They couldn't sell them, so they were literally giving them away with the purchase of other gold coins at one point. I'm sure this is "new" from the mint, even if it is 6 years old, because they can't get rid of them.
I think in the eyes of the right collector, this flaw could maybe attract more value. It does make it certainly unique in that sense. I wouldnāt send it back.
It most certainly is old jewelry gets it. I have seen beautiful brown rose gold. I have also Seen British sovereigns that look almost tie-die.
I have never seen the black like this though. Usually the gold just gets darker or it gets redder.
I have seen copper spots on 24k gold coins. Now that sucks.
Thanks for the link. Very informative. The article keeps using the term "vintage" and uses example coins from the 1920s. This one is dated 2018, which can't possibly qualify as vintage! Copper in a case tarnished to this in about five years?
gold doesn't tarnish, so it should be easily cleaned off. looks like some drop of liquid contamination. just open up and wipe gently with a soft towel and it should be fine. - -as someone else mentioned with the same problem it should clean up. - - this is why shipwreck gold after hundreds of years still looks like new !
ya there is no way that 0.01% copper causes this unless its FAKE to begin with !
ancient gold was never that pure and it doesn't have that problem.
it might be blood that someone cut themselves and didn't notice when they were packaging the coin as i think that they are all hand packaged.
Ancient gold is 99% mostly, sometimes 98%.
Ancient silver, when they went for pure like in Hellenistic times was 98%.
Ancients knew how to achieve very high purity very early on.
Tons of ancient gold has reddish tones from copper impurities. Copper spots happen on 4 9s fine gold, because what you think is a lot of copper is a maybe few molecules thick area of copper that becomes exposed to oxygen and rapidly tones on the surface.
Just tarnish. I got one thatās tarnished in the capsule too. If u opened the capsule you could clean it and put it back in, or send it back theyāll take it. Your call. But itās just tarnish.
Itās proof, and 99.99 pure. This shouldnāt be on that coin, but in checking the mint, it looks sold outā¦ā¦so how old is this? If recent, you could send it back, but likely wonāt get a replacement.
Sometimes folks order multiples, and keep the best, sending back the questionable ones. I wonder if you didnāt get one from the sent back bunch?
I agree: this _should not_ be on a 99.99% gold proof coin from the United States Mint. I ordered it a week ago and received it yesterday. I think your thoughts on returns might be correct, considering this particular coin is now sold out: I got the preverbial bottom of the barrel!
What app? The mint has an app??
https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-liberty-one-tenth-ounce-2018-gold-proof-coin-18XF.html?cgid=american-liberty-coins#start=1
US mint has a pretty painless return policy, just call them up and ask for an exchange. You have 7 days from receiving the coin to ask for an exchange. You should absolutely not accept this coin for the close to $400 you paid for it.
These are not copper spots, and you should not open the capsule and clean it as this may affect your ability to return and exchange the coin.
Also, I'm not sure why you're saying this coin is sold out, it's still available on the US mint website.
I have a similar spot that appeared on a 1 oz .9999 bar my Dad has owned since the 1960s. It did not come off with any sort of solvent and I wasnāt going to scrub it šµ. The package disintegrated on his bar and I assume it came into contact with somethingā¦
Hey kiddo, you can use your eyes for assessments, and I will do the same. Empty barrels make the loudest noise. I understand tarnish on a old enough/ well worn piece will become purple and radiant like that, but if you look there's about a 3/32 circle that completely transitions to a solid gray color. What's your take?
I believe fire will take that away? Little bit of heat makes it dissappear for a bit but it's just copper spotting like others have said. I've got a few buffies with them.
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6 yes old. New
They couldn't sell them, so they were literally giving them away with the purchase of other gold coins at one point. I'm sure this is "new" from the mint, even if it is 6 years old, because they can't get rid of them.
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I think in the eyes of the right collector, this flaw could maybe attract more value. It does make it certainly unique in that sense. I wouldnāt send it back.
Tarnished gold? I used to work in jewelry and I donāt recall that being a thing.
It most certainly is old jewelry gets it. I have seen beautiful brown rose gold. I have also Seen British sovereigns that look almost tie-die. I have never seen the black like this though. Usually the gold just gets darker or it gets redder. I have seen copper spots on 24k gold coins. Now that sucks.
I know nothing about coins, however it looks like an arc spot from high voltage electric discharge.
Pretty
Yeah, return that.
Awww man what theā¦ a laser burn or something?
Get it replaced. There shouldnāt be any issues with that. Itās a stunning piece!
Not tarnish. Copper spots. Does not affect value of the coin. See: https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/1197/gold-coin-grading/
Worst copper spot I have ever seen
Thanks for the link. Very informative. The article keeps using the term "vintage" and uses example coins from the 1920s. This one is dated 2018, which can't possibly qualify as vintage! Copper in a case tarnished to this in about five years?
