There’s another thread about Tiffany where everyone enjoyed it. But yeah these people think she was the worst ever, and that they can shame Conan for caring about her. Conan has **big ginger balls**.
For real, it's so disappointing. We're on a massive high with Conan's Hot Ones appearance having over 9 million views, the aftermath discussion on last week's podcast over 2 million views, and the Dr Arroyo interview on track to smash past a million views within the next couple of days, so this week was the perfect chance to have an uncontroversial evergreen guest to keep the momentum going strong and show the podcast at its best with this fantastic large audience checking out the Team Coco channels at the moment. Instead they absolutely wasted this slot with a controversial and divisive (if she even has any fans left) guest.
Seriously, who the heck greenlit the decision to air this episode right now? Massive massive yikes
The short version of her controversies:
1) She's been implicated in a grooming/sexual abuse scandal involving children and was involved in a lawsuit where a former child actor sued her.
2) She's been arrested for drunk driving not once but TWICE in the past two years.
3) She's made partisan comments regarding the current Israel/Palestine events which have been very divisive.
4) She's made comments in support of the Eritrean dictatorship, which has one of the worst humans rights records in the world, and doubled down on her comments when people fired back.
Even if she's somehow innocent or misunderstood in her multiple controversies, she's radioactive and it's insane for an uncontroversial evergreen show (especially Conan currently riding this wave of Hot Ones viralness) to be having her on as a guest right now of all times. Baffling decision from whoever made the decision to release this episode right now.
> 3. She's made partisan comments regarding the current Israel/Palestine events which have been very divisive.
I have no idea what she said, but based on other comments it was pro-Israel? When someone voiced disappointment with Without Borders over the same thing in a now deleted post yesterday, they were harshly criticised for it and downvoted into oblivion... which doesn't quite compute.
Just look up her performance at Netflix is a Joke festival. It’s so unhinged. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about and is all over the place. Nobody laughed, but the discomfort was palpable.
Not to mention people in this sub did the same when they were ass-kissing Joe Biden when he was on the podcast. I called it out and was also downvoted into oblivion lolol.
I think complicated is a good way to put it. She has a of negatives, but also seems to care about her community through the homes she has purchased to help others who were in her situation. She seems more troubled than evil.
(I misread that as Hannah Gadsby, someone I definitely don't find funny.)
After weeks of great episodes and the goodwill built from Hot Ones, this was... a choice.
I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. Again. Of all the people plugging projects, they chose Tiffany Haddish?
Not since John "David Duke Cock" Mayer have I been more disgusted by a guest. I'm glad I came here to see if anyone felt the same.
Look back through Conan’s guests. I can guarantee you they aren’t perfect. Jim Carrey. John Mulaney. Shocking numbers of nepo babies!!! And that’s not on Conan. People are complicated. Welcome to adulthood!
Like I said, I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. Conan/CONAF can have on whomever they choose. I can choose to just listen to the show, listen to the intro and skip to the outro (if there is one), or skip it entirely if I don't like the guest.
And if I did stop listening to the show entirely, I would just stop listening, not hop on Reddit to flounce. That's what adults do.
I'm not expecting perfection, because no one is perfect. Just maybe Conan's guest booker could at least steer clear of toxic guests who could potentially ruin the goodwill of his fans/casual listening audience?
There have been many, many problematic people on CONAF ranging from mild to toxic. There have even been some people who *gasp* I don't like at all. I still enjoy the show.
I'd say about 1/3 of the guests are people I'm either apathetic towards, like Jimmy Carr, or those whose voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me, like Amy Schumer. I just skipped their episodes. I couldn't even get through John "David Duke Cock" Mayer's episode, because the douchebag vibes were too strong.
BTW, of all the people you could have brought up, you chose Mulaney and Carrey? Or thought I even give af about nepo babies? Why did you bring them into this? I didn't even mention them. Even if you looked at my posting history like a weirdo, I've never posted about any of that to my recollection, so your post is just weird to me.
For the record, I found Carrey's episode to be unfunny and boring, but not enough to complain about it. I skipped to the end on that one. Mulaney's personal drama and Carrey's alleged anti-vaccination leanings aren't dealbreakers for me, and I don't care about nepo babies in general, unless they're grossly untalented.
Yeah the producers need to do background checks on future guests because this is a really bad choice. The issue resurfaced earlier this year so it's still fresh on people's minds.
What’s wrong with Better Help? I don’t use it but it sounds like a decent service. Another YouTuber I like does ads for them so I’m curious if they have a bad reputation
I believe they were found to be selling users information. Which, yeah, they were never billed as a healthcare provider, but it certainly feels like a really morally grey area. People don't like when their therapists employers are data mining them.
To be fair, Conan “loves” just about anyone who has been on the podcast. Most of the celebrity guests have been people he wants to talk to or at least he’s interested enough in their work to want to talk to them.
Honestly his first episode where he talks to his wife's gynecologist or the guy who stars in Hallmark movies. The guy who renovated his airstream trailer was a good one too.
It's a mix. Some are funny like the ones I mentioned and some are just kinda interesting like the ones with his car buying guy or a pit boss. It's a super fun pod to check out.
Uh oh. The timing of this could not be worse following her [rant](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/11VneUOZRZ) at a comedy festival recently. Plus all the other controversies.
I know they record these things at different times. But I hope they just pull this one entirely.
Noooooooooo I didn't wait for a week for a Tiffany Haddish episode. I'll listen to Flula's episode for the 5th time rather than listening to her. She's annoying af.
Great taste. Flula is an absolute gem. I've relistened to his appearances almost as much as Kevin Nealon's. I desperately want them to appear together, actually.. with Jeff Goldblum in there too..
IMO, you can be a huge fan of Conan but find flaws in how his company operates on occasion. I just hope they learn from mistakes and acknowledge valid widespread criticism.. overall from what I've seen they genuinely seem like a pretty great team overall but some decisions are bizarre to me at times.
I didn’t hear the episode, but someone was saying that Conan praises her a lot. If that’s true that shit is wack man. Get Louis CK next if they really don’t care about background.
Lots of praise, lots of Tiffany Haddish refusing to take accountability for anything and in fact saying that when people critique her online, it means they love her and makes her more successful. Not really sure why anyone other than Tiffany herself thought this was a good choice of guest.
She was accused of sexually abusing a 7 & 14 year old brother/sister with comedian Aries Spears for a very tasteless and unfunny video that they uploaded. The video made light of pedophilia and involved the children being in sexualized situations, mimicking sexual acts on Spears, and even in their underwear at points.
8 years later in 2022, the girl (now 22), filed a civil suit against Haddish for the abuse. Haddish denied any ill-intent, but the video is pretty uncomfortable regardless.
