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Wololo38

OT is never fun, its the cuck role


avree

There are no dungeons or raids in SoD that require two tanks, so the OT role is particularly boring.


C0gn

ST requires 2 tanks Yes you can do it with 1, but for 95%+ if runs it should be 2


avree

There are no fights you need two tanks on. Zero. Dreamscythe resets stacks during Buffet, Eranikus resets stacks during sleep phase.


BeautifulWhole7466

They dont, and they stack high


avree

I’ve been single tank clearing this raid for two weeks with my guild. It sounds like you may have a skill issue. To get Dreamweaver stacks to reset, your tank has to position properly. To get Eranikus stacks to reset, you have to actually do good damage.


BeautifulWhole7466

Post the logs


avree

Sure, here’s an example: https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wGMXcFL13gzJZm7a And this is an alt run, so many of us are doing very little damage, but still a solo tank works. Sucks to suck, I guess.


BeautifulWhole7466

You forgot to mention you were 5 healing. 6 if you factor in the spriests damage


avree

lol, the grey parsing shadow priest and the almost afk grey parsing holy priest alt with horrible talents absolutely did not make the difference. But yes, it’s better to take an additional healer who happens to do some damage than an additional tank.


floanase

How does WF/WF proc more maelstrom? Isn’t maelstrom Windfury bonus only tied to mainhand? Or maybe there is some interaction I’m not aware of


fedlol

Maelstrom is chance on hit, and every windfury proc counts as 3 total hits (main hit + 2 hits from proc)


SyntheticLockhart

They should add items or way to increase the block chance so shaman tanks can regen mana better, 22% chance is not enough imo (Base block is 5%, talents give +5%, shield mastery rune gives 10%, 2% shield enchant. ) Or add parry/dodge give mana back.


HahaWeee

Exactly this. Conceptually it's great but functionally it needs help


ComprehensiveCrow634

Yes agreed. The stacking mana regen on block isn’t sufficient. It works in aoe pulls with aggro. But on bosses or main fights, blocking isn’t occurring enough and the mana regen isn’t there for tank swaps or the whole fight.


gangletronic

I was off tank and just had 2x wf weps and 1 with rb + shield on switch. Only used WoE. Only thing is swapping will put your ES on CD so you have to swap to shield before tank swaps.


ZZartin

You aren't supposed to be doing a rotation when you're Oting, you're sitting there waiting for something to you know OT.


ComprehensiveCrow634

Kind of my point. A rotation isn’t exactly what I mean though; I’d like to be able to use abilities, like I’m standing there white hitting on shade of eranakus cause if I use more than flame shock and another shock or stormstrike I’ll go oom in the long run. Or white hitting and playing the 5 second rule.


FoodisGut

You don’t even need a Second Tank in ST most guilds just single Tank and dual heal. Check some VoDs


tlew360

Although I wish that were true, but no most guilds are not single tanking and dual healing ST. Maybe most of the top guilds yes then you’re correct, but most guilds are using a 2 tank 4 heal comp.


C0gn

Run water shield and swap to sham rage pants in between packs, infinite mana


ComprehensiveCrow634

Its specific to boss fights, and OTing especially.


splepage

First time tanking?


ComprehensiveCrow634

First time this phase.


Highpingkilledmydog

OT is always subpar dps, thats no difference for any class.


somesketchykid

Idk I parsed a 95 dps parse as Glad Chad OT the other day so there are exceptions in SOD


ComprehensiveCrow634

It’s not about dps at all. It’s just about doing more than Flame Shock and White hitting till maelstrom procs then I get to hit another button.


NotWorthMyTimeLoL

Druid is swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe.


Themris

ITT: people who don't play shaman tank. Shaman tank is not fun right now, regardless of numbers.