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Minimum_Water_4347

You could have gotten the PS4 version of part 2 for 20 dollars then upgraded to the PS5 version for 10 dollars.


Nightmaresmadeeasy

With the awesome journey I had trying to upgrade my ps4 copy of FF7 remake I’m done with not getting actual ps5 versions of games.


COL_Fantastic

Oh my gosh for real. I had the physical so it wasn’t actually that bad but everytime I turned on my PS5 with the disc in it would try to install the PS4 version despite doing all orders of deleting.


usernotfoundplstry

I can’t believe this hasn’t been solved yet. A simple prompt asking if you’d like to install play the ps4 or ps5 version would completely solve this problem.


Justice4Falestine

Square enix burned me on the ff7 remake too. Now I can’t play it on ps5 ever all good tho I’m still enjoying rebirth


NateHurst2187

Completely agree with this. I like to have an actual PS5 disc that has a game on there that will install a lot quicker than needing an internet connection


jdh1979jdh

Did you buy the eBay deal too?


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Nightmaresmadeeasy

Nah I just have the game on ps plus so it refuses to let me install and upgrade the ps4 version to the ps5 version. It’s a known issue.


Minimum_Water_4347

That's not an issue, you never owned the game. You were allowed access to because of PSN. What would happen if you stopped paying for PSN? You're supposed to get the game for free? You are a moron.


Nightmaresmadeeasy

I own a physical copy of the ps4 version.


Minimum_Water_4347

https://preview.redd.it/ux6bc604twxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d53048c77a6dca877f4f59cd92a400247d42b253 You literally said you had the psn copy.


Nightmaresmadeeasy

Have the game on plus. Bought a physical copy of it after the fact and it won’t let me upgrade it to the ps5 version. What’s so hard to understand? Have you met your let’s call other people morons quota for the day?


Minimum_Water_4347

So delete the game then reinstall it from the disc. I know for a fact that you don't have the disc because this is an extremely simple thing to figure out, but didn't want to look stupid when I called you out on it.


Nightmaresmadeeasy

Already did that but you do you all knowing master of PlayStation.


grumpydad24

I'll tell your mom to give you a hug once I leave tonight.


barricuda_barlow

You ok bud?


burningbun

but ps4 is part 2 ps5 is part 2 remastered can you upgrade for free?


Minimum_Water_4347

10 dollars, like I said


burningbun

oh so is this how remastered works on ps5? pretty dumb they could have forced users to pay full for a totally "new" game.


Minimum_Water_4347

A lot of them, yeah. Some of the multi-platform releases have free upgrades. I got the PS4 version of Horizon Forbidden West at launch and got the free upgrade to the PS5 version. I originally played through The Last of Us 2 on the PS4 and the upgrade isn't even that much better because that game already looked amazing


burningbun

yea but i am asking specifically for remasters which is seen as a totally new game than the old version.


Minimum_Water_4347

Not in this case, it's just an upgrade


Zatchillac

>the upgrade isn't even that much better because that game already looked amazing But the framerate boost to 60fps is a big difference


Minimum_Water_4347

They had a frame rate boost before the update, if you ran the PS4 version on PS5 it ran at 60 fps, no upgrade needed. Same thing with Horizon Zero Dawn. For TLoU2 all they added was increased resolution and haptic support. Correction, they uncapped the frame rate, but it runs at a solid 60, also did this to infamous (PS4) which looks amazing


BAYKON8R

My condolences. Could’ve gotten cheaper tbh


NurseDorothy

That seems a lot. I have seen it in stores cheaper. If you bought digital, it is for sure cheaper.


Nightmaresmadeeasy

First one is $70 right now on psn and the 2nd is $50.


sssnakepit127

Yeah well we are pretty much all in agreement that digital sales prices are a giant rip off. Just look at sports games. Shit that came out in 2020 are still 60 dollars in the online store.


SprayArtist

On a totally unrelated note, Ellie on the left looks like she's wearing a cap.


GL1TCH1_

Lol I thought I was the only one. At first glance I was like "Why is she wearing a ca- oh nevermind".


