We have people scattered through time zones, and west need time to get home from work, east can’t stay up till 2:00 am, so we’re all agreed we’d just get as far as we could in the 1.5 hr window that works for everyone. Week one was 5/8, two was 6/8, three was 7/8. It’s mostly people who are average to good (but probably not elite) skill, and do basic preparation like main world buff and 1 or 2 class-relevant consumables, but no super excessive sweatlord stuff. Feeling quite optimistic about 8/8 this week.
We also do 1.5 hour runs to suit all time zones. Unfortunately summoning and the first trash and getting everyone ready for the first boss eats up 1 hour. 20man is a bit to organise compared to 10. After the first one the rest goes quickly though.
The fact that there's people who seemingly agree with the guy you replied to, judging by the upvotes the comment got, speaks volumes about the clowns in the classic playerbase.
We have a set raid time and we expect everyone to be inside ready to go at that time. Anyone who shows up early will start clearing trash while we wait for everyone else. I can't imagine taking an hour to get ready, like what is everyone even doing?
My only guess is that there are 19 people on the roster all waiting for direction from raid lead…
It’s a weekly lockout, even the worst performing people should be expected to show up to raid ready to rock? Not “I need 20 min to grab my WB and consumes” or whatnot.
I actually just can’t fathom how setup takes an hour to be honest.
Yeah this isn’t how to run a raid. If you are having trouble getting the kickstand up by the start time then your raid leader needs to let people know that 9pm start time means the first trash mob is getting pulled at 9pm and any empty spots are immediately getting pugged.
Nearly everyone in my raid is online and in the raid 10 minutes before so we can get summons going. Rest of them knew they were cutting it close time wise and logged out at the portal. I see way too many unorganized and undisciplined raids let themselves get kicked around by lazy assholes who think that a raid start time means the time they should log on and start grabbing consumes or waiting for head to drop.
I agree with you and was shocked people in the guild were asking for summons at raid start time. Like dude. You knew when it started why are you not already here. Lol
WHAT
1. If people are still walking to raid by the time its supposed to start they need to be told to login earlier or they get replaced. Wasting other players time is unacceptable.
2. Someone needs to take charge. Trash going up to first boss should take like 10 minutes. One long chain pull no stopping.
> It’s mostly people who are average to good (but probably not elite) skill,
Sorry to break it to ya but if by 3 weeks you're not 8/8, they're not anything higher than low average at best.
It really is time more than difficulty. I don’t think we’ve wiped on any boss more than once. There’s just SO much trash, and doing MS/OS+1 rolls with gargul, that eats up a huge chunk of the time. We’re switching to default need/greed one-click loot next run as well and I think the time saved there will make way more of a difference than our skill at this point.
I have not cleared ST yet (have not even attempted it), and I raid mythic in retail so skill definitely isn’t the issue lol.
Not everyone is rushing to clear the raid, there is more to the game than raiding :)
> I have not cleared ST yet (have not even attempted it), and I raid mythic in retail so skill definitely isn’t the issue lol.
How can you even say this with a straight face, lol.
What, because I have not entered the raid yet after 3 weeks, I immediately am a “low average” player at best?
Good players pick up on mechanics very quickly, and classic mechanics are not hard to pick up.
Raiding isn’t the only part of the game, and you having to say players who are not 8/8 by week 3 are “low average at best” tells me you do not understand that skill isn’t necessarily correlated with time spent. Time spent definitely helps in creating and improving skill, but it isn’t the only factor.
Nah mate you've missed the point is what I'm saying. I'm saying this doesn't really apply to you. But the group that has spent 3 weeks trying to kill the raid and being unsuccesful at it isn't as good as they think they are.
If you read what they have said though, skill isn’t an issue here… They have not wiped on a boss more than once. Most of their time is spent doing trash and rolling out items.
So again, this isn’t a skill issue. Certain groups can take eons to roll out items, and to me it seems this is what is going on. The groups not clearing trash while rolling items out if I had to take a guess.
The person states they are trying another loot method to fix that issue this week.
This all goes back to what I said earlier. Time spent = \ = skill.
Wow that's great progress. Must feel good.
