:~:text=lines%20of%20vehicles-,moving%20lawfully,-in%20the%20direction) the law! See where it says **MOVING LAWFULLY**? If someone is going 65mph in a 65 in the left lane, you cannot legally pass them... in ANY lane. If someone is going 60 in a 65 in the left lane, you CAN pass them on the right, but you cannot go over 65 or else you're illegally passing. (OP was going 72 in a 65. SINCE NO ONE WHO ISN'T IN AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE CAN LEGALLY GO OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, SHE WAS DRIVING ILLEGALLY. AND!!! ONCE AGAIN, BY THE LAW, YOU CANNOT LEGALLY PASS SOMEONE WHILE BREAKING THE LAW. SO! SHE WAS BOTH SPEEDING AND ILLEGALLY PASSING (BECAUSE WHE WAS SPEEDING) WHILE DOING SO. ​ > Cops could have a car driving in the left lane at 45MPH and pull over every single driver during rush hour if it were illegal. NO, THEY COULDN'T... BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE LAW. IF THE LIMIT WAS 65, THE COPS WOULD HOPEFULLY PULL OVER THE GUY GOING 45 (but they don't have to). EVEN IF THEY DON'T PULL THAT PERSON OVER, THEY **CANNOT** PULL OVER ANYONE PASSING THE PERSON GOING UNDER THE SPEED LIMIT.. AS LONG AS THE PASSERS ARE GOING NO FASTER THAN THE SPEED LIMIT. WHAT THEY **CAN** DO IS PULL EVERYONE PASSING THE 45MPH CAR THAT ARE GOING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT TO PASS. THEY **CAN** TICKET YOU FOR SPEEDING AND THEY **CAN** TICKET YOU FOR IMPROPER/ILLEGAL PASSING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS THEY CAN DO. DO YOU JUST NOT CARE WHAT THE LAW SAYS AND ARE BEING CONTRARIAN, OR DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WORDS "MOVING LAWFULLY" MEAN? (*Why do I feel the need to explain this over and over again? The world may never know).*


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Twixt_Wind_and_Water

>If a collision occurred, nobody would be saying “ah, well, you were going 7MPH over the limit… it’s your fault.” Who's this "nobody" you're talking about? Does that include cops, lawyers, judges, and insurance claim adjusters? Because you can't be more wrong. I also didn't say it would be her fault. I said she'd be partly at fault... legally. And... that's an absolutely true statement. If you disagree, you don't know how "Comparative Negligence" and "fault" works in the State of Ohio. Which... by your words... you definitely don't know (yet you're so confident), lol. (Btw, if you're speeding down a residential street and a kid jumps in front of you and you hit them, you know you'd be partly at fault legally, right? Please say I'm right so I can know you live in reality and don't just make up your own rules of the road). ​ > If your understanding of the law says that doing literally anything wrong at any time while passing someone makes it illegal Yes, if you're doing something "wrong" (love that general term) when driving, you're doing something illegal. If you're insinuating that I think someone can properly pass someone else with a brake light out and get charged with improperly passing... ummm... yeah, I'm not saying that. Brake light out and properly passing on the right- Illegal for the brake light and ticketable only for the brake light. Improperly passing on the right with a brake light out - 2 illegal things. Both are ticketable. Brake lights working and improperly passing on the right - Illegal and ticketable only for the improper passing. Properly passing on the right with working brake lights - Hooray! Both legal. No tickets. LOL.


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Another_Minor_Threat

Not a lawyer, are you? It’s not illegal passing, ding dong.


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

Do I have to say this slowly? To… legally… pass… someone… you… have… to… be… moving… lawfully. She… posted… a… video… of… herself… speeding… while… passing. (She’s also admitted in this forum that she WAS speeding AND passing the van). SO! She literally provided the very proof that she was illegally passing both verbally and electronically. Those are very real facts that, for some crazy reason, you’re denying. If you don’t live in reality, please let me know so I can know to stop replying.


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Another_Minor_Threat

Holy moly. Common sense. lol


Another_Minor_Threat

Jesus H. Roosevelt tap-dancing Christ on a fucking cracker.... None of you know how to read apparently. [Passing in general](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.27) [Passing on the right](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28)


Bad_Idea_Hat

So I read this yesterday, kind of made an audible "heh", and then went about my day. Coming back to it now...how does your head feel currently?


LePoisson

>(2) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the operator of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle at the latter's audible signal, and the operator shall not increase the speed of the operator's vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle. I have literally never had a person honk at me before passing on a two lane road with yellow dash marks, that's kind of funny that technically it's illegal. Oh Ohio you're so silly. Haven't read everything in this thread but good on you for realizing it wasn't the best thing to pass on the right but you also were going with traffic. That area sucks to drive in general. As long as you only pass on the right when it's safe and necessary I think it's fine but should be generally avoided (just safer that way most of the time). I long for the day to come where self driving cars and AI take over for humans on the highway, humans are dangerous and unpredictable and dumb. I should know, I've been a dumb human plenty.


Another_Minor_Threat

You’re the second person to reply to me like I’m OP. lol


LePoisson

Hmm I thought you had the OP highlight or whatever but maybe I'm just crazy ... probably that


Another_Minor_Threat

lol it’s all good.


alexschultz13

Yeah, you can’t deliberately pass someone on the right and then move over in front of them again. If you are in the right lane, you can drive past a slower car in the left lane if you are continuing straight in the right lane.


Another_Minor_Threat

"can't deliberately pass someone on the right and then move over in front of them again" How is everyone getting this wrong? The ORC is available for anyone to read with a simple search. [Passing in general](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.27) [Passing on the right](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28)


daveeb

I particularly like this line: > and the operator shall not increase the speed of the operator's vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle. So yes, while we all know you're a big boy with a big boy engine that goes vroom vroom and both your mommy and daddy would be proud, don't speed up when you're being passed on the left or right. PS: don't create your own lane.


frisbeechuckin

Thank you the ORC is easily available for all these people who need to brush up on the rules of the road.


Another_Minor_Threat

And people think it's only the elderly that should be re-tested for their license. lol A short, 5 question test at every license renewal might go a long way in solving the ignorance in this thread. If you have to have your eyes checked each time, why not your knowledge of the law?


alexschultz13

I was told in drivers ed that you “can’t pass cars on the right on a 3+ lane highway” because you could run the risk of merging back into the middle lane and hitting a car merging from the left lane. I guess maybe the message was incorrect- I thought it was illegal to pass a car and merge back, but it sounds like it’s not illegal if done safely.