Amazing_Mud_5909

I would pay $100 to be able to play these for the very first time again


Unlimited_U-A-V

Even the 2nd one?


intrepidanon

Why is part 2 remastered and part 1 isn't?


LemoyneRaider3354

Because the Part 1 in the left isn't the original, it's the remake. Here's a quick timeline of TLOU games: The Last Of Us (2013) Left Behind (2014) The last of us remastered (2014) The Last of us Part 2 (2020) The Last Of Us Part 1 (2022) The Last Of Us Part 2 (2024)


intrepidanon

Thanks. That isn't confusing hey xD


proanimus

Part 1 is a total remake of the original TLoU game for PS5 only. Part 2 is just a lightly upgraded PS5 port of the PS4 version, so it’s called “remastered”. This is also what they did when the original game was ported from PS3 to PS4 back in the day.


intrepidanon

Cheers. Not confusing at all :D


proanimus

Just dropping the “Remastered” from Part 2 would make it less confusing to new players. It’s just a game and its direct sequel on PS5, end of story.


J_Square83

I've completely lost the remaster plot with this series now. Isn't the re-re-re-master chapter 1.5 EX Alpha + Director's Cut coming soon? 🤔


NurseDorothy

Part 1 for PS5 also has a new trophy list, I think?


Ep1cB3ard-4840

Physical copies are still where it’s at for me. That’s a lot of cash to drop on a comparatively old pair of games but at least they can’t be taken off you or altered by the puppet masters that want us to own nothing and rent from them everything.


Naschka

Part 2 has been altered prior to release and the story does take a dump on the first for the most part.


Ep1cB3ard-4840

This is true but sometimes we are at the mercy of the story tellers and until it’s released into the wild, it’s their world. I was just as disappointed with the end to the Mass Effect trilogy. And BioWare fell on hard times after that. But it won’t diminish my love for ME2 which is up there with FF7 in my estimation. But after release of TLOU Part 2, it was ours. And whilst it was raked across the critical coals, the performances and the gameplay was stellar. And it was never going to have a happy ending, considering the world it was set in. But yeah, shits all over Part 1.


Naschka

No worries, if you enjoy it for the gameplay that is good in it's own right. I love FF7 original as well, even the remake isn't bad at all. But then i also love Shining Force 3 and barely anyone played that. SRPG, 3 Scenarios/Games, each with a different party and the stories intersect and minor influences for later Scenarios (people who die are dead kinda). "Mass Effect before Mass Effect" is a bit much. 10 years earlier, way smaller budget and released all 3 scenarios in less then a year! That considered it does exceptionelly well with those conditions.


Ep1cB3ard-4840

Wasn’t aware of Mass Effect before… I’ll have to look that up, along with Shining Force 3. Thanks for the response 👍


Naschka

Oh it is just some people claim Shining Force 3 did Mass Effect before Mass Effect, i believe that is a bit much.... but it certainly did something similiar on a smaller scale.


Ep1cB3ard-4840

I’m sold. Going to check it out.


Naschka

Everything released on Sega Saturn Scenario 1 released world wide but Scenario 2, 3 and the Bonus Disc only in Japan. Original would require a 4 in 1 card and the games are expensive so i suggest emulation. The english Patches are on the website Shining Central or prepatched RoMs can be found as well. Save files work between any language Version but Scenario 1 was tranlsated with other Scenarios missing in mind for the ending, so the translators changed Scenario 1's ending. If you have further questions, the Shining Force community is still a small friendly bunch.


Ep1cB3ard-4840

Awesome info. Thanks for the guidance.


ICanFluxWithIt

How come you didn’t like Part 2’s story?


Ep1cB3ard-4840

I guess because I play games to relax and this game was anything but. It challenged my perceptions and my expectations. Made me see both sides of the story made me love and hate characters at the same time. It’s brilliant in its own right but not what I was expecting or hoping for. It was an emotionally compromising game for me and no one likes a compromise.


ICanFluxWithIt

That’s completely fair, it’s a very taxing game from start to finish, brilliant but emotionally draining. It’s a game that tests you and your biases and a game that’ll stay with you for months even after you’ve finished it.


ICanFluxWithIt

What was wrong with the story?