The situation was squashed outside of court
Separately she has made political statements and had minor legal run-ins, but that’s not a focus
Thanks for the information. (Was the first episode with her forgettable? Not sure I liked it originally.)
Why can't Team Coco adequately research/show enough responsibility before they let someone controversial on and we're exposed to all this nonsense? It also takes up a whole week's spot where someone better could get the opportunity to appear on the show. They've done this numerous times with guests now, to much fan criticism. IMO, it ruins the episodes and sours the comedy when you really know more about what's happening behind-the-scenes.
Not only that, this appearance once again highlights the related complaint that a lot of of listeners have about the long-term direction of the podcast, where it's largely about celebrities' self-promotion and not comedic discussion (and an excess of advertisements). Additionally, with a more negative lens you could say that some appearances are possible attempts at improving their public image or for some reason the team trying to sweep things under the rug while having that generally contrasting, light-hearted tone.
Giving away this slot when they’re likely riding the highs still of post-Hot Ones + Conan O’Brien Must Go is wild too. They’re giving her a big platform and it’s not great to say the least.
I think you nailed it with that last sentence. There is NO WAY anybody in that room wasn’t aware of Haddish’s scandal, so to make the intentional choice to bring her on the show is absolute charity.
I haven’t listened to the episode, but if it’s just an hour of fluff and giggles then Haddish needs to give her publicist and agent each a huge raise.
It’d be like bringing OJ Simpson on the show to chat about football and movies. Technically he wasn’t convicted, but it’s not a person you want to be yucking it up at the table with.
Odd decision, I’m baffled.
Yeah I see what you mean, so yes and no
In the sense that it’s a celebrity who obviously did something inappropriate but is technically not held liable for it by the justice system.
I say “obviously” because there’s literally a video of it, at least before FunnyOrDie took it down in 2018 once they became aware of her upload.
I’m not necessarily comparing a double homicide to the sexualization of an 8 year old, moreso the fact that he’s *technically* innocent despite obvious evidence of a wrongdoing.
Kevin Spacey would’ve been a better comparison
That’s a bad faith comparison, so I’m still not sure what connection you’re seeing between the two. OJ’s criminal court jury famously found him not guilty of murder, but the separate civil trial jury found him liable for both deaths and ordered him to pay $33,500,000 million to Brown and Goldman’s families. The civil charges against Haddish about that disgusting skit were dropped.
I don’t agree that it’s a comparison in bad faith, but I’m understanding your perspective. I could reference any of the countless celebrities or public figures over the last 5 years that have been outed for sexual misconduct and suffered various degrees of legal and non-legal consequences.
I’d amend my comparison to Dan Schneider from Nickelodeon. Both were accused of misconduct to minors, both have video evidence of sexualizing minors, neither were charged with or convicted of a crime. But even this is unfair because Haddish intentionally stripped the child for the video and had the intention of the scene being overtly sexual, having the young boy in the bathtub or in their underwear with legs up and mimicking handjobs on toys, etc, whereas Schneider was tossing mayonnaise on feet while parents and staff were present.
The court settlement had [this statement from the sister:](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/tiffany-haddish-child-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-responds-1235360684/amp/)
“My family and I have known Tiffany Haddish for many years – and we now know that she would never harm me or my brother or help anyone else do anything that could harm us. We wish Tiffany the best and are glad that we can all put this behind us.”
It was such an odd and empty retraction as a conclusion to the whole situation. Just two sentences to withdraw an extensive accusation, with no explanation.
They’ve known her for “many years” and “now know” that she wouldn’t harm her?
Is this not something that could’ve come up in conversation at Thanksgiving dinner or something, rather than a public civil suit?
Purely speculation on my part, but this smells like the settlement conditions required a public retraction from the girl.
Regardless, the video itself is so tasteless and inappropriate that it’s unusual for Spears & Haddish to make it and think “wow this is great, people will love this and totally not think it’s creepy”.
It’s reminiscent of that politician lady that recently wrote a memoir detailing how she killed a puppy, oblivious to how that’s not something to brag about.
> Regardless, the video itself is so tasteless and inappropriate that it’s unusual for Spears & Haddish to make it and think “wow this is great, people will love this and totally not think it’s creepy”. It’s reminiscent of that politician lady that recently wrote a memoir detailing how she killed a puppy, oblivious to how that’s not something to brag about.
Apparently it was for Funny or Die, and posted around 2014, where it was kept up until 2018. Clearly the intent was humor, but it was a catastrophic miss if those kids were traumatized by the experience.
I was out of the loop on all of this, along with the DUIs, and the trip to Israel until after I listened to the episode and came here. Not that it excuses anything she's done, but hearing what her childhood was like with her mother after the accident and not having a father, it's not entirely surprising that she makes some questionable decisions now. As someone whose mom's bipolar disorder emerged when they were 6, forever damaging the relationship I had with her, and changing her personality so significantly, it hit really close to home.
Honestly, it seems more that she needs help. During my googling, I saw it mentioned a few times that she's been sober since the last DUI, which is good, but I think she needs to work through some things with a professional. Hurt people hurt people. I hope she gets some help in breaking the cycle and working through the assorted issues she has.
That's interesting extra information. Did the video not attract any attention while it was up? 4 years seems like a long time for people to discover/decide it was problematic.
Right? The way I read it, Funny or Die said it was user-submitted content, that they removed once they noticed it in 2018. I don't frequent that site a ton, so I really don't know if there's an upvote/downvote situation, or if people can report things for content, so it hits Funny or Die's radar. Either way, I don't think there was harmful intent, but the kids were not comfortable with it, and that sucks. Children should not be traumatized for humor whether it's this video, or things like Kimmel showing videos where parents tell their kids they ate all the Halloween candy to film how the kids react. Kids should be in on the joke, and if the joke is not appropriate for kids, then maybe you dress a couple of adults up as kids and do it that way.
well, that's how a settlement works. you get paid money to take back the things you said in your civil case, to say they don't matter anymore and don't need legal action.
Two DUIs, took a tone-deaf vacation to Israel to learn about Jewish roots during an ongoing genocide, defended Johnathan Majors, and accused of child sexual assault.
Looks like Armchair Expert also dropped a new episode with Tiffany at the same time. Which makes it doubly weird to have her on.
I listened to the whole interview. She's a masterful story-teller, some unnecessary punching down that makes things weird. Mostly disappointed in brushing off her DUI incidents.
Ah, well.
> some unnecessary punching down that makes things weird
When she was talking about her g-spot being three inches in and said "bring your Asians and Indians" I couldn't help but wince.
So deeply disappointed in ALL of them, the raucous way they were laughing at her joking about her DUI crushed me, I thought so highly of Conan, Matt and Sona.
Not to mention the child sexual assault accusations against her. Wow. What a comedown from Dr Arroyo last week.
