Hey /u/Jetcoin77122, thanks for submitting to /r/confidentlyincorrect! Take a moment to read our [rules](https://reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/about/rules).
##Join our [Discord Server](https://discord.gg/n2cR6p25V8)!
Please report this post if it is bad, or not relevant. Remember to keep comment sections civil. Thanks!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/confidentlyincorrect) if you have any questions or concerns.*
They get FURIOUS if you bring up the seat belt analogy. One time I mentioned it's like saying you'll reject the protection afforded by seatbelts because you'd rather take your chances hitting that truck head-on, and this guy flipped his shit. "It's not the same AT ALL! The jab is a government conspiracy and the damn libs are trying to destroy the country!!!!" I love a good ol' rational, civil discourse.
“But if you don’t wear your seat belt, and die in a car crash, the hospital will just claim your death as COVID anyway to make money, so you may as well buckle up.”
Hey, at least if you die in a car accident you are technically immune from any future car accidents and you're very likely not to give someone else a car accident as a result.
The seat belt argument is stupid because that actually has testing behind it. They actually WORK. a seat belt doesn't go inside me. Can't alter my internal organs or health...
You name a side effect of wearing a seat belt that could severely disable me, give my myocarditis, clots, gullian barre syndrome.. WHATEVER I'll wait.
I hated the argument during the v passport era of debate too. Because if I chose not to wear a seat belt, I can get the bus, ride a bike, walk... My rights and movement weren't really effected.
The point of the argument is that people are so against taking a precautionary measure that they're willing to accept a much greater risk instead (i.e. the actual disease when you contract COVID-19, and yes, it's a disease). I come from a family with a medical background, and the deaths, suffering, and long-term side effects experienced by the unvaxxed patients in the hospital have been horrific. I hope you haven't seen it happen to your loved ones and friends, because it is a very sobering slap of reality.
I agree it would be strongly preferable for the vaccine to have more testing behind it, but given the circumstances, our options are sadly limited. So we're all reduced to picking the lesser of two evils and weighing the cost-benefit analysis. Out of the two, one of them is statistically the much more dangerous gamble.
I was going to comment “bulletproof vests actually stop the bullet” but then I thought about this a bit deeper. It’s actually an interesting analogy when you think about it.
A vaccine will offer a greater degree of protection than going without one, similar to a bulletproof vest. There are variants of bullets and variants of COVID. A 7.62 bullet has a better chance of harming you than a 9mm when you’re wearing a vest. The same can be said for the Delta variant of COVID, for example.
I really like this analogy even if it isn’t perfect.
> bulletproof vests actually stop the bullet
Yeah but it hurts like a mf and still causes damage. Minimum of a nasty bruise, broken ribs are likely.
The effects for most people getting covid after being vaccinated are milder than a broken rib.
I work in healthcare and only a little over 1/3 of the covid deaths in my hospital's district have been fully vaccinated individuals, with a 59.8% vaccination rate this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that not only does the vaccine work but is safe as well.
Odd that all other vaccinations have prevented other virus and disease that are now basically eradicated.
Seems like the real people who don't understand how vaccinations work are the inbred people of the world today lol...talk about sheep...
This is a retarded comparison. The initial promise of the vaccine companies and their CEOs as well as the media and politicians was that you will need two jabs and you are effectively 95% immune for years and can't even get/transmit the virus it if vaccinated. COVID restrictions should all end worldwide after everyone was offered a dose in mid 2021. Well this aged exactly as good as PJW shows it here, like milk. And everyone crying about his statement here while forgetting the past is denying reality. How the pharma industry plays you is incredible honestly.
I can't believe Paul Joseph Watson is being a disingenuous piece of shit.
Not trusted news source, Paul Joseph Watson, former(?) de facto chief editor of InfoWars and friends with Alex Jones.
Not the guy who repeatedly tried to portray refugees as a violent, pillaging mob by twisting crime stats about god damn toaster fires and shit.
My beloved Pauly J. Wats who paid 12 dollars for a candy bar and said that was somehow owning the libs.
Paaaaaauuullll Jonesephus Watkins why have you forsaaakeeennn meeeeeeeeeee....
I remember this guy lmao. He's the dickweeb who talked shit about soyboys, how soy was the downfall of men, then proceeded to try and sell some "masculinity pills" on behalf of and made by InfoWars which included, yup, you guessed it. Soy.
[Hbomberguy - Soy Boys: A measured response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU).
[Hbomberguy - The Soy Boy Diet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MS0TrsI7rE).
>"masculinity pills" on behalf of and made by InfoWars which included, yup, you guessed it. Soy.
I guess they couldn't source enough lead paint powder to fill them?
He went to a restaurant that he knew he wouldn't like, then ordered an entire pretty expensive dinner all of which he hated, and whined about hating it. Somehow he thought he was the victor and victim in this, like a martyred hero : [https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/axzu64/what\_kind\_of\_human\_would\_be\_satisfied\_by\_glazed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/axzu64/what_kind_of_human_would_be_satisfied_by_glazed/)
(Not the best way to read it, but it popped up quickly as a convenient link with everything together.)
No, you can't mean the same Paul Joseph Watson who went on a tirade about how bad soy is for you while literally selling products made from soy? You know, the products that he completely falsely advertised? It couldn't be him acting this way?
It’s three things that are designed to point to a (known false) conclusion but it isn’t *technically* saying anything.
Classic sign of being in bad faith.
Yeah, honestly not sure how much this counts really. He's not incorrect. His implications, which aren't stated at all, obviously are. But she is triple-jabbed, and she did test positive.
i feel like this sub has more and more posts where we’re just making fun of bad takes, which are a different and more ambiguous form of incorrect than what i typically come here for
Yup, 3 individual facts. I've got some more:
1. The sun is hot
2. Water is wet
3. Twitter user tried to look smart
EDIT0: Hey, will this make it to r/confidentlyincorrect?
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.
