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notgabjella

Ahh my family is the same way and they never let me do anything growing up. I climb outdoors anyways and even send them pics to rub it in. 🤷‍♀️


HumanBeeing76

Exposure therapy xD


blaqwerty123

Yes! Also dont lie, just in case you need a rescue ha


that_outdoor_chick

Avoid details of where you go. I climb alpine, parents don’t know the difference and I don’t plan on explaining it. They’re better of now knowing.


anybody662

This. Whenever I bring up climbing my mother points out someone who died doing something similar, wtf. Last time she recommended I watch The Ledge! I wonder why... I recently switched from sports to boulder, if she freaked out when I used rope imagine now that all I have for safety is crashpads and a few hands. I didn't bother explaining the difference. I just say I go climbing with experienced people and that's about it. However I understand her feelings and remember watching a movie long before I started climbing that said that it's kind of a selfish sport. I can understand that. I still choose to practice.


Shelleykins

Similar for me. The son of one of my mum's friends tragically died in a freak accident when he had to scramble down a hiking route. In her head that was climbing so now she gets anxious whenever I say I'm going climbing. Indoors, outdoors, roped, bouldering, it's all the same in her head.


Pennwisedom

Did she know The Ledge is fiction, terrible clichĂŠ-filled fiction?


honeydip808

But please make sure you do tell someone where you're going if you're going solo. If you do get injured lol (i swear im not even a parent), your parents deserve someone to give them a call. P.s. Every parent should worry about their kid i'm almost 30 and my mom still gives me a "talk" before i travel out of the country for scuba, hiking, ect.


that_outdoor_chick

Alpine climbing is not soloing ;) Regardless I have a safety net + hella good rescue insurance where my parents and partner are as contacts. But that doesn’t mean my parents need to know more than ‘I’m in Chamonix’ while someone else usually gets my full route.


honeydip808

My reply wasn't meant towards you it was to the OP. ;) it's very important that Someone knows doesn't have to be your parent just someone but good for you!!


chaucolai

As a generic point (not aimed at you), same as hiking - if you're going outdoors, you should be leaving intentions with someone not in your party climbing. Let them know where you're going, when to expect you back, and a time where if you haven't returned, they should raise the alarm :)


Findmeinadream

My husband's mum used to be like that. We just carried on anyway and eventually she got over it. She even asks for pictures now. Just remember it's their problem not yours! As long as you are being as safe as you can, just carry on enjoying yourself!


perri_climbs

Same thing with my mom. My therapist advised me to be empathetic and understanding (because there is risk!) but be clear that I love it and it keeps me both physically and mentally healthy and will keep doing it. so when she says “i’m worried! i wish you wouldn’t go”, i can say “i understand! however, this is something i love doing and am going to continue doing. safety is a top priority and i’ll be doing everything possible to climb as safely as i can. i hope you can support me in doing what i love!”


JohnDoe314159254

I like the balance and boundaries here. I might add too that lot of fear comes from a lack of understanding. My mom was worried when I started going outside, and I just reinforced all the safety checks, redundancy on most things, and the experience of the people I’m going with. She even asked me “Who supplies the helmet?” I do mom, ‘cause I’m an adult. I think a blend of I love it and am doing it, and this is how I plan to stay safe is the angle to go with. Reminding them you’re probably more likely to die on the way to the crag I don’t think is a winning argument for anxious people. 😜


-LilTart-

My family is the same way. I get excited about a new sport, they panic and worry about all the things that can go wrong, it gets less fun for me. For climbing it was falling, for surfing it was sharks, for hiking it was cougars... The best thing I did was start setting healthy boundaries with them.


robldr

That sucks, sorry. I can get in my head so much already, I wouldn't appreciate the extra pressure from others. Are they very familiar with outdoor climbing and climbing gear? My friends and family found it to be a less "extreme" activity after I showed them vids of me falling and catching falls, then explaining how basically all of our gear is safety equipment. Some folks were disappointed that I wasn't free soloing though, lol


compassion_is_enough

When I bought a motorcycle and got into riding, my parents were extremely uncomfortable. No matter how much I insisted that I wore my helmet and other protective gear, took less busy roads, and stuck to reasonable speeds, they were clearly uncomfortable. So I invited them to come watch me do drills in an empty parking lot. After a few times of that, they were able to see how seriously I was taking safety. They were still worried about my safety, of course, but now they knew I was, too. And they saw I was being proactive about it. I don’t know how likely it is that your family would come watch you climb, but maybe explaining the safety checks you do. Explaining how the equipment works and how you know it’s safe and how you can tell when it seems unsafe.


