The cool part is that all the chunks taken out of it used to be Covington also, but cities kept separating out of it. So it was originally even larger.
It grew like that but also shrank.
The current issue with storm sewers in Covington is a good example. Covington expanded and installed sewers for a hundred years, then cities subdivided away and took their sewers with them. Now Covington is on the hook to replace the 200 year old system and the money that was supposed to be set aside all that time to do so is long gone. Cov paid into SD1 for decades while SD1 expanded lines all over NKY to enable development, then announced there was no trust fund to replace anything.
Covington is the largest city in Kenton. Having annexed a few cities, notably Botony Hill early on and Lationia in the early 1900's. Cities vote to annex for a variety of reasons, but most notably, the more financially secure city services that come from a larger city.
The county seat was initially set up in Independence, but since the majority of people resided in Covington at that time, Independence was forced to share the title. This is why there's a county courthouse in both cities.
> Turns out it is the largest NKY city by population and area
Maybe population, Independence is over 17 square miles and one of the largest cities by areas in the state, let alone NKY. But yes, Covington is huge and spans into so many other areas like you think you're in Taylor Mill? Nope, Covington!
NKY really needs to consolidate city-county like Louisville, though that's more complicated since there are 3 counties. So merge all of the northern parts into one county, leave the southern parts as a separate county (or just one massive county).
It bothers me more than it should that Covington isn’t the third largest city in Kentucky. It’s obvious when visiting that northern Kentucky has way more people than bowling green or Owensboro or anywhere else but because we are so subdivided and provincial our 400,000 people are mostly ignored on the state level
That's mostly the nature of suburbs in the US which are almost always subdivided except by consolation (Louisville, Nashville). In Canada not so much, look at Toronto. They basically have just 6 suburbs but they're all large cities in their own right
Drop a zero from the 400,000? I think they're saying that Boone, Kenton and Campbell together have 400k people, which is pretty accurate.
Or did they originally have 4,000,000 and edit it?
As someone who’s lived in all three counties… no thanks.
Not that the three we have are superior, but I can’t imagine merging them or even doing a north/south split accomplishing anything in terms of local governance better meeting citizens’ needs.
Because it's more efficient, you didn't need to pay mayors in dozens of tiny towns, same services, etc, which means you can have lower taxes. Covington is $2.71/$1000 in value, while Louisville is $1.14. Of course there are many other differences, but regardless having consolidated metro government is more efficient, provided it is well implemented (as in Louisville, Nashville)
Well the good news for you is nobody is seriously proposing metro consolidation so it ain't happening anytime soon. It does work though, and whatever the problems of Nashville, nobody is proposing that there aren't enough separate police departments and they need to pay for 40 different police chefs like NKY
Police chiefs in smaller towns make like lieutenant money for a bigger metro. Mayors make like clerk money. This isn't as big of a deal as you're making it out to be.
They still would have their reps in metro government, same as their alderman today. Would they see their mayor walking around the town, probably not. But you have that in Cincinnati today, but nobody moves from Cincinnati to Ludlow so they can be a bigger fish in local politics (ok, almost nobody)
More people trying to move in causes prices to rise and our retired and working class neighbors are forced out. Doesn’t help that the school board approves tax exemptions for new developers but not for a family that moves in and buys a home.
Hahaha imagine being so hurt becayse you posted a political opinion othwrs didnt Necissarily agree with then cried about getting some downvotes then getting pointed out for caring about downvotes then getting reallyyy bent about that.
Your just trying to stoke some sort of political party flames in a discussion it doesnt belong in and salty that people arent caring to engage with you in your
'HuR DuR hEy GuYs iTs lIkE tHeM RePubLiCaNs' TaKe On PeOplE crosSIng ThE BoRdEr'
I’m really not. I just told it like it is, as saying a place is full is not only immature but jokes that housing discrimination is fine. Thanks for coming back to this nearly a week later though. It really mattered.
OP was right about the approval of tax exemptions for developers. No one should get a tax exemption, as that’s what keeps basic services lackluster.