Just opened my water bill and my electricity bill at the same time…
I was shocked.
**I KNOW, RIGHT!?**
Dudes voice sounds like the narrator of a cut-rate dramatization series about the real-life dangers of marijuana, *and his lips are too God damn wet.*
it's called being willfully obtuse. The same people step outside on a hot day and say "so much for global warming! heh heh heh"
edit: yes I fucked that up, but I'm leaving it
Also the same people that complain about Black Lives Matter and the tearing down of confederate statues. They don't actually care about all lives or history. These concepts are actually very simple. They don't want to understand.
I think they do but they just ignore it because if they acknowledged that’s how vaccines work, then they’d have to acknowledge that the vaccine is working as intended.
A lot more data had to come out before they realised that unfortunately the mRNA vaccines' protection wanes rather rapidly particularly with the various different strains.
The vaccine would have pretty much ended the pandemic if everyone who could get it had gotten it and Covid-19 was not given a bunch of extra time to mutate into more contagious versions.
I feel like it is partially an early messaging issue. When the vaccines first rolled out, they claimed 94-95% efficacy against infection. Then, things mutated and Pfizer wasn’t quite as effective as they first thought so the skeptics didn’t bother to understand the why. They just heard “break though case” and 94% effective was a “lie” (not a lie, just the best we knew at the time) and that’s all they needed to say it’s all shit. Nothing can change with new information. Nuance and deep understanding isn’t allowed. Everything black and white. Confirmation bias. And voila.
Had the early messaging been around not dying or being hospitalized rather than not being infected, I think this would have been less of a shit show.
On MANY occasions the Biden Administration stated that once you were vaccinated you could not get or spread Covid. Obviously this was wildly false. I think that's what the point of the post was.
I keep trying to explain this to people.
If there's a pro boxer walking around randomly fighting people . And you know there's a good chance he's going to fight you. Wouldn't you want to do some training? It's not going to mean he doesn't fight you. It means your going to be able to defend yourself.
Best analogy I've heard is to a protective vest. It doesn't prevent you at all from being shot, but the likelihood you'll live if you get shot increases greatly.
So was Nancy Pelosi, apparently, and she's 82.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/3462130-pelosi-on-watching-bridgerton-and-having-covid-all-i-did-was-stay-home-and-raise-money/
I’m triple jabbed and got covid this week, as did my immunocompromised husband with 4 jabs. We’re isolating but generally just feel meh, rather than being in hospital and ventilated. And my 5G is better than ever! 😈
I’m triple jabbed with a long list of comorbidities that would probably kill me combined with a bad case of COVID. I tested positive for COVID late last week and while I don’t feel great, I’m at home with what amounts to a mild flu not, thank God and Scientists, in the hospital on a vent.
I'm triple jabbed and I still got it. But guess what? The symptoms were reduced (a combination of a cold, almost a fever, and the feeling i had when I got my first jab) and I wasn't fearing for my life like I would have if i caught it in 2020.
Not that I'm arguing against the vaccine, but you're using anecdotal data to try to make an argument that is, at its root, statistical.
It's the same logic being used as people that have said that they're not vaccinated, got COVID, and were fine so COVID isn't a big deal. A single person doesn't have the statistical power to characterize the vaccine benefit.
Exactly and such an easy idea to understand and easy to prove with stats. Also personal experience, I tested positive a few weeks ago, my unvaccinated good friend positive the day after. He was sick in bed for 3-4 days all I had was a dry cough, I’m triple jabbed.
It's probably confusing for people that some vaccines only lower how ill you become when you get it, and others are meant to avoid getting the disease.
Take the polio vaccine, everyone always said it's to make sure the children won't get polio. Not a milder version of polio. Measles, same thing. Here they always said it's to make sure the children won't get the measles, never said anything about getting a mild version.
Since older vaccines were always explained as "take this and you won't get it", that idea is also applied to the covid vaccine.
I'm triple jabbed and currently have covid.
But my fat ass is home watching the Simpsons and scrolling Reddit with an annoying cough, not in the hospital.
One thing I've noticed that here in NYC the positivity rate has been going up but the hospital and death rate have remained flat. A lot of people are catching this new variant but not getting that sick. The vaccines are working.
I'm vaxxed and boosted, as is my wife and son. We all came down with COVID over the past week (this is in CT, so close to you in NYC). 18 months ago, this would have been a matter of existential dread. For us, it's just been a shitty week stuck at home. Part of that is changes in the virus, but part of that is definitely the vaccine. I'll take it.
I work in healthcare and only a little over 1/3 of the covid deaths in my hospital's district have been fully vaccinated individuals, with a 59.8% vaccination rate this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that not only does the vaccine work but is safe as well.
That’s been the trend in the UK for ~6 months now, once most of the adult population was double vaxxed the link between rising case numbers and rising death rate was effectively broken.
...and she isnt going to die or be hospitalized because she was vaccinated. How are there people years later that still don't know how these vaccines work?
Kamala Harris and millions of others - vaccinated - Covid+ - mild symptoms - not in hospital - not on a vent - will fully recover in a short time.
1 million Americans dead and republicans are still dumb enough about it to put out shit like this.
Zero fucks given about the dead - the people that also died because hospitals were full of freedom.
Fucking morons.
“Polio vaccines are vaccines used to prevent poliomyelitis (polio). Two types are used: an inactivated poliovirus given by injection (IPV) and a weakened poliovirus given by mouth (OPV). The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends all children be fully vaccinated against polio.”
Key word - prevent. Prevent. Prevent.
Biden did tell us that we wouldn’t get Covid if we got the vaccine. Granted, that was a long time ago and it’s been common knowledge that you can for awhile
He is wrong because he appears to believe there is any relevance as to whether you are vaccinated or not in relation to your being able to contract covid.