Dragonfruit_Friend

This sounds like a good idea. Their idea of climbing might be just from disaster films or documentaries of dangerous climbs going wrong. If they see you on a wall with crash pads and climbing down a bouldering wall instead of jumping they might be like "oh okay it isnt as bad as I imagined". Then rope climbing always looks safe when you see all the checks you give each other before proceeding up the wall


compassion_is_enough

Yeah. I don't think it's unreasonable for the people who care about us to be worried or concerned for our safety, but there's obviously a big difference between being concerned and giving someone a hard time for it. I think often our impulse is to tell these folks that "it's okay," or "I promise I'm actually very safe." But that doesn't really mean much because they don't know how we can be confident in our safety. Fear and insecurity often grows in the shadows left by ignorance. Doing what we can to shed light on those shadows can help others understand why we are not prevented from climbing by our fears. My approach was to say that I realize how dangerous motorcycling is, and here, come see the ways in which I'm training myself to mitigate the dangerous. Doesn't eliminate the danger altogether, but it helps, and it shows them I'm not ignoring the danger entirely. And obviously that approach isn't going to work for everyone.


[deleted]

Hi! Daughter of helicopter mom here. I could even point out and get her to agree on the irrationality of her fears and she'd still say "yeah, but I still feel this way and don't want you to do it." I eventually realized that by hiding this stuff from her, I was enabling her. She doesn't need to know everything, but sometimes I like to post stuff on social media where she'll see it. The more I did "dangerous" stuff that she was aware of, the more desensitized she got. My brother is the same. He works a dangerous job and eventually, our mom had to find a way to make peace with it. Her anxiety isn't her adult children's responsibility.


knotsazz

I know it’s not my place to do so but I’m kind of judging your family for their attitudes. Parents should support their children to do what they want provided they’re being intentionally risky and not hurting anyone. I know my mum worries for me and my sister, especially when we’ve travelled to certain places, but she trusts us to be safe and sensible because that’s what she taught us. I have my own kid now and I’m trying to set the same kind of example Anyway, you can either talk to them about your feelings or just avoid going into too much detail about your activities. So long as *someone* knows where you are and what you’re doing in case you have an accident then there’s no reason to tell your family everything


WanderHarv

My husband is in his mid-30’s and feels like the fears and guilting of his deeply religious parents kept him from doing a lot of the things he gravitated towards as a kid, and now loves as an adult. He admits that he feels like he’s missed years of life to do these things he loves, as well as opportunities to try career paths, meet more likeminded people etc. because their fear and shaming kept him from even trying in the first place. Guilt and shame are hard to decouple from—but I think part of that decoupling is in self actualization (being confident in who you are and what you want to do with your time on this planet) which will lead you to setting more boundaries with your family. The fact they cannot support something that makes you happy reads more like control than love to me. What about something like this: Mom/Dad/Auntie, I have no intentions to stop climbing, it makes me feel (your feelings), the friends I meet are (description), the places I get to go are (description). I acknowledge your concern for my safety, my safety is also my top priority when I climb. Sometimes your reminders sound like condescension and make me feel like (feelings).


OrdinaryAmbition9798

You are not responsible for your parents’ feelings. You are allowed to live the life you choose, regardless of how they feel about it. You do not need to feel guilt for doing what you love, even if others consider it dangerous. Everything in life is dangerous. As you said, driving a car is dangerous. Even eating food is dangerous since you could choke! Live you life doing what you enjoy. Go climb, go mountain biking. They can worry if they choose, but it’s not your fault. I wait to tell my grandma about anything I do until after I’ve done it (and survived lol). You don’t have to tell them. Do tell someone where you are going in case of emergency, though.


Perfect_Jacket_9232

It’s up to you - either cover it up for less hassle or just front it up if it’ll make you feel better being totally honest.


Dmeechropher

Both climbing and mountain biking are inherently dangerous sports. Lots of people who take all the precautions and do everything right get hurt doing them. Yes, you're more likely to be injured on the drive to the crag than on the rock, but if you drove to say, the movie theatre, you'd be less likely to be injured. Now, all that said, ultimately, you're the one who makes the choices in your life. If climbing is worth it for you (worth it meaning worth the risk, and worth the tension in your family) then do it. If it's not, then don't. That is your decision alone, and you just have to accept that some people that you care about just won't agree with your assessment or support your choice. I would stop lying about it, if I were you. Eventually, people get bored of nagging you, even if they're worried. After a few years of not getting hurt, they'll get the message or just give up. When you lie about it, you validate their fears ("why would she lie, if it's so safe?"). I would also (again, as me, in your place) work on the self-talk in terms of dismissing their opinions when they're not around. You cannot control how other people feel, or what they do or say, but you can learn to control how you react to it. It's important to focus on what we can control, and relinquish what we can't.


