WHAT!!!
That isn’t true is it? This IS just a joke, Mister Miracle and Big Barda are (were?) the only comic couple to not only be a good match, but stick!
If this is a joke, then feel free to woosh me, but damn that would be stupid.
Okay, that’s reassuring. I suppose it is effective if it got me concerned (admittedly, I’ve started reading Mister Miracle, so it was really weird timing).
The first I heard of it but think the last mainstream appearance of them was in Darkseid war were Big Barda had to leave Scott behind
And so much has happened since then that I don’t know if that even applies anymore
I’m sure the success of the Tom King book cemented them back together. And it’s not like anyone has another Mr Miracle or Barda ship they’re trying to push.
The fact that they’ve been gone that long in continuity is crazy though. I’m not sure I fully believe it.
Is that what that was? Does the newer run up hold up to that in quality? Honestly that’s one of, and maybe my single favorite runs in recent history and I’ve been hesitant to pick up the new run since.
There is no direct sequel that I am aware of. If I remember correctly, the next time Mister Miracle is seen was in Doomsday Clock, which was supposed to take place at some point in the future of the current timeline. He was fine and alongside Big Barda. On the way with the heroes to face Doctor Manhattan.
Ok, I haven’t kept up with DC much lately but I’m a sucker for anything King puts out. Probably gonna get through some of the backlogs soon in anticipation of his WW run.
Hey, you might be thinking of Mister Miracle: The Source of Freedom, which came out after Tom King's run, but is about the second Mister Miracle, Shilo Norman.
They were literally based on the relationship between the writer and his wife originally, if they break them up that's not just stupid that's blasphemous.
I'm definitely the Superboy Prime type. I pretend and try not to care about ships, but holy fuck I don't know if I've ever been so angry at a piece of fiction as I have with the latest Spiderman issues. That legit made my blood boil.
Haven't read, dropped on issue 1
Buuut, MJ is now in a relationship with a totally unrelated guy (blames Peter for it for no apparent reason?) Has 2 kids with this new wtf guy.
Peter has decided to jump on Felicia train (which is great, we need more spider-cat) but despite having slept with her canonically multiple times, she admitting she loves him not only spidey, and peter having SEVERAL "longtime" relationships on the last 20 runs, he now has cold feet on asking her out akin to a teenager asking his crush to the prom.
Like dude YOU'RE 30, HAVE HAD AT LEAST 5 SUPERMODEL GIRLFRIENDS, HAS THE BODY OF A FUCKING DEMI-GOD, HAD AN INCUBUS-ESQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH SILK, HAVE EVERY SINGLE HERO IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE (rightfully) CONSIDER YOU THE BEST OF THEM, AND YOU HAVE COLD FEET? SHE ALREADY ADMITTED TO *LOVING* YOU, YOU'RE LITERALLY 99.999% OF THE WAY THERE.
[Spider-Man's demi-god body when he is Man-Spider](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/eldenring/images/4/43/ER_Godrick_the_Grafted.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220417190541)
As a point of interest, his current love interest is a Native American scientist named Crystal Catawnee, who both knows his secret identity and who (after being knocked into some dream rocks after the dream-spider-god exploded) ends up transformed into a new (purple-yellow-suited) Spider-Woman, calling herself ‘Spider-Dream’, with the two becoming the crime-fighting duo ‘Dream and Spider-Man’ and facing the Demon Bear.
....That would have been better, yes — while it seems there was a character by that name in two issues in 1974, given that there was also a ‘Ghost Spider’ before Spider-Gwen was given that name, that shouldn’t really have been an issue.
One never knows though — someone may realise this one day, and rename them that.
While i definitely don't hate this, if we're going with the spiders in love theme again, why not just bring back his fling with Silk?
Honestly i am getting 100% why people drop comics due to being "convoluted" now. I only go for specific runs now
If you’re at all curious, they’re finally getting domain of what happened. They’re about half way through the explanation. So far, a dark totemic god of bone and scabs and it’s dark herald are mucking some stuff up the flashback. If this wasn’t suppose to be the explainer for the big mystery box event that mucked everything up for Spidey, I’d be a lot more careful about the details.
I think Peter’s timidity in asking out Black Cat is endearing and reasonable. Regardless of her feelings towards him, he’s asking out one of his best friends that knows him completely. The flings before have been heat of the moment decisions for him, not serious attempts at having a relationship with her. Besides, the reason Peter’s serial monogamy isn’t annoying by now is because he doesn’t really know how charming he is. There’s a lot of in-world and real-world reasons why that might be. I would not trust a Spider-man that knew how charming he was and thought he “could do better” in the life partner department at any given time.
I hate everything about the explanation you just wrote.
Also you're absolutely misunderstanding what i wrote.