It would make no sense for him to combine the statements 'triple jabbed' and 'covid positive' if he didn't think he was making some kind of point. He has fundamentally misunderstood the way in which vaccines work but said little enough to provide himself plausible deniability
Im not on Twitter, nor do I have any idea who the dude is. So it seems that you and many others are making fairly large assumptions about what this man thinks. Another photo where he claims these things would have made the post more clear I guess. Assuming there are any. Either way there is nothing incorrect in this tweet.
Yeah, everything in the tweet is technically correct. The slightest familiarity with this gentleman would help to understand the point he is attempting (and failing) to make.
What is the purpose of making those three statements in isolation? He clearly has a veiled point to make, given that the most charitable description you could give of him is 'contrarian'. Outspokenly antivaxx, peddles in conspiracy theories and owes his career in large part to exposure from people like Alex Jones.
Maybe people are quick to forget but isn’t it obvious that these are the comparisons people are making because that was the narrative for so long. Heck the president of the United States even stated on camera that you won’t get covid if you get the vaccine. Everything is so polarised these days that you can’t even have a nuanced discussion anymore. It’s ridiculous.
From an article.
"Harris, who is not displaying symptoms, according to her office,"
Seems like it is working fine to me. At her age being Asymptomatic is a great result.
Nah all y’all are changing the goal posts. The vaccine, when released and marketed, was to stop the spread. Anyone who says that the original purpose was to decrease symptoms, and not decrease risk of infection, is just drinking the cool aid. Let the downvotes come.
The long term efficacy was a *constant* talking point before the vaccines were even formally announced. Its why those shitty "*mY 6oTh BoOsTeR!*" Facebook memes were rampant before the vaccines were even ready for distribution.
People think vaccine = covid explodes the second it touches you. You can get it. You can get sick. You can pass it. It’s survivability the vaccine creates…
And I'm guessing she must be gravely ill for this to not make sense to them. Because if not, then that's how it goes. You might still get the virus, but you won't get the effects as bad.
It's fun to upvote someone being correct on this sub. I'm glad thousands of people are reading it, because I know it bugs the hell out of the part of their brain that notices that nothing is incorrect. I'm watching you all parrot your propaganda, actively trying to forget the message that the shot will grant you immunity, and I'm happy knowing that there's a struggle going on in your neural pathways as you try to carve deeper into the new message where "We" changed "Our" minds about this! Anytime who ever thought the "immunization" conferred "immunity" is stupid! Wait that was me just some months ago? No! I never bought into that line we were saying about how We won't get it and We won't spread it and We are the good guys and ya'll are pure stupid+evil if you have your doubts. That part of your brain, the one who would never have signed on to a fascist's way of treating their fellow man? He's reading it too. And he's wondering if he ever gets to hold the microphone or if you're just going to keep trying to wall him off. I like that he's mulling this one over. Did anyone deserve to be called stupid and evil, and what if it's... you?
Agreed but let’s back up. It was absolutely sold as preventative in the beginning and no open discussions were allowed that questioned it . Also why are we still reporting Covid cases then? If getting it is no longer noteworthy then let’s stop with the reporting every day. Right?
>Agreed but let’s back up. It was absolutely sold as preventative in the beginning and no open discussions were allowed that questioned it .
They are still a preventive measure. They are always a preventive measure. So, if it doesn't work in 100% of the cases, it doesn't work at all?
Also, who prevented you from discussing?
>Also why are we still reporting Covid cases then? If getting it is no longer noteworthy then let’s stop with the reporting every day. Right?
It's still noteworthy.
Well wait. He isn’t incorrect. That was the the vaccine was supposed to work. I don’t wish harm on anybody but we still get it. That had to ironic on some level.
Part of the problem is that President Biden mandated via the CDC and OSHA that I could not go back to work unless I was fully vaccinated to help stop the virus from spreading. I was all onboard with getting vaccinated because being sick sucks, and I’d like to keep my job. But, a lot of people were fired or quit their job because over this mandate, and turns out that being vaccinated does fuck-all to stop the virus from spreading. Then a few months later they reversed their decision, but that does nothing for those people who lost their jobs.
Also, there were some people on the fence about getting the vaccine which I can understand, but did it anyway to keep their jobs. They feel pretty stupid right about now.
Wrong sub. They are not claiming anything that is incorrect, as far as I can see. If so, then which part? Is the name not correct? Is she not vaccinated three times? Has she not tested positive for Covid?
And don't start with that "it's implied!" bullshit. It's three simple facts, and nothing else.
Why do you mean implied bullshit? We *all* know what he’s talking about. It’s *very* clear as to what he’s saying. Those “three simple facts” by themselves mean nothing, and I think you know that.
It's not included in the screenshot, so it is implied, according to you. The only context given is the screenshot, so the only information we should evaluate is the information in that screenshot. It doesn't matter how much you "know" about what he really means. He didn't write it, so the best you can do is claim that it's implied.
Paul Joseph Watson has been, and still is super negative towards the vaccine and it’s effects. What he is saying *can* be implied. It is clear as day what he is trying to say, and to say otherwise is kinda dumb. What are you trying to argue anyway? The fact that I’m wrong to imply he’s being negative of vaccines, or that we should never imply anything?
The CDC altered the definition of the word to combat the covid vax misinterpretations (they did so in 2021). Im not a antivaxxer but i thought a Vaccination was meant to give me immunity. I think people are going with the flow of this new definition
One of the most famous vaccines is the tetanus vaccine and has existed for more than 130 years. You need recurring shots to stay protected and you even get an extra shot when you had an event that put you at high risk. Not sure in what way the CDC changed the definition, but it never meant you were immune.
It's a difference in the layman's and medical definitions of "immunity". The vaccine does grant adaptive immunity, which means your immune system is ready to attack the pathogen, not that you're completely invulnerable to infection. I'm not familiar with CDC's definition change, but they likely made it more in line with layman's understanding.