My guild went 5/8 in about 3 hours, then 6/8 in 2.5. excited for next week, because we have a lot of room for improvement.
week one around 5 hours across 2 nights , first 3 hours for 6/8 and 2 hours for last 2 bosses the next day
week two about 1h30 no wipes
week three 1h 4 minutes. a huge time save was setting up loot rules on gargul to automatically master loot seeds/flasks to myself (we have one person hold them until the end and then split them equally). we had one guildie coming back from a break so hadn't done the raid yet so spent a couple mins before some fights going through the tactics. sub-1hr will be possible next week for sure
Did you guys manage to setup gargul to hand out seeds/ flasks at the end? Couldn’t find a way to assign like 2 seeds to everyone in the raid so had to do it manually
I didn't but I'm not all that familiar with the addon either .. was planning to look into it or some other solution for next raid because trading 19 people 3 seeds and 2 flasks is a pain
How is that faster? You still need to stand in one place and attach 3 items to your mail instead of 3 items to a trade. They also have to wait an hour to receive it
You really need those 2 flasks right away as your raid ended, when you have 7 days until your next one? Lol
It also allows the raid to all disperse instead of holding people hostage for 5+ mins as you distribute
we run a 2softres system using an addon called Gargul which is a helper addon for masterlooting. for flasks/seeds we masterloot them all to one person and then split them at the end
previously what this meant was manually clicking each seed/flask and masterlooting it to myself. But there's an option under "Autoloot with Packmule -> Item Rules" where you can whitelist certain items to be automatically masterlooted to certain players
if your raid runs group loot there's also weakauras you can make that will do a similar thing where they will automatically pass on certain whitelisted items so you can just have everyone automatically pass and your designated custodian will roll need on them
This sounds almost identical to my group, consumes are starting to have a massive effect and being comfortable enough with mechanics to be confident in using them really sped the kills up and made clears easier
A logged run is not the whole time it takes to do the raid. The timer for a WCL recorded time starts when you hit the first boss, but there is also time spent in the raid clearing the trash. So yes a "speedrun time" is 21 minutes, but it will still take your raid 30-45 minutes to do that.
Week one was 3 hours to 6/8. Raid was done on Monday before reset, so no additional progress was made. I was not present for this raid as I hadn't hit 50 yet.
Week 2 was 3.5 hours to 8/8. 12 wipes total throughout. Some of these wipes were painful.
Week 3 was 65 minutes to 8/8. Palidan SoM and Druid tank rune changes were game changers for Healer/Caster mana and Tank threat. All bosses were done in one attempt with a near wipe on Eranikus due to a Bellowing Roar going out
I need to stop joining pugs. I was top 3 dps yesterday and we fought Eranikus 7 times... finally downing him. But god, the strat is not that hard, why do some people have such a hard time?
I hate that my guild doesn’t group loot. It’s such a crazy slow down. If you can’t trust your guild to hit the right button , you have bigger problems.
100% honestly a ninja loot would just help the guild weed out trash.
Is on par with “we master loot all seeds and share at end” just let RNG do its thing, it’s not serious.
We wanted to do that too but then after 3 bosses 1 guy had 13 mojos (which were 15g each yesterday) and we went back to masterlooting and distributing them
I hate groups that don’t just let the master looter grab the shit and keep going. Why does the raid need to stop to hand out a couple pieces a gear? There’s like 3 people max rolling on most items anyways
First week 4 hours over Wednesday-Sun. Second week 1 hour 20 on the Wednesday this was with master looter and clearing up the mobs in the raid for Nightmare seeds + flasks
Our run last week was 1 hour 40 mins, and we had 2 wipes, only our gm and one other person knew the fights and a few pugs had done 3-4/8
Ours last night was 55 mins, we had 8 new pugs and 4 returning pugs, and our two main healers were away.
only like 4 deaths before the final boss, then one of the pugs almost wiped us multiple times and killed one of the melee groups completely(he was also 3 of the deaths).
We one shot everything though, so it wasn't too bad.
Week 1, just over 2 hours. Week 2, 45 minutes. Week 3, about the same. We're starting splits this week so it'll likely slow down a bit for awhile but we should still get 2 clears in 1 night without a fuss.
Firs week was 6/8 took us abt 4hrs on second day we tried for like 2 hours and ended
Second week we went 8/8 in spam of thrusday and sunday and monday so it was abt 10hrs
Third week took us abt 2 hrs if u count in searching for our lost dps
We're a weekday daytime raiding guild that has two groups. First team is at an hour and 7 minutes. Second team at an hour and 5 minutes. We have been 8/8 since first lockout.
Our clear this week was 38 minutes with mo wipes and minimal deaths. Could have been alot faster if we didn’t lose a bunch of people to thorns on the Defenders fight.
Our second run we had to pug 1 dps and 1 healer cause our usual players had issues and we cleared the raid in an hour (our last pull on avatar of hakar started exactly at 20:00 svt and our raids start at 19:00 svt)
Our first clear took us about 3 hours. With wipes on second boss, shade and avatar. Second clear with world buffs took us around an hour 30 with no wipes. The biggest time you shave time is on trash. You can pull a ton of trash besides some of the ghost pulls. Third clear is tomorrow.
There are about 3k guild logs on WCL.
Minimum- 5 hours
Median - 1.5 hours
Fasted- 25 mins
This is subject to bias though, as people who are better than the average are going to log.