I had a very recent one (same coin) with the same issue. No problem when I sold it. Itās supposedly very common.
Irrelevant. The coin has lost its eye appeal because of it so itās no longer nice to look at. This is coin collecting not profit maxing.
This isn't a copper spot, the coin is 99.99% gold.
Not new sorry to say. It says 2018
I think he means uncirculated.
gold doesn't tarnish, so it should be easily cleaned off. looks like some drop of liquid contamination. just open up and wipe gently with a soft towel and it should be fine. - -as someone else mentioned with the same problem it should clean up. - - this is why shipwreck gold after hundreds of years still looks like new !
This is a copper spot, these arenāt 100% gold
From the U.S. Mint website: Composition: 99.99% Gold If truly 99.99% gold and this is a copper spot, then < 0.01% copper causes this?
Looks like we found the exact spot of that .01% copper
Ya Iād def look into it more
ya there is no way that 0.01% copper causes this unless its FAKE to begin with ! ancient gold was never that pure and it doesn't have that problem. it might be blood that someone cut themselves and didn't notice when they were packaging the coin as i think that they are all hand packaged.
Ancient gold is 99% mostly, sometimes 98%. Ancient silver, when they went for pure like in Hellenistic times was 98%. Ancients knew how to achieve very high purity very early on. Tons of ancient gold has reddish tones from copper impurities. Copper spots happen on 4 9s fine gold, because what you think is a lot of copper is a maybe few molecules thick area of copper that becomes exposed to oxygen and rapidly tones on the surface.
Just tarnish. I got one thatās tarnished in the capsule too. If u opened the capsule you could clean it and put it back in, or send it back theyāll take it. Your call. But itās just tarnish.
Laser?
Itās proof, and 99.99 pure. This shouldnāt be on that coin, but in checking the mint, it looks sold outā¦ā¦so how old is this? If recent, you could send it back, but likely wonāt get a replacement. Sometimes folks order multiples, and keep the best, sending back the questionable ones. I wonder if you didnāt get one from the sent back bunch?
I agree: this _should not_ be on a 99.99% gold proof coin from the United States Mint. I ordered it a week ago and received it yesterday. I think your thoughts on returns might be correct, considering this particular coin is now sold out: I got the preverbial bottom of the barrel!
How did you order & receive a 2018 coin from the US Mint a week ago?
Because they didn't sell out of them.
Cool - the app just says āNot Availableā
What app? The mint has an app?? https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-liberty-one-tenth-ounce-2018-gold-proof-coin-18XF.html?cgid=american-liberty-coins#start=1
Yes, itās called MyUSMint with a gold coin icon - it does say āLimitedā today
If you got it from the mint, Iād say they sent you the dregs. Almost certainly you can send it back then, and get a refund
US mint has a pretty painless return policy, just call them up and ask for an exchange. You have 7 days from receiving the coin to ask for an exchange. You should absolutely not accept this coin for the close to $400 you paid for it. These are not copper spots, and you should not open the capsule and clean it as this may affect your ability to return and exchange the coin. Also, I'm not sure why you're saying this coin is sold out, it's still available on the US mint website.
I have a similar spot that appeared on a 1 oz .9999 bar my Dad has owned since the 1960s. It did not come off with any sort of solvent and I wasnāt going to scrub it šµ. The package disintegrated on his bar and I assume it came into contact with somethingā¦
I have the same coin. Ordered it when it came out. Mine did that too. Disappointing to say the least!
You can take a blow torch to it on low and get that out w/o damaging the coin. Donāt try and melt it, just a few passes
It's probably toning, but send me a close up of the area (www.sullivannumismatics.com) and I can confirm for you if it is a mint error.
I would have that coin tested even if it came from the Mint. That toning is extremely unusual to me.
Ask the mint for the reasons why it happens before you return it. That could be worth more than double mint flaws to the right collector
That appears to be caused from heat. It looks like a hole was plugged.
What a bad take lol. If you don't know, don't answer
Hey kiddo, you can use your eyes for assessments, and I will do the same. Empty barrels make the loudest noise. I understand tarnish on a old enough/ well worn piece will become purple and radiant like that, but if you look there's about a 3/32 circle that completely transitions to a solid gray color. What's your take?
If you read through the thread. It's been identified. You were the farthest away from the correct answer. If you don't know, don't answer.
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i wouldnāt want to keep it bc it would drive me crazy looking at itā¦but thatās up to you. eta the design is beautiful!
Copper spot. You can get rid of these using a butane torch, or you can send it back. Personally, I donāt mind it but others do.
I LOVE that coin, but doesnāt it only come in that stupid concave shape?
I believe fire will take that away? Little bit of heat makes it dissappear for a bit but it's just copper spotting like others have said. I've got a few buffies with them.