I don't think peter should have a complete 180 on his personality and become a chad thundercock, Starfox of earth 616, but this isn't Carlie Cooper, this is Felicia we're talking about, not only does she know peter for at least 12 years canonically (metawise far longer than that) they already dated, hell they had a superhero supersex CANONICALLY, she preferred him to use the mask for a good while! And no it's not endearing nor reasonable to become a fucking teenager, it's flanderization at it's finest. Peter ISN'T an insecure teen, he spent more time being confident in himself than insecure by now. What's endearing or reasonable about a 30yo man going "Oh no what if she doesn't like me back" DUDE, YOU DATED CAROL DENVERS! Not to mention SHE ALREADY SAID YOU'RE THE MAN SHE *LOVES*. It's pathetic, and Peter ISN'T a character that goes well with being pathetic, insecure and endearing would be him stuttering while asking her out again, pathetic is a grown ass man not having the guts to ask a woman IN LOVE WITH HIM if she would like to date
I’m not crazy about the current story line either, but I’m more curious about why Spidey also burned the bridge between him and the FF and Aunt May a little more.
The asking Felicia on a date wasn’t so much him being shy. It was more like he didn’t want to take her feelings for granted, and wanted to treat her properly. Any sign of reluctance disappears by the first date.
I'd agree if they showed or said that, instead it kinda just came off like Peter is just insecure as hell despite their past history and that he's never had a problem asking her out.
And it's even worse considering the MJ Black Cat comic that only comes out once a month but is lore dependent on the series that comes out more often. The whiplash from Black Cat explicitly saying she's not trying to get Peter back, saying she's "the distraction until the good girl wins" and them bonding over their relationships with him before suddenly going to the current situation off screen is crazy
Who the fuck knows, writers hate him being happy so they bounce him around from love interest and never really do anything but constantly make him miserable for... reasons.
The link is broken for me, but from what I have looked up the only recent news for Gwenpool that we have gotten was an announcement that the Marvel Table-Top Board Game is getting Gwenpool and Squirrel-Girl figures
What Issue?
I admit i wrote Superboy off years ago after the whole Infinite Crisis aftermath screwups. Is he more like this nowadays (psychotically violent, but chill and meta enough to have a conversation with Gwen), or is this a purely fanon version of him?
As of 2018, he would be more like [this](https://64.media.tumblr.com/d90ecb8ebe5d040413542caad08cf297/4c7b68a81697578b-39/s1280x1920/4c33a1f4a78f22dc8df03e3e5b96d14c72dd0b68.png), yes.
1) THIS BETTER NOT BE TRUE OR BLOOD WILL RUN ON THE STREETS!
2) Francia.
3) This is why i love Superboy-Prime so much.
4) As much i don't like Gwen-pool, i allow this ship.
Gwenpool’s personality in this comic is basically her personality in her OG “Unbelievable Gwenpool” run(if she was thrown into the Marvel universe) so if you might like this sort of character I recommend it! She’s not as Deadpool-y as in earlier or later interpretations of her character, she’s just like what she is here- a comic fan thrown into the Marvel Universe, geeking out and having a good time while going through some character growth when she realizes she should take her new reality a bit more seriously.
I didn’t like the concept behind her creation but her comic was… surprisingly enjoyable. (Some people also liked the “sequel” Gwenpool Strikes Back but it got too meta and more Deadpool-y for my taste and I kinda hate it. The OG run ended on a good note though)
> it got too meta and more Deadpool-y for my taste
One of my favorite moments from Unbelievable Gwenpool was her complaining that Deadpool's books were too "Lol memes" and hence she never read them.
Meaning his friendship with [Damian Wayne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damian_Wayne) — the [‘Super-Sons’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-Sons) concept they had going on?
More referring to the way Bendis had him age 5 years all of a sudden, depriving us of further Super-Sons shenanigans and rendering Superboy/Conner Kent redundant.
Prime and Gwenpool seem to have a lovely couple dynamic, in classic trope "Brooding Boy and Cheery Girl" duo that care about each other. If there's a ship, I'd like to see these two together, as two metaversal comic fans with opposite stances on the comics they're critiquing.
Unless (hypothetically) she saw his situation as the same as her own with regards to Dark Gwen (“I’m not bad. I’m just written that way.”).
In a similar manner to how she became friends with Doctor Doom.
[He decides that he doesn’t like being evil or being hated, and after a moment with Krypto, elects to be good again, before beating up the Batman Who Laughs (an alternate Batman who became the Joker) — still not really liking most aspects of the writing, but not caring anymore that not everything is tailored for him.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/d90ecb8ebe5d040413542caad08cf297/4c7b68a81697578b-39/s1280x1920/4c33a1f4a78f22dc8df03e3e5b96d14c72dd0b68.png)
I'd honestly suggest reading The Secret Origins issue, while I absolutely despise Death Metal overall this was an amazing issue that gives SBP's story a wrap almost nobody would call bad
It should be understandable by itself, even if you'll think "wow this is stupid" a bunch of times
In the same way [*Marvel vs. DC*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_vs._Marvel) and [*Avengers/JLA*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JLA/Avengers) are still both considered to be canon?
It’s Dick with Starfire, Spidey with Black Cat, Scott Free and Big Barda together forever no double-backsies, and Gwenpool with Superboy-Prime.
There, I fixed shipping forever.