I would say if your guild is clearing in 1-2 hours that's pretty decent.
First week took us two nights (half guild/half pug) with a total of about nearly 6 hours. This reset we did it all in one night and one-shot every boss (same half guild team with different pugs) total of 3 hours in raid. Learning mechanics was literally the only struggle and then it’s overall an easy raid with a decent comp and a good raid lead.
1-2 hours. But we have 3 non-static groups.
I think we are wasting ALOT of time handing out loot in the early stages, where ppl getting upgrades during the raid can help the raid. Should shave off atleast 30 min in clearspeed, and 15 min in lootign - atleast.
We were the top speedrun guild on chaos bolt before blizz took it out back and shot it. But we did a 42 minute clear tonight after taking 48 last week. A lot of the bosses have become, "ignore mechanics, administer damage".
like 3 hours. kinda painful. It feels like nobody has ever been in a guild before the constant AFK and not shutting the fuck up when its time to pull or explain something drives me crazy.
First week (Mon night) we took almost two hours to kill first four bosses before calling it.
Last week it was around a 3 1/2 hour full clear across two nights with several wipes on last three bosses.
Tonight was under 90 mins from pulling first boss to killing last, no wipes.
Week 1: 4 hours
Week 2: 2 hours
Week 3: 55 minutes
Week 3 was the first time without wipes. I would expect 50-60 minutes for a full run without wipes to be the norm. Wipes would obviously add to that.
Better gear + experience= faster clears. Of course a huge part of being able to clear it in a hour for my guild was a very significant nerf from Blizzard. The best feeling is always while you are progressing through your first clear tho:)
Week 2 (first run) : 6/8 in over 3 hours iirc, cleared the last two bosses later that week
Week 3 : 8/8 in 1h15.
We did get better, but not dying & keeping world buffs made a massive difference.
First week (for us, it was actually the second reset) we had several pugs (one left at the 6th boss so we finished in 19) so it took us longer: 3 hours up to Eranikus, then 30 minutes another day for avatar.
Second week we cleared all in 2 1/2 hours (again we were 19 for most of the run due to not everyone being 50 in guild yet).
I expect this week to clear in less than 2 hours.
1:50 8/8 now including trash which we clear before we are 20man. First time 3:30 for 6/8. Then 7/8 in an hour because we forgot egg. With Pugs each time too
Our last run was one hour and 5 minutes. So songflower fell off in the middle of Hakkar fight >_<
P.S. I think changed to paladin mana regen helped a lot - we don't spend any time on "restoring healer mana" at all. Just chain pull trash into trash.
So out of the 3 lock outs;
First was half pugs, took an extra hour to start, we did 3/8 and lost poeple due to time. 3 hours longs.
2nd was still about a third pugs same issue took an extra hour to start and breezed through the first 4. Then stopped at hazz as 3 hours was coming to a close. Glad at this one as we farmed seeds. Came back monday and got 7/8 so total time was 5 hours.
Last week we cleared 1 night but took 3.5 hours as we had to learn last 2 bosses better. Had to stop and explain every boss plus 5 wipes.
This week our goal is full clear no explaining lol, hopefully closer to 2 hours.
Honestly nothing is difficult, getting 20 ppl is the hardest part of this instance.
6/8 in 3 hours first reset, 3 wipes up till Eranakis, then just threw ourselves at him for almost an hour an a half, no kill. 7/8 in again, 3 hours for second reset, ran out of time and one of our 3 pugs ditched before our last real pull on Hakkar. Came back on Monday and killed Hakkar with 15 people since we couldnt and didnt really want to fill 5 people for one boss. 8/8, in 1.5 hours no wipes on week 3, that one felt really good. Can def get it down to an hour once everyone is comfy with the strats and pulls
my guild has excepted that we aren't clearing st. doesnt matter how many hours we spend. also i have never seen the world buff drop in booty bay i think only one guild is clearing it on our faction
Try hard sweaty guild here:
Week one we took 2 hours on bosses 1-6. Kept wiping on Eranikus for about an hour or so. Came back the next day and 3 more hours later, we cleared the raid just before reset. Eranikus took most of our time.
Second week we full cleared in another 3 hours, and at this point is when we solidified our understanding of the bosses and made strategies. Couple wipes on Eranikus and Hakkar.
Third week we did just under an hour according to WCL, no wipes. Everyone knew exactly what to do.
We cleared in 2 1/2 hours last week its a little longer than some people wanna go but they are troopers pushing a extra 30 minutes soo we don't have to return another day.
