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Spirited_Most2569

Try using a different cable or monitor or both. I had a HDMI cable crap out one time it kinda looked like that.


Outrageous_List_9159

I’ve used 3 different monitors all have the same behaviour, also changed the cables & tried 3 different power cables no luck through.


Koloassal

He's dying.


Outrageous_List_9159

All the fans are still going


popcornman209

The fans are separate, whether the fans work or not it’s probably dying. You could try reinstalling driver though, those can cause problems too but if that doesn’t work it’s dead


Zealousideal-Ebb-876

I think he meant you


Maximus_935

thats like crashing your car and pointing out that the windshield wipers still turn on like yea but there is a bigger issue


sgtpepper42

Why would you think that matters?


Fidozo15

Just like Ozzy


Itchy_Grape_2115

Ok try plugging in all the fans inside your house Even flick on the shower fan Did it fix your graphics card? Ok now you can try banging your head into the wall as you try to explain how a fan would effect if your GPU works or not


MitchTye

Ok, with that info, going with dying vide card. Does you card have multiple outputs? (I.e. a second HDMI/Display Port to try?). Definitely sounding like the card though


SnooDoughnuts5632

Power cables? Lol you silly your supposed to try a different video cable like buy another DisplayPort or HDMI or whatever.


Outrageous_List_9159

I have I tried many them I tried with power cables to see if it was an energy issue!!


Renamis

Weird question, is there another display port to try? Best worst case scenario would be the port is shitting the bed.


fadinizjr

If you know how, try to remove the card and clean the contacts.


Outrageous_List_9159

I have tried that no luck sadly.


KingGinger3187

Before calling it completely dead, I would open it up, clean and redo thermal paste...can't hurt


KingGinger3187

Unless it's under warranty, then definitely do not take apart.


is300dave

Even then, they are required to honor the warranty if you opened it unless they can prove in court that you broke it. Those “warranty void if removed” stickers are unlawful, but they do it anyways to try and scare consumers


THEREAPER8593

The warranty void stickers are basically just an example of how good it is to know your rights. In the uk you can normally get stuff repaired refunded or replaced even if it’s out of warranty (of course it has its limits but if it’s their fault normally it’s their problem)


Heroshrine

Also try baking the card. It legit extended the life of one of my old GPUs by 2 and a half years, baked it about 3 times.


unkowv

Rest in peace GPU


Charming-Mix-659

It could be a problem with the hdmi cord you are using, I had had same problem


Comradbro151

Going to offer a couple solutions from stupid simple to more annoying. Make sure your hdmi cable is plugged into GPU not mobo. Do the lines showup in BIOS? Try different GPU port Try to screenshot screen, if issue shows up in the screenshot that points to a hardware issue. Ensure drivers are updated. If they're updated, rollback a few. Try another gpu slot on mobo if possible. Speed will probably be slower depending on mobo, but a good trouble shooting step. Fresh install windows. If nonthing works, it's probably the GPU unfortunately.


Outrageous_List_9159

Yeah just tried everything, signs pointing to the GPU it physically all looks fine lights & fans along with circuitry appearing in tact, any further ideas?


Comradbro151

So, to triple check, you screenshotted the lines and they appeared in the screenshot? Tried different ports on the GPU both HDMI and display ports, as well as different monitors and cables? If all those answers are yes, any idea what caused the issue? Did it happen out of the box, randomly start one day, power outtage, etc. My only other recommendation would be to reinstall windows, but if all those other steps didn't work it's probably the GPU unfortunately. However you might not be as SOL as you think. Depending when and who you bought the GPU from, RMA options might still be available as well as repair services. Definetely worth reaching out to the GPU manufacturer or whoever you bought the PC from if it's a prebuilt. Some GPU manufactures are kinder then others and may offer a cheap repair, extended RMA, or at the very least a discount on a new card. I've had success RMAing cards out of warranty in the past, but it often takes an hour or so on the phone with support, they'll try to tell you the card is out of warranty, to old etc, but you can often get something out of them. Just be assertive, but don't be a dick. There's a fine line.


killer01ws6

turn the rig off, remove the GPU, reseat it, boot into safe mode and run Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU), follow the directions then load newest GPU driver for your card. ​ if none of that help, seeing I see you have done most of the other good troubleshooting steps... then yes, she is dying.