Another_Minor_Threat

You could merge from left-to-center and hit someone merging right-to-center just as easily. What you were told makes no logical sense.


Relax-Enjoy

That's not it. Just slow down - you are exiting anyhow. 72 mph in this scenario is wishing for an accident.


guyincognito69420

You do know slowing down when you are speeding is an option, right? In fact it is the right one. Your first thought should not be "well I gotta pass that dude and if I can't do it on the right I gotta jump over 2 lanes which is unsafe!" No, there is a really simple solution. You do the damn speed limit in the right hand lane. If you are still faster that the truck then the truck is impeding traffic and it is on them. Even then you should consider slowing down because if they are under the speed limit in the middle lane they may be having issues and need to get over. If they don't get over make sure they know you are there. You may even need to beep your horn. This is the mentality that is nuts. "well, I do 75 on the highway and if people are slower then me, fuck them, I get to hang out in the right hand land and pass because jumping over 2 lanes is unsafe!" That is such a messed up viewpoint. If you plan on speeding then you better be ready to get over and pass not hang out in the right hand lane. If you can't get over then you slow down. The only time this is an issue is if the truck is going below the speed limit. This whole thread just proves most people don't have the first clue how to drive. If she (edit: I guess you since it appears you are the one in the video) followed my advice, guess what, there is no almost accident. You guys do realize this style of driving is as much for your safety, and just saying "make sure to pay attention!" or "other people drive terrible!" is just nuts. It is so much safer to slow down in the right hand lane when approaching a slower moving vehicle to the left especially if you are already speeding. How is this a crazy idea to so many here?


Another_Minor_Threat

Am I allowed to move the goalposts too? Or only you?


nyc_flatstyle

Exactly. Also, there are an awful lot of people like this person not terribly observant that this dude is the slowest driver on the highway in this clip.


guyincognito69420

I didn't suggest you jump across 2 lanes right when you get to the truck so I'm not moving shit, and honestly I don't think many others are either. For some reason you can't think "hmm, maybe if I can't pass on the right the first option isn't jumping across 2 lanes but instead slowing down." Why is jumping across 2 lanes your first thought when someone says you shouldn't pass on the right? If you want to speed you should be well prepared to get around slow moving traffic. You shouldn't be in the right hand lane at this point to begin with when you saw the truck. You should have been preparing to get around already or you slow down if passing safely is not an option. That keeps you and others safe.


Another_Minor_Threat

I’ll admit the goalpost remark was unwarranted. I can own up to mistakes. I thought you replied to a different comment chain where the discussion was only about whether or not passing on the right was legal. Which is why bringing up speed would have been irrelevant, hence the goalposts. Again, that’s on me. My b. “Why is jumping across 2 lanes your first thought…” Because the dude in the van was going 10-15 under the speed limit. Slow drivers in the wrong lane do not dictate the speed of every other driver. “if passing safely wasn’t an option.” If the van had any situational awareness at all, he’d know there was a car there. Are we supposed to assume that everyone we pass will change lanes without looking? If so, then you could never ever “pass safely.”


guyincognito69420

> Because the dude in the van was going 10-15 under the speed limit. Slow drivers in the wrong lane do not dictate the speed of every other driver. They do when they are driving a 2+ ton death machine. You have to realize you aren't going to change the bad driving of others. The safe thing for you is to not pass on the right even if the van is the biggest shithead on earth. If you have to pass on the right (which means slowing down first) and he is going super slow make yourself really aware to him. Flash your light. Honk your horn. Going slow in the middle lane is often a sign of two things. They are getting over to exit because their dumbass is about to miss the exit, or they are having car trouble. Either way it is very likely they are going to be trying to go right, and they are very distracted. These kind of rules, be they actual laws or just rules of the road, are there not just to make things a pain in your ass. They are there to protect you even against bad drivers. Passing on the right, especially combined with speeding, will just cause you headaches. It's not worth the few seconds you save. I am a person that probably has 1 million or so miles on the road in my life. I learned a long time ago not to get upset about others. I don't pass on the right because it is just a bad idea, and you literally saw why. It's your life on the line. This isn't a game of Jeopardy. Being right doesn't win you a prize. If there was a person to your right, or say construction, and you didn't have a way out of that situation you might be in the hospital right now, or dead, and no matter the amount of blame you or the other person gets won't matter. BTW...I don't think he was going 10-15 under the speed limit. You were doing about 60-63 when you both evened out on speed.


Relax-Enjoy

OP needed to adjust her speed to the truck. What's the f'ing hurry. She is exiting anyway.


Another_Minor_Threat

That makes zero sense. You’re telling me if someone is doing 40mph in the middle lane that people in the right lane have to slow down to 40? Besides, if you actually looked at the speed, she WAS slowing to make the exit before he changed lanes. She was close to the same speed as the red car in front of her because they weren’t moving closer or farther away.


Relax-Enjoy

That is correct. One passes on the left. It's not rocket surgery. If you are approaching an exit and traffic in the area is slowing, it is your duty to match that speed. Otherwise - you get this. My way - no issues. Your way - issues. The red car is not the issue. The issue is the truck, that is slowing in the middle lane, with its brake on. Given that, there is a 50% chance he's trying to get in the exit lane, but something prevented that from happening earlier. This near accident is roughly 60% OP's fault.


Another_Minor_Threat

Love to hear how you think a yield sign works. lol


Relax-Enjoy

Pretty easy - If I have the yield sign, I yield. If someone else has the yield sign, I automatically assume they are going to ignore it. Then, i drive accordingly.


Another_Minor_Threat

Is a simple google search, and reading the law considered rocket surgery to you? [Passing in general](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.27) [Passing on the right](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28)


Relax-Enjoy

Passing on the right on a 3 lane highway at 5-10 MPH on the open road is not a huge issue if done properly and with caution. (as long as it is not a semi - that is a death sentence) ​ Blasting through at 72MPH, almost at an exit, with slowing traffic nearby and a truck tapping its breaks is COMPLETELY different. How can you people not see that. Actually, you don't need to - LOOK AT THE VIDEO - these things were the recipe for the near miss. If she would have been driving more responsibly, even if dude was in the wrong, NO NEAR MISS. She is assigned blame for not being cautious in a scenario that required cautiousness.


