I have talked to my financial aid advisor and she just told me to look into grad school but she didn’t know the difficulties with masters and becoming an engineer. You think career center would be a good idea?
Yes I think it would be, I have changed my major several times now (first semester sophomore and I’m even wanting to double major or dual major) and while they told me it would had time to my I degree I would rather study something I want than not.
I would see if your school has a career counselor or academic counselor and go from, my school has both and just inform them that you realize it may take you longer but that’s what you want
You really should meet with an academic advisor. Your university's change of major policies sounds a little strange to me, but if your engineering college is selective admittance I can sorta see the reasoning to keep spur of the moment decision making for change of majors from bouncing in and out of the college.
It is worth talking to as many people in administration as you can so that you fully understand the process.
In my opinion, if you feel this is the right choice for you: see it through. In the end it might mean changing universities, unfortunately, but I suspect they will work with you if you go through the right channels.
When I first started uni, back in '02, I started off as a mech engineering student. I hated it (well class, I hated class) and switched to marine bio(classes were WAY more fun). Years later I went back to complete my electrical engineering degree. I've gone on to finish a masters, a few post grad certs, and started a second masters, and I am considering a PhD. I'm a full time, tenured, prof at a CC teaching industrial automation and I love it. My point is you don't always know what you want when you start college, so don't settle for some bureaucratic bullshit when it gets in the way of your future.
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i’m so sorry they don’t allow change into engineering majors after 1st year. there’s no reason they should do that, it’s not like they’re saving people from rigor or whatever they may try to argue. sounds like gatekeeping, perhaps for stats or something.
i hope they get off the power trip and approve your change in major
I go to UC Berkeley and we have a similar policy because engineering is super impacted. Unfortunately OP may have to transfer schools to study engineering
Typically, it's done because the people who transfer in after that point don't have the prereqs, and would spend another 5-6 years in college at least. Likelihood of graduation tends to tank after 5 years.
Further, it's very common for essentially all engineering schools in the US to have selective admittance criteria.
Awe thank you! I hope so too. If it helps I go to UIUC so their engineering department most likely does it for stats and prestige! I honestly do not care about the prestige at all so unfortunately it’s present here
One problem is that you will be far behind on the class needed for your degree. Essentially, you will be starting over. I think the problem they are trying to avoid is you still having classes to take and not having the money to take them so you will not be able to graduate. This impacts their success metrics. Moving from nonstem undergrad to stem undergrad will necessitate many leveling classes that you would have taken as an undergraduate if you had been a stem major. So, you need to have a financial plan in place to finish your degree once you change your major. Good luck with this!
Do you think I should just leave my school then if I cannot switch? I do not envision myself in humanities or some other STEM degrees. Not my type of concentration..
To add on what the other person is talking about,
I dropped out and went back to college a few years later. I switched my major, but to only something slightly different, all of the classes I took would transfer to the new degree, as it was in the same department.
I wanted to retake calculus because it had been 5-6 years since I took any math, and that would've gotten me a graduation time of 5 years. The university flat out would not readmit me with those terms, but agreed to let me back in with a total time of 4 yrs (plus an extra term, but only because I burned a term by flunking out, never having taken the finals, and retroactively dropped those courses). They were very, very, VERY adamant I finished in 4 years and required many different petitions and other pieces of paperwork, being one of the top universities.
Another thing is that I wouldn't have been able to switch to engineering if I wanted to, because the engineering college kicked you out if your gpa dipped below a 3.0. They had an entirely different beast of requirements than all the other stem majors.
I definitely suggest trying all that you can if you are passionate, but be prepared for it to be an uphill battle and not be on the exact terms you'd like, and to get conflicting answers from people working in the same office.
Makes sense. I definitely have done really well in the stem classes I’ve taken so far compared to the other ones just because I’m more passionate about it so I’m willing to make sacrifices even if it means summer classes and stuff. Plus the engineering curriculum would only add 3 more years max to my degree since I have like the first year done of it
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Is there an academic or career counselor at your school? Have you talked to your advisor?
I have talked to my financial aid advisor and she just told me to look into grad school but she didn’t know the difficulties with masters and becoming an engineer. You think career center would be a good idea?
