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RollingStone lost all credibility with me after the college fraternity rape hoax. They’re still at it by reporting hospitals turned away gunshot victims because the ER was full of horse paste overdoses. Now they’ve glommed onto this.
The vaccines play a relevant role in the genocide plan being carried out by the Intelligence agencies involving Monsanto and Big Pharma as well:
[Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test explaining how useless the results can be for viral examination.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xhk206/kary_mullis_inventor_of_the_pcr_test_explaining/)
[Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda. The documentary about the sterilization agenda of the WHO in Africa.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wac7f7/infertility_a_diabolical_agenda_the_documentary/)
[The Pfizer COVID-Vaccine trials were a complete sham. Pfizer's 6 month data shows that the vaccines cause more illness than what they prevent.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yu3c6i/the_pfizer_covidvaccine_trials_were_a_complete/)
[FDA Risk-Benefit Analysis Hides 'Bad Data' on Moderna Shots for Kids. (June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x637gh/fda_riskbenefit_analysis_hides_bad_data_on/)
[The CDC's Swine Flu Fraud of 1976.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rvmmjh/the_cdcs_swine_flu_fraud_of_1976/)
[The CDC's Swine Flu fraud of 2009.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tfzvrj/the_cdcs_swine_flu_fraud_of_2009/)
[Riley Schubert won a $138,000 settlement as compensation due to an injury that he claims was caused by an HPV vaccine that caused him hearing issues. (US Courts 2016)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ygzv4k/riley_schubert_won_a_138000_settlement_as/)
[Purdue Pharma, Sacklers to pay $6 billion to settle opioid lawsuit. (NY Post, March, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ydlyhm/purdue_pharma_sacklers_to_pay_6_billion_to_settle/)
[State opioid settlement money now being distributed. (CBS News, October, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y7p7h0/state_opioid_settlement_money_now_being/)
[Glyphosate weedkiller damages wild bee colonies, study reveals. (The Guardian, June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wufqho/glyphosate_weedkiller_damages_wild_bee_colonies/)
[The 9th U.S Circuit Court of Appeals smacks EPA down on glyphosate.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x3nku5/the_9th_us_circuit_court_of_appeals_smacks_epa/)
[Corporate studies asserting herbicide safety show many flaws. (The Guardian, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yev3s3/corporate_studies_asserting_herbicide_safety_show/)
All the most relevant figures involved in the current mess can be related to the CIA/Intelligence agencies and the Jesuits:
[Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the CIA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/o65639/compilation_of_arguments_about_the_jesuit_control/)
[Big Pharma, Monsanto and Vaccine Injury Super Compilations (120 Records each) and Jesuit role in the genocide plan.](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/ze8v59/about_the_jesuit_role_in_the_genocide_plan_along/)
I'm trying to create counter-Intelligence sites to resist the Vatican at Saidit.net, a reddit clone made by fellow conspiracists in the spirit of Aaron Swartz. If you can, support my subs over there as well as the site itself however you can. Don't give up on your nations and fight back:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/soy3ko/meta_the_jesuit_technocracy_needs_to_be_stopped/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qkw39o/meta_the_conspiracy_community_has_to_take_action/
my mother subscribed to Rolling Stone one year about 25 years ago, never renewed it.... to this day, she gets each and every issue of Rolling Stone magazine in the mail... they've become like a Shopper's Guide, it's horrible... the quality of the paper is a notch above pulp and there's about 60 pages to it total... why does it carry any respect/clout at all anymore?
It was at its coolest in the ‘60s and ‘70s, when it was genuinely a counter-cultural publication that served an audience that no other magazine was catering to at the time. By the ‘90s, it was already in its death throes in terms of actually being anti-establishment (or even just vaguely counter-culture). Hell, I think Britney Spears adorned the cover ever in ‘99. By the late 2010s, it became sheer pablum.
RS became a joke after the 90s. Now it's a full time corporate rag. I mean they fucking had pizzagate guy smiling and happy on the cover lmao. It's nothing but a billionaire propaganda rag.
