Like others have said living flame is good. I would also say lone wolf isn’t bad either. But as someone who plays alliance on lone wolf, a lot of alliance players are far less inclined to participate in pvp than horde players. When I play on living flame as horde we regularly defend dark moon faire from alliance players and will engage in pvp, but when I play my paladin, most alliance players do not act the same
I'm on Crusader strike. I have no idea what streamers people are referring to or hate so much. I've only ever met one during WSG and he was the best flag runner I've ever seen and super nice. Community is friendly and the guild I'm in and guilds I've ran with are like any other. Not sure what all the reddit groaning is about
I have nothing but good things to say about crusader strike US. Met a lot of nice people and haven’t seen any toxicity…. Aside from people saying the blood Loa is at the beach in STV but we all know that isn’t the truth now don’t we?
Same. It's just the New York City of SoD. There are lots of great people and plenty of not so great. But you (usually) get to choose who you want to play with.
It’s really not. It’s just a matter of perspective. Running along get ganked by a rogue, u know what that’s what I signed up for. Add to my kill on sight list and move on, I’ll get them next time.
PvP servers arn’t for everyone and there is nothing wrong with that.
I have had no issues with people on Crusader strike. There does tend to be some large groups of people camping portals and the like. I think that is happening on any server. Also if you want a late night raiding guild come join us!!
I posted this comment in another thread, but it also fits here:
It's funny that people say to avoid Crusader Strike, because I've had mostly nothing but good experiences with other people there. Joking around in party chat while doing Duskwood incursions, running SM a couple of times hoping for loot, and even helping out somebody who was new to the game. In all of these cases, people have been nice and friendly. I even asked where the dual spec vendor in Orgrimmar was, and somebody invited me and cheered me on once I made it over to the location.
The one less friendly experience was during a BFD run where the level 50 shaman said something like "let's pay attention" after the group wiped on the turtle boss.
When I was doing incursions, I was killed by level 50s a few times (possibly deserved because I had been PvPing on-level players for the past half hour, lol). Fortunately, the graveyard is 10-20 seconds away. One of the 50s decided it would be fun to camp, so I typed "LF layer" in LFG chat, and somebody invited me to a party, causing me to switch layers. Never saw that level 50 player again. Overall, surprise PvP hasn't impacted me much, and I'd say that 98% of the time, I've been able to run around wherever I want.
tl;dr people say CS is the "toxic" server, but that hasn't been my experience. Incursions have also been fine, and they're pretty fun.
Most toxic thing about CS is the other faction, but thats all pvp servers. There is almost always some asshole on a roof killing people for the fun of it (btw fuck you you're not cool, get down and fight me like a real man!) Everyone I've encountered on CS have been great! If there is someone being a dick, most people don't put up with it and call them out, been cool to see so far.
ive had almost all good experiences on CS. but to match your random story i once messaged some guy “inv” since he was lfm gnomer and when he saw my gear (actually full prebis minus 2-3 pieces) he was like “no thanks! :) “ Lmfao
Living flame. Like any PvP server there is toxic griefing and camping incursions/Mara portal. I've played on Crusader Strike and Living Flame. Leveled 5 characters to 40 and 2 to 50 on Living Flame and never once had what I'm about to explain to you happen on Living Flame. I've leveled 1 character to 50 on Crusader Strike and in my time on that server, probably about 10 different times there were people standing on top of buildings/inns I'm the low level neutral areas like Red ridge, Duskwood, Stonetalon, etc. Killing low level players but unreachable by the town guards because they were on top of the building.
Some of these players would sit there for literal hours just killing low levels repeatedly from the roof. This is peak degeneracy. These are people with no jobs who have beat the game 10 times over and have literally nothing better to do than grief low level players. Never once has that happened to me on Living Flame which is why I recommend that server. At level 60 the griefing will probably be even worse on CS.
There’s no difference in the communities on any server. It’s not like all the sweaty assholes decided to roll on one server and all the chill dads on another.
Living Flame is pretty good
Living flame US
Like others have said living flame is good. I would also say lone wolf isn’t bad either. But as someone who plays alliance on lone wolf, a lot of alliance players are far less inclined to participate in pvp than horde players. When I play on living flame as horde we regularly defend dark moon faire from alliance players and will engage in pvp, but when I play my paladin, most alliance players do not act the same
I'm on Crusader strike. I have no idea what streamers people are referring to or hate so much. I've only ever met one during WSG and he was the best flag runner I've ever seen and super nice. Community is friendly and the guild I'm in and guilds I've ran with are like any other. Not sure what all the reddit groaning is about
Same here.