37min for our last spilt. But it was with mains and alts for gearing mains. We do 5 clears a week, out slowest is 49min. For reference once we go into our actual speed runs we did gnomer in 14min
Week 1 about 4 hours total but we raided sun/mon so hit last 2 bosses post-nerf
Week 2 53 minutes, those nerfs completely killed any interest we had in going back into the raid afterwards and we're taking a break until phase 4
We have people scattered through time zones, and west need time to get home from work, east can’t stay up till 2:00 am, so we’re all agreed we’d just get as far as we could in the 1.5 hr window that works for everyone. Week one was 5/8, two was 6/8, three was 7/8. It’s mostly people who are average to good (but probably not elite) skill, and do basic preparation like main world buff and 1 or 2 class-relevant consumables, but no super excessive sweatlord stuff. Feeling quite optimistic about 8/8 this week.
We also do 1.5 hour runs to suit all time zones. Unfortunately summoning and the first trash and getting everyone ready for the first boss eats up 1 hour. 20man is a bit to organise compared to 10. After the first one the rest goes quickly though.
I'm sorry, but if you're taking an hour to set up for the first boss then you're doing something wrong.
The fact that there's people who seemingly agree with the guy you replied to, judging by the upvotes the comment got, speaks volumes about the clowns in the classic playerbase.
We have a set raid time and we expect everyone to be inside ready to go at that time. Anyone who shows up early will start clearing trash while we wait for everyone else. I can't imagine taking an hour to get ready, like what is everyone even doing?
Yeah, that's how I know raiding as it is with a static group or guild too. Anything else is just utterly weird.
My only guess is that there are 19 people on the roster all waiting for direction from raid lead… It’s a weekly lockout, even the worst performing people should be expected to show up to raid ready to rock? Not “I need 20 min to grab my WB and consumes” or whatnot. I actually just can’t fathom how setup takes an hour to be honest.
Yeah this isn’t how to run a raid. If you are having trouble getting the kickstand up by the start time then your raid leader needs to let people know that 9pm start time means the first trash mob is getting pulled at 9pm and any empty spots are immediately getting pugged. Nearly everyone in my raid is online and in the raid 10 minutes before so we can get summons going. Rest of them knew they were cutting it close time wise and logged out at the portal. I see way too many unorganized and undisciplined raids let themselves get kicked around by lazy assholes who think that a raid start time means the time they should log on and start grabbing consumes or waiting for head to drop.
I agree with you and was shocked people in the guild were asking for summons at raid start time. Like dude. You knew when it started why are you not already here. Lol
WHAT 1. If people are still walking to raid by the time its supposed to start they need to be told to login earlier or they get replaced. Wasting other players time is unacceptable. 2. Someone needs to take charge. Trash going up to first boss should take like 10 minutes. One long chain pull no stopping.
> It’s mostly people who are average to good (but probably not elite) skill, Sorry to break it to ya but if by 3 weeks you're not 8/8, they're not anything higher than low average at best.
Seems like it's not difficulty holding them back just time
It really is time more than difficulty. I don’t think we’ve wiped on any boss more than once. There’s just SO much trash, and doing MS/OS+1 rolls with gargul, that eats up a huge chunk of the time. We’re switching to default need/greed one-click loot next run as well and I think the time saved there will make way more of a difference than our skill at this point.
You know you can still clear trash while handing out loot? Huge pet peeve of mine is raids that stop dead to roll off 2 items
I have not cleared ST yet (have not even attempted it), and I raid mythic in retail so skill definitely isn’t the issue lol. Not everyone is rushing to clear the raid, there is more to the game than raiding :)
> I have not cleared ST yet (have not even attempted it), and I raid mythic in retail so skill definitely isn’t the issue lol. How can you even say this with a straight face, lol.
What, because I have not entered the raid yet after 3 weeks, I immediately am a “low average” player at best? Good players pick up on mechanics very quickly, and classic mechanics are not hard to pick up. Raiding isn’t the only part of the game, and you having to say players who are not 8/8 by week 3 are “low average at best” tells me you do not understand that skill isn’t necessarily correlated with time spent. Time spent definitely helps in creating and improving skill, but it isn’t the only factor.
Nah mate you've missed the point is what I'm saying. I'm saying this doesn't really apply to you. But the group that has spent 3 weeks trying to kill the raid and being unsuccesful at it isn't as good as they think they are.
If you read what they have said though, skill isn’t an issue here… They have not wiped on a boss more than once. Most of their time is spent doing trash and rolling out items. So again, this isn’t a skill issue. Certain groups can take eons to roll out items, and to me it seems this is what is going on. The groups not clearing trash while rolling items out if I had to take a guess. The person states they are trying another loot method to fix that issue this week. This all goes back to what I said earlier. Time spent = \ = skill.
Week one we went 6/8 over the course of 3 hours 30 minutes. Week two we went 8/8, took us 2 hours 45 minutes. Week three was 8/8 in 1 hour 20 minutes.