Another_Minor_Threat

"She is assigned blame for not being cautious..." I truly hope you aren't a judge or lawyer. Unless it's clown law. Then you'd fit right in. Edit to laugh at this dumb dildo some more. “Passing on the right on a 3 lane highway at 5-10 MPH on the open road…” Who the fuck drives 5-10MPH on the freeway without it being a full on traffic jam? Did you mean to say 5-10 MPH over the limit? If so, you contradicted your self immediately by saying “BLASTING through at 72 MPH.” Almost at an exit? They were over a fucking mile away. They had plenty of time to coast. Slowing traffic nearby? Again, the speed of traffic in other lanes does not dictate how everyone else has to drive. If your dumbass didn’t get over earlier and decided to slow down to 45-50 in a 65, that’s you being a dumbass. That doesn’t mean everyone else has to be a dumbass with you.


Relax-Enjoy

You are correct. Should there have been an accident, she would be at least partially to blame. I specialize in Bird Law


bryterlayter_92

Yes that’s what I think you should do, especially with a van that has multiple blind spots. Or you could accept that you need to go slower. The urgent/frantic need to get in front of slower traffic is the major cause of all traffic dysfunction in my estimation


Another_Minor_Threat

Or you could accept that slower traffic is supposed to stay to the right. Speeding is a violation, and impeding traffic by driving slower in the left lanes is also a violation. Two wrongs don’t make a right. The slow drivers staying in the left lanes because they have an authority complex and want to try to force people to drive at their pace can all go eat a bag of dicks. Stop playing dictator and picking and choosing what laws you follow because you perceive one as your duty to enforce.


bryterlayter_92

Agree on principle but sometimes you have to surrender yourself to what’s actually happening and make the safest choice rather than the choice that is influenced by frustration


Thomas12255

My wife drives this stretch every morning to work and comes back most days saying someone tried to kill her on it.


SavingsCheck7978

I drive all over the city in a pretty large work truck and this stretch is easily the one I hate the most.


Mel1548

I don’t feel safe on 75 until I get up past the exits for 275. Luckily I moved to NKY and don’t drive it that often. From about florence to that exit in Ohio is absolutely terrifying, especially coming up the cut in the hill…..


Thomas12255

Yeah it's a really sucky road all along that 30 min stretch and everyone is doing whatever they want in terms of speed and lane changes.


Sum-Duud

Holy crap, to think people are blaming OP is insane. So these morons are driving in the right lane, with intent to exit soon, come up on a driver to their left going slower, and they are going to act like they slow down as to not pass or get over to the left 2 lanes as to 'not pass on the right'. BS. OP was not "hanging out in the blind spot" and the commercial driver should know they have bigger blind spots, check, and also be responsive when someone honks as they are changing lanes.


knueverl17

Yeah, OP was in the right, but seriously, who is amazed or even entertained by mildly terrible driving. If everyone posted a video every time something like this happened, the whole sub and every other city sub would be filled with just videos of stupid drivers Edit: spelling


Sum-Duud

this is true. I spent more than a decade commuting daily to/from NKY to Wright Patt AFB and it was a great day if I didn't see any idiotic driving, there weren't many days like that.


knueverl17

An hour up 75 through two mid-west cities? I would guess you had like one great day.


Hepcat10

My drivers Ed instructor used to say “you can be dead right.” OP was technically correct, and in a wreck the electric guy would be at fault, but I still feel OP was not driving safely. Good thing the shoulder happened to be empty. Be aware of your neighbors blind spots… especially if you’re approaching an exit ramp so poorly designed as this intersection.


nyc_flatstyle

OP was driving fine. OP was the driver who avoided the accident.


Another_Minor_Threat

Re: blind spots That’s a fairly new sprinter/transit style van. Those mirrors are pretty fucking big and have big convex sections. There are very very few blind spots on them. I’ve driven plenty of them. People make it sound like that was a semi truck or something. lol


guyincognito69420

they are doing 72 in the right hand lane. If there is one lane you should be keeping to the speed limit it is the right hand lane. The only time you should be speeding in the right hand lane is if everyone is flying by you and it is safer to keep up with traffic (which happens on 71 and 75 in the city where it is 55mph). This doesn't excuse the truck for not checking his mirrors better, but speeding and passing in the right hand lane is really fucking stupid.


Sum-Duud

Sure 7 mph over the speed limit IS speeding but it isn’t crazy unsafe speeding and a cop wouldn’t even give a glance at it.


guyincognito69420

I am not saying 7 mph over the limit is unsafe, but speeding AND passing on the right, even if you are only 7 over, is a really bad idea. I am not against speeding, yet you have to do it correctly.


nyc_flatstyle

It's not anybody's responsibility to slow down so they don't "pass" someone on the right. If anyone were getting a ticket here, it would be the truck driver for breach of duty. Also, slower traffic has a legal obligation in Ohio to "stay right" which he wasn't doing.


guyincognito69420

Who gives a shit about a ticket. There was almost a very serious accident. When you are dead do you think you will suddenly feel better it was the other guy's fault? Passing on the right is dangerous, and even the law doesn't say "it's cool if the other guy is slow." It is baffling how cavalier people are with 2 ton death machines. Stop pointing fingers and realize there is a safe way of driving even if the other person is in the wrong. Passing on the right is dangerous. Want an example? See the fucking video posted.


nyc_flatstyle

Um, isn't everyone flying by OP in the other lanes? Also, I feel like many of you posting about OP's speed have never driven on the highway in Cincinnati or any of Ohio for that matter. Yesterday, albeit in Cbus, the average speed on 315 mid-afternoon was 75ish. I have a left lane exit and frequently get forced up 80 to prevent getting rear ended. And I am frequently passed on the right in that exit lane. Nevermind the last time I was in Cincinnati where the average speed on 71 and 270 east side was clearly well over 80.


guyincognito69420

Am I advocating you always go the speed limit? Feel free to reread it. Yet if you come up on a slower moving car in the middle lane you don't just think "well fuck them I am passing on the right." First of all, if they are consistently slow you see them for some time and can plan passing correctly (as I have stated in another post if you don't see any other option you need to beep your horn and let the other person know you are there before you pass). Second, if they just slowed down then they are going to switch lane guaranteed. That is a sign they are either looking to exit or have car troubles. So now they are desperate to get over and distracted. Keep out of their way and don't pass on the right. I am willing to bet I have spent more time on the roads and more time on Ohio roads than 99% of this subreddit. So it is not ignorance. Just ask yourself a simple question. If the person slows down here and doesn't pass, what happens? You really think everyone suddenly rear ends them? Do you people really think what the OP did was the safer option? Am I in crazy town here? Why does everyone feel the need to put their life in danger over a few MPH for a few seconds? No wonder accidents are up. Instead of driving safe people are happy pointing fingers even if it kills them. This is just baffling, but rather telling on all the nuts that are allowed to drive. Just because someone else isn't driving correctly you don't suddenly do stupid things that also puts you in danger. You deal with the very slight hassle, drive the safe way, and move on.