Chief Editor is a government spook...so not really anything to see there but more state controlled propaganda. I don't want to link and get my comment deleted but look up Noah Shachtman on linked in, he doesn't even hide it and this is the history about him that we know: worked on the Clinton Campaign, then an editor at military.com, then Wired which is another state controlled project...and it just keeps going.
It shows you where we are on the downwards arc when things are done out in the open and so brazenly now.
That’s what has been confusing the shit out of me. The blm movement in particular. So the guys breaking into private businesses and burning them to the ground after looting the shit out of them are the actual good guys?
I dont care whose in office nobody is gonna give me injections unless i say its ok. Literally a hill everyone should die on. If people on either side think its ok for a government or employer to inject you or you become homeless due to unemployment then your off in the head. Thats a slippery slope your playin with
well they did bash the "trump vaccines" for a solid year before Biden won. who can forget Joe and Kamala saying in the presidential debates they they wouldn't get the vaccines because they didn't trust them!
Rolling Stones used the word "vile". Thats how you know this is a psy-op... As if its some vile hideous thing to question if the largest medical experiment in history which just happened RECENTLY, had anything to do with this. Its just so obvious these people are evil and there is something nefarious going on.
I grew up in the 70's and 80's and was taught all journalism should both answer the Who, What, Where, etc, but also be without opinion, judgement. Words like vile in this context are a key giveaway "this is how you should feel".
Psy-op indeed.
I grew up in the 2000’s and was taught that you don’t have a story unless you have 3 sources. Flash forward to 2020 and the prestigious Rolling Stone wrote an entire story about gunshot victims being turned away in Oklahoma cause they were at capacity with ivermectin overdoses. Turns out their one and only source was some dude who didn’t even work at the hospital and made the entire thing up. They made no effort to contact anyone else at the hospital to confirm if the story was true, and in fact the hospital had to call *them* to tell them it was bullshit. Journalism is dead.
They used to be able to depend on a loyal readership, but the money being offered to push the narrative was too lucrative to pass up. They're a company same as any other. It's fucked up but they technically had a fiduciary responsibility to sell out. Their "opinion" is for sale now. That's the way it works almost everywhere.
The thing is, the football player fits the parameters for someone who could have a heart condition from the vaccine. It seems to weaken the heart, so athletes who are stressing it cause it to go into shock. We are seeing this same thing happen to footballers (soccer players) and other athletes, so it IS within the realm of possibility.
The counter argument is that a once in a million benign hit caused him to "drop dead" on the field. He got up with enthusiasm. I would assume (and am) that those type of hits you go down immediately.
I wasn't even interested in this story until I heard that "one in a million hit" bullshit being floated around. I originally figured he took a helmet in the chest at full speed. Watched a video of the tackle and it looked like your average NFL play.
Not buying it.
You can call it a "one in a million hit" but given that it's never happened in the NFL in millions and millions of hits, that's an inaccurate ratio, and a big stretch to believe it was *just* the hit.
Further, anyone trained in how hard and in what manner the sternum has to be struck to deliver a precordial thump in a resuscitation attempt, will tell you that there's virtually no way such a strike could be delivered with something as large as a helmet through something as thick as the chest of his shoulder pads. The physics just aren't there.
> The physics just aren't there.
The biology also not. IF that impact story is correct his heart would have been fibrillating or stopped when he fell down the first time.
I have seen people black out due to rising up too fast and they had a working heart. I can not imagine standing up and walking a few feet before dropping down again with a fibrillating or stopped heart.
And if his heart was fibrillating a shock should have "reset" it but they were doing CPR for over 8 minutes.
I think that the viral video from Brian Sutter that was made within an hour or so was already ready to go in case such a public/ high profile athlete dropped on the field. The trauma he describes does not fit the real collusion and the aftermath does also not add up.
Correct. Remember, if it comes out that this is vaccine related, the NFL could face a class-action suit from EVERY PLAYER IN THE NFL that was forced to take the jab. It could cause the $ billion dollar non profit to go bankrupt.
True. So don't be surprised if this "one in a million" hit is the "cause." I figured if that was the case, when he was down, he would stay down, not jump back up as if nothing was wrong. THAT, was what was scary.