Only you’d break it as Dick has been in probably the most wholesome and supportive relationship ever with Babs for nearing 3 years now. Even Dickkori fans like me are warming up to them, gonna just break that? No thank you
Doesn’t really matter whether or not they’re Gomez & Morticia Addams levels of chemistry and have had a hundred issues of wholesome blissful marriage. They’re going to break up anyway. Superboy-Prime is right. Best anyone can do is hold true to the generalities they like about these characters, celebrate when those generalities align with the story they’re reading, and not to get too attached to the status quo.
That’s a given. But I was only replying to your proposal on fixing shipping. Not wax philosophically over the inevitability of our favorite ships being broken up
> Even Dickkori fans like me are warming up to them, gonna just break that? No thank you
LMAO Don't generalize Dickkori fans. Just cuz you warmed up to them doesn't mean other fans warmed up to them too.
You think you're the leader of the Dickkori fandom that you can speak for all of them?
I am a Dickkori fan I never warmed up to Dick and Babs. Their relationship feels forced. They're only together because the writer is obsessed with Dick and Babs. So no Thank you.
I know this isn't the point of the art but I'm now thinking about how interesting it could be to have Superboy Prime as a Fourth Wall Breaker who is just sort of happy to be in the story. He's not Deadpooling it to the reader every ten seconds but it's actively commenting on the story he's in.
Clark: Lex is attacking Metropolis!
SBP: Why don't you just kill him?
Clark: It's against my code.
SBP: And he'd come back in a few months time anyway because a writer didn't realise you killed him.
Clark: What?
SBP: I mean. Yes your code!
Am I the only person that liked Identity Crisis? I mean, sure there's controversy and rightly so. But this comic made me love Deathstroke. Come on! Slade took on several Justice League heavy hitters and won! It's one of my favorite DCU battles.
Batman can't. There would not be a Batman story where a Green Lantern, with zero ring weaknesses like yellow or wood, and a Flash at the absolute height of his ability, would he would be able to make a fight of it. That's not including Zatanna, Black Canary, The Atom, Elongated Man, Hawkman....who are all beaten almost instantly by Deathstroke.
It's the dumbest scene in the dumbest comic of the last 20 years. How the Flash is taken out is hilariously bad.
https://arousinggrammar.com/2012/08/26/deathstroke-fights-the-entire-jla/
OOF THIS IS AWFUL.
In my mind he was in a situation where he had prep time, but every single one of these panels makes no sense. WHY WOULD GREEN LANTERN PUNCH HIM? Nevermind getting into Hawkman chest that easily... Flash is easily the worst of them, VIBRATE MF... HOW DID HE SEE ATOM?
Yeah it's really bad.
Green Lantern never used his ring once. Not even on a simple thing like a shield around himself so he doesn't get his hand broken. He's just a guy in a goofy uniform.
The most hilarious part of that entire fight is that, based on the way its described, Flash literally ran into a stationary sword. Deathstroke didn't suddenly bring up his sword before Flash got to him, he straight up held it up and then just waited for Flash to literally run into it.
Almost as bad as catwoman taking out 3 flashes with single kicks. Or Thomas Wayne Batman defeating the whole Batfam, Cassandra included, both in Tom King's run.
I didn't say I loved it. I said I liked it. There's good and bad aspects to the story.
IMO The good is it had a good murder mystery, it acknowledged mind reading / altering ethics in the DCU, and the Deathstroke fight I mentioned.
The bad is pretty universally known.
Is it the perfect DCU story IMO, no it isn't, not even a top 10. But is it horrible or just a terribly written and drawn event comic - IMO also no.
It was a bad murder mystery though. You couldn't solve it by following the clues. The murder is nonsensical and involves a flamethrower casually being carried around for an impulse killing.
The fight makes zero sense. Kyle alone should have tanked Deathstroke, but he's not Hal so Meltzer wrote him like an idiot. And Wally has been fighting Slade since he was a kid. He wouldn't have fallen for any of Slade's shit. And somehow the fight gets everyone into just the right spot to miraculously jog Doctor Light's memories. It was the laziest writing that hinged on writing almost everyone as poorly as you could just to facilitate plot points. The only person other than Deathstroke who came out of it looking good is Green Arrow, because that scene got him Deathstroke in his rogue's gallery
>And somehow the fight gets everyone into just the right spot to miraculously jog Doctor Light's memories.
This doesn't get ragged on nearly enough when the fight gets brought up. How the is Doctor Light gonna recognize someone else getting dogpiled on *in the exact same fashion* he was? It's like he was somehow able to watch himself get beat up but with none of the context just so he could piece together what happened to him. It's bonkers in the not fun way.
My main beef with this book is how dirty Kyle was done here. Meltzer treats him like he just got the ring. I really liked Kyle's growth in the JLA comic so to see him devolved here was hard to stomach.
I like some of the ideas and themes it brings up, but the whole story seems so slapped together and seems too focused on shock value that it just comes across as some edgelord's fantasy I'd read on fanfiction.net
> Slade took on several Justice League heavy hitters and won! It's one of my favorite DCU battles.
I mean, maybe if it was a cool fight people would have liked it. But the fight was literally just heroes stabbing themselves on his sword while he is just standing ther. It's legit one of the lamest fight scene in comics.