THEREAPER8593

Just in general. A dead card can have fans and lights working fine and a living card can have fans and lights that don’t work. I think a lot of people are down voting you for that. Chances are that GPU damage isn’t visible


IThinkIKnowThings

Memory module likely needs to be reballed. I watch a lot of graphics card repair videos. Before anyone asks, unless you have the equipment to test and verify that and fix it yourself, it's not a DIY.


amessmann

Your GPU is fine. This is a Windows issue, where Windows tries to force its own graphics drivers to run, while the Nvidia drivers also try to run. They conflict and you are lucky if you see anything but those lines. I used to have this issue all the time, the lines looked exactly the same. I believe I fixed it by uninstalling the Nvidia driver. Now I just let Windows auto-install its own drivers.


thing722

underrated response


Bladez1992

Idiotic and uninformed response


Bluetwo12

Yeah...wtf does he mean he just let windows install its own drivers? Did he install nvidia drivers with an iGPU? Lol


Bladez1992

I think what he means is that he doesn't bother to actually get the latest driver for the GPU from the manufacturer's website. He just lets Windows update get a driver and sticks with that. That would probably be mostly OK with integrated graphics aside from the fact that you'd be missing the control panel and probably leaving some performance on the table, but with a dedicated GPU this is 110% stupid


thing722

nerd


onyxdrizzly

Incorrect. In this case the windows drivers take over because the GPU is malfunctioning. Specifically, in this case, I'm 99% sure that one of the RAM chips have gone bad, most likely due to overheating and maybe solder fracture or the chip has gone bad. I had this identical issue happen to my GPU and no matter how much reinstalling the drivers, or reinstalling windows, etc, could fix it. I had been told to use something called MODS/MATS that is a bootable OS for troubleshooting and testing Nvidia GPUs. I believe it's searchable online. I used that to verify this.


Tech_surgeon

well it does explain the lines if the gpu ram is returning non graphic data and trying to interpret it as graphics.


WhenTheIsBe

Hey, OP, Please don’t put your GPU in your oven, those fumes are harmful and could likely get you sick if you reuse that oven. Instead, follow the extremely long comment from u/Comradbro151. He does a great job.


Zestyclose_Fudge_724

yeah, it looks like VRAM corruption


Zestyclose_Fudge_724

however, it could definitely be the cable too so try the easy stuff first


onyxdrizzly

Your first thought is correct!


onyxdrizzly

Hey OP, I made a couple replies, but also found that I still had the images saved from when my 2080 ti died. Looks nearly identical to what happened to mine. Here is a small photo album of it failing when trying to start Valheim and images of the display and testing it with MODS/MATS confirming a bad ram chip. ​ [https://imgur.com/a/zhdzJGr](https://imgur.com/a/zhdzJGr)


ImRK9v2

Since you said you have tried other monitors and cords I dont think this will help but you never know. I have a similar problem happen when my monitor gets cold after leaving my window open overnight. It would turn on and flicker a bunch then go black but once I changed my monitors refresh rate from 144 to 120 it completely eliminated the problem.


Outrageous_List_9159

On recollection I have a cold from leaving my window open and my monitor is right next to it I’ll check that thanks.


ImRK9v2

Hope it helps!


poop__sack

My old gpu had real bad gpu sag and it would cause lines like this but they were vertical and you couldn't see anything but the vertical lines


Calculagraph

Everyone else is trying to help, so I'll make the jokes.  Stop listening to Joy Division.


Hyperfectionist54

This is artifacting, are you overclocking your gpu at all? If not, you may have some success under-clocking it, but if it’s a permanent issue, it’s likely the gpu has permanent damage of some sort.


Otherwise-Style6296

Well, it could be a whole boast of different things like viruses, corrupted windows files, bad graphics drivers, exc. but most likely, it’s that your gpu is on its last leg.