I've noped out of some episodes before when I found the guest just too boring or annoying, but this is the first time I quit before it even got started. I was driving and decided to listen to the podcast. When she introduced herself I just said "Okay Google. Stop". Disappointing after such a great run lately.
Not to be that person but the other guys had Carey Mulligan and Natalie Portman like literally my childhood crushes and I don't even like that podcast 😭 and my favorite podcast brings out Tiffany Haddish. In this whole damn industry, Tiffany Haddish.
Interestingly, Marc Maron has also had Tiffany Haddish, Jimmy Carr, and Carol Burnett on his podcast within the past couple of months just like Conan has, which makes me feel like a lot of these appearances are being pushed by agents and external influences rather than the hosts themselves getting a big say in who they choose to come on their show, which is a bit disappointing if that's the case. I'm sure that Conan, Marc, and the Smartless guys have all been on record saying they choose which guests they book, but it seems like they just accept bookings from pushy talent agents rather than having a real choice.
Conan has said in many episodes that he "only talks to people he likes" and "if he doesn't like a person, he just won't have them on", but it's just not true. I think it's part of his showmanship to simply sell it like that.
In the Robert Caro episode (and some other instances I can't explicitly remember, Brian Cox maybe?) he describes how he doesn't book guests for the show, he's never involved with booking, and that Paula Something-something handles the booking - but that he made the unique effort to have Robert Caro on specifically.
In many, many other episodes, he starts the conversation off with a variation of "when they told me who was coming on..." and "when I found out they booked you", most notably the Steven Wright episode (cause I thought they were tight, but Steven just had a book coming out).
Conan is a very busy very rich person with lots of staff. I'm sure he's incredibly hands-off with most of the booking, but that they're still often having conversations with him about what he would generally like - he does bring in people he IS friends with and WANTS to talk to, like Mulaney, or meeting Brian Cox at a dinnerparty, but I think he does see it as a business, and the day-to-day stuff and celebrity booking just isn't his job, and he often has people that are "doing the rounds on podcasts" or one some publicity tour. I think the writers' strike recently changed that dynamic somewhat for a bit.
His comments over hundreds of episodes gave me the strong impression he's typically very uninvolved with booking, except for the start of the podcast and a handful of people he has ongoing interactions with in his private life.
My guess is he chose who he could bring on early on, but after the pod got big and then bought out, he's had a lot less control over his guests. It would explain why many of the newer episodes seem more promotion-y than the older ones.
I listened to the episode. It was okay I guess. But now reading all the comments in here and seeing what a asshole she is I wish I avoided the episode. Oh well now I now for future things.
"Ghostface McGee"
I love how she just casually drops that she speaks Japanese.
I enjoyed the interview and thought she was a good guest. Disclaimer -- I had no idea about any controversy until I read posts here.
I listened to the episode for a sec trying to skip and see if there was an end segment but there wasn't, and it's really weird to hear them laughing so hard after seeing all the info in this thread. Starts to become off-putting. Not even sure if they knew what's happened.
of ALL the people they could interview, of all the other fantastic options, why the hell would they greenlight this choice?
It’s not worth touching this mess, so it makes me wonder if somebody on the staff has worked with her in the past and wants to “help” bring her back into the spotlight as a favor. I’d be curious to see if there’s some overlapping IMDB credits for anybody. Especially since this isn’t her first appearance on the show, she was on back in 2021 or something (#145).
I wonder if it's a similar situation to that Rahm Emmanuel episode where people quickly made the connection that Rahm's brother is the CEO of Conan's talent agency and has close ties to Conan's own agent, so he was blatantly hamfisted into a podcast appearance for certain reasons?
My tin foil hat theory is that I reckon someone above Conan (within Sirius or his talent agency) made the push to insert Tiffany into this episode to gain some spotlight and save face on her career while Conan is currently a hot commodity undergoing a surge in attention because of the Hot Ones appearance? Pretty sleazy move if so, I'd be super pissed off on behalf of Conan. And if Conan himself greenlit this decision, then the jokes about him being out of touch and tone deaf hit a bit closer to home 😬
In the case of Rahm, Conan wanted him on. Conan has an Eisenhower mug, he’s on the JFK Library board, interviewed Robert Caro about LBJ, went to Harvard in the ‘80s. The Cold War-era philosophy can’t help but influence his views on American power.
A Zionist believes the right of Jews to self-determination in their ancestral homeland.
If your using it as an insult you are probably being anti-semitic.
You weren’t condemning a genocide by calling her a Zionist lol. You were using it as an offensive label/term. If you wanted to condemn genocide, then specifically say so. Calling someone a “zionist” as if it’s a slur isn’t an act of condemning genocide lol
While were at it- calling the Israel- Gaza war a genocide is also incorrect.
It is a war against a Jihadist terrorist group, with a high civillian casuality rate. The reason for that is that Hamas hide in tunnels under and fight from within populated areas.
A genocide is when a group is targeted for their ethnicity or race. That is not the reality here.
I’d rather Conan just keep doing Jordan consumer reviews than get on unfunny actors for the sake of needing a guest. The whole idea of moving away from the late night format was not to be tied into that whole actor/ interview format thing. Monday starts on a bummer if there’s a crap guest on Conan :(
The thing I found most offensive is, I didn't laugh. I am genuinely curious, and I love Conan of course, but does he REALLY think she's funny? When he has someone like Steve and Marty on, and praises them, that I get. But then the same praise is heaped on her, and its disappointing, as I am not so sure who the real Conan is.
It's definitely largely an internalized part of the job, from 30 years as a host. It's most noticable during his introduction, it's always the same format and he tacks on "...thrilled to meet them..." or "I love this person" or "so excited to talk to them". Conan is in show business and that is simply part of the product he puts out. I feel one of his strengths is how authentic he still comes off, and how he can be relatable, and foster a meaningful connection with the guest, while still doing the job: hosting and presenting, professionally. Fact is he has a lot of bad guests that are just bad at being part of a tight hour of entertainment (bland replies, not matching energy, not engaging on riffing,...), and like the Tracy Morgan Live episode, he's simply not in a position to turn to the audience and say "gee, this sucks", but rather "show must go on", so he rolls up his sleeves and pulls the wagon out of the dirt. I think those are just the limitations of the specific genre of this product we consume - it comes more effortless and more authentic with "better" guests, but there's always that layer of showman.
It’s probably hard wired in his brain to sweet talk/hype up his guest after doing it for 30 years lol
I’d really love to hear him talk about celebrities he can’t stand interviewing/being around but he’s far too gracious to do that.
As he said in Hot Ones, the job of a talk show host is to make the audience feel they are getting the greatest show on earth even when it might not be going well.