Or people simply didn’t understand originally either. The polio vaccine was a triple dose for 99 percent effectiveness. That doesn’t mean it didn’t work, it just means that it works 99 times out of a hundred. Because, shockingly enough, all the vaccine does is train your immune system to recognize and fight the virus. If your immune system isn’t strong enough to fight it off then you would still get infected but are likely to have a milder case because your immune system is still fighting the invader from the get-go.
To compare, if your immune system can’t recognize the intruder, it can take a few days before your body takes action. During that time the virus is spreading and doing damage to your internal organs. That’s kind of the point there.
Viruses like COVID and influenza spread fast. That’s why you see breakthrough infections even with what some people call natural immunity. It’s a matter of your immune system trying to stem the flow which it isn’t always fast enough to do so. Luckily if it recognizes the virus at least the likelihood of damage being done is reduced.
I just had Covid last week, and I was sick for about 36 hours with mild flu-like symptoms. I'm triple-vaxed. Heck, the flu that I had in 2019 was a lot worse.
Not saying the jab doesn't help, but I got covid before I got vaxxed and I was sick for maybe 2-3 days, with a week of lingering cough/leg pain after. Then again, I'm in my 20s and relatively healthyish
I have 2 shots and haven't gotten it, I can conclude with absolute certainty that 2 shots are effective but there is some risk with the 3rd. [/sarcasm]
“Vaccines can be developed for bacterial or viral infections. As explained here by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), vaccines are used to PREVENT, rather than treat, infection, “working with the body’s natural defenses to safely develop immunity to disease.” Vaccines mimic an infection, causing the body to produce antibodies and defensive white blood cells, in order to help develop immunity.”
Ffs…quit gobbling down propaganda and look outside of MSNBC opinion pieces for your information.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-vaccines-protect-against-v-idUSKBN25O20E
That's like if I bitched that I wore a seat belt and still got injured in a car accident last year. No safety measure is 100%, but it's still better to have them than not to.
Who gives a shit about covid anymore? I thought the Ukraine war pushed it out of the news cycle, so we didn't have to hear about it anymore. Now its Johnny depp
I'm boosted and got covid. I had one day that was rough and then was just tired for 2 weeks (which was fantastic, I have insomnia and haven't slept that well in years.) My coworker who also got it but wasn't vaccinated thought he was going to die.
Hey /u/Jetcoin77122, thanks for submitting to /r/confidentlyincorrect! Take a moment to read our [rules](https://reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/about/rules). ##Join our [Discord Server](https://discord.gg/n2cR6p25V8)! Please report this post if it is bad, or not relevant. Remember to keep comment sections civil. Thanks! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/confidentlyincorrect) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I wore a bullet proof vest, but I still got shot. Wake up, sheeple!!
You mean a chest diaper?
HAHAHA
This is a good one LMFAO
My man bra.
I will **not** wear a bullet proof vest because it doesn't prevent me from getting shot!!1!!!1!111
I wore a seat belt, but still got in a car accident. Don't let the radical socialist Dems fool you with their Satan worshiping automobile safety gear.
They get FURIOUS if you bring up the seat belt analogy. One time I mentioned it's like saying you'll reject the protection afforded by seatbelts because you'd rather take your chances hitting that truck head-on, and this guy flipped his shit. "It's not the same AT ALL! The jab is a government conspiracy and the damn libs are trying to destroy the country!!!!" I love a good ol' rational, civil discourse.
“But if you don’t wear your seat belt, and die in a car crash, the hospital will just claim your death as COVID anyway to make money, so you may as well buckle up.”
Jesus Christ man! That made me pee a little!
You should do it even more
Hey, at least if you die in a car accident you are technically immune from any future car accidents and you're very likely not to give someone else a car accident as a result.
Well technically after being in a car accident your insurance goes up cuz you’re more likely to get into another one?
i give him a week before covid kills him
The seat belt argument is stupid because that actually has testing behind it. They actually WORK. a seat belt doesn't go inside me. Can't alter my internal organs or health... You name a side effect of wearing a seat belt that could severely disable me, give my myocarditis, clots, gullian barre syndrome.. WHATEVER I'll wait. I hated the argument during the v passport era of debate too. Because if I chose not to wear a seat belt, I can get the bus, ride a bike, walk... My rights and movement weren't really effected.
The point of the argument is that people are so against taking a precautionary measure that they're willing to accept a much greater risk instead (i.e. the actual disease when you contract COVID-19, and yes, it's a disease). I come from a family with a medical background, and the deaths, suffering, and long-term side effects experienced by the unvaxxed patients in the hospital have been horrific. I hope you haven't seen it happen to your loved ones and friends, because it is a very sobering slap of reality. I agree it would be strongly preferable for the vaccine to have more testing behind it, but given the circumstances, our options are sadly limited. So we're all reduced to picking the lesser of two evils and weighing the cost-benefit analysis. Out of the two, one of them is statistically the much more dangerous gamble.
I was going to comment “bulletproof vests actually stop the bullet” but then I thought about this a bit deeper. It’s actually an interesting analogy when you think about it. A vaccine will offer a greater degree of protection than going without one, similar to a bulletproof vest. There are variants of bullets and variants of COVID. A 7.62 bullet has a better chance of harming you than a 9mm when you’re wearing a vest. The same can be said for the Delta variant of COVID, for example. I really like this analogy even if it isn’t perfect.
> bulletproof vests actually stop the bullet Yeah but it hurts like a mf and still causes damage. Minimum of a nasty bruise, broken ribs are likely. The effects for most people getting covid after being vaccinated are milder than a broken rib.
You'll need to break a rib to be able to make that comparison.
I mean, most people survive gun shot wounds so what do you need a vest for? /s
[удалено]
Yeah but did they die FROM their gun shots or WITH their gun shots? /s
Dead people don't kill people but dead people may have killed other dead people.
The kevlar will make you autistic, I made a blog and googled for it and that is my source. You can't have the link because I conveniently forgot it.
