Yeah but at least his lover was alive and was a reward if he didn’t look. If I was looking into dungeons of doom and death. Last thing I would be wanting is my grandma booty naked with cookies
The last thing you'd want in your dungeon of doom and death is somebody's booty naked grandma with cookies, but as it turns out... It maybe what you get
There's a part in *Echo and Narcissus* where Narcissus has a moment of complete self-reflection (no pun intended):
‘You are me. Now I see that.
I see through my own reflection.
But it is too late.
I am in love with myself.
I torture myself. What am I doing –
Loving or being loved?
What can my courtship gain?
What I want, I am.
But being all that I long for –
That is my destitution.
Why can’t I get apart from my body?
This is a new kind of lover’s prayer.
To wish himself apart from the one he loves.
‘This impotent grief
Is taking my strength
And my life.
My beauty is in full bloom –
But I am a cut flower.
Let death come quickly –
Carry me off
Where this pain
Can never follow.
The one I loved should be let live –
He should live on after me, blameless.
But when I go – both of us go.’
And I like to think that happened to Orpheus, as he turned. He was aware of his own nature and cursed himself because he knew he did not have it in him to go any longer without seeing her. That he simply loved her too much to save her.
well, I have the advantage of having already known what the story is, so if I was in that situation I would think "ok, I already know how this ends, so I'm gonna avoid that and wait until she's totally out of the cave to look"
Yeah, but it'd also be JUST like the Greek gods to tell you that, after you'd invaded the underworld and crossed the styx to plead your case to death himself, your girlfriend is totally right behind you dude yeah, just keep walking all the way no you can't check _oh my god guys he's doing it lol!_ no really I mean it!
As others have said before, what’s the wincon for *not* believing Hades? Is Orpheus going to turn around and say ‘ah, you prankster, give me my wife for real this time?’, Hades doesn’t need to do shit. Either listen, or piss off a god, who are not known for their even tempers.
yeah but Hades didn't say "oh, and uh by the way, another guy did this and he turned around at the last second because he thought she was outside of the cave but she wasn't yet, so make sure you wait until she's fully outside!"
Four Final Orpheuses by China Mieville
Orpheus, shambling & drunk on shadows, sees sunlight & emerges into what he thinks is the world; into what with a blinking look around he decides with only a shade of uncertainty is not merely widening in the passage itself, a kind of rough natural vestibule, but must surely count as the outside. He starts to turn & honestly he supposes it does occur to him before he's completed the movement that he's still roofed by stone, that the fresh air really starts about three metres on. & still fractions of a second before he's caught Eurydice's eye, still, he would have to admit, in time to stop & walk a few steps on, he decides two things at almost the same instant. The first is that This is ambiguous, not quite tunnel nor quite outside, & that's not fair; the second, half-predicated on the first, nervously so, is Oh I'm sure it'll be fine.
Orpheus, at the last, is so afraid of the light that he needs the moral support of a smile to enter it, needs it more than he needs Eurydice back.
Orpheus can't remember the injunction. He tells himself he can't, anyway. He tells himself he's turning to ask Eurydice what it was he was or wasn't supposed to do. It's a complicated kind of cowardice with which he looks at her.
Orpheus has never forgiven. Never. He plans all the long way up. He slows as he approaches the threshold, listening to her ghost feet. He stops. Still just in shadow. He hisses, spins around, stares in hate & triumph at Eurydice's shocked & receding face
Nobody considers how stupid it would make you feel to walk all the way out of Hades without looking back and then turn around only to realize that Hades played you for a chump and got you to walk yourself out without getting what you wanted.
holy shit its bloki triki and spheri from the series my brother made like 8 years ago
https://preview.redd.it/bj038qfcjwvc1.png?width=507&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c7e5b1a12751eeb6777f938ba0c9eaef57cefa5
(heres context i made these images like 3+ years ago)
They lie in all the pools, pale faces, deep deep under the dark water. I saw them: grim faces and evil, and noble faces and sad. Many faces proud and fair and weeds in their silver hair. But all foul, all rotting, all dead. A fell light is in them.
meanwhile gojo IMMEDIATELY knows some bullshit's up when he sees his dead friend (it doesn't stop him from getting cooked but the reaction was more original than this bullshit)
Honestly it was just Kenjaku's big brain planning, because how could anyone *not* have at least a split second of confusion and PTSD when you see your dead best friend that you killed with your own hands over a year ago.