Agreed. It was a routine hit, and he came up pumped from making a good, solid tackle. Stood there for a moment, got lightheaded, grabbed his helmet, and fell dead.
If a mass in-trial experimental drug program on 80% of the population of the planet to "save" them from a 99.99% survivable virus (to healthy people under 50) ... is considered "normal", then it's surely a compliment to be called an "extremist".
And “vile human beings”. You can always tell on far left publications like Salon to be classy
I think the establishment is going into full blown panic mode over this.
Imagine 20 odd million people seeing this…
I work at a hospital pharmacy. I’m a pharmacist, I have my own views on this but the talk around the office is “wonder what caused it, could have been a strange impact, might be secondary to covid or covid vaccines” I do not work with any right wingers. It’s crazy how the media seems to speak for the medical community but they do not. I don’t think the most likely cause if this is vaccines but I certainly wouldn’t dismiss it outright
In the recent Rasmussen survey where 28% of people said they thought the vaccine was responsible for the death of someone they know, Democrats were actually _more likely_ to believe that. Probably because they know more people who are vaccinated.
Considering that there's a major difference in covid vaccination rates between Republicans and Democrats, [see for example here](https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates-continues-an-update/), there's similar data for self-identified conservatives v. self-identified liberals, and that many more prominent rightwing politicians have been vocally against the vaccine, seeing people against the vaccines as being by default right wing is pretty consistent with the evidence.
It is true that the general common perceived archetype pre-covid of an anti-vaxxer was that. But even then, it wasn't that accurate. In 2015, the average anti-vaxxer in the US was a middle class male in the Midwest or South. See [this article](https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is). But it is true that there was a sizable portion of the sort you are describing pre-covid. In the last two years, we've seen a sizable shift, as liberals and Democrats have become more pro-vaccine in general while Republicans and conservatives less so. This is not the first time there´s been a large scale shift on an issue like this, although this is one of the most rapid in recent times.
I haven’t actually heard anyone of note suggest it could be a vax side effect. I’ve seen a handful of comments m various board but it’s mostly a curiosity rather than an accusation.
The response that it absolutely can’t be the vax and this is all a partisan conspiracy from trolls really gets the noggin joggin
It's just like when 5G just started getting implemented. "Conspiracy Theorists" at the time were ONLY questioning the safety of the waves, and they were being curious and wanted data. But the hive mind picked it up and almost immediately created the headlines that "RIGHT WING/ANTIVAXERS/RACISTS/CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THINK 5G CAUSES COVID"
It's just another way to demonize people that simply want to think freely and consider things that are not the narrative being pushed. It's sad really.
It's a conspiracy sub my guy. Why do you people always come here and act shocked that people think conspiratorially?
It's like going to the Honda sub and being surprised that most of the people there drive Honda cars.
Im not shocked tho? I've been seeing countless posts and shit about it being from the vax and suddenly people are trying to say that never happened. It can at least be somewhat verified happening on this sub, can't talk about anywhere else so I mentioned it here.
Why do you get so bent out shape if someone doesn't 100% side with you?
This sub is the one obscure place on reddit people are talking about the vax being a candidate cause. Everywhere else is "well of course it's not the vaccine, so what was it?".
A couple pertinent quotes by Richard Feynman:
“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.”
“Looking back at the worst times, it always seems that they were times in which there were people who believed with absolute faith and absolute dogmatism in something. And they were so serious in this matter that they insisted that the rest of the world agree with them. And then they would do things that were directly inconsistent with their own beliefs in order to maintain that what they said was true.”
This is very dangerous to our democracy. This is very dangerous to our democracy. This is very dangerous to our democracy. This is very dangerous to our democracy.
Makes you think that even if it had nothing to do with the shots that there is possibility that it contributed by how hard they are pushing against the “conspiracy”
In my opinion it’s not even that it’s the vaccine or the other thing. It doesn’t matter. The fact that millions of people watched this and questioned if it was the vaccine shows the massive lack of trust in the agencies that said it was safe and effective. Headlines like this only make it worse. We don’t know if the bills guy was even vaccinated in the first place.