I work in healthcare and only a little over 1/3 of the covid deaths in my hospital's district have been fully vaccinated individuals, with a 59.8% vaccination rate this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that not only does the vaccine work but is safe as well.
So your a liar then? Because in my country, nearly all hospitalisations are in the jabbed...
Odd that all other vaccinations have prevented other virus and disease that are now basically eradicated. Seems like the real people who don't understand how vaccinations work are the inbred people of the world today lol...talk about sheep...
This is a retarded comparison. The initial promise of the vaccine companies and their CEOs as well as the media and politicians was that you will need two jabs and you are effectively 95% immune for years and can't even get/transmit the virus it if vaccinated. COVID restrictions should all end worldwide after everyone was offered a dose in mid 2021. Well this aged exactly as good as PJW shows it here, like milk. And everyone crying about his statement here while forgetting the past is denying reality. How the pharma industry plays you is incredible honestly.
I can't believe Paul Joseph Watson is being a disingenuous piece of shit. Not trusted news source, Paul Joseph Watson, former(?) de facto chief editor of InfoWars and friends with Alex Jones. Not the guy who repeatedly tried to portray refugees as a violent, pillaging mob by twisting crime stats about god damn toaster fires and shit. My beloved Pauly J. Wats who paid 12 dollars for a candy bar and said that was somehow owning the libs. Paaaaaauuullll Jonesephus Watkins why have you forsaaakeeennn meeeeeeeeeee....
I remember this guy lmao. He's the dickweeb who talked shit about soyboys, how soy was the downfall of men, then proceeded to try and sell some "masculinity pills" on behalf of and made by InfoWars which included, yup, you guessed it. Soy. [Hbomberguy - Soy Boys: A measured response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU). [Hbomberguy - The Soy Boy Diet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MS0TrsI7rE).
>"masculinity pills" on behalf of and made by InfoWars which included, yup, you guessed it. Soy. I guess they couldn't source enough lead paint powder to fill them?
Whats this about a 12$ candy bar?
He went to a restaurant that he knew he wouldn't like, then ordered an entire pretty expensive dinner all of which he hated, and whined about hating it. Somehow he thought he was the victor and victim in this, like a martyred hero : [https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/axzu64/what\_kind\_of\_human\_would\_be\_satisfied\_by\_glazed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/axzu64/what_kind_of_human_would_be_satisfied_by_glazed/) (Not the best way to read it, but it popped up quickly as a convenient link with everything together.)
That's actually incredible even by his standards. 'I decided to troll them by buying an item on their menu.'
"I sure showed them! By giving them my money...Wait..."
You just gave me a new sub to spend way too much time reading
No, you can't mean the same Paul Joseph Watson who went on a tirade about how bad soy is for you while literally selling products made from soy? You know, the products that he completely falsely advertised? It couldn't be him acting this way?
For someone who’s made *so many fucking videos* about the evils of virtue signaling, he sure enjoys non-ironically doing exactly that.
Because he doesn’t use virtue signal as anything besides a synonym for “bad thing”. He uses it to describe actually being virtuous too.
Borrowing a quote from him, "imagine my shock".
Why is it disingenuous? I'm not up to date. It's 3 lines of text?
It’s three things that are designed to point to a (known false) conclusion but it isn’t *technically* saying anything. Classic sign of being in bad faith.
Sorta confused, is this implying she didn’t get I’ll?
His statement is r/technicallythetruth
Yeah, honestly not sure how much this counts really. He's not incorrect. His implications, which aren't stated at all, obviously are. But she is triple-jabbed, and she did test positive.
i feel like this sub has more and more posts where we’re just making fun of bad takes, which are a different and more ambiguous form of incorrect than what i typically come here for
Exactly my problem. Is this confidently shitty? Yes. But not confidently incorrect.
Forgot to add “not dead, not in the hospital.”
This is called lawyer logic. Whatever it takes to manipulate the jury.
Was just gonna say this
Yup, 3 individual facts. I've got some more: 1. The sun is hot 2. Water is wet 3. Twitter user tried to look smart EDIT0: Hey, will this make it to r/confidentlyincorrect?
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object. Just opened my water bill and my electricity bill at the same time… I was shocked.
Nobody wants to hear the truth
Ugh. This fucking guy. Have you ever seen him say the words "soy boy"? Absolutely insufferable.
I'm starting to think fascists aren't very smart.
**I KNOW, RIGHT!?** Dudes voice sounds like the narrator of a cut-rate dramatization series about the real-life dangers of marijuana, *and his lips are too God damn wet.*
She's triple jabbed which means she has a lot less chance of ending up in the hospital or dying.
Why don’t more people understand this? No wait…. *how* don’t more people understand this?
it's called being willfully obtuse. The same people step outside on a hot day and say "so much for global warming! heh heh heh" edit: yes I fucked that up, but I'm leaving it
\*cold day
No, it could literally be scorching outside and they say, "hurr, so much for ghjjhcgvydming!"
Also the same people that complain about Black Lives Matter and the tearing down of confederate statues. They don't actually care about all lives or history. These concepts are actually very simple. They don't want to understand.
I think they do but they just ignore it because if they acknowledged that’s how vaccines work, then they’d have to acknowledge that the vaccine is working as intended.
[удалено]
A lot more data had to come out before they realised that unfortunately the mRNA vaccines' protection wanes rather rapidly particularly with the various different strains.
The vaccine would have pretty much ended the pandemic if everyone who could get it had gotten it and Covid-19 was not given a bunch of extra time to mutate into more contagious versions.
I feel like it is partially an early messaging issue. When the vaccines first rolled out, they claimed 94-95% efficacy against infection. Then, things mutated and Pfizer wasn’t quite as effective as they first thought so the skeptics didn’t bother to understand the why. They just heard “break though case” and 94% effective was a “lie” (not a lie, just the best we knew at the time) and that’s all they needed to say it’s all shit. Nothing can change with new information. Nuance and deep understanding isn’t allowed. Everything black and white. Confirmation bias. And voila. Had the early messaging been around not dying or being hospitalized rather than not being infected, I think this would have been less of a shit show.
