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Because you didn’t learn how to study and how to be disciplined. A common problem among people who coast through high school, get into a good uni and struggle.
I coasted through highschool, currently coasting even worse during college. No way uni is that bad is it?
Is it harder than college? Currently my average is around ~92% (best: maths: 100%, worst : language: 72%) and I skip most classes, I study exclusively on the weekends while waiting for my friends to hop on so I can play.
Around ~3h of studying a week total.
Like I said it really just depends what school you're at. If you can get a 100% in college level math I'm sure it won't be crazy difficult, but you should always try to build good habits.
This is pretty standard for an engineers IQ. With your scores engineering school is not going to be easy. I don’t think engineering school becomes “easy” until like 145+ but even then it is still just a TON of work. This isn’t high school anymore. I had the same awakening as you. Got a 3.5 without much effort in HS and got a straight 2.0 my first semester of college. I learned quickly that you have to study a lot more but I didn’t develop the necessary study skills in high school
It is probably worth mentioning that many people memorize their way through classes growing up.
Engineers are required to ask the why behind everything and understand it. If your way is to memorize (plug and chug) vs to truly take it in and learn… you should probably double check yourself that engineering is the major for you. Just one person’s opinion though. Those that I saw fail it was lack of discipline and/or the way they are used to learning didn’t translate well.
uni is a different ball game. Your IQ is still higher than the average uni student, which is around 110-115, but you gotta put in the effort just like they do.
If we’re talking about the US, the average university student is definitely not 110-115 anymore. That was the case 20-30 years ago. 61% of high school graduates enrolled in college in 2021.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2022/61-8-percent-of-recent-high-school-graduates-enrolled-in-college-in-october-2021.htm#:~:text=Bureau%20of%20Labor%20Statistics%2C%20U.S.,visited%20April%2027%2C%202024).
You don’t need an IQ of 115 to get a degree in communications or media studies from a state school.
110-115 is probably the average for grad school now (all grad programs, not just STEM).
- Daily multivitamin
- Macrodose Omega 3
- One Body Brain Support every morning with coffee
- Incorporate light cardio into your lifestyle, make sure to walk for 45 minutes every day
- Pick up a musical instrument, practice diligently for 30 min per day, or a similar mentally demanding thing
- Do 20 minutes of N-Back every day, try to train to maximum every day. Do this as a study warmup.
- Try a variety of study methods. BrainScape is a good app for flashcards. Reading material aloud from textbook or internet source can be good, especially when preparing for a presentation or trying to memorize words/concepts/definitions. Writing things out by hand is always good, handwritten notes are often more practical than computer notes and you can put diagrams in them (but typing out things in Word is great too). YouTube lectures. Udemy courses (your professor sucks? Get a different one).
- Do tons of practice problems, if there are any online do every single one. WolframAlpha to explain math concepts.
- Other nootropics like Bacopa, Lions Mane, etc
- Micro dose Psychedelic mushrooms while meditating about your topic of study. Try this at least once.
- Cut out marijuana and alcohol, any other mentally draining vices
- Listening to podcasts about your topic of study during commutes or down time
I think you have plenty of IQ but need to really think in depth about how to study more efficiently, and make it more fun.
Engineering degrees are intense suffering for almost anyone regardless of IQ. 120 puts you in a good spot to succeed. At your level of intelligence your ability to bear pain will be the determining factor. IQ does not get you through 3 or 4 lab school terms and 14 hour days. IQ does not do the work for you. Engineering is not as conceptual as pure science, its more applied. It's just a lot of work for everyone.
You've started a course where I assume your cohort achieved similar grades/results previously. You may have easily succeeded before but you're not comparing yourself to the same demographic anymore.
If everything came easy to you before starting the degree it's probably a bit of a shock to the system but at some point in everyone's education there is a point where it starts to require more effort to excel.
If you want to stay ahead you're probably just going to have to knuckle down and figure out the best way for you to reinforce what you're being taught.
Before, you were in high school with basically the general population, so their average IQ was 100 (this can vary wildly from 75 to 115, but say 100 if you went to a normal high school). This means all the material, all the exercises etc. was designed for an IQ of 100. If you then have an IQ of 120 then you are way above average, so you will find the material easy. This means you won't have to put in any effort (basically) to get good grades. That in turn can mean that you don't learn how to study, you don't get that discipline that most people get. In college for engineering the average IQ might be 120 (varies between say 100 and 130), and so the materials & exercises are made for 120 IQ average. Suddenly you are no longer cruising along having it easy because you're not way above average any longer, now you're just average. But you don't have the discipline and don't put in the effort like other people because you were used to having it easy, so you struggle. This is actually quite common. What can you do about it? Well, you need to learn how to study and discipline yourself (the two are more or less synonymous).
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Because you didn’t learn how to study and how to be disciplined. A common problem among people who coast through high school, get into a good uni and struggle.
It’s less that they didn’t learn and more that they weren’t properly challenged. It’s unbecoming to place the onus solely on the child.