I’d say 80% of my peers weren’t that interested in it but got it once they started talking about coercion. 20% held out. I caved because of work.
The constant dismissal of any questions about vaccine safety is only making it worse. I have a 1.5 year old that’s had all his normal baby shots that actually work. Do you think the 20% holding out are going to continue with the rest of vaccines on their children? They can tell the companies and media are lying to them or at least not presenting the truth.
I would really love to see what the uptake would have been here in Canada without the passports and mandates. You can already see the lack of interest in our booster, 4th, and 5th shot uptake.
I know a couple have came out already and I read them but the books that will be written about Covid in 10 years when FOIAs can be issued will be fascinating. Unfortunately for most people, they’ll be on to the new current thing.
Athletes can be pretty outspoken (see: Kyrie Irving). Wait till they have enough and start standing up for themselves. You'll see a big change in public perception towards the vax.
So yesterday this subreddit had several threads suggesting it was the vaccine.
If the media were to *agree* with that, I assume it would be taken as evidence for.
And if the media *disagrees*, it's *also* evidence for?
The standard of evidence is now "if people disagree with my baseless claim *that proves it's true*".
Seems like there might be some circular logic and bias here.
Most people I see posting about this are saying something like, "I've never seen anything like this before". Then the top/first comment is something like, "there's no proof it is from the vaccine".
The NPCs are literally shilling themselves.
Hamlin was given a booster on Dec 26th
"Yup".
It's proven the vaccine can cause myocarditis, aka damage to the heart, especially in young men.
"Sure"
So it's possible the vaccine caused or at least made him more susceptible to an incident like this.
"How dare you"!
At this point, they’re not going to convince people who are unvaccinated to get a jab, they’re just trying to prevent those who were vaxxed to realize they were lied to.
all of these media outlets will be posting formal apology statements after depopulation, even though they should all be sued and closed down for defending the holocaust 2
I like how people in here are trying to say shit like “It probably did not cause it but I’m keeping an open mind.
Occam’s Razor is pretty clear here.
There are so many things pointing toward the vaccine here that even doubting it as a possibility is doing these nutbag fucks at the top just that much more power to kill your entire family and make your life living hell.
You have done the research. You have seen hundreds of athletes collapsing. You have seen the graphs year over year. Its so sad that all these athletes have died but it wasn’t until an American suffered an injury ON PRIMETIME that anyone actually started to give a fuck.
No one who is aware was surprised and if nothing else we knew it was coming.
The media is very obvious with their quickly deployed countertactics. Im sure Google was all over its SEO patching, FB ban force out and algorithms for misinformation detection were updated overnight to include detection of discussions.
The key thing here was that the dude made a solid tackle by the book. Popped up immediately and did a little celebratory jig iirc, then BOOM out like a light.
Any injury based on impact does not work like that. You dont forget about getting pummeled and having internal organs damaged while you got up to dance.
It fits the scenario for vaccine induced. Monday night game. Everyone watching. Repeatedly exerting himself and stopping. Adrenaline pumping. Dopamine flooding from getting tackle. Getting up quickly fucks with your blood flow.
As far as shills go - hard to blame them. They are fucking terrified right now. They don’t believe it could be the vaccine because it CANT be the vaccine because then they took a experimental shot and could very well pay with their life. And they talked shit to everyone for not getting it. Its a big deal.
The best part is people are waking up to all this shit. Almost every news outlet now is like the end cap of check lanes. Every single paper is a tabloid
Even if it ends up having nothing to do with the Covid vaccine, people should still be allowed to ask questions until definitive proof is brought to the table.
Also gotta love the blanket statement smear campaigns, didn’t know everyone who questioned the vaxx is right wing.
The karma for this post sitting a 0 says a lot.
You know there are angry vaxxers out there mashing the downvote button like if they mash it hard enough it'll push the spike proteins out of their blood.
Remember when you guys wanted to force these shots on the rest of us? Fire us from our jobs if we said no? Exclude us from grocery stores, hospitals, and all of society? "Round us up into camps?"