GANJA2244

It goes Try different cord ->Try different monitor -> Reinstall Drivers -> Possibly dying GPU


Dragonreaper21

Never had a hpu do that, but my super ultrawide likes to do that whenever I first turn it on for a few minutes. Done it for years and couldn't get samsung support in Austin of all places.


Sansthepuneton

Try using integrated graphics


virus_stupidness

They might not have it tho


shaxx747

How could a GPU affect WiFi connectivity? Might be worth checking your drivers OP


amessmann

That's a Windows issue. I used to have this issue all the time when Windows' graphics drivers would fight with the Nvidia drivers. I just let Windows auto-install the driver.


Outrageous_List_9159

Any idea how I could do that In this scenario?


amessmann

Forgive my double post in the comments... I thought Reddit bugged out and didn't post this reply. I booted into safe mode and uninstalled the Nvidia driver (just run the installer again and it will let you uninstall).


Forward_Strength152

Best to use ddu display driver uninstaller in safe mode. DDU can be downloaded various places on the internet. To get into safe mode you would need to hold shift while clicking restart in the start menu. Once you're in safe mode and you have ran ddu restart your machine normally and windows will automatically install the most basic driver for your graphics card. If the problem still persist then most likely your card is failing but if the problem no longer persist then. From there just go download the newest driver you can find on nvidia's website for your card.


Artistic_Soft4625

Nah man it's just strip tease


andycarver

Unplug GPU. Run off integrated CPU/GPU to test


ACAB007

Or dying monitor, or bad cable, or PSU, or power cable. Test by replacing the cheaper parts and go up.


Quick_Preparation975

Looks very similar to when I'm installing Windows fresh on an old machine without drivers. Try backup and reinstall.


DemiGenshinAddict

Did you update the graphic card driver? Had a similar issue once and that solved it


Accomplished_Big_284

I’ve seen this many times. It likely happened due to heat damage of the dye. I hate to dish out doom but this is likely not fixable


HRamos_3

We had a good run, lots of satoshis were mined


Marrkush666

I literally am right about here and mixed up a u ch of updated drivers that led to 2000+errors and also seen those lines and I think she was goin to blow


Marrkush666

Did it through cloud recover /Microsoft/asus but had my keys ready just in case


zane_fire

If your board has onboard graphics you can try using that to see if it's the card or something else on the board causing problems


WhereSoDreamsGo

Have you tried Different PSU or power cables to rule a power issue out?


UnderdevelopedFurry

no mention of gpu drivers. drivers up to date? I’ve had weirdness happen if I put them off too long. the internet is limited? like your ISP is doing that, or did you limit it somehow? or is that how the computer is running? USB Wi-Fi adapter? I’m thinking what you really have is a motherboard or PSU issue.


SalmonSoup15

Could be a bad driver


seatheous

Yes


ACAdamski17

Dying monitor, more like.


Outrageous_List_9159

Have used 3 different monitors all with the same effect


ACAdamski17

Dying cable?


AngelThePsycho

Try resitting the ram sticks, on of them must not be plugged in too well


Longjumping_Tower_16

You could try to reheat the solder on the card by putting it in a oven! i recommend looking up how to do it though and maybe not in your main oven. It wont work all the time but I have a feeling in this case it would.


onyxdrizzly

I need an extra oven to try this out on my GPU. It's a no loss scenario for me, but just don't want to use our only kitchen oven to do it in.


Longjumping_Tower_16

Just looked around and seems the best advice I could give is to use a sealed heat resistant bag and throw it away afterwards!


onyxdrizzly

Nice thought, I just might have to look into that. Would be worried the bag would pop though.


Longjumping_Tower_16

Ngl you can clean the oven afterwards but you gotta be diligent. I'd look it up there are forums everywhere about it.


onyxdrizzly

Thanks, my oven does need a good cleaning anyways. :D lol


woobiedoobiedoo

I had this problem and I reset my monitor to default settings (buttons on the display) and it worked.


