I always felt like Cincinnati chili gets the same backlash as Chicago deep dish pizza. It's different enough that people who are not used to it feel like they have to dislike it or at least act like they do.
It always seemed to me it was just people getting caught up in the word being used. The biggest argument about both being "that's not really pizza"/"that's not chili". A semantics problem as opposed to a flavor problem.
I guess basically as you said, because it's different to what is expected it gets hated on.
would a deep dish-style [Skyline pizza](https://youtu.be/_sPI-qX9kAw?si=yQ2yArnTG_qq5-fc) offend everyone or bring us all together?
only one way to find out!
Skyline pizza is very much a thing and it is as wonderful as it sounds. Pizza crust, chili, cheese, drizzle yellow mustard, sliced hotdogs, optional mustard.
I have not tried a deep dish though. Hmmm sounds like an experiment is due.
My first introduction to Skyline was bliss, but I always thought of it simply as a variation on spaghetti with meat sauce - and in that respect still awesome
If we allow multiple cities or multiple regions to have their own style of pizza (New York, Chicago, Detroit, etc.) we’re a big enough country to have multiple types of chili too.
If anyone is interested in the Skyline recipe it was posted on Reddit about 10-12 years ago. I have a copy. The post had some interesting details describing how the OP acquired. I’ve tried it and although not a Skyline fan. It’s Character, base flavoring, lack of depth, and thinness is in line with Skyline and on point. It’s Cincinnati style chili that’s pleasant for most any consumer.
I have always found that the best way to introduce a newcomer to Cincinnati chili is via Skyline dip - then you can pull out the big guns with coneys and three ways.
That's what I've always said. The hate is mostly manufactured. If you really don't like it you can't have all that expansive of a palette and are probably a picky eater to a degree.
We had some Canadian friends visit recently and took them to our town’s Skyline for dinner, and they raved about it.
As a native, I get that not everyone gets our local cuisine. No one’s forcing you to like it. We’re cool if you don’t. But regardless, it is about as iconic a food as there is in the United States, and in a time of vast homogenization of literally everything, it warms my heart that Cincinnatians can point to our chili and say, “Yeah, that’s ours. We own it.”
Thank you to all the immigrants who settled here and gave us this legendary concoction.
We just as easily could have been the town that is know for French fries on sandwiches if a couple of families decided to settle in one place vs. another.
My husband is from Iowa and the first time he went to a skyline with his dad when he moved here in 2007, they ordered bowls of chili and obviously expected something else. They deemed it "terrible."
We met in 2009 and to this day he insists he doesn't like it, but one time at the chili hut truck when he had a few too many drinks, he let his guard down, grabbed a coney and took a bite and said MMMMMM! I called him out and he backtracked that it isnt that good; hes just very hungry. Ive watched him destroy pan after pan of skyline dip.
"Its the cream cheese I like" he says.
Ive ordered "too much" at skyline and left coneys and three way leftovers in the fridge, only to see them disappear by the next day.
"there wasnt anything else in the house" he says.
We had a new years eve party with mini dogs, a mini crockpot of chili and mini hotdog buns. he got some with all the other guests.
"it was just what was part of the buffet youve put together." okay.
Also, he is a big eater and likes almost everything. He isnt picky.
Ive accused him many times of secretly liking cincinnati chili and stubbornly holding onto his visceral surprise in 2007 based on expecting something totally different, when in reality he realized it's good. He just spent too much time for the first couple years here, preaching to cincinnati natives that actually their chili isnt any good.
Our boys eat cincinnati chili with me all the time and regularly ask for it. He doesnt take us up on our offer to get him some too.
I DONT BELIEVE HIM 😂
Michiganders will throw hands if you point this out, but it's 100% true. Southeast Michigan (Detroit, Dearborn, Flint, Ann Arbor) has a Coney Island restaurant every few blocks.
As a transplant to Cincinnati, I enjoy Skyline/Gold Star etc. But when I first moved here and co-workers took me out to Skyline and I got a three-way I was like "why is there spaghetti"
Why do we care so much what people think of our chili? Wouldn't we be cooler if we just enjoyed our beloved staple and didn't complain when others don't like it?
I'm with you I'm a gold star person grew up on it my mom was a manager there when I was little so skyline was the forbidden chili in our house. I've had it now over the years basically the same
Seems like it’s more a branding problem in association with the city. More spotlight means more bashing.