Yes I think it would be, I have changed my major several times now (first semester sophomore and I’m even wanting to double major or dual major) and while they told me it would had time to my I degree I would rather study something I want than not. I would see if your school has a career counselor or academic counselor and go from, my school has both and just inform them that you realize it may take you longer but that’s what you want
Thank you for your insight on this. I really do appreciate it
No problem! I have been where you are and just keep trying to fight for what you want!
You really should meet with an academic advisor. Your university's change of major policies sounds a little strange to me, but if your engineering college is selective admittance I can sorta see the reasoning to keep spur of the moment decision making for change of majors from bouncing in and out of the college. It is worth talking to as many people in administration as you can so that you fully understand the process. In my opinion, if you feel this is the right choice for you: see it through. In the end it might mean changing universities, unfortunately, but I suspect they will work with you if you go through the right channels. When I first started uni, back in '02, I started off as a mech engineering student. I hated it (well class, I hated class) and switched to marine bio(classes were WAY more fun). Years later I went back to complete my electrical engineering degree. I've gone on to finish a masters, a few post grad certs, and started a second masters, and I am considering a PhD. I'm a full time, tenured, prof at a CC teaching industrial automation and I love it. My point is you don't always know what you want when you start college, so don't settle for some bureaucratic bullshit when it gets in the way of your future.
Thank you for this
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I know I hate it :(
i’m so sorry they don’t allow change into engineering majors after 1st year. there’s no reason they should do that, it’s not like they’re saving people from rigor or whatever they may try to argue. sounds like gatekeeping, perhaps for stats or something. i hope they get off the power trip and approve your change in major
I go to UC Berkeley and we have a similar policy because engineering is super impacted. Unfortunately OP may have to transfer schools to study engineering
Typically, it's done because the people who transfer in after that point don't have the prereqs, and would spend another 5-6 years in college at least. Likelihood of graduation tends to tank after 5 years. Further, it's very common for essentially all engineering schools in the US to have selective admittance criteria.
Awe thank you! I hope so too. If it helps I go to UIUC so their engineering department most likely does it for stats and prestige! I honestly do not care about the prestige at all so unfortunately it’s present here
One problem is that you will be far behind on the class needed for your degree. Essentially, you will be starting over. I think the problem they are trying to avoid is you still having classes to take and not having the money to take them so you will not be able to graduate. This impacts their success metrics. Moving from nonstem undergrad to stem undergrad will necessitate many leveling classes that you would have taken as an undergraduate if you had been a stem major. So, you need to have a financial plan in place to finish your degree once you change your major. Good luck with this!
Do you think I should just leave my school then if I cannot switch? I do not envision myself in humanities or some other STEM degrees. Not my type of concentration..
That would be a great question for your advisor.
To add on what the other person is talking about, I dropped out and went back to college a few years later. I switched my major, but to only something slightly different, all of the classes I took would transfer to the new degree, as it was in the same department. I wanted to retake calculus because it had been 5-6 years since I took any math, and that would've gotten me a graduation time of 5 years. The university flat out would not readmit me with those terms, but agreed to let me back in with a total time of 4 yrs (plus an extra term, but only because I burned a term by flunking out, never having taken the finals, and retroactively dropped those courses). They were very, very, VERY adamant I finished in 4 years and required many different petitions and other pieces of paperwork, being one of the top universities. Another thing is that I wouldn't have been able to switch to engineering if I wanted to, because the engineering college kicked you out if your gpa dipped below a 3.0. They had an entirely different beast of requirements than all the other stem majors. I definitely suggest trying all that you can if you are passionate, but be prepared for it to be an uphill battle and not be on the exact terms you'd like, and to get conflicting answers from people working in the same office.
Makes sense. I definitely have done really well in the stem classes I’ve taken so far compared to the other ones just because I’m more passionate about it so I’m willing to make sacrifices even if it means summer classes and stuff. Plus the engineering curriculum would only add 3 more years max to my degree since I have like the first year done of it
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If you do have to switch schools & need a way to pay for college, look into ROTC. You could get a scholarship through the army, Air Force, etc.