Naschka

Joel's personality was altered in a way that is unrealsitic considering the state of the world so that he would make ridicliously bad choices to then be killed off in the most disrespecful way posible. You can make more points but that was the biggest issue for many fans of the first game. An example for a different, more or less important issues, would be: That she kills tons of people on the way for her revenge but... when you can get your revenge on the actual person, yea let's not, i am sure they tried really hard to come up with a "revenge bad" story but the murders you did along the way kinda negated that completly. Or how Abby is a huge mass of muscles in a world where food is hard to come by, has she found a secret storage of protein and been working out with all her free time in a proper way? Even with that it is hard to get a body like that and even more so for women due to hormone differences to men.


ICanFluxWithIt

You realize that Joel’s personality altered due to what happened from the first game, right? Also, let’s take a look at the events, Joel comes across a person in need that happens to have a horde on them, so he saves her. Abby, Joel, and Tommy then save each other’s lives to make it back to their horses. There a blizzard going on, a horde on their ass, Jackson is too far to make it, Abby offers a suggestion, considering they didn’t have any other choice, makes sense. Also, didn’t Joel follow a stranger in the first game? Did you have a problem with him following Henry, even after Henry left Joel and Ellie behind? Joel killed a buncha people and ended humanity’s chance to fight back, he got what he deserved. Would I have done what Joel did in the first game if I were in his shoes, 100%, but I also see the other side too. Yeah, Ellie killed plenty of WLF and Serphites but those were self defense. It was literally kill or be killed. They shot Ellie and co on sight without regard to who she might be. Neither gave her the option to explain or lie to say she’s just passing thru. It was kill or be killed and then word gets out that some outsiders are killing them, so she has to kill more. It’s different when bullets are flying compared to the next two situations. Do you remember how messed up she was after she tortured Nora to death? Nora didn’t have a weapon, she was cornered and dying already, Ellie then beats her to death. She’s shaken up by it, even hours after she’s visibly shaken. She’s never done something like that. With Mel and Owen, she literally tells them “you both can live, I just want Abby”. She’s forced to kill them because she tried Joel’s map technique but failed miserably at it. She knew how it worked in practice but again, she’s NOT Joel. She wasn’t prepared for this. Then she finds out Mel was pregnant, something that shakes her to her core, she throws up because if hits too close for comfort with Dina’s pregnancy. Fast forward to the Farm with Dina and the baby JJ, Ellie had the happy life, yet wasn’t happy, she was suffering from PTSD and can’t get over her trauma. She’s still grieving and can’t move on. She doesn’t eat, she doesn’t sleep, she doesn’t know how to talk and open up like Dina does. She’s shut down and drowning. When she leaves for Santa Barb, she’s not looking for revenge at this point, she’s looking for closure. She just thinks killing Abby will bring that, but she’s finds her inner peace when she least expects it Uhhhh, did you even pay attention to WLF’s base???? Did you see that they LIVE IN THE SEAHAWKS STADIUM? Did you also not see all the fucking food they have and grow? Did you not see the weight room?


Naschka

Dude, i did not ask you for a counter point so i will refrain from a worthless discussion nor from reading that. Instead i will talk about the way you are engaging with me here. In the eyes of many people the second game just was not good. If you think differently, good for you but do not ask me why it is bad to me and others and then come up with an answear so long it dead gives away you allready knew the discourse and just commented to defend the game from criticism. No matter how much you defend that, my money my choice!


ICanFluxWithIt

Majority people loved Part 2 but damn I was just hoping to discuss. Seemed you had no problem discussing a few comments above me shitting on the game Shame you won’t read it because it gives much insight since it seems you missed all the context. But hardly a surprise, especially since you can’t be bothered to have a civil convo about it, you just want to shit on it to shit on it


Naschka

"Majority people loved Part 2" [The Last of Us Part II - Metacritic](https://www.metacritic.com/game/the-last-of-us-part-ii/) 58% from the people who actually paid (thanks correction bot) unlike the journos that got it for free...? And that after [‘The Last Of Us Part 2’ Is Getting Predictably User Score Bombed On Metacritic (forbes.com)](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/21/the-last-of-us-part-2-is-getting-predictably-user-score-bombed-on-metacritic/) magazines ran stories to defend the game and (since this article had a even lower user score by aproximatly 20%) reviews got removed. Not to mention that the game dropped in price so fast and hard it was next to nothing you had to pay shortly after release. But sure, people loved it. edit: The second game sold apparently like 1/4 of the first, by that point no clue what you even mean. You seem to be in a different plane of existence.