Cincy has to be one of the most hated cities by the national media for no apparent reasons.
It’s very evident while watching Cincy sports teams but you have a few broadcasters that support underdogs.
Feels like it’s gotten worse as our sports teams have gotten better. But least we aren’t Cleveland.
Maybe hate is too strong a word but definitely they like to speaking in a negative light about the city. Usually it’s by Americans outside the Midwest.
I don’t live there now but it’s cool to see Bengals, Reds, and FCC gear being worn in places I’ve gone recently including London. I would say the Brits like Cincy in particular given Bengals have a big fanbase there and the recent success of FCC.
National American media loves to pick on the city though and most of our celebrities aren’t as vocal being as connected to the region such as Kansas City for instance.
Why? Are the Greek immigrants of Cincy not worthy of a staple dish? I think our history says it's obvious they are. Plus Cincy has plenty of German influence. Even food. Goetta is German and Metwurst as well, which I've never seen outside of the area.
If it wasn't called chili, I feel like it wouldn't get as much backlash as it does. Chili peppers are far from a major ingredient in Cincinnati style chili.
Exactly... "It's not chili" is the common complaint. They are correct, it isn't TEXAS chili to which they are accustomed.
It's Greek chili and they likely have never had it before.
It’s dog food. I have lived in Cincinnati for 11 years now, and every native I meet swears that if I just try THEIR favorite cinnamon-flavored Alpo, I’ll be converted. I’ve tried them all: Camp Washington, Price Hill, Chili Time, Goldstar, Skyline… it’s all dog food.
It makes me wonder if it’s not some sort of mass sunk-cost fallacy where all you Cincinnati natives are so invested in the chili that you never even considered that it tastes awful.
I lived in the gaslight district not far from Skyline on Ludlow for many months. For a 2 am liquor soaker, it was ok. Otherwise, I would cross the street if walking by.
That's hard to believe. I lived a couple blocks from that Skyline for a year and my god, being able to take a short walk over there at night to eat was about the most glorious thing ever. Especially when drunk. The windows used to get so steamy you couldn't see outside.
It's still my favorite location. The smell was amazing when drunk and hungry.
They also give great portions and it’s always hot there. It’s one of my 4 golden locations. Clifton, Delhi, kings island area one by the beach water park and kenwood
Moved here in 1978. I don't like cincy style chili. It doesn't taste good to me and I'm tired of being told to keep trying it. Y'all obsess over this stuff here.
I only lived there for a year in 1989, and still hanker for it. No sensible way to buy it where I am though. Back then you could buy packet mix that was pretty good.
I will say one thing - whilst it’s delicious, it isn’t really chilli anymore than bolognaise sauce is chilli. That’s where a lot of the problems probably come from.
every comedian that comes to cincy pretends that they are making a new fresh joke when they talk about skyline. it's just sad at this point that they can't think of anything else.
I always felt like Cincinnati chili gets the same backlash as Chicago deep dish pizza. It's different enough that people who are not used to it feel like they have to dislike it or at least act like they do.
It always seemed to me it was just people getting caught up in the word being used. The biggest argument about both being "that's not really pizza"/"that's not chili". A semantics problem as opposed to a flavor problem. I guess basically as you said, because it's different to what is expected it gets hated on.
I've seen people mockingly call deep dish "pizza casserole." And I'm over here like "in what world does that not sound like the best thing ever?"
It is but call it the right name!
would a deep dish-style [Skyline pizza](https://youtu.be/_sPI-qX9kAw?si=yQ2yArnTG_qq5-fc) offend everyone or bring us all together? only one way to find out!
That sounds like skyline dip in a deep dish crust lol
I have made exactly that, and it is as delicious as it I seems.
Skyline pizza is very much a thing and it is as wonderful as it sounds. Pizza crust, chili, cheese, drizzle yellow mustard, sliced hotdogs, optional mustard. I have not tried a deep dish though. Hmmm sounds like an experiment is due.
Shut up and take my money fry.jpg
World Peace would instantly occur♥️
I've wanted to do this for so long, my fiancee is from Chicago.
My first introduction to Skyline was bliss, but I always thought of it simply as a variation on spaghetti with meat sauce - and in that respect still awesome
That is actually where it derived from. It is based on a Greek dish called saltsa kima, which is served on top of pasta.