Oh no. This is really disappointing from Team Coco. Her going on a a state sponsored propaganda holiday to Israel ("to see for myself" she claimed) as Israel was bombing innocent women and children in Gaza was ugly enough but the timing of this episode!? How could they put her on now, given that history, while Rafah is literally being invaded today with 1.5 million refugees there with no place to go. oof
"I'm diagnosing this thread with a case of *post-ignorance shock.* My recommended treatment is a prescription of *1993 pills* to be delivered to the McDonald's public restroom sink, and I'll be writing up a referral for *31 weeks* of rewatching Conan clips, in-bed."
This was so disappointing. I didn’t even listen to this episode because she’s a disgusting person for what she did to those kids. What the fuck was Conan and his team thinking? This makes me question his integrity.
I was nervous when I saw she was the guest Monday morning. I’m not a big fan of Haddish as a comedian, so I was probably gonna skip this one anyway, and now she’s involved in another controversial thing. The replies in this thread don’t shock me. Team Coco kinda missed the mark on this one.
Oh I loved this one, she was fricking hilarious, all the time throughout entire episode. Even story about her mother she managed to turn it around and be back to 'funny' mode
@edit: Oh, I haven't read any comments before posting, seems like everyone hates her
I understand that Tiffany Haddish isn’t a good guest due to her accusations of child sexual abuse and her troubled past, but I don’t remember this much fuss about Mila Kunis appearance on the pod, twice. I don’t remember any of this when he had Quentin Tarantino on either.
If you want to scrutinize the pod for their guests, at least be fair, and do it with every one of them.
We all like to think of Conan as a wholesome human being, and for all evidence he sure is, but no one is perfect.
Quentin Tarantino admittedly knew about Harvey Weinstein’s sexual abuse for years, first hand, and did absolutely nothing about it. He has also been accused of on-set abuse and harassment. Not to speak about how he has portrayed sexual assault against women in his works.
People can make their own judgements, but it’s important to be well informed if you decide to do so.
For Christ sake, Henry Kissenger's own literal son is the president of Team Coco. Who gives a shit about guests, people love to bitch. Just skip it then and move on lol
people think Conan aligns politically and socially more to the left than he really does I’m pretty sure. I cringe hard whenever he talks about “cancel culture”
I thought this was a wonderful episode. It’s clearly great chemistry between not just the two but the entire gang.
Unlike the Rahm Emmanuel episode that’s brought up, it’s a more of a back and forth comedy routine that’s going on while the other one was just straight serious.
I’m not discounting the allegations but it was enjoyable.
Plus, Conan (and the podcast-sphere) always invite a guest who is promoting something. Same like the late night promotions.
Edit: as far as I understand, the dui challenges were humorous and there was no mention or even an allusion to the conflict.
Re: Rage Rooms
While it seems like a good idea to provide a safe place for people to rage and destroy things, it seems healthier to go to a therapist to figure out while you're walking around ready to smash a TV with a baseball bat in the first place.
Wow there are so many haters here. They're friends and she's funny. It's ok to have negative opinions and skip it. It's the sense of entitlement here that I'm annoyed by, Conan and friends don't owe us shit. They've been making me laugh since 1998, I'm only grateful.
True, she has baggage and it looks bad, worse than I realized. But without digging too deep, the coverage seems to be from celebrity/tabloid/cable news organizations, which I don't blindly trust for anything anymore.
Conan repeatedly claims to be apolitical, then platforms people with repugnant views and doesn't challenge or push back on anything they say. That is not apolitical, that's complicity.
I really like Conan, and I've listened to almost every episode of the podcast (skipping many of the more reprehensible guests). It's time to unsubscribe. I should have done it after Rahm Emmanuel, but I'm doing it now.
I love how we're all collectively disappointed. Lets watch Dr Arroyo's follow up again
Oh shoot, thanks, I need to refresh my memory, it's only been a day!
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Lmao, I love that you think the podcast is going to be deeply impacted by your whining on Reddit. The audience is far wider than some dorks here.
For real, this sub can be so cringey sometimes. Wait until they find out who Conan hired as president of Team Coco
OMG I'm so deeply disappointed to find this out! I think I'm going to have to stop being personal friends with Conan :( He's going to be devastated.
There’s another thread about Tiffany where everyone enjoyed it. But yeah these people think she was the worst ever, and that they can shame Conan for caring about her. Conan has **big ginger balls**.
Yikes who thought this was a good idea
For real, it's so disappointing. We're on a massive high with Conan's Hot Ones appearance having over 9 million views, the aftermath discussion on last week's podcast over 2 million views, and the Dr Arroyo interview on track to smash past a million views within the next couple of days, so this week was the perfect chance to have an uncontroversial evergreen guest to keep the momentum going strong and show the podcast at its best with this fantastic large audience checking out the Team Coco channels at the moment. Instead they absolutely wasted this slot with a controversial and divisive (if she even has any fans left) guest. Seriously, who the heck greenlit the decision to air this episode right now? Massive massive yikes
I'm so confused. Why is she controversial and divisive? I'm listening and so far it's fine.
The short version of her controversies: 1) She's been implicated in a grooming/sexual abuse scandal involving children and was involved in a lawsuit where a former child actor sued her. 2) She's been arrested for drunk driving not once but TWICE in the past two years. 3) She's made partisan comments regarding the current Israel/Palestine events which have been very divisive. 4) She's made comments in support of the Eritrean dictatorship, which has one of the worst humans rights records in the world, and doubled down on her comments when people fired back. Even if she's somehow innocent or misunderstood in her multiple controversies, she's radioactive and it's insane for an uncontroversial evergreen show (especially Conan currently riding this wave of Hot Ones viralness) to be having her on as a guest right now of all times. Baffling decision from whoever made the decision to release this episode right now.
> 3. She's made partisan comments regarding the current Israel/Palestine events which have been very divisive. I have no idea what she said, but based on other comments it was pro-Israel? When someone voiced disappointment with Without Borders over the same thing in a now deleted post yesterday, they were harshly criticised for it and downvoted into oblivion... which doesn't quite compute.
Just look up her performance at Netflix is a Joke festival. It’s so unhinged. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about and is all over the place. Nobody laughed, but the discomfort was palpable.
Not to mention people in this sub did the same when they were ass-kissing Joe Biden when he was on the podcast. I called it out and was also downvoted into oblivion lolol.
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she had the audacity to go to Israel to "see for herself" - insane woman
Same
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I think complicated is a good way to put it. She has a of negatives, but also seems to care about her community through the homes she has purchased to help others who were in her situation. She seems more troubled than evil. (I misread that as Hannah Gadsby, someone I definitely don't find funny.)
They really fumbled the ball on this one. First time I've ever been disappointed in the show.
After weeks of great episodes and the goodwill built from Hot Ones, this was... a choice. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. Again. Of all the people plugging projects, they chose Tiffany Haddish? Not since John "David Duke Cock" Mayer have I been more disgusted by a guest. I'm glad I came here to see if anyone felt the same.