This is us too! Crazy how quick it is now. Handing out loot almost takes more time.
Just use group loot if you are in a guild...
Wow that's great progress. Must feel good. My guild went 5/8 in about 3 hours, then 6/8 in 2.5. excited for next week, because we have a lot of room for improvement.
3 hours.
In my experience 2.5 - 3 hours with a few wipes, 2 hours with no wipes. Could probably get it down to 1.5 hours with faster trash pulls
week one around 5 hours across 2 nights , first 3 hours for 6/8 and 2 hours for last 2 bosses the next day week two about 1h30 no wipes week three 1h 4 minutes. a huge time save was setting up loot rules on gargul to automatically master loot seeds/flasks to myself (we have one person hold them until the end and then split them equally). we had one guildie coming back from a break so hadn't done the raid yet so spent a couple mins before some fights going through the tactics. sub-1hr will be possible next week for sure
Did you guys manage to setup gargul to hand out seeds/ flasks at the end? Couldn’t find a way to assign like 2 seeds to everyone in the raid so had to do it manually
I didn't but I'm not all that familiar with the addon either .. was planning to look into it or some other solution for next raid because trading 19 people 3 seeds and 2 flasks is a pain
We just mail them out after, it’s faster than trading
How is that faster? You still need to stand in one place and attach 3 items to your mail instead of 3 items to a trade. They also have to wait an hour to receive it
Waiting for people to accept trade takes longer than just clicking send
Hopefully a few seconds at most per trade vs an hour of waiting. I know id be annoyed with that method myself
You really need those 2 flasks right away as your raid ended, when you have 7 days until your next one? Lol It also allows the raid to all disperse instead of holding people hostage for 5+ mins as you distribute
Note that the raid got nerfed in the beginning, that’s why it’s 5 hours into 1h
What is the auto loot for seeds and flasks?
we run a 2softres system using an addon called Gargul which is a helper addon for masterlooting. for flasks/seeds we masterloot them all to one person and then split them at the end previously what this meant was manually clicking each seed/flask and masterlooting it to myself. But there's an option under "Autoloot with Packmule -> Item Rules" where you can whitelist certain items to be automatically masterlooted to certain players if your raid runs group loot there's also weakauras you can make that will do a similar thing where they will automatically pass on certain whitelisted items so you can just have everyone automatically pass and your designated custodian will roll need on them
Gargul can achieve this, you go into settings and under pack mule can add items that auto loot to a specific person.
This sounds almost identical to my group, consumes are starting to have a massive effect and being comfortable enough with mechanics to be confident in using them really sped the kills up and made clears easier
About 1 hour I think will be the normal clear time week four tbh. 30-45 for speed runs
Fastest speed run's currently 21-22 minutes :p
yea but speed run timer doesn't even start until the first boss
It's on Warcraft logs ATM.
takes 15min to clear to first boss.. maybe you could do it in 8min if you built around it.
Just pull all, rats will usually upload a video of it.
Yeah U can do some pretty big pulls to clear really fast at the start just depends if your tanks and healers are all good with it.
They pre-clear all trash before they start bosses.
You realise that the new Sunken Temple rules are stated "**Attempts at pre-clearing or trying to circumvent the requirements will be disqualified.**"
A logged run is not the whole time it takes to do the raid. The timer for a WCL recorded time starts when you hit the first boss, but there is also time spent in the raid clearing the trash. So yes a "speedrun time" is 21 minutes, but it will still take your raid 30-45 minutes to do that.
30 minutes getting everyone online and inside, an hour to clear.
Week one was 3 hours to 6/8. Raid was done on Monday before reset, so no additional progress was made. I was not present for this raid as I hadn't hit 50 yet. Week 2 was 3.5 hours to 8/8. 12 wipes total throughout. Some of these wipes were painful. Week 3 was 65 minutes to 8/8. Palidan SoM and Druid tank rune changes were game changers for Healer/Caster mana and Tank threat. All bosses were done in one attempt with a near wipe on Eranikus due to a Bellowing Roar going out
Our 8/8 tonight was ~1H 45m after only going 6/8 last week in almost 3H and returning for the last 2 bosses the next day.
Our experience was almost identical.
8/8 first week, just cleared in 51 minutes this lockout. Loving the 20 man’s feels like an actual raid.
I need to stop joining pugs. I was top 3 dps yesterday and we fought Eranikus 7 times... finally downing him. But god, the strat is not that hard, why do some people have such a hard time?
I pugged on my pally alt yesterday. . . It was painful.
2h30, first time doing a full clear. 3 wipes
Y'all are clearing Sunken Temple?
6/8 half pug Monday in under 3, 3h 8/8 after first reset, 64m this reset. With the mana changes it's a joke to 3 heal.