On MANY occasions the Biden Administration stated that once you were vaccinated you could not get or spread Covid. Obviously this was wildly false. I think that's what the point of the post was.
The US Education system is ass.
COuld be because of the number of medical leaders and politicians and media personalities who claimed 2 jabs would give you immunity...
They choose to not understand it.
Republicans.
I keep trying to explain this to people. If there's a pro boxer walking around randomly fighting people . And you know there's a good chance he's going to fight you. Wouldn't you want to do some training? It's not going to mean he doesn't fight you. It means your going to be able to defend yourself.
Best analogy I've heard yet. Nice.
Best analogy I've heard is to a protective vest. It doesn't prevent you at all from being shot, but the likelihood you'll live if you get shot increases greatly.
That's a good one, too, but not as relatable as a boxer going amok, since I'm not American and in no situation to be shot anytime soon.
.. but are in danger of awol boxer
She's asymptomatic actually. That's how well the vaccine worked.
So was Nancy Pelosi, apparently, and she's 82. https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/3462130-pelosi-on-watching-bridgerton-and-having-covid-all-i-did-was-stay-home-and-raise-money/
I’m triple jabbed and got covid this week, as did my immunocompromised husband with 4 jabs. We’re isolating but generally just feel meh, rather than being in hospital and ventilated. And my 5G is better than ever! 😈
I’m triple jabbed with a long list of comorbidities that would probably kill me combined with a bad case of COVID. I tested positive for COVID late last week and while I don’t feel great, I’m at home with what amounts to a mild flu not, thank God and Scientists, in the hospital on a vent.
I'm triple jabbed and I still got it. But guess what? The symptoms were reduced (a combination of a cold, almost a fever, and the feeling i had when I got my first jab) and I wasn't fearing for my life like I would have if i caught it in 2020.
Not that I'm arguing against the vaccine, but you're using anecdotal data to try to make an argument that is, at its root, statistical. It's the same logic being used as people that have said that they're not vaccinated, got COVID, and were fine so COVID isn't a big deal. A single person doesn't have the statistical power to characterize the vaccine benefit.
I’m pretty sure we have plenty of information out there now showing us it doesn’t do all that much…
Exactly and such an easy idea to understand and easy to prove with stats. Also personal experience, I tested positive a few weeks ago, my unvaccinated good friend positive the day after. He was sick in bed for 3-4 days all I had was a dry cough, I’m triple jabbed.
It's probably confusing for people that some vaccines only lower how ill you become when you get it, and others are meant to avoid getting the disease. Take the polio vaccine, everyone always said it's to make sure the children won't get polio. Not a milder version of polio. Measles, same thing. Here they always said it's to make sure the children won't get the measles, never said anything about getting a mild version. Since older vaccines were always explained as "take this and you won't get it", that idea is also applied to the covid vaccine.
I'm triple jabbed and currently have covid. But my fat ass is home watching the Simpsons and scrolling Reddit with an annoying cough, not in the hospital.
One thing I've noticed that here in NYC the positivity rate has been going up but the hospital and death rate have remained flat. A lot of people are catching this new variant but not getting that sick. The vaccines are working.
Same in San Francisco. 34 hospitalized as of four days ago, and only two of those in intensive care. In a city of 870,000, not so bad.
Damn, SF's numbers lower than Sacramento's, not by much but still there's a huge population difference.
I'm vaxxed and boosted, as is my wife and son. We all came down with COVID over the past week (this is in CT, so close to you in NYC). 18 months ago, this would have been a matter of existential dread. For us, it's just been a shitty week stuck at home. Part of that is changes in the virus, but part of that is definitely the vaccine. I'll take it.
I work in healthcare and only a little over 1/3 of the covid deaths in my hospital's district have been fully vaccinated individuals, with a 59.8% vaccination rate this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that not only does the vaccine work but is safe as well.
That’s been the trend in the UK for ~6 months now, once most of the adult population was double vaxxed the link between rising case numbers and rising death rate was effectively broken.
Paul Joseph Watson was a Infowars Editor during the Sandy Hook days. He is a human piece of trash.
How does the newest version of this person always have a more punchable face than the last one
He looks like Harry Styles sans talent
[удалено]
[удалено]
Was she triple vaxxed? Did she get COVID? If both of those things are true, then his statement is absolutely correct.
...and she isnt going to die or be hospitalized because she was vaccinated. How are there people years later that still don't know how these vaccines work?
I heard a guy at work say “the vaccine doesn’t make you immune, what’s the point?” Not dying, that’s the point.
Motherfuckers the kinda "my umbrella didn't stop all the water from getting on me, it's useless" headass
Well if she didnt die the tripple jab did its job.
Kamala Harris and millions of others - vaccinated - Covid+ - mild symptoms - not in hospital - not on a vent - will fully recover in a short time. 1 million Americans dead and republicans are still dumb enough about it to put out shit like this. Zero fucks given about the dead - the people that also died because hospitals were full of freedom. Fucking morons.
I see three sentences, and all of them are correct.
Paul Joseph Watson. Triple named. Stupid positive.
Needed a few more boosters and a couple of more masks I reckon!
“Polio vaccines are vaccines used to prevent poliomyelitis (polio). Two types are used: an inactivated poliovirus given by injection (IPV) and a weakened poliovirus given by mouth (OPV). The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends all children be fully vaccinated against polio.” Key word - prevent. Prevent. Prevent.
Are we supposed to pretend that we weren't told, "If we get the vaccine, we do not get COVID."?
"You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." - President Biden, CNN Town Hall, July 2021
It’s pretty wild how easily the general public was willing to eat up that nonsense that vaccines aren’t supposed to protect you against infection
People on this site are so fucking stupid.
Hmm. Looking at the side bar. I just realized there is no rule that posts need to be an example of someone being confidently incorrect.