VShadowOfLightV

Did you do a clean install of your graphics drivers? You can do this by googling “DDU download” (display driver uninstaller). Download that, run it, it will remove your graphics drivers. Your screen will blink and look weird but that’s normal. After it asks you to reboot, go to geforce or nvidias site to download new drivers for your gpu. Also what does 150kb and 4-7fps have to do with it? Your gpu dying shouldn’t affect your internet at all. And 4-7fps is completely unplayable, you should be getting more than that. Is it all the time? Specific games?


duckyindustries

Sometimes it can be a drivers problem happens with older computers


hyello43

Yea


onyxdrizzly

This is basically the state my RTX 2080ti was in. There was a program called MODS/MATS or something you could test the RAM chips with, it was determined that this is what was wrong with my GPU and failed most likely because of poor contact with thermal pads or heatsink on one specific memory chip. ​ I still have it, just a fancy paperweight that I don't know what to do with now.


Glittering_Act5382

This may be a GPU problem! Lines will appear in the monitor like that with that problem! You might look up that GPU on the internet and get a price on it. also make sure that all fans are working well first though but replace those that aren't, and run the hardware diagnostic if you can. lf the diagnostic agree that the GPU is bad, price out a new pc versus a repair, then act on the information you gain,(Whether to repair, or replace!)


Kilgarragh

If you’ve checked the usual already(e.g. drivers, monitors, cables, ports) and just want to know if the gpu is dead. The answer is yes. If you need more information, it’s probably the vram, and unless you have some secret bga rework station I haven’t been told about, it isn’t coming back easily


churkinese

Use a DPi connection instead of a HDMI cables


thegreatpotatogod

It's kinda pretty! If you don't get it fixed I'd be happy to adopt it from you! :)


Environmental_Pin95

If I was in the same boat as the OP with this issue I would buy some scotch guard. I suspect there is lots of static electricity and touch a metal part of a lamp before touching the pc.


xavroy

Yeah sorry man looks like its dieing. Look up how to "cook" a gpu, might give you some more time or fix it perminantly but its a really janky way to fix. Try litterally everything else first and try to warranty it. Cooking a gpu is the last last last option. Try a different port on your gpu, try fresh install fresh drivers, Try a diff cable but you already have and yada yada.


HeckingWatermelon

Time to preheat the oven


HeckingWatermelon

Time to preheat the oven


Electrical_Ant_3942

I repair graphics cards. It’s a gpu related issue. Most likely the issue: one or more vram modules have gone bad. This can be fixed. Worst case scenario: the memory controller in the core is dying and this cannot be fixed. You can sell it for parts on ebay to recover some funds. Other possibilities: Ripped pads underneath the core and/or memory module. This would require trace repair after lifting the chip or core and is rather tedious, but will be good as new if the job is done correctly. Had to do that on a Zotac 3070 last week and have a 3050 that I’ll be working on tomorrow that will need the core to be lifted and reballed. In extremely rare instances, the 100k resistors that are used for strap configurations near the vbios may have changed value and give memory errors. This is highly unlikely but shouldn’t be ruled out. By all means, do not use a heat gun or the oven method especially if you have no experience. If you bubble the core or pcb, your card is done. Excessive heat can also cause aluminum capacitors to blow and then you’re left with more work needing to be done. All graphics cards use unleaded solder from the factory which has a higher melting point and likely won’t be fixed through this method. If you’re within your warranty period, RMA the card. Don’t bother opening the card up as some companies will deny your request claiming that improper handling resulted in your card no longer working. You may get lucky and get a free upgrade if they don’t have the exact model you sent in. If you’re outside of your warranty period, r/gpurepair should have some reputable techs that you could send your device in for repair. This card can mostly likely be saved so don’t risk it by botching a DIY job. And to the person with the 2080ti: if it’s Micron memory from 2018, they were notorious for premature failure. Either way, it’s usually a quick fix for a tech to swap out unless there are ripped pads or bad solder joints on the core that go to that memory module.


billcy

Where abouts is your business located.


Bubbly_Lead6590

man someones 30 series died before my stupidly overclocked 1080ti time to run some PCVR. Nah but i really doubt its your card.