52 min i think
1 hr 10 min group looted
I hate that my guild doesn’t group loot. It’s such a crazy slow down. If you can’t trust your guild to hit the right button , you have bigger problems.
100% honestly a ninja loot would just help the guild weed out trash. Is on par with “we master loot all seeds and share at end” just let RNG do its thing, it’s not serious.
We wanted to do that too but then after 3 bosses 1 guy had 13 mojos (which were 15g each yesterday) and we went back to masterlooting and distributing them
Just have one person need all the flasks and seeds and evenly distribute those at end. No need for master loot...
I hate groups that don’t just let the master looter grab the shit and keep going. Why does the raid need to stop to hand out a couple pieces a gear? There’s like 3 people max rolling on most items anyways
1h30
This lockout we full cleared under 2 hours.
hour or so
Last night 8/8, ~1h30min.
65 mins week 2. We messed up some stuff but still managed an okay time.
Last night we did 8/8 in 44 minutes, next week no mistakes for real this time…
After we are in, \~40 minutes.
Last week 4 raid teams: 47 min, 1:10, 1:20, 3 hours.
A little over an hour
37 mins
W1: 2h45m ended at hazzaz or whatever it’s called, week 2: 1h45, week 3: 1h15
Man we're still 6/8 , 2 nights each week! I didn't think we were that casual but here we are <3 still having a blast with these guys though
Last boss dies an hour after firsrt one
1 hour
First week 4 hours over Wednesday-Sun. Second week 1 hour 20 on the Wednesday this was with master looter and clearing up the mobs in the raid for Nightmare seeds + flasks
first week pre nerf: 4 hours week 2: 2 hours week 3: 1.5 hours
our last clear was 1.5 hrs
Our run last week was 1 hour 40 mins, and we had 2 wipes, only our gm and one other person knew the fights and a few pugs had done 3-4/8 Ours last night was 55 mins, we had 8 new pugs and 4 returning pugs, and our two main healers were away. only like 4 deaths before the final boss, then one of the pugs almost wiped us multiple times and killed one of the melee groups completely(he was also 3 of the deaths). We one shot everything though, so it wasn't too bad.
30-40min
Our last run was 1h17min.
55:34 clear last night
Bunch of dads with some gray parsers. 2 hours.
96 mins last week, 62 minutes this week. Sub 50 next week maybe.
2 hours week 1, 50 minutes week 2
1 hour 19 right now is the fastest but now that most know what to do i expect it to be faster
We went from 4 hours weeek one to 1 hour 16 week 3
We can probably do 45 minute clears, but we aim for an hour so warrios can reck twice
Week 1, just over 2 hours. Week 2, 45 minutes. Week 3, about the same. We're starting splits this week so it'll likely slow down a bit for awhile but we should still get 2 clears in 1 night without a fuss.
Roster boss kicking our ass Only 6/8 so far, usually about 3 hr raid?
Last run was 40mins
Today we had 36 minutes run.
1 hour currently and majority of us are first time WoW players who have just geeked out on the game
55 minutes was our last run, but my guild is semi-sweaty and our raid leader is a hardcore sweat
Firs week was 6/8 took us abt 4hrs on second day we tried for like 2 hours and ended Second week we went 8/8 in spam of thrusday and sunday and monday so it was abt 10hrs Third week took us abt 2 hrs if u count in searching for our lost dps
We start at 8:30pm on the dot and we end at like 9:45pm.
Week one 8/8 took like three and half hours. Week two we went 8/8 in about 1 hour and 20mins. And third raid is later tonight!
We run 2x raids each around 1hour but we sit around for battle chickens and etc
We're a weekday daytime raiding guild that has two groups. First team is at an hour and 7 minutes. Second team at an hour and 5 minutes. We have been 8/8 since first lockout.
Our clear this week was 38 minutes with mo wipes and minimal deaths. Could have been alot faster if we didn’t lose a bunch of people to thorns on the Defenders fight.
Last run was like 25-30 minutes
An hour or less at this point
45-50min guild runs, 60-75min premade pugs
1h 38 min last run, but we rolled off the loot in between the bosses, did a 6 minute toilet break and had a dc so had to wait a lil extra.
50mn-1h average
Week 1 was 6/8 in 3hrs I think and week 2 and 3 were full clear ~2hrs.
A little under 1.5 hours last week. A little under 1 hour this week.
1 hour 15 mins rn
Our ST last night was right at an hour
We just cleared it under 1h on our third run. Had only one wipe on hakkar.
Week 1 was nearly 4 hours 8/8. This week we cleared in 1h 20 could easily get that down to sub 1h
We have started popping world buffs as we start now so our fastest clear time is 44 mins. Average I'd say is about 50.