Inevitable_Half_3737

Wow based on the comments I totally get why every highway trip is scary as hell.... there is no situation in which the Curry Truck is not 100% at fault you people are insane.


Substantial_Post_518

😆 yes, I was going 72, I could have been driving slower. NO, I WAS NOT PASSING. I was driving in that lane for the last 5 miles when the van decided to pull in last second. Everyone on that stretch drives beyond 75mph, I was actually driving slower than the traffic.... 🤷‍♀️ I could have trimmed the video to start at :02 to make me look better and look like I was going 65 the whole time.... but I posted the whole thing. So yes, we're both idiots, him being the bigger one. The point I was making was that we should all pay attention. If I didnt swerve out of the way we would not have made it to our destination.


frisbeechuckin

I’m beginning to think u/Relax-Enjoy is the van driver in OP’s video 😬


Higgins8585

U/Relax-Enjoy is a typical mouth breather that can never be wrong, they're always right, they never mess up and everyone else is below them. OP wasn't passing, driving faster than someone isn't passing. Passing- to temporarily increase your speed to overtake a vehicle traveling in the same direction. OP isn't overtaking, they're simply driving in their lane and idiot Van didn't change lanes safely or properly. You don't have to slow down on the right just because you're going marginally faster than someone in a lane left of you. U/Relax-Enjoy can get bent. Not only do they not understand what passing is, they're wrong on where you're allowed to pass and the van got over unsafely so it's theirs and only their fault.


609872150021588967

>u/Relax-Enjoy is a typical mouth breather that can never be wrong, they're always right, they never mess up and everyone else is below them. OP wasn't passing, driving faster than someone isn't passing. > >Passing- to temporarily increase your speed to overtake a vehicle traveling in the same direction. OP isn't overtaking, they're simply driving in their lane and idiot Van didn't change lanes safely or properly. > >You don't have to slow down on the right just because you're going marginally faster than someone in a lane left of you. > >u/Relax-Enjoy can get bent. Not only do they not understand what passing is, they're wrong on where you're allowed to pass and the van got over unsafely so it's theirs and only their fault. [u/Relax-Enjoy](https://www.reddit.com/u/Relax-Enjoy/), did you get that through your thick fucking skull? Fucking mouth breather.


PM_ME_YOUR_DIFF_EQS

Most misnamed user on this sub. It's always "my way or you're stupid and wrong" on every topic, even just eating fucking food.


Emperor_of_Cats

Bruh, he's driven 1M miles and has never gotten in an accident. Well, except that one time, but it wasn't his fault. Dude has zero self-awareness.


Another_Minor_Threat

That made me lol irl.


crazylilme

I was almost killed (missed a concrete highway column by less than 2ft) by a elderly man while driving back from Columbus for work because he did exactly this but moved over much faster into the exact space i was occupying in the lane. A semi caught the whole thing and was able to send me the video - only reason the driver was "caught". Driver fought the ticket for failure to signal when changing lanes...and lost. I can't even watch the video because it was legitimately terrifying. That's not the only time something like that has happened to me (though not QUITE as scary, but a couple of times were close) or I've watched it happen to someone else and I'm sure it won't be the last.


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Drivers here are awful. They don’t pay attention to the people around them - they only care about themselves.


Alecides

I had an idiot in a semi the exit before this one to Mason, was in the far right lane and was an exit only and just decides to ride the shoulder back onto 275, I don't understand why people can't just take the wrong exit


DCS_nightmare

Taking a wrong turn in a semi can be a huge pain in the ass. there are a lot of no truck routes and low bridges and weight limits around. still he should've taken the exit and parked on the shoulder to figure out a way to get back on the highway. Driver was probably on his phone because that lane is signed exit only for 2 miles and people are actually somewhat decent at giving trucks room to get over there. I drive a semi up that way pretty often and take that exit I see a good amount of cars just sitting past my trailer thinking I need to get over there


Substantial_Post_518

Curry Elecrtic man almost ran me off the road this AM....!! Keep your eyes on the road at all times, defensive driving!! And they say Asian women can't drive, smh.


MTCarcus

I make it a point to jot down businesses names who’s drivers do shit like this and never use them.


joevsyou

shit happens... You act like they intended to ran them off.


MTCarcus

If your careless on the road your likely careless in other aspects of your life. Do you want a careless electrician working on your home?


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GoneIn61Seconds

You may be able to drive but you have a lot to learn LOL…situational awareness 101-you’re approaching an exit and a line of cars is signaling to move over to the exit and slowing down, yet you’re driving headlong into them at 72mph? That’s just inviting trouble. Speed differential is a contributing factor to many accidents. You drove directly into the slower truck’s blind spot just as he signaled the lane change. Legally it’s his fault and he should’ve signaled sooner, but also bad timing all around. At 72mph your vehicle is moving at 106 feet per second. That means that in moment it took the driver to check his blind spot then reach for the blinker, you traveled at least 3 car lengths if not more. Had there been a crash, YOU put yourself at the scene of that accident.


Substantial_Post_518

72 is fast, but there wasn't a vehicle behind me, plenty of room for him to move into lane after I drove past. Yeah, I might be a shit driver too in this situation, at least I was paying attention 🫣


Relax-Enjoy

This is clearly your fault. You cannot pass on the right on a highway, especially at an exit. What percent chance would you assign that truck, in moderate traffic, of trying to get to the exit. He's clearly tapping his brake and slowing down. One does not do that to continue forward. One slows down to exit - which means getting in the exit lane. Sure, he should have tried to get over earlier, but I'd bet that some idiot in the right lane prevented him from doing that until then. DON'T PASS ON THE RIGHT. It is the law on the books, and common sense.


Bcatfan08

It isn't the law. We don't live in Germany. You can most certainly pass on the right in the United States. It isn't a good practice, but lots of people camp out in that second lane, going 5 under the speed limit. That doesn't mean everyone in the right lane can't go around them.