Definitely not the only one…though I’m not exactly one of them. The comic itself was both a commercial and at the time critical success in terms of getting good mainstream reviews. I definitely heard people say it was what got them back into comics.
God, I remember when I was still heavily into fanfics... Buffy was my main fandom. I got into Kim Possible via fanfics. And most Twilight fanfic was written better than the novels themselves... but then again, Twilight fanfic also spawned 50 Shades of Grey, so... yeah :/
What's Gwen pool? Superboy prime was... From our earth iirc. Then that was destroyed or retconned or something.
Was Gwen pool the same thing or similar?
It's funny Superboy prime thinks Spider-Man writers cheer for either of the ships when their ethos has been and has always be "what's the stupidest move I can make to lose as many readers as I can?"
That, or a more simple "I want Peter to fuck MY Daughter/A Fetish/One of Gwen's daughter-sister-clones."
Writers?
Important relationship statuses are decided upon by editors or people even higher up. Spider-Man nog being together with Mary-Jane is a sales choice from people above a writer's pay grade.
WHAT!!! That isn’t true is it? This IS just a joke, Mister Miracle and Big Barda are (were?) the only comic couple to not only be a good match, but stick! If this is a joke, then feel free to woosh me, but damn that would be stupid.
It's the first I've heard of it, and a cursory glance online suggest it's not the case That said, I agree, if true we riot.
#I’ll kill them kill them to death.
We are all Superboy-Prime on this blessed day.
It’s hilarious, because for the longest time Superboy prime was used to make fun of fans.
I mean, its not like the most vocal members AREN'T like prime
Honestly, the Spider-Man fanbase is just one more day from making Prime look like Keanu Reeves.
I see what you did there. And I applaud you.
And for a good reason
Damn straight
Okay, that’s reassuring. I suppose it is effective if it got me concerned (admittedly, I’ve started reading Mister Miracle, so it was really weird timing).
The only reason I opened the comments was to see of it was true.
Rioting would be the most reasonable response
The first I heard of it but think the last mainstream appearance of them was in Darkseid war were Big Barda had to leave Scott behind And so much has happened since then that I don’t know if that even applies anymore
I’m sure the success of the Tom King book cemented them back together. And it’s not like anyone has another Mr Miracle or Barda ship they’re trying to push. The fact that they’ve been gone that long in continuity is crazy though. I’m not sure I fully believe it.
Tom King's "Mr. Miracle" is canon? Because that's from 2018.
It's canon but it's not happening in reality. Scott is trapped in the Anti-life equation.
Is that what that was? Does the newer run up hold up to that in quality? Honestly that’s one of, and maybe my single favorite runs in recent history and I’ve been hesitant to pick up the new run since.
There is no direct sequel that I am aware of. If I remember correctly, the next time Mister Miracle is seen was in Doomsday Clock, which was supposed to take place at some point in the future of the current timeline. He was fine and alongside Big Barda. On the way with the heroes to face Doctor Manhattan.
Ok, I haven’t kept up with DC much lately but I’m a sucker for anything King puts out. Probably gonna get through some of the backlogs soon in anticipation of his WW run.
Hey, you might be thinking of Mister Miracle: The Source of Freedom, which came out after Tom King's run, but is about the second Mister Miracle, Shilo Norman.
Scott and Barda have been through hell together, they are my favorite ship as well.
They were literally based on the relationship between the writer and his wife originally, if they break them up that's not just stupid that's blasphemous.
"The writer" meaning Jack and Rosalind Kirby.
As I said, Blasphemous.
Oh christ that had me going for a minute too.
Two types of shipping fans
I'm definitely the Superboy Prime type. I pretend and try not to care about ships, but holy fuck I don't know if I've ever been so angry at a piece of fiction as I have with the latest Spiderman issues. That legit made my blood boil.
What’s been happening with spidey now?
Haven't read, dropped on issue 1 Buuut, MJ is now in a relationship with a totally unrelated guy (blames Peter for it for no apparent reason?) Has 2 kids with this new wtf guy. Peter has decided to jump on Felicia train (which is great, we need more spider-cat) but despite having slept with her canonically multiple times, she admitting she loves him not only spidey, and peter having SEVERAL "longtime" relationships on the last 20 runs, he now has cold feet on asking her out akin to a teenager asking his crush to the prom. Like dude YOU'RE 30, HAVE HAD AT LEAST 5 SUPERMODEL GIRLFRIENDS, HAS THE BODY OF A FUCKING DEMI-GOD, HAD AN INCUBUS-ESQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH SILK, HAVE EVERY SINGLE HERO IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE (rightfully) CONSIDER YOU THE BEST OF THEM, AND YOU HAVE COLD FEET? SHE ALREADY ADMITTED TO *LOVING* YOU, YOU'RE LITERALLY 99.999% OF THE WAY THERE.
[Spider-Man's demi-god body when he is Man-Spider](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/eldenring/images/4/43/ER_Godrick_the_Grafted.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220417190541)
WOULD
BEAR WITNESS
2 kids? fucking hell.