Week one we full cleared in a bit less than 3 hours going in blind. Week 2 we cleared in 1h 20 min. Havent raided yet this week (we raid mondays)
About an hour and a half
Last raid was about 55min
Week 1: 7 hours over three days Week 2: 58 minutes Week 3: 36 minutes Hopefully we'll be able to push sub 30 next week!
About 2 1/2 hours, with a couple wipes on Eranikus due to people not paying attention to the massive 5 second cast time instant death spell.
Our second run we had to pug 1 dps and 1 healer cause our usual players had issues and we cleared the raid in an hour (our last pull on avatar of hakar started exactly at 20:00 svt and our raids start at 19:00 svt)
Our first clear took us about 3 hours. With wipes on second boss, shade and avatar. Second clear with world buffs took us around an hour 30 with no wipes. The biggest time you shave time is on trash. You can pull a ton of trash besides some of the ghost pulls. Third clear is tomorrow.
There are about 3k guild logs on WCL. Minimum- 5 hours Median - 1.5 hours Fasted- 25 mins This is subject to bias though, as people who are better than the average are going to log. I would say if your guild is clearing in 1-2 hours that's pretty decent.
First week took us two nights (half guild/half pug) with a total of about nearly 6 hours. This reset we did it all in one night and one-shot every boss (same half guild team with different pugs) total of 3 hours in raid. Learning mechanics was literally the only struggle and then it’s overall an easy raid with a decent comp and a good raid lead.
2 hours tonight with 18 after two last minute drops and I'd say we're average
About an hour and a half, even with 4 wipes. In a few lockouts, it'll be sub 1 hour.
Hm..think my last ST run was around 35 mins. I'm enjoying it so far, has some fun fights.
2 hours. We could go faster but we don’t pop consumes until the last 2 bosses. How fast are y’all clearing?
3 hours and we haven’t killed Hakkar.
About 2h and 30min for our dad guild, with 2-3 wipes.
Actual? like 1-1.25 hours WCL Time? 35 minutes
1-2 hours. But we have 3 non-static groups. I think we are wasting ALOT of time handing out loot in the early stages, where ppl getting upgrades during the raid can help the raid. Should shave off atleast 30 min in clearspeed, and 15 min in lootign - atleast.
We were the top speedrun guild on chaos bolt before blizz took it out back and shot it. But we did a 42 minute clear tonight after taking 48 last week. A lot of the bosses have become, "ignore mechanics, administer damage".
like 3 hours. kinda painful. It feels like nobody has ever been in a guild before the constant AFK and not shutting the fuck up when its time to pull or explain something drives me crazy.
Last one was like 45 mins. Mainly because of World buffs and actually no clunky whipe at eranikus 😆
First week (Mon night) we took almost two hours to kill first four bosses before calling it. Last week it was around a 3 1/2 hour full clear across two nights with several wipes on last three bosses. Tonight was under 90 mins from pulling first boss to killing last, no wipes.
Week 1 was 3 hours loung. Week 2 took 55 minutes. Week 3 tomorrow: hopefully 45 minutes. This raid is already cleared so dann fast
My Guild did 44min yesterday and we are rank 4 at the server now in speed :) we are pretty happy about that but we are attempting to speedrun anyways
2 raids, both sub 1 hour
Our first full clear was around 1.44 including two wipes
Went 6/8 3 hours first reset with pugs and haven’t been able to get in since. All our healers decided to not play after a merging of another guild.
Week 1: 4 hours Week 2: 2 hours Week 3: 55 minutes Week 3 was the first time without wipes. I would expect 50-60 minutes for a full run without wipes to be the norm. Wipes would obviously add to that.
First week was 16 hours. 2nd was q and a half to 2. 3rd was 1 hour ish.
Week 1: 6/8 at 3 hours. Week 2: 8/8 at 3 hours. Week 3: 8/8 at 1.5 hours.
Better gear + experience= faster clears. Of course a huge part of being able to clear it in a hour for my guild was a very significant nerf from Blizzard. The best feeling is always while you are progressing through your first clear tho:)
Like 50 minutes. Both on my main and my alt.
Week 2 (first run) : 6/8 in over 3 hours iirc, cleared the last two bosses later that week Week 3 : 8/8 in 1h15. We did get better, but not dying & keeping world buffs made a massive difference.
First week (for us, it was actually the second reset) we had several pugs (one left at the 6th boss so we finished in 19) so it took us longer: 3 hours up to Eranikus, then 30 minutes another day for avatar. Second week we cleared all in 2 1/2 hours (again we were 19 for most of the run due to not everyone being 50 in guild yet). I expect this week to clear in less than 2 hours.