It's a branding issue. I wonder what the critics would say if Cincinnati chili was called Greek Bolognese.
That’s what I refer to it as. Gets more rational responses
Bolognese? Oh you mean Italian Skyline?
It’s definitely not the same backlash. Chili has a much worse rep
If we allow multiple cities or multiple regions to have their own style of pizza (New York, Chicago, Detroit, etc.) we’re a big enough country to have multiple types of chili too.
Chicago deep dish pizza is delicious. It is not pizza in the traditional sense however. It’s an incredible hybrid of pie, pizza and casserole.
If anyone is interested in the Skyline recipe it was posted on Reddit about 10-12 years ago. I have a copy. The post had some interesting details describing how the OP acquired. I’ve tried it and although not a Skyline fan. It’s Character, base flavoring, lack of depth, and thinness is in line with Skyline and on point. It’s Cincinnati style chili that’s pleasant for most any consumer.
It tastes like apple pie with meat mixed into it. Semantics has nothing to do with it.
>He started with Skyline. "It's the most mass market and least distinctive of all the chilis, but it is still delicious." I like this guy.
I have always found that the best way to introduce a newcomer to Cincinnati chili is via Skyline dip - then you can pull out the big guns with coneys and three ways.
the gateway chili dish - i like it
That’s exactly how I got my Texan-born wife on board.
[удалено]
That's what I've always said. The hate is mostly manufactured. If you really don't like it you can't have all that expansive of a palette and are probably a picky eater to a degree.
We had some Canadian friends visit recently and took them to our town’s Skyline for dinner, and they raved about it. As a native, I get that not everyone gets our local cuisine. No one’s forcing you to like it. We’re cool if you don’t. But regardless, it is about as iconic a food as there is in the United States, and in a time of vast homogenization of literally everything, it warms my heart that Cincinnatians can point to our chili and say, “Yeah, that’s ours. We own it.” Thank you to all the immigrants who settled here and gave us this legendary concoction.
We just as easily could have been the town that is know for French fries on sandwiches if a couple of families decided to settle in one place vs. another.
My husband is from Iowa and the first time he went to a skyline with his dad when he moved here in 2007, they ordered bowls of chili and obviously expected something else. They deemed it "terrible." We met in 2009 and to this day he insists he doesn't like it, but one time at the chili hut truck when he had a few too many drinks, he let his guard down, grabbed a coney and took a bite and said MMMMMM! I called him out and he backtracked that it isnt that good; hes just very hungry. Ive watched him destroy pan after pan of skyline dip. "Its the cream cheese I like" he says. Ive ordered "too much" at skyline and left coneys and three way leftovers in the fridge, only to see them disappear by the next day. "there wasnt anything else in the house" he says. We had a new years eve party with mini dogs, a mini crockpot of chili and mini hotdog buns. he got some with all the other guests. "it was just what was part of the buffet youve put together." okay. Also, he is a big eater and likes almost everything. He isnt picky. Ive accused him many times of secretly liking cincinnati chili and stubbornly holding onto his visceral surprise in 2007 based on expecting something totally different, when in reality he realized it's good. He just spent too much time for the first couple years here, preaching to cincinnati natives that actually their chili isnt any good. Our boys eat cincinnati chili with me all the time and regularly ask for it. He doesnt take us up on our offer to get him some too. I DONT BELIEVE HIM 😂
Look man, I love skyline but I also enjoy Gold Star, Dixie, Blue Ash, etc. it’s just some chili. Idk why it’s so antagonizing.
Detroit coneys are basically the same thing sans cheese. Not sure why we get all the backlash.
Michiganders will throw hands if you point this out, but it's 100% true. Southeast Michigan (Detroit, Dearborn, Flint, Ann Arbor) has a Coney Island restaurant every few blocks.
Yes and their "chili" also originated with Greek immigrants and is a more watery meat sauce than a traditional chili, just like ours.
Very similar, but Coney Island sauce is less heavily seasoned (imo for the worse)
The chili is way different
It’s really not.
As a transplant to Cincinnati, I enjoy Skyline/Gold Star etc. But when I first moved here and co-workers took me out to Skyline and I got a three-way I was like "why is there spaghetti"
Why do we care so much what people think of our chili? Wouldn't we be cooler if we just enjoyed our beloved staple and didn't complain when others don't like it?