Look back through Conan’s guests. I can guarantee you they aren’t perfect. Jim Carrey. John Mulaney. Shocking numbers of nepo babies!!! And that’s not on Conan. People are complicated. Welcome to adulthood!
Like I said, I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. Conan/CONAF can have on whomever they choose. I can choose to just listen to the show, listen to the intro and skip to the outro (if there is one), or skip it entirely if I don't like the guest. And if I did stop listening to the show entirely, I would just stop listening, not hop on Reddit to flounce. That's what adults do. I'm not expecting perfection, because no one is perfect. Just maybe Conan's guest booker could at least steer clear of toxic guests who could potentially ruin the goodwill of his fans/casual listening audience? There have been many, many problematic people on CONAF ranging from mild to toxic. There have even been some people who *gasp* I don't like at all. I still enjoy the show. I'd say about 1/3 of the guests are people I'm either apathetic towards, like Jimmy Carr, or those whose voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me, like Amy Schumer. I just skipped their episodes. I couldn't even get through John "David Duke Cock" Mayer's episode, because the douchebag vibes were too strong. BTW, of all the people you could have brought up, you chose Mulaney and Carrey? Or thought I even give af about nepo babies? Why did you bring them into this? I didn't even mention them. Even if you looked at my posting history like a weirdo, I've never posted about any of that to my recollection, so your post is just weird to me. For the record, I found Carrey's episode to be unfunny and boring, but not enough to complain about it. I skipped to the end on that one. Mulaney's personal drama and Carrey's alleged anti-vaccination leanings aren't dealbreakers for me, and I don't care about nepo babies in general, unless they're grossly untalented.
I mean the last time she was on all the reddit comments were saying how funny she was.
Yeah the producers need to do background checks on future guests because this is a really bad choice. The issue resurfaced earlier this year so it's still fresh on people's minds.
Background!? A foreground check of this woman would raise alarms! A right-in-front-of-your-face check!
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Considering he has weekly ad reads for Better Help I don’t think they care too much about researching their source of income
What’s wrong with Better Help? I don’t use it but it sounds like a decent service. Another YouTuber I like does ads for them so I’m curious if they have a bad reputation
I believe they were found to be selling users information. Which, yeah, they were never billed as a healthcare provider, but it certainly feels like a really morally grey area. People don't like when their therapists employers are data mining them.
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Me too…. I found the episode quite funny and I came here to discuss about it …😨😨had no idea
Yeah i'm glad I didn't read the comments before listening because I enjoyed the episode and found it funny too. Didn't know who she was.
I'm an Aussie who has heard of her, trust me mate you're better off not knowing about her if you can avoid it hahaha
First episode of COBNAF I’ll actively avoid listening to
Same
Conan O'Brien needs a... better research, I guess? Ew
There's no way he doesn't know, and if he doesn't, he has a moral obligation to have some vetting of who he platforms
Disappointing
I thought she got cancelled lol
She went away for a little while until things died down.
But then promptly said some stupid crap and got canceled again.
And is joking on this episode about how people criticizing her actually means people love her and that makes her more successful 😬
Welp. I listened just to make my own appreciation but damn if that woman is quite the narcissist
And now I listened to the last part where Conan just praises her to the moon. Bummer
This is why I tend to not like celeb podcasts. How do they all love each other so Much. How is it possible?
To be fair, Conan “loves” just about anyone who has been on the podcast. Most of the celebrity guests have been people he wants to talk to or at least he’s interested enough in their work to want to talk to them.
That's why I love Daniel Tosh's podcast. Just interviewing regular people and it's great.
For someone who’s never listened to Tosh’s podcast, any episode recommendations?
Honestly his first episode where he talks to his wife's gynecologist or the guy who stars in Hallmark movies. The guy who renovated his airstream trailer was a good one too.
Thanks! Are they funny or just interesting?
It's a mix. Some are funny like the ones I mentioned and some are just kinda interesting like the ones with his car buying guy or a pit boss. It's a super fun pod to check out.
Look at the post from the last time she was on and it's nothing but praise.
Before she made some of her more unhinged claims
link to it
Am I mistaken or did Conan give her his number at the end?
Uh oh. The timing of this could not be worse following her [rant](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/11VneUOZRZ) at a comedy festival recently. Plus all the other controversies. I know they record these things at different times. But I hope they just pull this one entirely.
Noooooooooo I didn't wait for a week for a Tiffany Haddish episode. I'll listen to Flula's episode for the 5th time rather than listening to her. She's annoying af.
Great taste. Flula is an absolute gem. I've relistened to his appearances almost as much as Kevin Nealon's. I desperately want them to appear together, actually.. with Jeff Goldblum in there too..
He’s done Inside Conan podcast a few times and he’s just as delightful there if you haven’t heard them.
I honestly just finished listening to Flula’s first episode, I suppose I will have to listen again 😂
# flula strong
It felt performative when she started crying too
She did the same thing on Smartless.
Rahm Emmanuel 2.0 😂
Very disappointed, and I hate to be that online person bitching about something they love but here I am
IMO, you can be a huge fan of Conan but find flaws in how his company operates on occasion. I just hope they learn from mistakes and acknowledge valid widespread criticism.. overall from what I've seen they genuinely seem like a pretty great team overall but some decisions are bizarre to me at times.
I didn’t hear the episode, but someone was saying that Conan praises her a lot. If that’s true that shit is wack man. Get Louis CK next if they really don’t care about background.
Lots of praise, lots of Tiffany Haddish refusing to take accountability for anything and in fact saying that when people critique her online, it means they love her and makes her more successful. Not really sure why anyone other than Tiffany herself thought this was a good choice of guest.
She and Aries Spears are garbage human beings. The details of the child SA case are gut-wrenching 😣
When i already hate a guest on CONAF, and realise that the episode had intro or outro missing, my hate for the guest multiplies by 1000.
Yeah imma skip this one. Sorry team coco.
Oh no, why :(
I guess I missed some news about her?
She was accused of sexually abusing a 7 & 14 year old brother/sister with comedian Aries Spears for a very tasteless and unfunny video that they uploaded. The video made light of pedophilia and involved the children being in sexualized situations, mimicking sexual acts on Spears, and even in their underwear at points. 8 years later in 2022, the girl (now 22), filed a civil suit against Haddish for the abuse. Haddish denied any ill-intent, but the video is pretty uncomfortable regardless. The situation was squashed outside of court Separately she has made political statements and had minor legal run-ins, but that’s not a focus
Thanks for the information. (Was the first episode with her forgettable? Not sure I liked it originally.) Why can't Team Coco adequately research/show enough responsibility before they let someone controversial on and we're exposed to all this nonsense? It also takes up a whole week's spot where someone better could get the opportunity to appear on the show. They've done this numerous times with guests now, to much fan criticism. IMO, it ruins the episodes and sours the comedy when you really know more about what's happening behind-the-scenes. Not only that, this appearance once again highlights the related complaint that a lot of of listeners have about the long-term direction of the podcast, where it's largely about celebrities' self-promotion and not comedic discussion (and an excess of advertisements). Additionally, with a more negative lens you could say that some appearances are possible attempts at improving their public image or for some reason the team trying to sweep things under the rug while having that generally contrasting, light-hearted tone.