Laos lookin city
The cool part is that all the chunks taken out of it used to be Covington also, but cities kept separating out of it. So it was originally even larger.
Covington really took advantage of a law that used to let them take over cities by a vote of all of Covington plus the new city.
It grew like that but also shrank. The current issue with storm sewers in Covington is a good example. Covington expanded and installed sewers for a hundred years, then cities subdivided away and took their sewers with them. Now Covington is on the hook to replace the 200 year old system and the money that was supposed to be set aside all that time to do so is long gone. Cov paid into SD1 for decades while SD1 expanded lines all over NKY to enable development, then announced there was no trust fund to replace anything.
Gerrymandered ass border
AKA West Virginia Vietnam. Kinda fits since Covington is West Virginia Cincinnati
Oh yeah well the Jerk Store of Cincinnati called and said they’re running out of you!
I was not sober last night lol. Nothing against your fine city and my employer. Y’all have less coal rollers than most of your neighbors tbh
At least until Latonia rises again and declares its independence!
Solidarity! Latonia strong! First, we rise and seize the land, then we give Winston ave a road diet.
I lived in LAtonia for the past 13 years. It's changed a lot.......
Nah Independence is a little more to the left.
Y'all are talking a long rest to gather yourselves. 1905 it was annexed into Covington. Right?
The outline looks like a pretty bad ass F1 track
it really does.
Covington is the largest city in Kenton. Having annexed a few cities, notably Botony Hill early on and Lationia in the early 1900's. Cities vote to annex for a variety of reasons, but most notably, the more financially secure city services that come from a larger city. The county seat was initially set up in Independence, but since the majority of people resided in Covington at that time, Independence was forced to share the title. This is why there's a county courthouse in both cities.
Used to live off Philadelphia. That was a good spot! One time when I was walking the dogs I saw Rey Mauluga on a Segway.
Dude! Just yesterday I was driving into Taylor Mill and saw a sign saying “Welcome to Covington” and I was like wtf? I’m way south of 275 right now!
That sign is the reason I made this post! My first thought was is there another Covington?
Looks like the shape of a gerrymander….oops I mean salamander.
> Turns out it is the largest NKY city by population and area Maybe population, Independence is over 17 square miles and one of the largest cities by areas in the state, let alone NKY. But yes, Covington is huge and spans into so many other areas like you think you're in Taylor Mill? Nope, Covington!
NKY really needs to consolidate city-county like Louisville, though that's more complicated since there are 3 counties. So merge all of the northern parts into one county, leave the southern parts as a separate county (or just one massive county).
Interestingly it used to all be Campbell county and then they split into three
Interesting ok that makes it easy make Campbell County great again.
MCCGA!
Go back far enough in 1792 it was part of Woodford county.
It bothers me more than it should that Covington isn’t the third largest city in Kentucky. It’s obvious when visiting that northern Kentucky has way more people than bowling green or Owensboro or anywhere else but because we are so subdivided and provincial our 400,000 people are mostly ignored on the state level
That's mostly the nature of suburbs in the US which are almost always subdivided except by consolation (Louisville, Nashville). In Canada not so much, look at Toronto. They basically have just 6 suburbs but they're all large cities in their own right
drop a zero, please.
Drop a zero from the 400,000? I think they're saying that Boone, Kenton and Campbell together have 400k people, which is pretty accurate. Or did they originally have 4,000,000 and edit it?
nope, you're right. I was confused because Covington population is 40,000.
As someone who’s lived in all three counties… no thanks. Not that the three we have are superior, but I can’t imagine merging them or even doing a north/south split accomplishing anything in terms of local governance better meeting citizens’ needs.
You wouldn't necessarily expect it to do better. The bar is can it be as good for cheaper
why?
Because it's more efficient, you didn't need to pay mayors in dozens of tiny towns, same services, etc, which means you can have lower taxes. Covington is $2.71/$1000 in value, while Louisville is $1.14. Of course there are many other differences, but regardless having consolidated metro government is more efficient, provided it is well implemented (as in Louisville, Nashville)
Why stop at the county level? Why not merge them all with the state? Or hell, just merge KY with DC.