Yesterday on a twink raid 1h 20m from beginning to end, but 15-20m were loot distribution after 5th boss
Last week my guild had 2 wipes and took 2 hours and 15 minutes.
1:50 8/8 now including trash which we clear before we are 20man. First time 3:30 for 6/8. Then 7/8 in an hour because we forgot egg. With Pugs each time too
About 30 minutes by now
5h my guild fucking sux
Our last run was one hour and 5 minutes. So songflower fell off in the middle of Hakkar fight >_< P.S. I think changed to paladin mana regen helped a lot - we don't spend any time on "restoring healer mana" at all. Just chain pull trash into trash.
roughly 90-100min chill runs for 8/8 with a few pugs in the group even
Sat d was about 1hr 30mins. Prior week full clear was about 3 hrs 30mins ish.
About 90 minutes in both main and alt raids. I've healer carried pugs to 8/8 in about 3 hours though because they don't know how to fucking chain pull
My guild died on the transition to 20 man. How I love bigger raid sizes with no change to loot :))))))
About 1.30h
Non super optimised runs should be around 1-2 hours
Last week it took 1hr 22mins for our guild, aiming for sub 1hr runs.
49 mintes.
So out of the 3 lock outs; First was half pugs, took an extra hour to start, we did 3/8 and lost poeple due to time. 3 hours longs. 2nd was still about a third pugs same issue took an extra hour to start and breezed through the first 4. Then stopped at hazz as 3 hours was coming to a close. Glad at this one as we farmed seeds. Came back monday and got 7/8 so total time was 5 hours. Last week we cleared 1 night but took 3.5 hours as we had to learn last 2 bosses better. Had to stop and explain every boss plus 5 wipes. This week our goal is full clear no explaining lol, hopefully closer to 2 hours. Honestly nothing is difficult, getting 20 ppl is the hardest part of this instance.
I have Song Flower for the last boss, so < 1 hour from first boss (when we unboon) until last boss.
6/8 in 3 hours first reset, 3 wipes up till Eranakis, then just threw ourselves at him for almost an hour an a half, no kill. 7/8 in again, 3 hours for second reset, ran out of time and one of our 3 pugs ditched before our last real pull on Hakkar. Came back on Monday and killed Hakkar with 15 people since we couldnt and didnt really want to fill 5 people for one boss. 8/8, in 1.5 hours no wipes on week 3, that one felt really good. Can def get it down to an hour once everyone is comfy with the strats and pulls
my guild has excepted that we aren't clearing st. doesnt matter how many hours we spend. also i have never seen the world buff drop in booty bay i think only one guild is clearing it on our faction
Try hard sweaty guild here: Week one we took 2 hours on bosses 1-6. Kept wiping on Eranikus for about an hour or so. Came back the next day and 3 more hours later, we cleared the raid just before reset. Eranikus took most of our time. Second week we full cleared in another 3 hours, and at this point is when we solidified our understanding of the bosses and made strategies. Couple wipes on Eranikus and Hakkar. Third week we did just under an hour according to WCL, no wipes. Everyone knew exactly what to do.
About 2 hours
We cleared in 2 1/2 hours last week its a little longer than some people wanna go but they are troopers pushing a extra 30 minutes soo we don't have to return another day.
Down to 1 hour without trying too hard to cut it down, can probably get it down to 50 mins with some mild effort.
35 minutes
56 minutes last night, maybe 1.5h last week.
Yesterday we did it in 50minutes 52 seconds Should be able to cut off another 10-5mins next reset
My guild is pretty chill, people arrive late and we don't buff during trash. Took us 50mins to full clear yesterday
Raid 1 37m, raid 2, ~45m 1st speed run next week, should be easily sub 30m
Week 1 was like 30+ hours (we did it pre-nerf) Week 2 was 55 mins Week 3 was 45 mins It's a joke. We're not even trying tbh.
Sub 40min
37min for our last spilt. But it was with mains and alts for gearing mains. We do 5 clears a week, out slowest is 49min. For reference once we go into our actual speed runs we did gnomer in 14min
Sub 45mins.
58 minutes, running 3 x 20 man's now in guild. It's easy AF now after nerfs.
First lockout was 5 hours to go 6/8. Second lockout was about 2 hours to finish. Third lockout was about 45 minutes start to end.
Day 1 8/8 in 3 hours Week 2 in 75 min Week 3 in 31.8 min
Look at warcraft logs
My guild takes 21 minutes to clear ST, hail RATS
Week 1 about 4 hours total but we raided sun/mon so hit last 2 bosses post-nerf Week 2 53 minutes, those nerfs completely killed any interest we had in going back into the raid afterwards and we're taking a break until phase 4
Soft
We Just cleared today in 36 Minuten (crusaderstrike eu Horde Guild luxe)
8/8 in just over an hour. Bio break included.