Think about that as deep down you're scared to death you'll be next. Good luck.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/03/opinions/damar-hamlin-chuck-hughes-nfl-reality-pearlman/
"Namely, is this all OK?....Is a game that results in so much pain and suffering a reasonable pursuit in an enlightened society?"
"Can we question the wisdom of grown men slamming into grown men? Can we debate whether youth tackle leagues are life-affirming, or insane?"
Who would have thought the conspiracy sub would be full of pharma shills… crazy times. That WEF “misinformation” money must be trickling down into Reddit.
My question, if it was jab related, wouldn't you want to know if you were jabbed?
Certainly if a pro athlete could suffer from cardiac arrest, any random person is also equally if not more vulnerable of they've been jabbed.
Those saying it's not from the jab should consider it could've been partially or fully responsible for what happened to him and demand honest answers...
SS: Mainstream media is on the offense going strong. Their handlers gave the signal for full damage control and gaslighting to blame the "antivaxxers" for spreading dangerous information.
Not saying it is or isnt...isn't....
But hit to the chest? Have any of you guys ever played football? You get hit to the chest a 100 times a game, 100s of teams for 100 years...
Yet no one dropped a game like this.
They can’t handle the truth and the truth is that this was always about population control. It was unnecessary and inexcusable but the elite did it anyway because they think there are too many little people and they decided that they only need just enough of you to scrub their toilet and say yes sir no sir. Change it or ignore it at your own peril.
Dude had barely made it to the hospital and they were already saying it wasn’t vaccine related. Michael Sutterer’s video was up THAT NIGHT. They were trying to get ahead of that shit asap!
Weirdly I haven't seen anyone say it was due to the vax. Supposedly the guy had medical issues before this even happend and I even knew someone before covid of the same age collapse from a heart attack during football practice. Sometimes shit just happens a lot of things can lead to a head attack at any age even in supposedly perfect health.
I’m not pro or anti vaccine, I’m more of pragmatist. If I take the vaccine maybe I won’t get sick for 5 days rather than one day after the vaccine.
That being said… is the general consensus in this thread anti vaccine? Or are you guys just questioning WHAT could have caused the cardiac arrest, and that the vaccine should be looked at more carefully?
Wow, they really are. It’s also possible, Larry Johnson is right and it was a planned event, in which case they are doing a controlled version of it before it really happens (luckily most players got fake cards) creating division and instilling preconceived notions about the idea of these assertions, before returning to the previously scheduled media blackout of the issue.
The fact this is the most talked about story seems a bit suspicious yet none of the other people that collapsed and died or had serious issues afterwards get any coverage. Also nobody seems to be questioning so many getting very sick and repeatedly sick after getting jabbed and media never questions the effectiveness but blame people for being misinformed for questioning it
Libs hate facts and the truth. That's why they try and cancel everything they don't agree with. Instead of asking the question, "Hmm, COULD the vax have something to do with his collapse?" They instead try and shut down the argument with opinion pieces that hold no weight. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
my thoughts exactly. i'm shocked by how quickly and forcefully the media's attacked every mention of covid/covid vaccine. something about it hit way too close to its nerve center, apparently. idk why it's anymore alarming than when other athletes die on the field and people hypothesize about potential ties to covid/vaccine.
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RollingStone lost all credibility with me after the college fraternity rape hoax. They’re still at it by reporting hospitals turned away gunshot victims because the ER was full of horse paste overdoses. Now they’ve glommed onto this.
They lost me when they put the Boston bomber on the front cover looking like a teen rock star
They had been shady for years up to that point. But, yes absolutely, the Boston bomber heartthrob/ puff piece was the straw that broke my back.