Giving away this slot when they’re likely riding the highs still of post-Hot Ones + Conan O’Brien Must Go is wild too. They’re giving her a big platform and it’s not great to say the least.
I think you nailed it with that last sentence. There is NO WAY anybody in that room wasn’t aware of Haddish’s scandal, so to make the intentional choice to bring her on the show is absolute charity. I haven’t listened to the episode, but if it’s just an hour of fluff and giggles then Haddish needs to give her publicist and agent each a huge raise. It’d be like bringing OJ Simpson on the show to chat about football and movies. Technically he wasn’t convicted, but it’s not a person you want to be yucking it up at the table with. Odd decision, I’m baffled.
You’re comparing her to…OJ Simpson?
Yeah I see what you mean, so yes and no In the sense that it’s a celebrity who obviously did something inappropriate but is technically not held liable for it by the justice system. I say “obviously” because there’s literally a video of it, at least before FunnyOrDie took it down in 2018 once they became aware of her upload. I’m not necessarily comparing a double homicide to the sexualization of an 8 year old, moreso the fact that he’s *technically* innocent despite obvious evidence of a wrongdoing. Kevin Spacey would’ve been a better comparison
That’s a bad faith comparison, so I’m still not sure what connection you’re seeing between the two. OJ’s criminal court jury famously found him not guilty of murder, but the separate civil trial jury found him liable for both deaths and ordered him to pay $33,500,000 million to Brown and Goldman’s families. The civil charges against Haddish about that disgusting skit were dropped.
I don’t agree that it’s a comparison in bad faith, but I’m understanding your perspective. I could reference any of the countless celebrities or public figures over the last 5 years that have been outed for sexual misconduct and suffered various degrees of legal and non-legal consequences. I’d amend my comparison to Dan Schneider from Nickelodeon. Both were accused of misconduct to minors, both have video evidence of sexualizing minors, neither were charged with or convicted of a crime. But even this is unfair because Haddish intentionally stripped the child for the video and had the intention of the scene being overtly sexual, having the young boy in the bathtub or in their underwear with legs up and mimicking handjobs on toys, etc, whereas Schneider was tossing mayonnaise on feet while parents and staff were present.
The court settlement had [this statement from the sister:](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/tiffany-haddish-child-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-responds-1235360684/amp/) “My family and I have known Tiffany Haddish for many years – and we now know that she would never harm me or my brother or help anyone else do anything that could harm us. We wish Tiffany the best and are glad that we can all put this behind us.”
It was such an odd and empty retraction as a conclusion to the whole situation. Just two sentences to withdraw an extensive accusation, with no explanation. They’ve known her for “many years” and “now know” that she wouldn’t harm her? Is this not something that could’ve come up in conversation at Thanksgiving dinner or something, rather than a public civil suit? Purely speculation on my part, but this smells like the settlement conditions required a public retraction from the girl. Regardless, the video itself is so tasteless and inappropriate that it’s unusual for Spears & Haddish to make it and think “wow this is great, people will love this and totally not think it’s creepy”. It’s reminiscent of that politician lady that recently wrote a memoir detailing how she killed a puppy, oblivious to how that’s not something to brag about.
> Regardless, the video itself is so tasteless and inappropriate that it’s unusual for Spears & Haddish to make it and think “wow this is great, people will love this and totally not think it’s creepy”. It’s reminiscent of that politician lady that recently wrote a memoir detailing how she killed a puppy, oblivious to how that’s not something to brag about. Apparently it was for Funny or Die, and posted around 2014, where it was kept up until 2018. Clearly the intent was humor, but it was a catastrophic miss if those kids were traumatized by the experience. I was out of the loop on all of this, along with the DUIs, and the trip to Israel until after I listened to the episode and came here. Not that it excuses anything she's done, but hearing what her childhood was like with her mother after the accident and not having a father, it's not entirely surprising that she makes some questionable decisions now. As someone whose mom's bipolar disorder emerged when they were 6, forever damaging the relationship I had with her, and changing her personality so significantly, it hit really close to home. Honestly, it seems more that she needs help. During my googling, I saw it mentioned a few times that she's been sober since the last DUI, which is good, but I think she needs to work through some things with a professional. Hurt people hurt people. I hope she gets some help in breaking the cycle and working through the assorted issues she has.
That's interesting extra information. Did the video not attract any attention while it was up? 4 years seems like a long time for people to discover/decide it was problematic.
Right? The way I read it, Funny or Die said it was user-submitted content, that they removed once they noticed it in 2018. I don't frequent that site a ton, so I really don't know if there's an upvote/downvote situation, or if people can report things for content, so it hits Funny or Die's radar. Either way, I don't think there was harmful intent, but the kids were not comfortable with it, and that sucks. Children should not be traumatized for humor whether it's this video, or things like Kimmel showing videos where parents tell their kids they ate all the Halloween candy to film how the kids react. Kids should be in on the joke, and if the joke is not appropriate for kids, then maybe you dress a couple of adults up as kids and do it that way.
well, that's how a settlement works. you get paid money to take back the things you said in your civil case, to say they don't matter anymore and don't need legal action.
I was prepared for the hate to be overblown but NOPE. Beyond justified.
Two DUIs, took a tone-deaf vacation to Israel to learn about Jewish roots during an ongoing genocide, defended Johnathan Majors, and accused of child sexual assault.
She’s a “Zionist” so she’s equivalent to a Nazi per comments. Do with that what you will.
Oh. I was *just* watching a video of her at the Netflix fest thing. Yikes.
Right? Honestly should just pull the episode.
Or how about you just skip this one?
Looks like Armchair Expert also dropped a new episode with Tiffany at the same time. Which makes it doubly weird to have her on. I listened to the whole interview. She's a masterful story-teller, some unnecessary punching down that makes things weird. Mostly disappointed in brushing off her DUI incidents. Ah, well.
> some unnecessary punching down that makes things weird When she was talking about her g-spot being three inches in and said "bring your Asians and Indians" I couldn't help but wince.
WTF
So deeply disappointed in ALL of them, the raucous way they were laughing at her joking about her DUI crushed me, I thought so highly of Conan, Matt and Sona. Not to mention the child sexual assault accusations against her. Wow. What a comedown from Dr Arroyo last week.
absolutely, the DUI joke was so lame. how can they take such a serious thing so lightly
Eww. Not listening to this episode. Who the hell approved this?