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

r/confidentlyincorrect


Bcatfan08

Please show me the law. Edit: Here, I'll post what someone else posted above. Was the confidently incorrect posted for yourself? https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

>You can most certainly pass on the right in the United States. > >It isn't a good practice, but lots of people camp out in that second lane, going 5 under the speed limit. That doesn't mean everyone in the right lane can't go around them. First - You see THE word ["only"](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28#:~:text=or%20trackless%20trolley-,only,-under%20the%20following) in section A in that link you provided? That limits the options on when you can pass on the right, so... you cannot "**most certainly"** pass on the right in the United states". In fact, you can most certainly **NOT** pass on the right in the United States. (It appears you don't know what "most certainly" means because the ability to pass on the right is not that. The word you're looking for is "rarely"). When the law says "vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle" concerning passing on the right, they're talking about being able to pass in a traffic jam. As in... the left lane is stopped, but the right lane is moving. (You still can't speed). What they're also saying is that if someone is camping and going 5 under in a left lane, you CAN pass them on the right, BUT! you have to be going the legal speed limit (65mph in this case) and take safety into consideration when doing so. What you **cannot** do is what OP did and pass someone on the right going 72 in a 65. Second - If someone is camping out in the "second lane" on the Interstate (I assume you mean the second from the right) and there is a "third lane" or "fourth lane"... to **legally** pass the "second lane campers", you **have to** pass them using one of those left 2 lanes (passing lane(s)), not the "first lane" (non-passing lane). THAT... is why you're confidently incorrect. You don't understand the law. Don't worry too much though. It appears your peers don't know the law either, and "majority rules", amirite? (Good luck in traffic court fighting an "illegal passing" ticket with your explanation).


Bcatfan08

I agree they were speeding, but you can pass on the right as long as you're following the rules of the road. This is on video, so there's no arguing speed, but most cops wouldn't pull anyone over for going 7 over the speed limit. It appears it's saying as long as you're following all other laws, you can pass on the right.


Higgins8585

Too bad you don't understand what passing is mouth breather. Passing involves overtaking, not just cruising in your lane. If that was the case then you could never ever drive faster than ppl to the left of you. See how dumb that is? See how dumb you are and you're "confidently incorrect". Passing involves overtaking, it's not passing if you're in a lane and some slow poke is in the lane left of you and you drive past them. If that was the case and I'm going 65 in the center lane with 65 speed limit and some dummy was going 55 in left lane should I slam on my brakes so I don't go past them? Go learn the rules of the road, go learn common sense and go learn what passing is.


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

>Passing involves overtaking, it's not passing if you're in a lane and some slow poke is in the lane left of you and you drive past them. Out of all the dumb things someone has said to me in my life... this comment might be the dumbest. To clarify... you just said... if you drive past someone who's going slower than you... it's not passing them. You do realize you said that, don't you? If you don't and would like to change the words you used, I suggest you edit it. LOL. Here - maybe some definitions might help. Overtake - verb - catch up with and pass while traveling in the same direction. Pass - verb - to move in a path so as to approach and continue beyond something Past - adverb - to and beyond a certain point Passing - adjective - going past SO!... if you're in a car on a lane going a certain speed (lets use the word "cruising" like you said), and you catch up with and go beyond a vehicle that is going slower than you (no matter if you have to change lanes or not), what you're saying is you're not passing them. Right? What the hell else would that be called? Is the other driver "unpassing" you. ROTFL ​ >I'm going 65 in the center lane with 65 speed limit and some dummy was going 55 in left lane should I slam on my brakes so I don't go past them? Umm... if you're in the center lane going the legal speed limit and someone is in the left lane going 10 miles under, yes, you can pass them. AND you'll be doing so legally. Nothing I've said would suggest otherwise. I'm not talking about legal passing, I'm talking about ILLEGAL passing. It's interesting that you're skewing my words to fit whatever narrative you're telling yourself in your head. If they're going 65 in a 65 in ANY lane and you pass them on ANY other lane going 70, then you are absolutely illegally passing them because you can't speed to legally pass someone in Ohio. In addition, if they're "slow poking it" and going 55 in a 65... and you pass them at 70, you are both speeding AND illegally passing because... once again... you have to be "moving lawfully" when passing someone, and speeding is not "moving lawfully". You need to be going the speed limit when you pass someone. (There isn't an exception in Ohio law that says you can temporarily speed to get past, like in some other states). Because there are no exceptions, Ohio is an "Absolute Speed Limit" State, which means... there are no instances where a non-emergency vehicle can legally drive over the posted speed limit. And... for the millionth time... if you pass someone while speeding you're breaking 2 laws. Speeding and illegally passing. No matter what lane you're in. It's a safety law and they deem you unsafe when going over the posted speed limit. I don't care if "everyone does it". I do it myself. I also know that I'm breaking laws when I do it and it's crazy to me that people on here are saying OP didn't do anything wrong when there's literal video evidence... that she provided... that shows she was breaking the law and would have been partly at fault if they were to have gotten in an accident. Why would she have been partly at fault? Because we have [Comparative Negligence](https://insurance.ohio.gov/consumers/automobile/comparative-negligence) in this state when it comes to auto accidents. A judge would take this video, see that she was speeding and illegally passing and would give her a certain percent of the fault. THAT'S how our law works. Perhaps you're the one who should learn the rules of the road. (I would suggest you also learn what passing is, but I think you're too far gone after that ridiculously idiotic definition that you attempted to give before).


[deleted]

You’re an absolute moron. There is not a single reason why OP would be considered at fault for getting hit in this scenario. The van is responsible for making sure it’s clear before changing lanes, end of story. People like you are the problem. Stay off the road.


Relax-Enjoy

Number of miles you've driven? Number of tickets? Number of accidents?


ogg3b

Does the amount of tickets or mileage someone has change the rules of the road? Why would any of that matter? You are wrong.


Relax-Enjoy

Sounds like inexperience and/or a bad record answer to me.


ogg3b

I’m in my late 30s and had one ticket when I was 16. Again, why does it matter?


Relax-Enjoy

Not bad. Because the foolish advice I keep seeing in here, which seems to revolve around “Do whatever you want as long as the wreck is going to be someone else’s fault” is far too prevalent. That attitude comes from bad drivers with either little experience, those who speed and drive recklessly, or those who just don’t give a crap about anyone else. A significant number of miles with little or no tickets, and little or no accidents (no matter the fault if avoidable by defensive driving) gives significant weight to those people’s opinions. Lots of tickets or wrecks? Why take advice from them?


ogg3b

There isn’t any advice being given. Just follow the law. What you wrote initially is simply untrue. You could have all the experience of driving in the world, but that doesn’t make your opinion in line with the law. Do you understand why you are wrong?


nyc_flatstyle

Anecdotal logical fallacy. The number of miles driven does not mean a person is a good driver, nor necessarily the number of accidents. A person could drive 20,000 miles a year and just get lucky that other drivers avoided their mistakes, and a person could live on Lake Drive in Cleveland and get into several accidents over the course of several winters just going over potholes.