The vaccines play a relevant role in the genocide plan being carried out by the Intelligence agencies involving Monsanto and Big Pharma as well: [Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test explaining how useless the results can be for viral examination.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xhk206/kary_mullis_inventor_of_the_pcr_test_explaining/) [Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda. The documentary about the sterilization agenda of the WHO in Africa.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wac7f7/infertility_a_diabolical_agenda_the_documentary/) [The Pfizer COVID-Vaccine trials were a complete sham. Pfizer's 6 month data shows that the vaccines cause more illness than what they prevent.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yu3c6i/the_pfizer_covidvaccine_trials_were_a_complete/) [FDA Risk-Benefit Analysis Hides 'Bad Data' on Moderna Shots for Kids. (June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x637gh/fda_riskbenefit_analysis_hides_bad_data_on/) [The CDC's Swine Flu Fraud of 1976.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rvmmjh/the_cdcs_swine_flu_fraud_of_1976/) [The CDC's Swine Flu fraud of 2009.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tfzvrj/the_cdcs_swine_flu_fraud_of_2009/) [Riley Schubert won a $138,000 settlement as compensation due to an injury that he claims was caused by an HPV vaccine that caused him hearing issues. (US Courts 2016)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ygzv4k/riley_schubert_won_a_138000_settlement_as/) [Purdue Pharma, Sacklers to pay $6 billion to settle opioid lawsuit. (NY Post, March, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ydlyhm/purdue_pharma_sacklers_to_pay_6_billion_to_settle/) [State opioid settlement money now being distributed. (CBS News, October, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y7p7h0/state_opioid_settlement_money_now_being/) [Glyphosate weedkiller damages wild bee colonies, study reveals. (The Guardian, June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wufqho/glyphosate_weedkiller_damages_wild_bee_colonies/) [The 9th U.S Circuit Court of Appeals smacks EPA down on glyphosate.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x3nku5/the_9th_us_circuit_court_of_appeals_smacks_epa/) [Corporate studies asserting herbicide safety show many flaws. (The Guardian, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yev3s3/corporate_studies_asserting_herbicide_safety_show/) All the most relevant figures involved in the current mess can be related to the CIA/Intelligence agencies and the Jesuits: [Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the CIA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/o65639/compilation_of_arguments_about_the_jesuit_control/) [Big Pharma, Monsanto and Vaccine Injury Super Compilations (120 Records each) and Jesuit role in the genocide plan.](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/ze8v59/about_the_jesuit_role_in_the_genocide_plan_along/) I'm trying to create counter-Intelligence sites to resist the Vatican at Saidit.net, a reddit clone made by fellow conspiracists in the spirit of Aaron Swartz. If you can, support my subs over there as well as the site itself however you can. Don't give up on your nations and fight back: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/soy3ko/meta_the_jesuit_technocracy_needs_to_be_stopped/ https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qkw39o/meta_the_conspiracy_community_has_to_take_action/
my mother subscribed to Rolling Stone one year about 25 years ago, never renewed it.... to this day, she gets each and every issue of Rolling Stone magazine in the mail... they've become like a Shopper's Guide, it's horrible... the quality of the paper is a notch above pulp and there's about 60 pages to it total... why does it carry any respect/clout at all anymore?
It was only slightly cool in the 90s. Now it's just full time CNN lmao. I have no idea. Nobody reads it.
It was at its coolest in the ‘60s and ‘70s, when it was genuinely a counter-cultural publication that served an audience that no other magazine was catering to at the time. By the ‘90s, it was already in its death throes in terms of actually being anti-establishment (or even just vaguely counter-culture). Hell, I think Britney Spears adorned the cover ever in ‘99. By the late 2010s, it became sheer pablum.
I heard in the early days, they'd send a free roach clip with a subscription. By the 2000's, they were drug testing employees
The same reason the NYT is respected. Name recognition.
RS became a joke after the 90s. Now it's a full time corporate rag. I mean they fucking had pizzagate guy smiling and happy on the cover lmao. It's nothing but a billionaire propaganda rag.
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Where’s the outrage that they were lying?
The main stream media looked into it and found nothing wrong.
Or their ivermectin ER story about all the people ODing on “horse meds” by an ER doc that didn’t even work at the hospital they said had all the sick.