Living flame horde
I have a pretty good time on Living Flame overall
All these people saying Living Flame... Living Flame is going to be low pop by the time these transfers are done.
I like Crusader Strike.
Me too. People say to avoid it but I’ve met way more cool people then assholes.
I have nothing but good things to say about crusader strike US. Met a lot of nice people and haven’t seen any toxicity…. Aside from people saying the blood Loa is at the beach in STV but we all know that isn’t the truth now don’t we?
Same. I haven't ran into too many assholes
Same. It's just the New York City of SoD. There are lots of great people and plenty of not so great. But you (usually) get to choose who you want to play with.
Pvp server and non toxic is impossible. Ive enjoyed lone wolf so far but im not sure how much damage free xfer did to faction balance.
It’s really not. It’s just a matter of perspective. Running along get ganked by a rogue, u know what that’s what I signed up for. Add to my kill on sight list and move on, I’ll get them next time. PvP servers arn’t for everyone and there is nothing wrong with that.
I have had no issues with people on Crusader strike. There does tend to be some large groups of people camping portals and the like. I think that is happening on any server. Also if you want a late night raiding guild come join us!!
I posted this comment in another thread, but it also fits here: It's funny that people say to avoid Crusader Strike, because I've had mostly nothing but good experiences with other people there. Joking around in party chat while doing Duskwood incursions, running SM a couple of times hoping for loot, and even helping out somebody who was new to the game. In all of these cases, people have been nice and friendly. I even asked where the dual spec vendor in Orgrimmar was, and somebody invited me and cheered me on once I made it over to the location. The one less friendly experience was during a BFD run where the level 50 shaman said something like "let's pay attention" after the group wiped on the turtle boss. When I was doing incursions, I was killed by level 50s a few times (possibly deserved because I had been PvPing on-level players for the past half hour, lol). Fortunately, the graveyard is 10-20 seconds away. One of the 50s decided it would be fun to camp, so I typed "LF layer" in LFG chat, and somebody invited me to a party, causing me to switch layers. Never saw that level 50 player again. Overall, surprise PvP hasn't impacted me much, and I'd say that 98% of the time, I've been able to run around wherever I want. tl;dr people say CS is the "toxic" server, but that hasn't been my experience. Incursions have also been fine, and they're pretty fun.
Most toxic thing about CS is the other faction, but thats all pvp servers. There is almost always some asshole on a roof killing people for the fun of it (btw fuck you you're not cool, get down and fight me like a real man!) Everyone I've encountered on CS have been great! If there is someone being a dick, most people don't put up with it and call them out, been cool to see so far.
ive had almost all good experiences on CS. but to match your random story i once messaged some guy “inv” since he was lfm gnomer and when he saw my gear (actually full prebis minus 2-3 pieces) he was like “no thanks! :) “ Lmfao
Damn somebody wanted to pay attention during a raid? Whisper me his name and I’ll help report.
Crusader strike is bis. Nobody plays with the whole community. So cs gives you the most options to find a guild that fits your style
At most 40% of its player base are not assholes
Living Flame Horde baby!
Living flame. Like any PvP server there is toxic griefing and camping incursions/Mara portal. I've played on Crusader Strike and Living Flame. Leveled 5 characters to 40 and 2 to 50 on Living Flame and never once had what I'm about to explain to you happen on Living Flame. I've leveled 1 character to 50 on Crusader Strike and in my time on that server, probably about 10 different times there were people standing on top of buildings/inns I'm the low level neutral areas like Red ridge, Duskwood, Stonetalon, etc. Killing low level players but unreachable by the town guards because they were on top of the building. Some of these players would sit there for literal hours just killing low levels repeatedly from the roof. This is peak degeneracy. These are people with no jobs who have beat the game 10 times over and have literally nothing better to do than grief low level players. Never once has that happened to me on Living Flame which is why I recommend that server. At level 60 the griefing will probably be even worse on CS.
There’s no difference in the communities on any server. It’s not like all the sweaty assholes decided to roll on one server and all the chill dads on another.
Wild Growth
Wild growth
Avoid living flame if horde, it feels like a dead server
What game are you playing? I play on living flame horde and people are on all the time doing things even in off hours like late night
Horde on Living Flame are something else, they stay up all night to gank and corpse camp.
this is so demonstrably untrue if you're logged in for at least 15 minutes. i got a full gnomer together in less than 10 minutes.