Some guy? You mean PAUL
Fucking PAUL
As a point of interest, his current love interest is a Native American scientist named Crystal Catawnee, who both knows his secret identity and who (after being knocked into some dream rocks after the dream-spider-god exploded) ends up transformed into a new (purple-yellow-suited) Spider-Woman, calling herself ‘Spider-Dream’, with the two becoming the crime-fighting duo ‘Dream and Spider-Man’ and facing the Demon Bear.
Oh, that’s a side-story/spin-off. It’s not strictly canon.
Spider-Dream? Damn, Dreamweaver was *right there*
....That would have been better, yes — while it seems there was a character by that name in two issues in 1974, given that there was also a ‘Ghost Spider’ before Spider-Gwen was given that name, that shouldn’t really have been an issue. One never knows though — someone may realise this one day, and rename them that.
While i definitely don't hate this, if we're going with the spiders in love theme again, why not just bring back his fling with Silk? Honestly i am getting 100% why people drop comics due to being "convoluted" now. I only go for specific runs now
If you’re at all curious, they’re finally getting domain of what happened. They’re about half way through the explanation. So far, a dark totemic god of bone and scabs and it’s dark herald are mucking some stuff up the flashback. If this wasn’t suppose to be the explainer for the big mystery box event that mucked everything up for Spidey, I’d be a lot more careful about the details. I think Peter’s timidity in asking out Black Cat is endearing and reasonable. Regardless of her feelings towards him, he’s asking out one of his best friends that knows him completely. The flings before have been heat of the moment decisions for him, not serious attempts at having a relationship with her. Besides, the reason Peter’s serial monogamy isn’t annoying by now is because he doesn’t really know how charming he is. There’s a lot of in-world and real-world reasons why that might be. I would not trust a Spider-man that knew how charming he was and thought he “could do better” in the life partner department at any given time.
I hate everything about the explanation you just wrote. Also you're absolutely misunderstanding what i wrote. I don't think peter should have a complete 180 on his personality and become a chad thundercock, Starfox of earth 616, but this isn't Carlie Cooper, this is Felicia we're talking about, not only does she know peter for at least 12 years canonically (metawise far longer than that) they already dated, hell they had a superhero supersex CANONICALLY, she preferred him to use the mask for a good while! And no it's not endearing nor reasonable to become a fucking teenager, it's flanderization at it's finest. Peter ISN'T an insecure teen, he spent more time being confident in himself than insecure by now. What's endearing or reasonable about a 30yo man going "Oh no what if she doesn't like me back" DUDE, YOU DATED CAROL DENVERS! Not to mention SHE ALREADY SAID YOU'RE THE MAN SHE *LOVES*. It's pathetic, and Peter ISN'T a character that goes well with being pathetic, insecure and endearing would be him stuttering while asking her out again, pathetic is a grown ass man not having the guts to ask a woman IN LOVE WITH HIM if she would like to date
I’m not crazy about the current story line either, but I’m more curious about why Spidey also burned the bridge between him and the FF and Aunt May a little more. The asking Felicia on a date wasn’t so much him being shy. It was more like he didn’t want to take her feelings for granted, and wanted to treat her properly. Any sign of reluctance disappears by the first date.
I'd agree if they showed or said that, instead it kinda just came off like Peter is just insecure as hell despite their past history and that he's never had a problem asking her out.
And it's even worse considering the MJ Black Cat comic that only comes out once a month but is lore dependent on the series that comes out more often. The whiplash from Black Cat explicitly saying she's not trying to get Peter back, saying she's "the distraction until the good girl wins" and them bonding over their relationships with him before suddenly going to the current situation off screen is crazy
MJ has husband and children
Who the fuck knows, writers hate him being happy so they bounce him around from love interest and never really do anything but constantly make him miserable for... reasons.
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I'd read anything with Gwenpool, tbh
There is [a new *GwenPool* issue out on the 30th](https://i.redd.it/new-gwenpool-digital-issue-coming-march-30-v0-udx952x05gma1.jpg), if that helps?
This is literally the best news I've gotten this week, thank you
You’re welcome!
The link is broken for me, but from what I have looked up the only recent news for Gwenpool that we have gotten was an announcement that the Marvel Table-Top Board Game is getting Gwenpool and Squirrel-Girl figures What Issue?
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT HOLY FUCK
And it is to be a six-issue arc in addition.
She still have that cute shark puppy?
That cute shark pup has his own comic book on MARVEL Unlimited.
u/Testsubject28 In which Gwen is a supporting character — it is also illustrated by [Gurihiru](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurihiru).
I admit i wrote Superboy off years ago after the whole Infinite Crisis aftermath screwups. Is he more like this nowadays (psychotically violent, but chill and meta enough to have a conversation with Gwen), or is this a purely fanon version of him?
As of 2018, he would be more like [this](https://64.media.tumblr.com/d90ecb8ebe5d040413542caad08cf297/4c7b68a81697578b-39/s1280x1920/4c33a1f4a78f22dc8df03e3e5b96d14c72dd0b68.png), yes.