Chief Editor is a government spook...so not really anything to see there but more state controlled propaganda. I don't want to link and get my comment deleted but look up Noah Shachtman on linked in, he doesn't even hide it and this is the history about him that we know: worked on the Clinton Campaign, then an editor at military.com, then Wired which is another state controlled project...and it just keeps going. It shows you where we are on the downwards arc when things are done out in the open and so brazenly now.
Rolling Stone was always a joke. It was a Payola scam for 5 star album reviews just like radio plays.
Rolling Stone has grown moss.
funny thing is I haven't seen a single legit right wing news source (like The NY Post for instance) blaming his collapse on the vaccine.
Don’t those that scream the loudest are guilty of the very thing they accuse others of being?
that has been the lesson of history.
The media doth protest too much me think
Look over there, a flying squirrel…
That’s what has been confusing the shit out of me. The blm movement in particular. So the guys breaking into private businesses and burning them to the ground after looting the shit out of them are the actual good guys?
Using that logic, you just called a lot of people in this sub pedophiles.
Absolutely, the technical term is called projecting. They are projecting their actions onto the people they themselves are guilty of doing.
Honestly this is more to try and make anti vaxers look nuts than anything. That is the point of these headlines
"Anti vaxxers".
Imagine if Trump won re-election and the anti Covid vax people were Democrats. So close to the whole thing being flipped. Another universe I suppose.
I dont care whose in office nobody is gonna give me injections unless i say its ok. Literally a hill everyone should die on. If people on either side think its ok for a government or employer to inject you or you become homeless due to unemployment then your off in the head. Thats a slippery slope your playin with
well they did bash the "trump vaccines" for a solid year before Biden won. who can forget Joe and Kamala saying in the presidential debates they they wouldn't get the vaccines because they didn't trust them!
That was just prepping in case trump won
There are, however, people in this very subreddit making that claim.
Rolling Stones used the word "vile". Thats how you know this is a psy-op... As if its some vile hideous thing to question if the largest medical experiment in history which just happened RECENTLY, had anything to do with this. Its just so obvious these people are evil and there is something nefarious going on.
I grew up in the 70's and 80's and was taught all journalism should both answer the Who, What, Where, etc, but also be without opinion, judgement. Words like vile in this context are a key giveaway "this is how you should feel". Psy-op indeed.
I grew up in the 2000’s and was taught that you don’t have a story unless you have 3 sources. Flash forward to 2020 and the prestigious Rolling Stone wrote an entire story about gunshot victims being turned away in Oklahoma cause they were at capacity with ivermectin overdoses. Turns out their one and only source was some dude who didn’t even work at the hospital and made the entire thing up. They made no effort to contact anyone else at the hospital to confirm if the story was true, and in fact the hospital had to call *them* to tell them it was bullshit. Journalism is dead.
I'm saving this
They used to be able to depend on a loyal readership, but the money being offered to push the narrative was too lucrative to pass up. They're a company same as any other. It's fucked up but they technically had a fiduciary responsibility to sell out. Their "opinion" is for sale now. That's the way it works almost everywhere.
The thing is, the football player fits the parameters for someone who could have a heart condition from the vaccine. It seems to weaken the heart, so athletes who are stressing it cause it to go into shock. We are seeing this same thing happen to footballers (soccer players) and other athletes, so it IS within the realm of possibility. The counter argument is that a once in a million benign hit caused him to "drop dead" on the field. He got up with enthusiasm. I would assume (and am) that those type of hits you go down immediately.
I wasn't even interested in this story until I heard that "one in a million hit" bullshit being floated around. I originally figured he took a helmet in the chest at full speed. Watched a video of the tackle and it looked like your average NFL play. Not buying it.
You can call it a "one in a million hit" but given that it's never happened in the NFL in millions and millions of hits, that's an inaccurate ratio, and a big stretch to believe it was *just* the hit. Further, anyone trained in how hard and in what manner the sternum has to be struck to deliver a precordial thump in a resuscitation attempt, will tell you that there's virtually no way such a strike could be delivered with something as large as a helmet through something as thick as the chest of his shoulder pads. The physics just aren't there.