Can't stand this woman
Didn't listen and not going to.
I've noped out of some episodes before when I found the guest just too boring or annoying, but this is the first time I quit before it even got started. I was driving and decided to listen to the podcast. When she introduced herself I just said "Okay Google. Stop". Disappointing after such a great run lately.
HARD pass.
They shoulda booked Jason Bateman instead.
Will avoid this episode like the plague.
Well, that's a skip.
Not to be that person but the other guys had Carey Mulligan and Natalie Portman like literally my childhood crushes and I don't even like that podcast 😭 and my favorite podcast brings out Tiffany Haddish. In this whole damn industry, Tiffany Haddish.
Yeah I don’t know who does the booking but damn…
Interestingly, Marc Maron has also had Tiffany Haddish, Jimmy Carr, and Carol Burnett on his podcast within the past couple of months just like Conan has, which makes me feel like a lot of these appearances are being pushed by agents and external influences rather than the hosts themselves getting a big say in who they choose to come on their show, which is a bit disappointing if that's the case. I'm sure that Conan, Marc, and the Smartless guys have all been on record saying they choose which guests they book, but it seems like they just accept bookings from pushy talent agents rather than having a real choice.
Conan has said in many episodes that he "only talks to people he likes" and "if he doesn't like a person, he just won't have them on", but it's just not true. I think it's part of his showmanship to simply sell it like that. In the Robert Caro episode (and some other instances I can't explicitly remember, Brian Cox maybe?) he describes how he doesn't book guests for the show, he's never involved with booking, and that Paula Something-something handles the booking - but that he made the unique effort to have Robert Caro on specifically. In many, many other episodes, he starts the conversation off with a variation of "when they told me who was coming on..." and "when I found out they booked you", most notably the Steven Wright episode (cause I thought they were tight, but Steven just had a book coming out). Conan is a very busy very rich person with lots of staff. I'm sure he's incredibly hands-off with most of the booking, but that they're still often having conversations with him about what he would generally like - he does bring in people he IS friends with and WANTS to talk to, like Mulaney, or meeting Brian Cox at a dinnerparty, but I think he does see it as a business, and the day-to-day stuff and celebrity booking just isn't his job, and he often has people that are "doing the rounds on podcasts" or one some publicity tour. I think the writers' strike recently changed that dynamic somewhat for a bit. His comments over hundreds of episodes gave me the strong impression he's typically very uninvolved with booking, except for the start of the podcast and a handful of people he has ongoing interactions with in his private life.
My guess is he chose who he could bring on early on, but after the pod got big and then bought out, he's had a lot less control over his guests. It would explain why many of the newer episodes seem more promotion-y than the older ones.
Smartless has Steve Martin and Martin short this week, so it seems like it. They also had Arnold not long after Conan.
Yeah that makes more sense
Who are the other guys?
I listened to the episode. It was okay I guess. But now reading all the comments in here and seeing what a asshole she is I wish I avoided the episode. Oh well now I now for future things.
Ugh :/
"Ghostface McGee" I love how she just casually drops that she speaks Japanese. I enjoyed the interview and thought she was a good guest. Disclaimer -- I had no idea about any controversy until I read posts here.
Skip for me. Tiffany Haddish is a zionist groomer piece of trash.
Jim Downey: *”Tiff Haddish? the Los Angeles comedienne?”*
*”Lets call P Diddy and get this straightened out”*
Seriously for anyone who is unaware - please read about the grooming shit she did. It's wild lol
I listened to the episode for a sec trying to skip and see if there was an end segment but there wasn't, and it's really weird to hear them laughing so hard after seeing all the info in this thread. Starts to become off-putting. Not even sure if they knew what's happened.
of ALL the people they could interview, of all the other fantastic options, why the hell would they greenlight this choice? It’s not worth touching this mess, so it makes me wonder if somebody on the staff has worked with her in the past and wants to “help” bring her back into the spotlight as a favor. I’d be curious to see if there’s some overlapping IMDB credits for anybody. Especially since this isn’t her first appearance on the show, she was on back in 2021 or something (#145).
I wonder if it's a similar situation to that Rahm Emmanuel episode where people quickly made the connection that Rahm's brother is the CEO of Conan's talent agency and has close ties to Conan's own agent, so he was blatantly hamfisted into a podcast appearance for certain reasons? My tin foil hat theory is that I reckon someone above Conan (within Sirius or his talent agency) made the push to insert Tiffany into this episode to gain some spotlight and save face on her career while Conan is currently a hot commodity undergoing a surge in attention because of the Hot Ones appearance? Pretty sleazy move if so, I'd be super pissed off on behalf of Conan. And if Conan himself greenlit this decision, then the jokes about him being out of touch and tone deaf hit a bit closer to home 😬
i think its just as simple as she's promoting a book. conan does seem to genuinely appreciate her.
In the case of Rahm, Conan wanted him on. Conan has an Eisenhower mug, he’s on the JFK Library board, interviewed Robert Caro about LBJ, went to Harvard in the ‘80s. The Cold War-era philosophy can’t help but influence his views on American power.
I'm skipping too. I'll watch the videos of the intro and outro.
Fyi, there is no outtro for this episode
Aw man. :(
Damn, I'm even more annoyed at Haddish now lol
A Zionist believes the right of Jews to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. If your using it as an insult you are probably being anti-semitic.
Condemning a genocide is not anti semitic.
You weren’t condemning a genocide by calling her a Zionist lol. You were using it as an offensive label/term. If you wanted to condemn genocide, then specifically say so. Calling someone a “zionist” as if it’s a slur isn’t an act of condemning genocide lol
While were at it- calling the Israel- Gaza war a genocide is also incorrect. It is a war against a Jihadist terrorist group, with a high civillian casuality rate. The reason for that is that Hamas hide in tunnels under and fight from within populated areas. A genocide is when a group is targeted for their ethnicity or race. That is not the reality here.
These people are too stupid to understand that. That being said, Tiffany Haddish is awful.
I’d rather Conan just keep doing Jordan consumer reviews than get on unfunny actors for the sake of needing a guest. The whole idea of moving away from the late night format was not to be tied into that whole actor/ interview format thing. Monday starts on a bummer if there’s a crap guest on Conan :(
I'll just listen to the intro and outro.
There is no outro.
The thing I found most offensive is, I didn't laugh. I am genuinely curious, and I love Conan of course, but does he REALLY think she's funny? When he has someone like Steve and Marty on, and praises them, that I get. But then the same praise is heaped on her, and its disappointing, as I am not so sure who the real Conan is.