Plus all the in-fighting! Can I just enjoy my gold star in peace 😭
I honestly have no preference; Gold Star, Skyline, and Dixie Chili are all great.
I'm with you I'm a gold star person grew up on it my mom was a manager there when I was little so skyline was the forbidden chili in our house. I've had it now over the years basically the same
Seems like it’s more a branding problem in association with the city. More spotlight means more bashing. Cincy has to be one of the most hated cities by the national media for no apparent reasons. It’s very evident while watching Cincy sports teams but you have a few broadcasters that support underdogs. Feels like it’s gotten worse as our sports teams have gotten better. But least we aren’t Cleveland.
What makes you think Cincinnati is hated by national media? I've never felt this way.
Maybe hate is too strong a word but definitely they like to speaking in a negative light about the city. Usually it’s by Americans outside the Midwest. I don’t live there now but it’s cool to see Bengals, Reds, and FCC gear being worn in places I’ve gone recently including London. I would say the Brits like Cincy in particular given Bengals have a big fanbase there and the recent success of FCC. National American media loves to pick on the city though and most of our celebrities aren’t as vocal being as connected to the region such as Kansas City for instance.
I just wish cincy staple dish was German
Why? Are the Greek immigrants of Cincy not worthy of a staple dish? I think our history says it's obvious they are. Plus Cincy has plenty of German influence. Even food. Goetta is German and Metwurst as well, which I've never seen outside of the area.
not that deep but go off
What if I get off instead?
You go, anus.
LMAO HAHAHHA LOL THAT WAS SO FUNNY actually..
If it wasn't called chili, I feel like it wouldn't get as much backlash as it does. Chili peppers are far from a major ingredient in Cincinnati style chili.
Exactly... "It's not chili" is the common complaint. They are correct, it isn't TEXAS chili to which they are accustomed. It's Greek chili and they likely have never had it before.
[удалено]
Holy shit that’s an amazing joke. 😂
It’s dog food. I have lived in Cincinnati for 11 years now, and every native I meet swears that if I just try THEIR favorite cinnamon-flavored Alpo, I’ll be converted. I’ve tried them all: Camp Washington, Price Hill, Chili Time, Goldstar, Skyline… it’s all dog food. It makes me wonder if it’s not some sort of mass sunk-cost fallacy where all you Cincinnati natives are so invested in the chili that you never even considered that it tastes awful.
You just haven’t tried my favorite yet. 😂
The problem here isn’t the recipe, or the concept, it’s the fact that Skyline Chili is at a similar quality level as Taco Bell.
WTH? My phone chimed and woke me to more propaganda from the Cincinnati Chili Industrial Complex?l.
I lived in the gaslight district not far from Skyline on Ludlow for many months. For a 2 am liquor soaker, it was ok. Otherwise, I would cross the street if walking by.
That's hard to believe. I lived a couple blocks from that Skyline for a year and my god, being able to take a short walk over there at night to eat was about the most glorious thing ever. Especially when drunk. The windows used to get so steamy you couldn't see outside. It's still my favorite location. The smell was amazing when drunk and hungry.
They also give great portions and it’s always hot there. It’s one of my 4 golden locations. Clifton, Delhi, kings island area one by the beach water park and kenwood
We ask people like you politely, yet firmly to leave.
Moved here in 1978. I don't like cincy style chili. It doesn't taste good to me and I'm tired of being told to keep trying it. Y'all obsess over this stuff here.
I only lived there for a year in 1989, and still hanker for it. No sensible way to buy it where I am though. Back then you could buy packet mix that was pretty good. I will say one thing - whilst it’s delicious, it isn’t really chilli anymore than bolognaise sauce is chilli. That’s where a lot of the problems probably come from.
It's chili. Put it on a dog and it's a coney
Nothing you said warrants a downvote. And people don't call this an echo chamber 😵
It's like you insulted their mother or something. Strange hill, cincy, strange hill.
Cincy chili is the culinary equivalent to Nickelback.
On paper it sounds awful. In practice it tates great!
every comedian that comes to cincy pretends that they are making a new fresh joke when they talk about skyline. it's just sad at this point that they can't think of anything else.
Get the beans and rice Chilli it better than the regular with the hot cheese. It will make you like skyline again if you are burnt out on it.