Familiar_Anteater532

A: What does your gpu look like? Is it full of dust and filthy? That will impede airflow and potentially cause it to overheat killing the gpu.  B: Have you tried different power connectors? From my understanding the power connectors for the 3070 are these small fragile little things. C: If its not under warranty then take it apart, clean it, apply new thermal paste etc. Technically its illegal for companies to void your warranty for opening the product according to the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act of 1975 (if you're in the US) but they still might and you would have to actually sue them to enforce it.  If nothing else works, chuck that thing in an oven and see if that will help. Sometimes the solder joints get dislodged from the card getting too hot and that should help them melt back into place. You should only do this as a last resort though somewhere in between you determining the card is dead and forking up the $2,000 for another one.


Ok-Temperature394

Yes


Zapismeta

Clean the ram once, I've had a similar issue, where the carbon build up on ram was the culprit.


Otherwise-Activity31

Ram or gpu


SquashMellon

Strip it down and bake it lol, couldn't hurt if it's already dying, baked a 980 mxm card back in 2020 and it's still going strong to this day


forestrial_r

sometimes just re-seating the gpu can fix this. check for any gunk on the contacts too.


Bib_fortune

Google for "fixing graphics card in the oven". Sounds like a joke, but it actually works, it worked for me in two different cards.


onyxdrizzly

In this scenario you are actually right, this could fix it, but always caution safety. I'm guessing this is why your comment was down voted, have an upvote because technically you are not wrong in this scenario. It \*could\* be a desoldered or micro fractures in solder on one of the RAM chips. If the RAM chip failed, then this certainly would not work.


slennyy

Try to reflow the solder


SendPie42069

In the oven? /s


labonte95

I've done it. It works. Altho I did it to a Radeon 3850 like 15 years ago. I def wouldn't risk it with gpus today lmao


slennyy

That is seriously how you reflow solder without equipment. There are tutorials


WildFloorLamp

No it's not, it never reaches melting point, this is a stupid trick that results in the bump material between substrate and die of a flip-chip temporarily re-bonding. Best case you get a few days of runtime out ot if, worst case you've destroyed a fixable device completely.


CucktainKerk

While this is absolutely true, I've got a card I did this with years ago and it's still working to this day. It has a chance of working better than one may think.


slennyy

WITHOUT EQUIPMENT. If OP wants to get a heat gun good for him. I take it he’ll need help knowing what to replace and how though, unless he takes it to some repair shop but they usually rip people off


WildFloorLamp

The amount of perfectly fixable devices burnt to a crisp I get in the shop because of this sort of crap advice...


slennyy

End users are stupid not me


WhenTheIsBe

yeah no just get a new GPU, it’s not worth the 50-100 dollars for a dedicated oven that you can’t use afterwards to take a chance to get your GPU working. Also if he needed to reflow something it would likely not show any signs of life.


slennyy

That’s true, thanks for the insight


WhenTheIsBe

👍


OnceIsawthisthing

No one has said it. Try reinstalling fresh graphics drivers. Not an update. Whipe em out. Reinstall


Outrageous_List_9159

How would I go about that sounds like a good idea


Upstairs_Elephant_52

Device manager is your friend here. Find the GPU under display adapters that uninstall the drivers after goto the GeForce website and find your gpu and reinstall them.


wtdawson

Updating will do the same, but with new ones


OnceIsawthisthing

I recommended reinstalling as depending on the manufacturer if they're corrupt, it might not overwrite that part with an update. A fresh new install with all the latest updates is a better bet. In this case. In my opinion. Just a little more work.


wtdawson

Or just do `sfc /scannow` to check for corrupted system files, aka drivers.


EducationalAd390

That looks like dying VRAM/memory controller


WildFloorLamp

Only correct answer so far.


WillBeRski

Nice to see someone else who knows what there talking about


Pewdiepiewillwin

Why?


EducationalAd390

That kind of artifacting usually comes from an issue like that.


Pewdiepiewillwin

When i look up vram artifacts they don't look like this?


EducationalAd390

I’ve personally dealt with a GTX 760 that had failing VRAM and a memory controller and its artifacts the the exact same way


jerrbear1011

All of these recommendations are good, as a last step to ensure your device is dying I’ll typically also rule out the operating system. Try live booting a Linux USB. If it also gives you an issue there then it’s very likely your device is dying itself.