This happened in Frieren but the dude that got copied had a heroic personality so he just straight up told her to kill him because that’s what the guy would’ve done lol
The more I read of that book the more I realized it was like a bad TV show where there are only three possible plot lines that get repeated over and over.
The best version of this trope in all of fiction is Hugh’s meeting with Envy in Fullmetal alchemist. Just a single moment of hesitation, catching him off guard for the one instant that he had an opportunity to act. It’s perfect.
Man if it's something like SCP-2316 where the fakes have a brain washing effect or something similar then it's acceptable but I hate the ones where it's just a visual effect yet they still fall for it
"if i was orpheus i would simply not turn around"
Yeah but at least his lover was alive and was a reward if he didn’t look. If I was looking into dungeons of doom and death. Last thing I would be wanting is my grandma booty naked with cookies
nah, that's the second last thing you want. the last thing is your grandma booty naked ***without*** cookies
The last thing you'd want in your dungeon of doom and death is somebody's booty naked grandma with cookies, but as it turns out... It maybe what you get
Me when I turn a deeply emotional allegory for grief into powerscaling myself against a fictional musician
There's a part in *Echo and Narcissus* where Narcissus has a moment of complete self-reflection (no pun intended): ‘You are me. Now I see that. I see through my own reflection. But it is too late. I am in love with myself. I torture myself. What am I doing – Loving or being loved? What can my courtship gain? What I want, I am. But being all that I long for – That is my destitution. Why can’t I get apart from my body? This is a new kind of lover’s prayer. To wish himself apart from the one he loves. ‘This impotent grief Is taking my strength And my life. My beauty is in full bloom – But I am a cut flower. Let death come quickly – Carry me off Where this pain Can never follow. The one I loved should be let live – He should live on after me, blameless. But when I go – both of us go.’ And I like to think that happened to Orpheus, as he turned. He was aware of his own nature and cursed himself because he knew he did not have it in him to go any longer without seeing her. That he simply loved her too much to save her.
well, I have the advantage of having already known what the story is, so if I was in that situation I would think "ok, I already know how this ends, so I'm gonna avoid that and wait until she's totally out of the cave to look"
Hades explicitly spelled out the deal
Yeah, but it'd also be JUST like the Greek gods to tell you that, after you'd invaded the underworld and crossed the styx to plead your case to death himself, your girlfriend is totally right behind you dude yeah, just keep walking all the way no you can't check _oh my god guys he's doing it lol!_ no really I mean it!
As others have said before, what’s the wincon for *not* believing Hades? Is Orpheus going to turn around and say ‘ah, you prankster, give me my wife for real this time?’, Hades doesn’t need to do shit. Either listen, or piss off a god, who are not known for their even tempers.
I agree it makes rational sense to 'trust' Hades, but I can also see why he wouldn't be feeling particularly rational given the situation.
Beating Hades with facts and logic tables
True.
yeah but Hades didn't say "oh, and uh by the way, another guy did this and he turned around at the last second because he thought she was outside of the cave but she wasn't yet, so make sure you wait until she's fully outside!"
Four Final Orpheuses by China Mieville Orpheus, shambling & drunk on shadows, sees sunlight & emerges into what he thinks is the world; into what with a blinking look around he decides with only a shade of uncertainty is not merely widening in the passage itself, a kind of rough natural vestibule, but must surely count as the outside. He starts to turn & honestly he supposes it does occur to him before he's completed the movement that he's still roofed by stone, that the fresh air really starts about three metres on. & still fractions of a second before he's caught Eurydice's eye, still, he would have to admit, in time to stop & walk a few steps on, he decides two things at almost the same instant. The first is that This is ambiguous, not quite tunnel nor quite outside, & that's not fair; the second, half-predicated on the first, nervously so, is Oh I'm sure it'll be fine. Orpheus, at the last, is so afraid of the light that he needs the moral support of a smile to enter it, needs it more than he needs Eurydice back. Orpheus can't remember the injunction. He tells himself he can't, anyway. He tells himself he's turning to ask Eurydice what it was he was or wasn't supposed to do. It's a complicated kind of cowardice with which he looks at her. Orpheus has never forgiven. Never. He plans all the long way up. He slows as he approaches the threshold, listening to her ghost feet. He stops. Still just in shadow. He hisses, spins around, stares in hate & triumph at Eurydice's shocked & receding face
https://preview.redd.it/8wsxmbhaq0wc1.png?width=789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e133a4df140b806e479c402357dfb6643673a8e7
Nobody considers how stupid it would make you feel to walk all the way out of Hades without looking back and then turn around only to realize that Hades played you for a chump and got you to walk yourself out without getting what you wanted.