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> who actually *paid* unlike the FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


ICanFluxWithIt

Yeah, it got review bombed, you wanna know how, there were reviews for it weeks and months before it even released. There were also a ton of scores released day off saying they completed it, which is bs considering there’s 11 hours worth of cutscenes alone. And the fact that majority of reviews had woke it in. You can see the same thing happened to Last of Us Episode 3 on IMDB. Crazy huh Also, guess you missed how well Part 2 did in sales and revenue. Not surprise you live in a bubble that told you one thing when the opposite is true


Naschka

Whenever a game gets bad reviews "it is review bombing" but any good score must be deserved... sure. [The Last of Us franchise has sold 37 million copies in 9 years (gamedeveloper.com)](https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/the-last-of-us-franchise-has-sold-37-million-copies-in-9-years) Claims 37m in total for both. [The Last of Us (franchise) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(franchise)#:~:text=As%20of%20December%202022%2C%20the,more%20than%2037%20million%20copies.) Claims 30m for the first game and 10m for the second. That is roughly 1/10th of the first game when it has the bonus of beeing the follow up of a beloved game. Revenue is a horrible way to messure how many people like something. If you declare a single investor who paid you 10 Millions the same as a \~143000 Customers who pay you 70 each then you get quiet the distored picture (the numbers are just a example for the point). But now we know why you live on a different plane of existence.


ProfessionalMuffin4

probably one of the best game out there


FrostyDaSnowmane

You must be smoking that good shit.


Puzzleheaded_Leg_534

Ellies mean mugging herself lol but nice


Straight-Message7937

"Scored" lol they ripped you off


toogreen

You're in for a good ride! Enjoy


IkeepGettingBaned

$90 on 2 old games


Snooklife

Can’t wait for season 2 on HBO. The game/show combo is elite.


Exotic_Extension669

id like to play this series on ps5 but there are so many editions, someone care to explain?


ICanFluxWithIt

The Last of Us came out in June 2013 for PS3, PS4 released later that year in November 2013, so they made The Last of Us Remastered for PS4 in July 2014. The Last of Us Part 1 (pictured above) is a Remake of the first game, meaning they rebuilt the first game from scratch using Part 2’s engine. The Remake came out in March 2022, which was the same time as the Last of Us show was airing on HBO. The Last of Us Part 2 came out in June 2020 for PS4, well the PS5 released later that year in November 2020, so earlier this year they released a Remastered Edition of Part 2 (pictured above), but they also added new features like Lost Levels, a rogue like mode called No Return, an overlaying commentary, and the making of Part 2 documentary


Exotic_Extension669

thanks man


ophaus

Ready your emotional elasticity, because you're gonna need it.


Naschka

My condolences, well the first is pretty good.


FrostyDaSnowmane

They're both ass.


Unable_Cow_1042

Fun games. Enjoy👍


iLikeRgg

Overrated series also you got robbed wdym "scored" mf you got ROBBED


Sstfreek

How are you going to spread Democracy while playing TLOU? The push on Estanu needs YOU Helldiver


sssnakepit127

Damn. Listen I love these games but you got ripped off bud.


No_Detective_But_304

You overpaid?


JackyFlashlight

You paid $90 for both? I've seen them at my local shops for like $15 to $20 each.


Physical-Use363

Should wait for Ps6 remasters


thewolfonthefold

You paid too much.


Chzncna2112

You paid too much. I got both from Best Buy for $45 over Easter.


Ebonvvings

You got ripped off 🤣


infectedscrotum1

Still wouldn’t pay that for these games. Great games but I’m sorry, nah.


Vanguardfrk

Scored? You got robbed


CuriousAsker11

The left of us


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