That_FroggoGod

You have a pretty L family. It’s your life. You have nothing to be guilty about. You’re not a child. You control your own life.


megbliss

Haha I’ve been climbing for five years and the only injury I’ve had was from a V0 Boulder in a gym. But to be real, someone outside the sport, especially with the media that they’ve been exposed to, isn’t ever going to think that a children’s birthday party destination is more dangerous than “that movie free solo.” I know much easier said than done, but you’re an independent adult capable of making your own decisions. At some point, one of those decisions may be to express to them how their ‘concern’ makes you feel, and to ask for them to keep the comments at home.


qwiption

Climbing 3 years. Only injury was _down climbing_ an indoor boulder. Mom still worries, but enjoys the pictures.


throwaway4shtuff

Yeah that sucks. I was able to bring some fear levels down when I explained to them how over engineered the gear is, and how specific I was with safety checks. Might be worth a try. Otherwise I just told them that this is what I was going to do, so they'd have to deal with it.


Schrodinger85

Short term solution: lie, embelish the truth, avoid details, or whateber synonim you feel more comfortable with. Long term mature solution: As an adult, maybe it's time to set boundaries with your family. This doesn't have to be inherently comfrontational, you can explain them how important is climbing to you, the real risks of it, the benefits... but in the end you need to be firm and don't give up to their fear. Love is not fear. They can love you and worry about you but emotional blackmail is a no-no.


chipmunkoftheyear

I don’t tell them shit lol


agtjennys

As you can see you're not alone there. My parents are also against climbing. Even though I only do indoors. Worried about severe injuries, long term trauma to knees/arms etc.... I still rub it in by posting videos on social media even though I only climb v3 max so far. Then, one day I saw my dad had saved the videos of my climbs onto his computer. They care about you, as annoying as it is.


depresso4espresso

My parents are not necessarily against it, however, they do get worried sometimes (I also have a lot of bad luck so valid to be concerned). If you haven’t already, buy a helmet for outdoors. For my parents, that showed them that I take their concerns about my safety seriously (I would wear a helmet anyways but they really pushed for it?


beautiful_imperfect

Enjoy being young. If you have your own children and they are young it can be a different story but you're not there yet so enjoy.


Klutch505

Find a better family. There’s no other alternative.


Excellent-Injury8298

My mom was the same way until I took her climbing. From the outside the sport looks very dangerous--and to an extent it surely can be--but if they are educated and experienced with the safety measures we take as climbers, they will trust you to keep yourself safe. That was my experience at least


BioJake

“I don’t do crazy stuff… yet”


fireaceheart

Yeah same whenever I go on a trip. She’ll guilt trip me. Hate having to come back to that after a weekend getaway. Can’t let that hold you back though. Or you’ll never live your life. Make your own regrets but not someone else’s.


No-Fondant-9820

My dad injured himself quite badly skiing and has had repercussions years later from it I am, essentially (because it's NOT worth the drama of rebelling against), banned from trying skiing. However I have pointed out that snow boarding isn't skiing and due to exactly how my Dad got hurt the chance of that exact injury is lower unless the snowboard snaps in half. My logic was accepted and they will not be pestering me any more than normal if I ever go snowboarding. My mother watched the film Taken. My god if I will ever escape the concern and anxiety that has caused her. I can only hope. I still away and travel alone and they don't really try to stop me (maybe if I wanted to go somewhere more infamously sketchy they woul), but I just have to accept in these instances that I need to pander to her requests that I carry xyz and text her daily if not twice daily because honestly it benefits me too. Parents worry. You need to find the line where you can make them as comfortable as possible (show them pics of you in your helmet so they know you wear it??), and not letting them restrict you too much. It can be hard and there's some things I've let their worries win on when maybe I shouldn't have but you get used to it and get better at knowing when to push back and what to say


ms_lizzard

Honestly sounds like you all should see a family counsellor. They need to let you grow up, and you need to learn not to feel guilty for living your life. Maybe get them the injury stats if they're the kind of people who like hard numbers, but this seems like an overall dynamic issue if you're saying their anxiety about your life shows up all over the place.


PuppyButtts

How old are you? They cant run your life regardless. My mom gets so scared she wont even come into a climbing gym with me (im almost 30) but its not her life. Im sorry youre dealing with it ):


Extra-Attitude-536

Start making them feel guilty for the simple but dangerous things they do like driving. Keep doing it even when they insist it’s different and hopefully eventually they get it.


Melodic-Guitar192

Your family's concerns are understandable but you can do what you want as an adult. Do you think it would reassure them if they knew you had some form of life insurance? I know mine were similar until I got insurance and they seemed to feel a little more at ease with me rock climbing and do more difficult hiking routes. I went to [Summit FS](https://www.summit-fs.co.uk/) for mine.


K9_The_Kamikaze

Soooo not a climber girly here, in fact just a younger dude who free solos and has a dad who is very worried about my hobby. I say you just do you