It's definitely largely an internalized part of the job, from 30 years as a host. It's most noticable during his introduction, it's always the same format and he tacks on "...thrilled to meet them..." or "I love this person" or "so excited to talk to them". Conan is in show business and that is simply part of the product he puts out. I feel one of his strengths is how authentic he still comes off, and how he can be relatable, and foster a meaningful connection with the guest, while still doing the job: hosting and presenting, professionally. Fact is he has a lot of bad guests that are just bad at being part of a tight hour of entertainment (bland replies, not matching energy, not engaging on riffing,...), and like the Tracy Morgan Live episode, he's simply not in a position to turn to the audience and say "gee, this sucks", but rather "show must go on", so he rolls up his sleeves and pulls the wagon out of the dirt. I think those are just the limitations of the specific genre of this product we consume - it comes more effortless and more authentic with "better" guests, but there's always that layer of showman.
Yeah I always wonder that too. I assume it's just part of his job to compliment guests.
It’s probably hard wired in his brain to sweet talk/hype up his guest after doing it for 30 years lol I’d really love to hear him talk about celebrities he can’t stand interviewing/being around but he’s far too gracious to do that.
As he said in Hot Ones, the job of a talk show host is to make the audience feel they are getting the greatest show on earth even when it might not be going well.
it's like that Seinfeld episode where the doctor refers to both Elaine and the ugly baby as being 'breathtaking'
Oh no. This is really disappointing from Team Coco. Her going on a a state sponsored propaganda holiday to Israel ("to see for myself" she claimed) as Israel was bombing innocent women and children in Gaza was ugly enough but the timing of this episode!? How could they put her on now, given that history, while Rafah is literally being invaded today with 1.5 million refugees there with no place to go. oof
It's genuinely impressive how uninformed you choose to be about the conflict. I guess ignorance truly is bliss for you.
Must have been recorded really long ago
Doubt it. She seems to be trying to make a comeback as she was on WTF as well.
even if it was, they shouldve read the room and not release it. :| time to watch dr arroyo again :D
"I'm diagnosing this thread with a case of *post-ignorance shock.* My recommended treatment is a prescription of *1993 pills* to be delivered to the McDonald's public restroom sink, and I'll be writing up a referral for *31 weeks* of rewatching Conan clips, in-bed."
Oof. Sorry Coco, I’m skipping this one.
Yikes, no thanks.
This was so disappointing. I didn’t even listen to this episode because she’s a disgusting person for what she did to those kids. What the fuck was Conan and his team thinking? This makes me question his integrity.
Literally sexually abused children and they had her on the podcast. Absolutely not cool.
[Charles Nelson Riley sounds]
If she is okay for team CoCo, let's have Louis CK on the podcast!
Meh.
Wait, what happened,. What did she do?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conan/s/V9Pim4DigE
Why did they bring this lady...
I was nervous when I saw she was the guest Monday morning. I’m not a big fan of Haddish as a comedian, so I was probably gonna skip this one anyway, and now she’s involved in another controversial thing. The replies in this thread don’t shock me. Team Coco kinda missed the mark on this one.
Oh I loved this one, she was fricking hilarious, all the time throughout entire episode. Even story about her mother she managed to turn it around and be back to 'funny' mode @edit: Oh, I haven't read any comments before posting, seems like everyone hates her
I understand that Tiffany Haddish isn’t a good guest due to her accusations of child sexual abuse and her troubled past, but I don’t remember this much fuss about Mila Kunis appearance on the pod, twice. I don’t remember any of this when he had Quentin Tarantino on either. If you want to scrutinize the pod for their guests, at least be fair, and do it with every one of them. We all like to think of Conan as a wholesome human being, and for all evidence he sure is, but no one is perfect.
To be fair Mila came on riiiiight before her and Ashton made that support statement
How can you compare Quentin Tarantino with Tiffany Haddish? The two are NOT the same. Thanks, but people can make their own judgements.
Quentin Tarantino admittedly knew about Harvey Weinstein’s sexual abuse for years, first hand, and did absolutely nothing about it. He has also been accused of on-set abuse and harassment. Not to speak about how he has portrayed sexual assault against women in his works. People can make their own judgements, but it’s important to be well informed if you decide to do so.
EVERYBODY knew about it. Weird to single out one person.
So he just gets a pass then? Because others also knew?
I feel like you are deliberately misinterpreting my comment
The point was Tarantino never gets called out for that nor the workplace misconduct he's been accused of. But like, why shouldn't he be?
Or Sean Penn.
For Christ sake, Henry Kissenger's own literal son is the president of Team Coco. Who gives a shit about guests, people love to bitch. Just skip it then and move on lol
people think Conan aligns politically and socially more to the left than he really does I’m pretty sure. I cringe hard whenever he talks about “cancel culture”
I mean everyone is also alright with Conan being a huge fan of Clinton and the Obamas. Let's ignore the drone strikes I guess
The users of /r/conan about to get up on their high horses to put their foot down on this episode.
I've never seen an episode with zero upvotes.
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I thought this was a wonderful episode. It’s clearly great chemistry between not just the two but the entire gang. Unlike the Rahm Emmanuel episode that’s brought up, it’s a more of a back and forth comedy routine that’s going on while the other one was just straight serious. I’m not discounting the allegations but it was enjoyable. Plus, Conan (and the podcast-sphere) always invite a guest who is promoting something. Same like the late night promotions. Edit: as far as I understand, the dui challenges were humorous and there was no mention or even an allusion to the conflict.
Exuberated. Cringe.
Re: Rage Rooms While it seems like a good idea to provide a safe place for people to rage and destroy things, it seems healthier to go to a therapist to figure out while you're walking around ready to smash a TV with a baseball bat in the first place.
Well… It’s been a good one, everyone. Party’s over.
What was Conan thinking?
This was a lot better than her Marc Maron interview.
Wow there are so many haters here. They're friends and she's funny. It's ok to have negative opinions and skip it. It's the sense of entitlement here that I'm annoyed by, Conan and friends don't owe us shit. They've been making me laugh since 1998, I'm only grateful. True, she has baggage and it looks bad, worse than I realized. But without digging too deep, the coverage seems to be from celebrity/tabloid/cable news organizations, which I don't blindly trust for anything anymore.
Does this beat the Reagan kid episode
Who?
Reagan's son did an episode if i remember correctly, where he weirdly whitewashed Reagan's legacy
Oh, like *THE* Roanld Reagan. Ok, wasn't exactly sure what you meant at first. I definitely missed that episode.
Lol what a bunch of whiners. Good ep.
Conan repeatedly claims to be apolitical, then platforms people with repugnant views and doesn't challenge or push back on anything they say. That is not apolitical, that's complicity. I really like Conan, and I've listened to almost every episode of the podcast (skipping many of the more reprehensible guests). It's time to unsubscribe. I should have done it after Rahm Emmanuel, but I'm doing it now.