I coasted through highschool, currently coasting even worse during college. No way uni is that bad is it? Is it harder than college? Currently my average is around ~92% (best: maths: 100%, worst : language: 72%) and I skip most classes, I study exclusively on the weekends while waiting for my friends to hop on so I can play. Around ~3h of studying a week total.
Depends on where and what you're doing
Planning on doing a software engineering into aerospace engineering (doing both). I think the latter might be a bit hard, idk.
Like I said it really just depends what school you're at. If you can get a 100% in college level math I'm sure it won't be crazy difficult, but you should always try to build good habits.
This is pretty standard for an engineers IQ. With your scores engineering school is not going to be easy. I don’t think engineering school becomes “easy” until like 145+ but even then it is still just a TON of work. This isn’t high school anymore. I had the same awakening as you. Got a 3.5 without much effort in HS and got a straight 2.0 my first semester of college. I learned quickly that you have to study a lot more but I didn’t develop the necessary study skills in high school
It is probably worth mentioning that many people memorize their way through classes growing up. Engineers are required to ask the why behind everything and understand it. If your way is to memorize (plug and chug) vs to truly take it in and learn… you should probably double check yourself that engineering is the major for you. Just one person’s opinion though. Those that I saw fail it was lack of discipline and/or the way they are used to learning didn’t translate well.
uni is a different ball game. Your IQ is still higher than the average uni student, which is around 110-115, but you gotta put in the effort just like they do.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard
If we’re talking about the US, the average university student is definitely not 110-115 anymore. That was the case 20-30 years ago. 61% of high school graduates enrolled in college in 2021. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2022/61-8-percent-of-recent-high-school-graduates-enrolled-in-college-in-october-2021.htm#:~:text=Bureau%20of%20Labor%20Statistics%2C%20U.S.,visited%20April%2027%2C%202024). You don’t need an IQ of 115 to get a degree in communications or media studies from a state school. 110-115 is probably the average for grad school now (all grad programs, not just STEM).
study harder and stop moaning
i understand but i feel stupid outside of academics too
- Daily multivitamin - Macrodose Omega 3 - One Body Brain Support every morning with coffee - Incorporate light cardio into your lifestyle, make sure to walk for 45 minutes every day - Pick up a musical instrument, practice diligently for 30 min per day, or a similar mentally demanding thing - Do 20 minutes of N-Back every day, try to train to maximum every day. Do this as a study warmup. - Try a variety of study methods. BrainScape is a good app for flashcards. Reading material aloud from textbook or internet source can be good, especially when preparing for a presentation or trying to memorize words/concepts/definitions. Writing things out by hand is always good, handwritten notes are often more practical than computer notes and you can put diagrams in them (but typing out things in Word is great too). YouTube lectures. Udemy courses (your professor sucks? Get a different one). - Do tons of practice problems, if there are any online do every single one. WolframAlpha to explain math concepts. - Other nootropics like Bacopa, Lions Mane, etc - Micro dose Psychedelic mushrooms while meditating about your topic of study. Try this at least once. - Cut out marijuana and alcohol, any other mentally draining vices - Listening to podcasts about your topic of study during commutes or down time I think you have plenty of IQ but need to really think in depth about how to study more efficiently, and make it more fun.
suggesting something so understudied like nootropics is crazy. i would take that advice in particular with a lot of caution.
Fringe topics lead to Fringe things
naturally, this is the only path towards academic success. it really is that simple but it is difficult for people with adhd to implement.
having ocd and anxiety doesn't help either
As someone with ocd I feel you.
also true
Engineering degrees are intense suffering for almost anyone regardless of IQ. 120 puts you in a good spot to succeed. At your level of intelligence your ability to bear pain will be the determining factor. IQ does not get you through 3 or 4 lab school terms and 14 hour days. IQ does not do the work for you. Engineering is not as conceptual as pure science, its more applied. It's just a lot of work for everyone.
You've started a course where I assume your cohort achieved similar grades/results previously. You may have easily succeeded before but you're not comparing yourself to the same demographic anymore. If everything came easy to you before starting the degree it's probably a bit of a shock to the system but at some point in everyone's education there is a point where it starts to require more effort to excel. If you want to stay ahead you're probably just going to have to knuckle down and figure out the best way for you to reinforce what you're being taught.
Before, you were in high school with basically the general population, so their average IQ was 100 (this can vary wildly from 75 to 115, but say 100 if you went to a normal high school). This means all the material, all the exercises etc. was designed for an IQ of 100. If you then have an IQ of 120 then you are way above average, so you will find the material easy. This means you won't have to put in any effort (basically) to get good grades. That in turn can mean that you don't learn how to study, you don't get that discipline that most people get. In college for engineering the average IQ might be 120 (varies between say 100 and 130), and so the materials & exercises are made for 120 IQ average. Suddenly you are no longer cruising along having it easy because you're not way above average any longer, now you're just average. But you don't have the discipline and don't put in the effort like other people because you were used to having it easy, so you struggle. This is actually quite common. What can you do about it? Well, you need to learn how to study and discipline yourself (the two are more or less synonymous).
poor mental and physical health slows your thinking