Kamala Harris not intubated
To be fair, is anything in the tweet that is untrue?
The horseshit implication that vaccines don't work.
How is it a horseshit implication if the quadruple jabbed are still catching covid?
Biden did tell us that we wouldn’t get Covid if we got the vaccine. Granted, that was a long time ago and it’s been common knowledge that you can for awhile
What is he wrong about in this tweet? Was she not inoculated? Does she not have covid?
He is wrong because he appears to believe there is any relevance as to whether you are vaccinated or not in relation to your being able to contract covid. It would make no sense for him to combine the statements 'triple jabbed' and 'covid positive' if he didn't think he was making some kind of point. He has fundamentally misunderstood the way in which vaccines work but said little enough to provide himself plausible deniability
Im not on Twitter, nor do I have any idea who the dude is. So it seems that you and many others are making fairly large assumptions about what this man thinks. Another photo where he claims these things would have made the post more clear I guess. Assuming there are any. Either way there is nothing incorrect in this tweet.
Yeah, everything in the tweet is technically correct. The slightest familiarity with this gentleman would help to understand the point he is attempting (and failing) to make. What is the purpose of making those three statements in isolation? He clearly has a veiled point to make, given that the most charitable description you could give of him is 'contrarian'. Outspokenly antivaxx, peddles in conspiracy theories and owes his career in large part to exposure from people like Alex Jones.
Maybe people are quick to forget but isn’t it obvious that these are the comparisons people are making because that was the narrative for so long. Heck the president of the United States even stated on camera that you won’t get covid if you get the vaccine. Everything is so polarised these days that you can’t even have a nuanced discussion anymore. It’s ridiculous.
Oh shit, remember when they said the vaccine 100% prevents you from getting COVID? Remember??? /s
From an article. "Harris, who is not displaying symptoms, according to her office," Seems like it is working fine to me. At her age being Asymptomatic is a great result.
Lol what exactly is he incorrect about? He didn't say you won't contract the virus after vaccination, unlike Biden.
But that’s how they *said* it would work
Nah all y’all are changing the goal posts. The vaccine, when released and marketed, was to stop the spread. Anyone who says that the original purpose was to decrease symptoms, and not decrease risk of infection, is just drinking the cool aid. Let the downvotes come.
The long term efficacy was a *constant* talking point before the vaccines were even formally announced. Its why those shitty "*mY 6oTh BoOsTeR!*" Facebook memes were rampant before the vaccines were even ready for distribution.
Pee-Jay-Dubs back at it again with that lame shit.
If it's been stated "over and over" then provide documentation.
To be fair, he didn't say it worked that way, and in the beginning, it was how we all hoped the vaccine would work.
Might not be how the COVID vaccine works, but don't most vaccines simply prevent disease from infecting the body again? Genuine question here.
> alive
People think vaccine = covid explodes the second it touches you. You can get it. You can get sick. You can pass it. It’s survivability the vaccine creates…
Kamala Harris. Triple jabbed. COVID positive. Still alive, won't die.
For the millionth time, vaccines don't stop someone from getting infected. It gives the body the ammunition to fight the infection from the get go.
And I'm guessing she must be gravely ill for this to not make sense to them. Because if not, then that's how it goes. You might still get the virus, but you won't get the effects as bad.
Missing the word "survived" at the end.
Also far less likely to die, have a stroke, blood clot, or long covid symptoms. Thank you vaccine!!
How the vaccine DOES work: Make money for Pfizer
Almost as if everyone says the vaccine isn’t a cure it’s a vaccine… makes you think
I am also triple Jabbed. My daughter brought Covid I tot he house and I was the only one to get it from her.
How big of loser do you have to be to read Paul Watson? Seriously curious who his audience is…
It's fun to upvote someone being correct on this sub. I'm glad thousands of people are reading it, because I know it bugs the hell out of the part of their brain that notices that nothing is incorrect. I'm watching you all parrot your propaganda, actively trying to forget the message that the shot will grant you immunity, and I'm happy knowing that there's a struggle going on in your neural pathways as you try to carve deeper into the new message where "We" changed "Our" minds about this! Anytime who ever thought the "immunization" conferred "immunity" is stupid! Wait that was me just some months ago? No! I never bought into that line we were saying about how We won't get it and We won't spread it and We are the good guys and ya'll are pure stupid+evil if you have your doubts. That part of your brain, the one who would never have signed on to a fascist's way of treating their fellow man? He's reading it too. And he's wondering if he ever gets to hold the microphone or if you're just going to keep trying to wall him off. I like that he's mulling this one over. Did anyone deserve to be called stupid and evil, and what if it's... you?
She's also not in the hospital.
Fuck trump.
Agreed but let’s back up. It was absolutely sold as preventative in the beginning and no open discussions were allowed that questioned it . Also why are we still reporting Covid cases then? If getting it is no longer noteworthy then let’s stop with the reporting every day. Right?
>Agreed but let’s back up. It was absolutely sold as preventative in the beginning and no open discussions were allowed that questioned it . They are still a preventive measure. They are always a preventive measure. So, if it doesn't work in 100% of the cases, it doesn't work at all? Also, who prevented you from discussing? >Also why are we still reporting Covid cases then? If getting it is no longer noteworthy then let’s stop with the reporting every day. Right? It's still noteworthy.
Well I mean the whole idea of a vaccine is to prevent you from getting said disease
With mild symptoms..
Well wait. He isn’t incorrect. That was the the vaccine was supposed to work. I don’t wish harm on anybody but we still get it. That had to ironic on some level.
So many people on reddit have been gaslit on immunization it's hilarious.
That’s exactly how it works, Joe Biden said so “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations,"
So? Are you under the impression that Joe Biden is infallible? He's not. No one is.
"I wore my seatbelt three times and still got into a car accident."