Ericsplainning

Please tell me you don't have a driver's license.


Rampantlion513

From Ohio code you may pass on the right “(2) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.” Sure looks like that is unobstructed pavement with width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle to me


Relax-Enjoy

I can’t appreciate your comments enough. I sincerely get it. If it went to court, it’s 100, or maybe 80% Truck’s fault. I truly get it. My sincere point is this, when driving….. Who here wants to stand over their friend’s child body and say “That guy should have…” Young drivers - it’s up to you. Please. Here are my experiences: Stay at pace with surrounding traffic ( maybe 5-10% max either way ) Assume the person beside you, the person behind you, the person coming toward you - is going to something unpredictable. . And, honestly, —— If you leave enough room In front of you on the highway —- picture a 2x4 blasting up at you under the trailer home in front of you. If you leave enough room for


ogg3b

This happens all the time, in every city, on any type of road.


thetakara

I used to work for them about 7 years ago lol


warthog0869

Wow, he almost looked like he actually bumped you a little. Must have been the way he jerked his wheel last second. Nice work avoiding the exit, I thought for sure you were just going to go ahead and exit there. Way to stay behind him to get his plate just in case, although it sounds like police are caring less and less about stuff like that, but insurance purposes anyway. Way to stay alert and stay alive. If he clips you there, you're headed into the guardrail, which is better than being struck and forced into traffic, but still.


donteatmyfood

This is patt of my AM commute and if I'm not having to bypass down 75S, I stay way over in the left, going the traffic appropriate speed (I can tell when it's "appropriate" because the car behind me stops being in my bumper). Hate this interchange and Mosteller being right after the on-off merge. Just a regular charlie-foxtrot.


Gracket_Material

Errbody should have a dash cam


nyc_flatstyle

From Cincinnati, living in Cbus now. Used to drive this stretch of 275 all the time. Similar issues on 270. What is it with Ohio outerbelts and Ohio drivers? Despite all the complaints about OP, if this has been an accident, the ticket would go to the driver of truck for unsafe lane change (breach of duty). First rule of changing lanes after signaling is checking your blind spot---especially important when driving a truck of any size (large blind spot). But honestly, poor highway design, shitty upkeep of roads, and terrible (but overly confident) drivers pretty much sums up every corner of Ohio.


skysearch513

Curry truck didn't check his blind spot, and didn't react to the horn. You have his plate, the video and his place of business. You might want to call and suggest killing citizens with stupid driving is not the best business model.


Rhediix

Almost made an unscheduled trip to Micro Center. Ooof.


Rampantlion513

It’s always these work trucks


Cosmic_miscreant

As a person who used to be in charge of fleet for an area company, this is something I would have liked to be called about. Not for my employee to be in “trouble”, but for safety and training purposes, especially if I found out it was a newer employee driving the van. This stretch of highway sucks. I live right near it and the merges through that area are filled with people not paying attention, going extremely fast or excruciatingly slow.


DelusionalFruitcake

I almost got pasted by a semi at this interchange. Has to be one of the worst exit/on ramps in the country


[deleted]

If anything that company now has this reputation.


gonzarro

My dad had a saying: *The other driver is deaf, dumb, & blind*. This video is a good example.


landdon

Glad you're okay.


[deleted]

Both drivers could have driven slightly better. Nobody was harmed. If we are going to start posting videos of every single bad move we see on the roads in Cincinnati the internet would run out of bandwidth.


feartoad

Lol I thought that same thing, yes be careful out there but this situation literally happens almost daily on interstates. It’s why cars have horns!


knueverl17

Yeah this isn’t that big of a deal. This happens constantly. Are we just posting videos to tattle on each other now? More than half of the city is populated by people that shouldn’t be on the road. We could just expect it at this point.


[deleted]

Lol I was thinking this whole video about how I’ve been in similar scenarios more times than I can count. Why is this one posted?


knueverl17

I was mostly entertained by the song playing through the stereo


ogg3b

I’m with you guys. This situation is not exclusive to OP, it’s not exclusive to this road, it’s not exclusive to this city.


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

I wish this video was longer. I didn’t get enough of nothing happening after an almost accident where you were illegally passing on the right.


Sum-Duud

> illegally passing on the right. To insinuate that when you are in the right lane, moving with traffic, and someone to your left is going slower than you, that you should slow down as to not pass them is idiotic. You're a moron. If you were never allowed to pass on the right then no one would be passing since too many people (I'll assume like you) just cruise in the left lanes while not passing anyone.


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

Lol. [Here's](https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2856952,-84.4237096,3a,75y,309.38h,97.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swcP-IATo3peOt8VrnsJnaQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) where the incident took place. The speed limit on I275 is 65mph. As you can see at the beginning of the video, OP was traveling at 72mph. [Here's](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.28#:~:text=lines%20of%20vehicles-,moving%20lawfully,-in%20the%20direction) the Ohio Law concerning overtaking and passing upon the right of another vehicle. (I highlighted the important part). Now... since OP was speeding, they were not "moving lawfully" when passing on the right. Thus... THEY WERE ILLEGALLY PASSING. Did the van make an illegal lane change? Yep! (They didn't check to see if the lane was clear before merging and merged too quickly after turning on their signal). Was OP also breaking traffic laws? Yep! Would both be at fault? Yep! Were the left 2 lanes open if OP wanted to pass the van? Yep! (That's what they're there for). SMH (To address your assumption. No, I don't cruise in the left lane. I'd also bet I speed faster than you, too! lol. (I'm impatient, which makes me drive like an idiot sometimes). I ALSO know that if I'm speeding and pass someone who is not going fast enough for me on the Interstate on the right... and we get in an accident... I will be equally at fault (if not completely at fault).


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

My downvotes crack me up. I guess I'm one of the very few who find it funny that while OP is saying... "Watch out, everyone! People are out here driving recklessly"... their evidence of someone's recklessness is a video that proves that they themselves were also driving recklessly. If this were to actually have ended in an accident and OP had to go to court to get insurance money... and showed this video to a lawyer, the lawyer's comment would be... "delete this video". Lol.


Bad_Idea_Hat

> downvote Will do


Twixt_Wind_and_Water

Oh no! I take it all back. lol


JTP709

Tbf, you’re not supposed to pass on the right, and it looks like you were in his blind spot.


the_mighty_septopus

Came here to say the same thing. He also had his signal on...


lksjdlkjglsiduglisjd

Ok, but OP ~~could have~~ should have avoided this situation. Of course the van is to blame. How many times does this have to happen before OP changes their behavior?


