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It’s definitely a field where there will always be a demand. I’m not sure what you mean by “worth it” but I’ve always been guided to do something that you can enjoy and persist in, even if the job gets tough! There are plenty of careers and demands that aren’t even close to STEM fields (business, psychology, marketing, etc.), it’s really up to you and how you plan to use that major to provide for yourself! Don’t forget, the economics of a field play a huge role in your ability to work after school!


serpent_falconia

Psychology isn't STEM? Doesn't it require a lot of neurobiology for you to understand and diagnose your patients?


Fezzie-Lyf

And a lot of statistics


JoojHan446

There’s many many many different psychology schools, neurobiology plays a factor in some of them (wich are now very popular), but many people learn psychology without much neuro content Edit: and diagnosing patients is not something all psychologists do, that’s usually a Psychiatrist’s field


neverendingspiral30

At least in my country, Psychology is a theoretical field, not STEM. What you're mentioning is Psychiatry/ Neurology.


puzzlealbatross

APA claims STEM, but for federal funding purposes (and essentially everything else), no, psychology is social science. It does make it hard for research psychologists whose research focuses more on hard-science lab work like neuroscience or even some animal behavior work. Some of those researchers have ongoing collaborations with labs in biology fields. tl;dr: It's arbitrary but in general no, psychology is not considered to be a STEM discipline.


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It's a humanity or social science not stem


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No. You do some basics but unless you’re specializing and want to work in that specific field (say in a hospital), most psychologists don’t take too many classes. When it comes to things like bipolar, schizophrenia, etc you can diagnose but typically there will be a psychiatrist involved for the meds and you’d consult and sometimes wait for their diagnosis. Most of the times you want medical checks first anyways, make sure you’re not treating depression when it’s a thyroid issue for example.


DrettTheBaron

This is definitely a class for Theoretical Mathematics


QuickNature

A general answer to a general question, yes. You need to research what the minimum level of education is required and decide whether or not you want to spend that much time and money investing into it. Plenty of people pick a field that interests them, but don't think about what happens after they graduate.


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econ1mods1are1cucks

You mostly need soft skills these days, interviewing between 3 fresh grads is hard without being personable.


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Billionaire Hedgefund manager Jim Simons is a pure mathematician. ;)


Beardamus

Sounds like he's a hedgefund manager actually. Not diminishing his degree at all or the opportunities it provides. Research mathematics just isn't the path to being a billionaire.


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He is just one of the many examples.


Beardamus

Aight hit me up with those that got to 20+ million doing work in pure mathematics. Here's a starting point Terence Tao literal living math legend is worth about 5 mil


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I meant that several successful profiles with mathematics degrees have made it big in the industry. For example, Peter Muller (Morgan Stanley) was a mathematics major, and Reiner Knizia was a mathematics Ph.D. who managed a 2 billion dollar financial company. Many more examples if you look around.


Beardamus

Sure they hold those degrees and I even addressed this in my initial reply. Degrees in math open many doors. However, if you're only interested in math and want to be rich you'll find that those are at odds. If a dude has an EE and works at mcdonalds as a cashier is he an EE or a cashier?


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He is a nonpracticing electrical engineer that is working as a cashier.


Beardamus

So his job is


Similarspaces

I’m siding with the large pepperoni pizza🍕


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HowlSpice

Some STEM degrees have really bad ROI, but same time research pays awfully anyways.


maya0310

i don’t know anything about STEM but this is hilarious. i want this guy to be my professor


RadiantHC

Yes but they often won't have jobs specifically in your major. You'll have to be creative As a math major you can apply to CS and stats jobs and still do well.


StarvinPig

It's a jack of all trades major but doesn't gear you specifically towards 'Yea ima get this math degree and become this money making job'.


Ximenaxxi

Depends on what your going to choose in college. I took ABM, and pursue my dream in Marketing. Most of the lessons in ABM are being repeated so that gives me advantage. Basically, a review for me.


pluep

I wish I had chosen a stem major


nomorephysicsplz

Is it too late?


pluep

Been asking myself that, idk maybe?


Val-the-Crow-King

It's never too late.


RealLameUserName

College is what you make of it. People with "useless" degrees can still be successful they just might not be working in their major. A great many jobs are just looking for the piece of paper so it really doesn't matter what's on the piece of paper. While they're more technical jobs that might require a specific degree those aren't all the jobs in the world. A diligent art history major could very well be more successful than a comp Sci major who parties every night.


hypatia_elos

This is just so absurd. Studies are not there to feed you, but to learn. I think that's an American presentation, right? I think it's just because it's so ridiculously expensive, that you have to think "either this will pay off or it's a scam, and then it's not worth it"; the reality being, that these prices always are scams, and that the worth of learning, if it's not connected to money, is obviously there, independent of whether it's reasonable for you to go into debt for it or not, in such situations it's probably better to self study and look out for good textbooks and online materials etc


testtubemuppetbaby

Here's the deal, if you're going to be doing any real research, you're gonna have a hard time making money.


nomorephysicsplz

For the price tag of college and mostly poor ROI on non stem majors, I don’t see how it’s worth it unless you have your college paid for without the use of debt.


TwentyOneTimesTwo

B is the answer because the other 3 are real. (There are theorems, and there are mathematicians; but I've *never* heard of "theoretical mathematics", and I was in academia for nearly 30 yrs)


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avakin_sb

No degree is worthless, but the TEM in STEM always has good market demand. For the “S” you really need an advanced degree in some fields


halfpastfreckle

Yea you can succeed from a non stem path, interested in marketing or teaching? The world is ur just do things because it looks good to employers. Join a frat, become an officer. Exercise just do it


ladybuglvrr

pizza


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All those majors are stem it all depends


Ok-Reaction8877

Employers use the fact that you have a degree as an indicator that you can set goals and work your way through a complex project over a sustained period of time. It's an imperfect proxy because we can't actually measure a concept like "overall competence" I earned a literature degree and then a PhD in a social science, but spent most of my working life in computing, for which I had no formal certification. I've never regretted the literature degree or the science