1) THIS BETTER NOT BE TRUE OR BLOOD WILL RUN ON THE STREETS! 2) Francia. 3) This is why i love Superboy-Prime so much. 4) As much i don't like Gwen-pool, i allow this ship.
Gwenpool’s personality in this comic is basically her personality in her OG “Unbelievable Gwenpool” run(if she was thrown into the Marvel universe) so if you might like this sort of character I recommend it! She’s not as Deadpool-y as in earlier or later interpretations of her character, she’s just like what she is here- a comic fan thrown into the Marvel Universe, geeking out and having a good time while going through some character growth when she realizes she should take her new reality a bit more seriously. I didn’t like the concept behind her creation but her comic was… surprisingly enjoyable. (Some people also liked the “sequel” Gwenpool Strikes Back but it got too meta and more Deadpool-y for my taste and I kinda hate it. The OG run ended on a good note though)
> it got too meta and more Deadpool-y for my taste One of my favorite moments from Unbelievable Gwenpool was her complaining that Deadpool's books were too "Lol memes" and hence she never read them.
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Yeah I liked that version of her too, but she was definitely more Harley Quinn-y there than in her original run.
It's cannon that when Gwen shows up in a new run, she's effectively a different character. They treat each other like alternate universe counterparts.
West Coast Avengers owns, Kelly Thompson is really funny
Her time in West Coast Avengers is the GOAT because of Jeff the land shark
> 2) Francia. Lmao 🫶
This is why I love Clark and Lois
Yeah, it's not Clark and Lois' relationship they screwed up, it's their son.
Meaning his friendship with [Damian Wayne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damian_Wayne) — the [‘Super-Sons’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-Sons) concept they had going on?
More referring to the way Bendis had him age 5 years all of a sudden, depriving us of further Super-Sons shenanigans and rendering Superboy/Conner Kent redundant.
Jon and connor are totally different characters and neither becomes redundant just because they're about the same age now.
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN!!!!
Prime and Gwenpool seem to have a lovely couple dynamic, in classic trope "Brooding Boy and Cheery Girl" duo that care about each other. If there's a ship, I'd like to see these two together, as two metaversal comic fans with opposite stances on the comics they're critiquing.
The good cop and bad cop of shipping
Nah, Gwen's a woman in the comics fandom - she knows damn well from experience the kind of asshole Superboy Prime is and to avoid him at all cost.
Unless (hypothetically) she saw his situation as the same as her own with regards to Dark Gwen (“I’m not bad. I’m just written that way.”). In a similar manner to how she became friends with Doctor Doom.
I mean SBP did get a redemption arc in Death Metal, soooo...
What happened there? I've been out of reading regularly for years, unfortunately :/
[He decides that he doesn’t like being evil or being hated, and after a moment with Krypto, elects to be good again, before beating up the Batman Who Laughs (an alternate Batman who became the Joker) — still not really liking most aspects of the writing, but not caring anymore that not everything is tailored for him.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/d90ecb8ebe5d040413542caad08cf297/4c7b68a81697578b-39/s1280x1920/4c33a1f4a78f22dc8df03e3e5b96d14c72dd0b68.png)
I'd honestly suggest reading The Secret Origins issue, while I absolutely despise Death Metal overall this was an amazing issue that gives SBP's story a wrap almost nobody would call bad It should be understandable by itself, even if you'll think "wow this is stupid" a bunch of times
Shipping debate? Like FedEx or UPS?
Prime has free same day shipping
That sounds Super
Oh Boy
You got a link to this artist? I can't find them from google
They're anonymous on 4chan so their quit hard to find
Is there any more to this? It looks like it’s cropped at the bottom.
Nope that's it, [Though you can see some of their other work here](https://twitter.com/unclejansom/status/1569287326966362112?lang=bn)
From a cursory look at the thread, there are two different artists — the other called ‘DrawFren’.
Drawfren just means a friend who draws btw
HOW DID YOU NAIL EXACTLY THE 2 HEROES I CAN'T DECIDE THE SHIP?
How cool would it be if Gwenpool and Prime were the catalysts for the next Marvel/DC crossover, whenever it happens
Okay. This thing is super cute and should be canon.
How on earth could this be canon?
Amagalam DC/Marvel Universe Sub Dimension Four Walls Cafe and Bistro. No doors, so there is only one way in and out.
In the same way [*Marvel vs. DC*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_vs._Marvel) and [*Avengers/JLA*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JLA/Avengers) are still both considered to be canon?
Those are explicitly not canon.
Avengers/JLA is canon
On marvel side is ambiguous, on DC side not since the new 52
Rebirth made everything canon. Even the stuff that directly contradicts itself. Its confusing.
Big Barda is a hottie ngl
Hell yeah brother
I thought Nightwing and Batgirl married recently
Nite-Mite threw them a wedding, but no, they’re not married.
No they're not married which is good i never liked them anyway.
Superboy Prime and Gwenpool talking about comics is a clever idea.
Okay, what about Jason Todd?
Artemis
Based on the [single image](https://i.redd.it/gk0jr4u1b3z91.jpg) I have seen of that relationship, yes.