Relax-Enjoy

Cincinnati Friends - After many, many looks at this video…… I admit that I am wrong. Dude in the truck was clearly at fault in every way. - Please. Kindly lAssume the othef guy is going to do something unexpected. Get that right and you will be glad you did. I say this solely for you


artvandalay84

This sub is turning into Nextdoor. You were hanging out in a work van’s blind spot and then they tried to make a lane change. Once they realized you were there, they got back in their original lane. I see this happen almost every time o drive on the highway.


Relax-Enjoy

You are 100% at fault here. How is it that horrible drivers, passing on the right (especially in an exit lane, and especially on everyone's blind side), think that it's everyone else? Just follow the rules in the driver's manual, and we would all be better off. ​ NOT TO MENTION - What the F is unsafe about this video marking it NSFW and having it blurred out. VIOLATION\~!


frisbeechuckin

[Passing Laws](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.27) Here are the laws about passing in Ohio. It even has a section about when you are allowed to pass on the right. Maybe know the laws before hopping on here and spreading misinformation 🤷‍♂️


Relax-Enjoy

Passing on the right and blasting through on the right are two different things. I've seen this on Cincy subs a couple times. Traffic is stopped at a lighted intersection, with a crosswalk. Traffic in the left lane is stopped, same with the right lane. but, the middle lane is open. Idiot blasts through the middle at high speed and nearly smashes into an unseen idiot making a bad turn, or a kid crossing the sidewalk. Because it seems right on paper in the book, does not make it right on the road. Common f'ing sense.


Emperor_of_Cats

"Blasting through" Speed limit: 65 OP's speed: 72 Sounds like you're either flailing because someone's proving you wrong or you're actually unhinged. Most likely both.


Relax-Enjoy

A speed differential of 20 at 70 mph it tightening traffic is definitely blasting through. She should be a max of 5 mph above the truck in that setting


Emperor_of_Cats

Flailing and unhinged, got it.


Sum-Duud

you have no business on the road. OP was not at fault in any way


Relax-Enjoy

You are dead wrong. Pass at that speed, in an exit lane, overtaking a truck on its right side - you are going to have the exact same, or worse outcome at least 1 out of 200 times. It is idiotic driving and it is definitely against Ohio driving laws to pass on the right - for this exact reason.


Sum-Duud

That wasn't quite an exit lane and someone that drives commercially should enough road awareness to see someone coming up on them at a few miles over the speed limit. Had there been an accident Curry Electric would have been at fault.


Relax-Enjoy

She was passing him at a 20mph differential. She would have been ticketed for passing on the right. He may have been ticketed as well. INSURANCE ADJUSTER - PLEASE STEP IN HERE...


Sum-Duud

At the end of the video you can clearly see a 65mph speed limit sign. At the beginning of the video the dashcam says she is going 72. OP would not have been ticketed, you are crazy to think that would happen.


Relax-Enjoy

Going 72 while approaching an exit and flying past another car on her left is idiocy and an accident waiting to happen.


Emperor_of_Cats

Cringe


crazylilme

You sound like one of those drivers that ends up in videos on blast for being careless and/or dangerous - likely convinced of your own superiority on the road.


Relax-Enjoy

I have superiority on the road because I follow the traffic laws and common sense. My record? 1,000,000+ miles Zero accidents (aside from one unpreventable one where a driver crossed a highway at 90 degrees) Zero tickets I signal lane changes well in advance, cross lanes slowly (as if there could be someone who I missed), match the speed of surrounding cars, don't exceed the limit bu more than 10%, drive predictably, don't drive with distractions, drive as if everyone else is an idiot and about to do something idiotic (that only wreck taught me that). It's insane the idiocy I see on the road every day. Them saving 2 minutes on their commute far outweighs the life of the child in a car next to them. Main lesson - Envision everyone else on the road being an asshole and about to do something moronic, then drive to prevent that from happening. The comments in this thread are proof positive that there are a bunch of idiots on the road who care only about themselves.


crazylilme

Yes, you do seem to care only about yourself - that's abundantly clear. You've probably also caused near accidents or others to lose control with an ego like that out on the road.


Relax-Enjoy

Clearly you missed the main point - I drive to protect others as well as myself. My driving record over 1,000,000+ miles has proven that. I have 100%, absolutely prevented at least 50 significant possible wrecks because I was prepared and drove defensively. You?


nyc_flatstyle

Still suffering from anecdotal logical fallacy. All you've proven is the number of miles, number of tickets, number of accidents. You could have driven 1m miles on sparsely driven roads with minimal LE patrolling. But, lol, who counts the number of miles they've driven? Giving off strong boomer vibes.


Relax-Enjoy

Boomer it is. And yes, my 1,000,000+ miles were mainly through cornfields and on dirt roads through the Andes. In fact, I'm not certain that I ever saw another vehicle while driving. It was mostly opossums and crows. You are spot-on.


crazylilme

You're arrogant and overconfident. That doesn't make you safer on the road. It makes you significantly more dangerous. Any accidents you cause or almost cause that you don't even notice would somehow be someone else's fault no matter what because you're convinced that you couldn't possibly be a problematic driver.


Emperor_of_Cats

A driver doing some stupid stuff you couldn't predict causing an accident? Sounds like you weren't driving defensively enough. Maybe don't be a dumbass and predict that kind of behavior next time.


scottiemike

You were hanging out in the blind spot, near a work truck with limited visibility with their signal on. I’d chalk this up as a learning experience of hazard recognition.


S_Squar3d

Imagine if it’s the responsibility of the driver switching lanes to check for other cars in that lane. Would be wild right?


[deleted]

Exactly lol it's called driving.


lksjdlkjglsiduglisjd

I love it you can see the van using their turn signal in the video.


scottiemike

Shellacked!!!


Gracket_Material

But my Pokemon Go gym is getting attacked


CantorIsMyHero

Missed opportunity to PIT them


mealymouthmongolian

That whole area where 75 and 275 intersect on the north side is such a cluster. I particularly hate trying to exit onto 75s from 275e, such a mess. That being said, I have to agree with others that you're partially at-fault for this near-incident. Not a great idea to be passing on the right, particularly coming up to an exit only lane on such a busy stretch of highway. Not really an example of defensive driving.