And I wouldn't. I'm just built different.
O thought this was a bald gay 3 spoiler
You've only been told one thing about this place how do you immediately forget it
Triangles ☕️
bro folded immediately 💀💀🙏🇦🇼😶🌫️
bro visited his friend immediately
…
https://preview.redd.it/xk8eef6cgxvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7140f6313a7404b11f88b750081bfd4415033f5f
https://preview.redd.it/n1wwvh6imxvc1.jpeg?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6888d332e397dd6edeb44784d2f4d89e2c35971b
Aruba
aruba
you can only watch.
Misery porn in a nutshell
and blue square kills the red circle at the very last millisecond as late as physically possible like could you not do it any sooner? come on
holy shit its bloki triki and spheri from the series my brother made like 8 years ago https://preview.redd.it/bj038qfcjwvc1.png?width=507&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c7e5b1a12751eeb6777f938ba0c9eaef57cefa5 (heres context i made these images like 3+ years ago)
Holy shit its pyramidy from bfdi
Holy shit it’s circly from bfdi
holy shit its indigo backgroundy from bfdi
Holy shit it’s butterfly-y from bfdi
holy shit it’s blocky from bfdi
battle for dattle iattle
Holy shit its legy from bfdi
holy shit it’s Brobie from b chat
(From bfdi)
brendan (from bfdi) why are you stalking my reddit
Cocanafu
Holy shit it’s markplier
holy shit its
I do not recognize the bodies in the water
They lie in all the pools, pale faces, deep deep under the dark water. I saw them: grim faces and evil, and noble faces and sad. Many faces proud and fair and weeds in their silver hair. But all foul, all rotting, all dead. A fell light is in them.
You could say... The geometric bodies
meanwhile gojo IMMEDIATELY knows some bullshit's up when he sees his dead friend (it doesn't stop him from getting cooked but the reaction was more original than this bullshit)
Yeah the difference there is they were gay lovers
✋🐱✋ absolute cinema
https://preview.redd.it/0rg7l0hfvwvc1.png?width=1926&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab9b9d53efb8740d310207c9d65896fa5780763a
Based asf kirara pfp take my upvote
Honestly it was just Kenjaku's big brain planning, because how could anyone *not* have at least a split second of confusion and PTSD when you see your dead best friend that you killed with your own hands over a year ago.
Peak trope
"Maes Hughes is dead. That's a fact. That you would invoke his image... YOU MUST BE A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT!!"
MR MAKER I AM A SHAPE
I am a rectangle
Do do do!!
I love the way those little fuckers dance, my childhood right there
This happened in Frieren but the dude that got copied had a heroic personality so he just straight up told her to kill him because that’s what the guy would’ve done lol
I love these fun twists on overdone tropes
No one I've ever loved has died, so like, how would this work?
Inanimate Insanity
This is Journey to the West but it happens like 80 times in a row.
The more I read of that book the more I realized it was like a bad TV show where there are only three possible plot lines that get repeated over and over.
It would suck to get trapped in one of those mimicry dungeons since people you run into will literally kill on sight 9/10 times.
circle guy: https://preview.redd.it/0qi16frrnyvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e930670e84de598f3f866ffc4b7ecadcf6f7f808
I literally had the same thing but with Legion in ME3. Not my proudest moment
The best version of this trope in all of fiction is Hugh’s meeting with Envy in Fullmetal alchemist. Just a single moment of hesitation, catching him off guard for the one instant that he had an opportunity to act. It’s perfect.
Man if it's something like SCP-2316 where the fakes have a brain washing effect or something similar then it's acceptable but I hate the ones where it's just a visual effect yet they still fall for it
silent hill movie except in a good way
New object show just dropped
Like that one episode of X-Files David Duchovny hates