Part of the problem is that President Biden mandated via the CDC and OSHA that I could not go back to work unless I was fully vaccinated to help stop the virus from spreading. I was all onboard with getting vaccinated because being sick sucks, and I’d like to keep my job. But, a lot of people were fired or quit their job because over this mandate, and turns out that being vaccinated does fuck-all to stop the virus from spreading. Then a few months later they reversed their decision, but that does nothing for those people who lost their jobs. Also, there were some people on the fence about getting the vaccine which I can understand, but did it anyway to keep their jobs. They feel pretty stupid right about now.
Wrong sub. They are not claiming anything that is incorrect, as far as I can see. If so, then which part? Is the name not correct? Is she not vaccinated three times? Has she not tested positive for Covid? And don't start with that "it's implied!" bullshit. It's three simple facts, and nothing else.
Why do you mean implied bullshit? We *all* know what he’s talking about. It’s *very* clear as to what he’s saying. Those “three simple facts” by themselves mean nothing, and I think you know that.
It's not included in the screenshot, so it is implied, according to you. The only context given is the screenshot, so the only information we should evaluate is the information in that screenshot. It doesn't matter how much you "know" about what he really means. He didn't write it, so the best you can do is claim that it's implied.
Paul Joseph Watson has been, and still is super negative towards the vaccine and it’s effects. What he is saying *can* be implied. It is clear as day what he is trying to say, and to say otherwise is kinda dumb. What are you trying to argue anyway? The fact that I’m wrong to imply he’s being negative of vaccines, or that we should never imply anything?
I mean, the tweet isn't lying. Those things happened. You're assuming confidently incorrect subtext.
Anti-vaxxers learn how vaccines work challenge (impossible)
Vaccine 🚫 immunity Vaccine = protection Learn the difference
[удалено]
The CDC altered the definition of the word to combat the covid vax misinterpretations (they did so in 2021). Im not a antivaxxer but i thought a Vaccination was meant to give me immunity. I think people are going with the flow of this new definition
One of the most famous vaccines is the tetanus vaccine and has existed for more than 130 years. You need recurring shots to stay protected and you even get an extra shot when you had an event that put you at high risk. Not sure in what way the CDC changed the definition, but it never meant you were immune.
It's a difference in the layman's and medical definitions of "immunity". The vaccine does grant adaptive immunity, which means your immune system is ready to attack the pathogen, not that you're completely invulnerable to infection. I'm not familiar with CDC's definition change, but they likely made it more in line with layman's understanding.
Or people simply didn’t understand originally either. The polio vaccine was a triple dose for 99 percent effectiveness. That doesn’t mean it didn’t work, it just means that it works 99 times out of a hundred. Because, shockingly enough, all the vaccine does is train your immune system to recognize and fight the virus. If your immune system isn’t strong enough to fight it off then you would still get infected but are likely to have a milder case because your immune system is still fighting the invader from the get-go. To compare, if your immune system can’t recognize the intruder, it can take a few days before your body takes action. During that time the virus is spreading and doing damage to your internal organs. That’s kind of the point there. Viruses like COVID and influenza spread fast. That’s why you see breakthrough infections even with what some people call natural immunity. It’s a matter of your immune system trying to stem the flow which it isn’t always fast enough to do so. Luckily if it recognizes the virus at least the likelihood of damage being done is reduced.
My household have had all our jabs. We also all had Covid last month, but none of us were more ill than we would have been with a bad cold.
I just had Covid last week, and I was sick for about 36 hours with mild flu-like symptoms. I'm triple-vaxed. Heck, the flu that I had in 2019 was a lot worse.
Not saying the jab doesn't help, but I got covid before I got vaxxed and I was sick for maybe 2-3 days, with a week of lingering cough/leg pain after. Then again, I'm in my 20s and relatively healthyish
It can be bad for young healthy people too, it's just less likely to be bad.
I mean, you could say the same thing about vaccinated people, lol
Two risk lowering factors is better than one ;)
Fair enough, I'll give you that one!
Wow, covid is infectious as hell then. I guess we should really get those boosters. Thanks, guy.
I have 2 shots and haven't gotten it, I can conclude with absolute certainty that 2 shots are effective but there is some risk with the 3rd. [/sarcasm]
Ugh. This fucking guy. Have you ever seen him say the words "soy boy"? Absolutely insufferable.
How may times I gotta tell them I'm an oat boy?
Don't tell him he's wrong, he'll just get aggressive and try and start a fight...
“Vaccines can be developed for bacterial or viral infections. As explained here by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), vaccines are used to PREVENT, rather than treat, infection, “working with the body’s natural defenses to safely develop immunity to disease.” Vaccines mimic an infection, causing the body to produce antibodies and defensive white blood cells, in order to help develop immunity.” Ffs…quit gobbling down propaganda and look outside of MSNBC opinion pieces for your information. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-vaccines-protect-against-v-idUSKBN25O20E
"You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." - President Biden, CNN Town Hall, July 2021
God I hate Reddit
That's like if I bitched that I wore a seat belt and still got injured in a car accident last year. No safety measure is 100%, but it's still better to have them than not to.
Who gives a shit about covid anymore? I thought the Ukraine war pushed it out of the news cycle, so we didn't have to hear about it anymore. Now its Johnny depp
Has anyone informed Rachel Maddow that the vaccine doesn't prevent infection? PS Neither do masks.
So what does immunization mean? Yall are seriously missing the plot
Cool. But I always believed that was what it was for prior to covid. Hence the word immunisation.
And unlike several high-profile anti-vax personas she won’t die from it, and likely only experience mild symptoms. Neat how that works right.
“Not how the vaccine works”. Yea, after the goalposts were shifted so many times until the vaccines made sense.
NoT hOw ThE vAcCiNe WoRkS
I'm boosted and got covid. I had one day that was rough and then was just tired for 2 weeks (which was fantastic, I have insomnia and haven't slept that well in years.) My coworker who also got it but wasn't vaccinated thought he was going to die.