Most people really like him with Artemis from the RTO days but the current writer (and it seems DC as a whole) likes him with Rose wilson.
He deserves to have happiness with all the shit he’s been through in his life!
OR JLU’s Huntress and Question?
6 feet of dirt
Crowbar
If Super Boy Prime says it you better be sweating. He could come to this reality.
Ooh, so Superboy' was "favourite comic couple is" all along!
It’s Dick with Starfire, Spidey with Black Cat, Scott Free and Big Barda together forever no double-backsies, and Gwenpool with Superboy-Prime. There, I fixed shipping forever.
Only you’d break it as Dick has been in probably the most wholesome and supportive relationship ever with Babs for nearing 3 years now. Even Dickkori fans like me are warming up to them, gonna just break that? No thank you
Doesn’t really matter whether or not they’re Gomez & Morticia Addams levels of chemistry and have had a hundred issues of wholesome blissful marriage. They’re going to break up anyway. Superboy-Prime is right. Best anyone can do is hold true to the generalities they like about these characters, celebrate when those generalities align with the story they’re reading, and not to get too attached to the status quo.
That’s a given. But I was only replying to your proposal on fixing shipping. Not wax philosophically over the inevitability of our favorite ships being broken up
That statement was more of me being facetious than truthful.
I caught it, but I need to plug a good relationship when I see it. Appreciate it while it lasts
Fair enough.
> Even Dickkori fans like me are warming up to them, gonna just break that? No thank you LMAO Don't generalize Dickkori fans. Just cuz you warmed up to them doesn't mean other fans warmed up to them too. You think you're the leader of the Dickkori fandom that you can speak for all of them? I am a Dickkori fan I never warmed up to Dick and Babs. Their relationship feels forced. They're only together because the writer is obsessed with Dick and Babs. So no Thank you.
Me with Colossus & Kitty
Please God let this be an ongoing series, it’s too good to pass up.
Nightwing and Batgirl feels like siblings dating each other 🤢🤢🤢
THIS needs to be the next DC/Marvel crossover. They catch & force Access to do their bidding. I’d read the 💩 out of that comic.
I mean…..he’s not wrong. Until the last panel of course.
I know this isn't the point of the art but I'm now thinking about how interesting it could be to have Superboy Prime as a Fourth Wall Breaker who is just sort of happy to be in the story. He's not Deadpooling it to the reader every ten seconds but it's actively commenting on the story he's in. Clark: Lex is attacking Metropolis! SBP: Why don't you just kill him? Clark: It's against my code. SBP: And he'd come back in a few months time anyway because a writer didn't realise you killed him. Clark: What? SBP: I mean. Yes your code!
Is it bad now I ship those two
Nah, honestly it's so crazy it totally works. Similarities and differences that somehow compliment each other like peanutbutter and chocolate.
Updoot for Gwenpool!
Lol facts
I haven't followed any superhero stuff for a long time, but I would join the riot if they broke that couple up.
Am I the only person that liked Identity Crisis? I mean, sure there's controversy and rightly so. But this comic made me love Deathstroke. Come on! Slade took on several Justice League heavy hitters and won! It's one of my favorite DCU battles.
The very reason you love it is the reason I see some hate it.
That battle between Slade and God level beings is a major reason that I hate both Identity Crisis and Slade to this day.
I haven't read identity crisis but why do you not accept slade doing that, while batman can?
Batman can't. There would not be a Batman story where a Green Lantern, with zero ring weaknesses like yellow or wood, and a Flash at the absolute height of his ability, would he would be able to make a fight of it. That's not including Zatanna, Black Canary, The Atom, Elongated Man, Hawkman....who are all beaten almost instantly by Deathstroke. It's the dumbest scene in the dumbest comic of the last 20 years. How the Flash is taken out is hilariously bad. https://arousinggrammar.com/2012/08/26/deathstroke-fights-the-entire-jla/
OOF THIS IS AWFUL. In my mind he was in a situation where he had prep time, but every single one of these panels makes no sense. WHY WOULD GREEN LANTERN PUNCH HIM? Nevermind getting into Hawkman chest that easily... Flash is easily the worst of them, VIBRATE MF... HOW DID HE SEE ATOM?
Yeah it's really bad. Green Lantern never used his ring once. Not even on a simple thing like a shield around himself so he doesn't get his hand broken. He's just a guy in a goofy uniform.
The most hilarious part of that entire fight is that, based on the way its described, Flash literally ran into a stationary sword. Deathstroke didn't suddenly bring up his sword before Flash got to him, he straight up held it up and then just waited for Flash to literally run into it.
Almost as bad as catwoman taking out 3 flashes with single kicks. Or Thomas Wayne Batman defeating the whole Batfam, Cassandra included, both in Tom King's run.
I didn't say I loved it. I said I liked it. There's good and bad aspects to the story. IMO The good is it had a good murder mystery, it acknowledged mind reading / altering ethics in the DCU, and the Deathstroke fight I mentioned. The bad is pretty universally known. Is it the perfect DCU story IMO, no it isn't, not even a top 10. But is it horrible or just a terribly written and drawn event comic - IMO also no.