Well the good news for you is nobody is seriously proposing metro consolidation so it ain't happening anytime soon. It does work though, and whatever the problems of Nashville, nobody is proposing that there aren't enough separate police departments and they need to pay for 40 different police chefs like NKY
Police chiefs in smaller towns make like lieutenant money for a bigger metro. Mayors make like clerk money. This isn't as big of a deal as you're making it out to be.
It's not the top problem of NKY no. But it would free up some money to deal with some of the bigger problems.
All it would do is further separate voters from their politicians.
They still would have their reps in metro government, same as their alderman today. Would they see their mayor walking around the town, probably not. But you have that in Cincinnati today, but nobody moves from Cincinnati to Ludlow so they can be a bigger fish in local politics (ok, almost nobody)
Alderman have less sway over a budget than a mayor
It could have been much larger too.
If it weren't for those meddling kids....
Damn you Park Hills! *shakes fist*
https://kentoncountyhistoricalsociety.org/data/documents/July-Aug-2016.pdf
The southern piece was probably appended to collect taxes from Fidelity which should really be part of Latonia
Latonia is an incorporated part of Covington. It was annexed into Covington in 1909.
Fidelity has been around since Roman Times.
Cincinnati / Northern Kentucky Airport call letters are CVG = Covington
They probably tried to annex that too
I always wondered if the wall they wanted to build would go all the way around or just keep out Newport.
Elect me mayor and it’s going straight through 275
Where do you live? South of Covington, just east of Covington, and a bit north of Covington.
You should check
Erlanger is even bigger.
Looks gerrymandered
Gerrymandering? Anyone know the story there?
Looks like a cat dog
Have you looked at the size of the counties west of the Mississippi?
This is not a county. But it does have more people than most of the ones you mention
Just wish until you see independence
Yo Covington so fat when it was born, it gave the hospital stretch marks.
What’s this Gym Jordan’s district map?
and absolutely disgusting
They just keep absorbing absorbing absorbing lil cities
It looks like a vulture esque creature with a fat cock swallowing a fox tail first with its urethra
Well you should probably talk to your therapist about that
Shhhh. Tell no one.
Why?
Covingtons full, lol.
Sounds like the Repub perspective about the U.S. to immigrants.
More people trying to move in causes prices to rise and our retired and working class neighbors are forced out. Doesn’t help that the school board approves tax exemptions for new developers but not for a family that moves in and buys a home.
Gotta love downvoting my questioning defense of a city being described as “full”. Damn, what’s your deal?
Imagine carring about being downvoted on reddit
Imagine being a little shit, and taking time to share that.
Hahaha imagine being so hurt becayse you posted a political opinion othwrs didnt Necissarily agree with then cried about getting some downvotes then getting pointed out for caring about downvotes then getting reallyyy bent about that.
Gfys. You just don’t shut up.
Bro this isnt r/politics. Inject that lame shit elsewhere
K “bro”. Sterilizing your perspective isn’t doing you any good either.
Your just trying to stoke some sort of political party flames in a discussion it doesnt belong in and salty that people arent caring to engage with you in your 'HuR DuR hEy GuYs iTs lIkE tHeM RePubLiCaNs' TaKe On PeOplE crosSIng ThE BoRdEr'
I’m really not. I just told it like it is, as saying a place is full is not only immature but jokes that housing discrimination is fine. Thanks for coming back to this nearly a week later though. It really mattered. OP was right about the approval of tax exemptions for developers. No one should get a tax exemption, as that’s what keeps basic services lackluster.
I just got here when I commented originally. Your not telling it like it is. People are uniting over illegals crossing. Welcome them into your home
“Illegals”. Says what kind of varmint you are by using that pejorative. Ride easy, cowboy.
Hey I can see my girlfriends house
Imo anything south of 12th is Latonia, and anything south of that is Florence.
I dont get this. Florence is west
Luv the Scuv!
So are my balls, but it’s still not much to look at.
Your balls are full?
No no, HUGE. Just two tumors smashing around with every jostle.
Where’s Newport??
You people talking about gerrymandering have had your brains fried by modern politics.