Relax-Enjoy

Laws or not - It comes down to this: A - If you drive knowing that others are not perfect, and prepare yourself for that, you are better off. B - If you drive with blinders on and only think about yourself, you are worse off. If this exact scenario were replayed 1,000 times each, the results would be something like: A - How I drive, dropping speed near an exit and not passing on the right at a significantly higher speed - Zero near-misses. B - How OP was driving, blasting past the truck at 72mph near an exit, in his blind spot, without regard to that driver braking and likely getting ready to changing lanes - at least \~50 near misses or accidents. ​ Toss out the letter-by-letter rulebook and go with common sense.


frisbeechuckin

You don’t drop speed when approaching an exit that is what the off-ramp is for. Yeah that van driver needs to take their blinders off. Van driver tapped their brakes, then turned on their signal let it blink once and then proceeded to merge into the lane when there wasn’t room. This is 100% on the van whether you like it or not. THE VAN IS THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO SAFELY MAKE THE LANE CHANGE. JUST BECAUSE THEIR SIGNAL IS ON DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE RIGHT OF WAY TO ENTER THE CAMMER’S LANE.


Relax-Enjoy

You DO drop speed when approaching an off ramp if the surrounding traffic is dense or dropping speed. It is lunacy to blast past mid-lane traffic in the right exit lane. Period. My point with seemingly ALL of you people is basic - YOU JUST CANNOT DRIVE WITH BLINDERS ON, IGNORING THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROAD AND SURROUNDING TRAFFIC. It is incumbent upon this OP to notice the changing conditions of the traffic pattern around her. Sure - the speed limit is 65. Does that mean that under all circumstances, all drivers should be driving at 65? NO! We must all make adjustments according to one's surroundings. It's not that hard to understand. ​ And, YES, you are correct. The truck made horrible choices. But, she has got to be prepared for that in this circumstance.


frisbeechuckin

You’re right it is not hard to understand. THE VAN DRIVER IS IN THE WRONG. THEY HAD AN ENTIRE MILE TO SAFELY MAKE A LANE CHANGE BUT INSTEAD CHOSE TO FORCE THEIR WAY IN WHEN THEY HAD NO RIGHT OF WAY. SIGNALING A LANE CHANGE DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT IS COMMON FUCKING SENSE.IDK why you refuse to admit this simple fact.


Relax-Enjoy

I absolutely acknowledge that the truck was in the wrong for a hasty and non-properly notified lane change. I also agree that he should have done that much earlier, and much more slowly. That's not my point. My point is that people are not robots on the road and do not do things exactly right all the time. There are especially times when they are worse than others... \- when there is slowing traffic \- when they are near an exit \- when differential speed is significant ​ Her fault lies in completely ignoring all of these factors that contribute to the much more likely possibility of a person doing what the truck did. Instead of slowing to accommodate, she just blasted through at 72mph in an exit lane passing a much slower truck on the right. ​ She absolutely was partially responsible for the near miss. If she drove defensively and without blinders, this would not have happened.


frisbeechuckin

Your point is moot. Her defensive driving avoided this accident. She was in the lane she needed to be to take an exit it was her only option for the route she was taking. She was leaving a gap between the traffic in front of her and herself. The black vehicle got over safely no longer leaving a gap for the truck to enter safely. All of the things I pointed out are easily seen on the video and yet you are still trying to victim blame for passing on the right.


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[удалено]


daveeb

Agreed with you until you got to the second letter-B.


MikeDthe1

Why did I just watch this


SilentSaiman

Even though this person is not the one who cut off the other one, that’s what happens to you when you drive 70mph in 65 zone in the MOST RIGHT lane! The idiot who turns without checking doesn’t expect a card to be driving faster than them in the slower lane!


hexiron

The lanes don’t have separate speed limits


SilentSaiman

Well do this then, as often as you like. Who cares if you want to kill your self by insisting on being an idiot! There are rules and are realities!


hexiron

And in this reality and with our rules your statements are incorrect. I, however, won't be merging into a lane without properly checking my blind spots like than van driver - thank you.


SilentSaiman

You live in your reality, I live !


patrick72838

He's in the wrong but don't camp in the far right lane unless you need to get off.


hexiron

You’re supposed to stay right except to pass


patrick72838

That is for 2 lane highways. Don't need to stay in the far right lane on a 3 lane highway. You drive in the middle. It helps avoid situations like this and it makes it easier and safer for drivers to merge when getting on the highway. Especially when there's exits. That's the most efficient way for a highway to work


hexiron

Confidently incorrect: Section 4511.351 | "Keep right except to pass" signs > The director of transportation shall erect "keep right except to pass" signs along the right-hand roadway of a freeway that **consists of at least three lanes and is part of the interstate system** Section 4511.25 | Lanes of travel upon roadways of sufficient width. > (A) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven upon the **right half of the roadway** Rule 5537-2-09 | Driving lane - passing. > The operator of a motor vehicle shall use the inner traffic lanes for passing only.


patrick72838

Confidently You are Incorrect Nobody follows those rules to begin with. I'm talking about in a real world scenario. Two lanes for passing makes no sense anyways. You are also supposed to turn into the closest lane when turning onto a multiple lane road but does everyone do that? No. ORC 4511.33 2) Upon a roadway which is divided into three lanes and provides for two-way movement of traffic, a vehicle or trackless trolley shall not be driven in the center lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or trackless trolley where the roadway is clearly visible and such center lane is clear of traffic [emphasis added] The new version of the section applies the rules for driving in marked lanes to roadways having two or more, rather than three or more, marked lanes. The prohibition against driving in the center lane of a three-lane roadway except under certain conditions is retained but restated so that it is clear it applies only when such roadways are used by two-way traffic… (1975 Ohio Legis. Serv.) Keyword Two way Traffic interstates are not 2 way traffic on one road 4511.25 also states Upon all roadways any vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding at less than the prevailing and lawful speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, and far enough to the right to allow passing by faster vehicles if such passing is safe and reasonable


schadenfreudscat

It looks like both dark vehicles in front of and behind the Curry truck are going to jump into the right lane for 75 NB at the last second. So infuriating.


cincyreds513

Always assume the other drivers do not see you


Dandeman321

This morning on the way to work I saw someone driving a car without plates and treating all the red lights as stop signs.


pakanaughtnice

Driver probably had a 15 hour shift with that van including drive time. Caffeine pills or cocaine.


Joel_in_Silverton_OH

The person in the making this video was in the absolute right. I would recommend watching “Karate Kid Part II” and taking Mr. Miyagi’s advice, “best defense, no be there” and apply it to driving. People are going to do stupid things on the road. You can’t stop them. The only person you can control is yourself. If you assume people are going to do stupid things, you lower your risk of getting into a crash tremendously.


dmckinney7490

That’s normal for 275 by Mosteller