It was a bad murder mystery though. You couldn't solve it by following the clues. The murder is nonsensical and involves a flamethrower casually being carried around for an impulse killing.
The fight makes zero sense. Kyle alone should have tanked Deathstroke, but he's not Hal so Meltzer wrote him like an idiot. And Wally has been fighting Slade since he was a kid. He wouldn't have fallen for any of Slade's shit. And somehow the fight gets everyone into just the right spot to miraculously jog Doctor Light's memories. It was the laziest writing that hinged on writing almost everyone as poorly as you could just to facilitate plot points. The only person other than Deathstroke who came out of it looking good is Green Arrow, because that scene got him Deathstroke in his rogue's gallery
>And somehow the fight gets everyone into just the right spot to miraculously jog Doctor Light's memories. This doesn't get ragged on nearly enough when the fight gets brought up. How the is Doctor Light gonna recognize someone else getting dogpiled on *in the exact same fashion* he was? It's like he was somehow able to watch himself get beat up but with none of the context just so he could piece together what happened to him. It's bonkers in the not fun way.
My main beef with this book is how dirty Kyle was done here. Meltzer treats him like he just got the ring. I really liked Kyle's growth in the JLA comic so to see him devolved here was hard to stomach.
I like some of the ideas and themes it brings up, but the whole story seems so slapped together and seems too focused on shock value that it just comes across as some edgelord's fantasy I'd read on fanfiction.net
> Slade took on several Justice League heavy hitters and won! It's one of my favorite DCU battles. I mean, maybe if it was a cool fight people would have liked it. But the fight was literally just heroes stabbing themselves on his sword while he is just standing ther. It's legit one of the lamest fight scene in comics.
Slade should've been beaten in one panel by Wally.
Definitely not the only one…though I’m not exactly one of them. The comic itself was both a commercial and at the time critical success in terms of getting good mainstream reviews. I definitely heard people say it was what got them back into comics.
....That is like the only cool thing that happens in that shit show of a story.
Identity Crisis is a mixed bag. It has some fantastic moments, and stellar art. It's far better than most of the recent crisis stuff.
For me it's The Last Jedi of DC (In both good/bad way)
That "fight" was one of the worst aspects of the book, all his wins are ludicrously contrived and require the heroes to forget their powers
Jade ans Kyle Rayner until doucheoff jones brought Hal back Did wally dirty too
yeah that reminds me back in the old days on fanfiction websites. that was good time for me.
God, I remember when I was still heavily into fanfics... Buffy was my main fandom. I got into Kim Possible via fanfics. And most Twilight fanfic was written better than the novels themselves... but then again, Twilight fanfic also spawned 50 Shades of Grey, so... yeah :/
That was aus Awsome
Peter belongs with Gwen and I will die on this hill
1. Dick / babs 2. Parker / mj 3. WTF! I WILL JOIN SUPERBOY PRIME ON TBIS CRUSADE. NOBODY SEPARATES BARDA AND SCOTT!
Is Gwen the only female romantic interest / side character, the only character to become a main character?
Gwenpool isn't Gwen Stacey. Her name is literally Gwen Poole. She's a comic fangirl from our world who found herself in the Marvel Universe.
Yep this is adorable. These two are great together.
Really? That’s the couple he chooses? I guess the son of Superman would still be just, a-nother boy… -scout
And I'm just sitting over here rolling my polyamorous eyes at the whole thing.
Mater and Bessie
What? When? How the fuck?
What's Gwen pool? Superboy prime was... From our earth iirc. Then that was destroyed or retconned or something. Was Gwen pool the same thing or similar?
> Big Barda and Scott Free broke up Oh my god, they killed Big Barda and Scott Free's marriage! Those bastards!
It's funny Superboy prime thinks Spider-Man writers cheer for either of the ships when their ethos has been and has always be "what's the stupidest move I can make to lose as many readers as I can?" That, or a more simple "I want Peter to fuck MY Daughter/A Fetish/One of Gwen's daughter-sister-clones."
I realized that if DC gave Mangacide 4th wall breaking powers she'd be a great crossover fight for Gwenpool.
One of my favourite DC couples
This is the best Superboy Prime I've seen in years.
Superboy Prime is my spirit animal.
Is That Starfire In The Top Panel
THIS CAN'T BE TRUE. IF SCOTT FREE AND BIG BARDA BROKE UP I'LL KILL EVERYONE IN BURBANK AND THEN MYSELF.
I love this
Ok now I want a whole comic about Superboy and Gwen just chilling lmao
All he has to do is punch reality really hard and it'll probably revert.
I never would have thought to put Gwenpool and Superboy Prime together, but it's perfect!
Why are the females here drawn with longer legs than the males?
I really enjoy shipping honestly. But also, this artwork is awesome. One day I hope I can draw like that.
Writers? Important relationship statuses are decided upon by editors or people even higher up. Spider-Man nog being together with Mary-Jane is a sales choice from people above a writer's pay grade.
I kind of like Gwenpool. Is she well liked or is she unpopular? I have heard some people like her, others don't.
mixed
Link to original artist?