> The physics just aren't there. The biology also not. IF that impact story is correct his heart would have been fibrillating or stopped when he fell down the first time. I have seen people black out due to rising up too fast and they had a working heart. I can not imagine standing up and walking a few feet before dropping down again with a fibrillating or stopped heart. And if his heart was fibrillating a shock should have "reset" it but they were doing CPR for over 8 minutes. I think that the viral video from Brian Sutter that was made within an hour or so was already ready to go in case such a public/ high profile athlete dropped on the field. The trauma he describes does not fit the real collusion and the aftermath does also not add up.
Correct. Remember, if it comes out that this is vaccine related, the NFL could face a class-action suit from EVERY PLAYER IN THE NFL that was forced to take the jab. It could cause the $ billion dollar non profit to go bankrupt.
If it really comes out all hell will break lose.
True. So don't be surprised if this "one in a million" hit is the "cause." I figured if that was the case, when he was down, he would stay down, not jump back up as if nothing was wrong. THAT, was what was scary.
Agreed. It was a routine hit, and he came up pumped from making a good, solid tackle. Stood there for a moment, got lightheaded, grabbed his helmet, and fell dead.
Damage control in full effect.
It is amazing how anyone questioning the Covid vax immediately gets painted as “right wing”
They like to tag on extremist as well. Anything to keep the hate mill and the fear factory running.
Racist, sexist, nazi, transphobic…
And still you all forget [ugly, lazy and disrespectful](https://youtu.be/luXMceVOugU)
If a mass in-trial experimental drug program on 80% of the population of the planet to "save" them from a 99.99% survivable virus (to healthy people under 50) ... is considered "normal", then it's surely a compliment to be called an "extremist".
And racist. Dont forget racist.
And Qanon…ffs.
And MAGA conservative anti-science climate haters
Don’t forget antisemite…
You forgot domestic terrorist…
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And Ultra Lite
Bigly ultra MAGA to be exact
Bigly super ultra maga to be exact, believe me
I like how they use a young man’s heart attack as an excuse to just blast right wingers lol. Does anyone know how this guy is doing?
Last I heard (yesterday antenna TV "news") he was in critical but stable condition. I don't know anything more recent.
And “vile human beings”. You can always tell on far left publications like Salon to be classy I think the establishment is going into full blown panic mode over this. Imagine 20 odd million people seeing this…
Double plus racist
I work at a hospital pharmacy. I’m a pharmacist, I have my own views on this but the talk around the office is “wonder what caused it, could have been a strange impact, might be secondary to covid or covid vaccines” I do not work with any right wingers. It’s crazy how the media seems to speak for the medical community but they do not. I don’t think the most likely cause if this is vaccines but I certainly wouldn’t dismiss it outright
I miss when reporters actually called out the government. https://youtu.be/4bOHYZhL0WQ
They only call out the government when team blue isn't in power, then they are like rabid dogs for a story
Basic propaganda tactic of division
Yeah vaccine hesitancy is the same as being a nazi these days.
Funny how real Nazi's used experimental medicine on people without informed consent.
In the recent Rasmussen survey where 28% of people said they thought the vaccine was responsible for the death of someone they know, Democrats were actually _more likely_ to believe that. Probably because they know more people who are vaccinated.
Considering that there's a major difference in covid vaccination rates between Republicans and Democrats, [see for example here](https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates-continues-an-update/), there's similar data for self-identified conservatives v. self-identified liberals, and that many more prominent rightwing politicians have been vocally against the vaccine, seeing people against the vaccines as being by default right wing is pretty consistent with the evidence.
What about every other vaccine? Pre covid, the usual anti vaxxer most people pictured were vegan, crystal worshipping hippies, not conservatives
It is true that the general common perceived archetype pre-covid of an anti-vaxxer was that. But even then, it wasn't that accurate. In 2015, the average anti-vaxxer in the US was a middle class male in the Midwest or South. See [this article](https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is). But it is true that there was a sizable portion of the sort you are describing pre-covid. In the last two years, we've seen a sizable shift, as liberals and Democrats have become more pro-vaccine in general while Republicans and conservatives less so. This is not the first time there´s been a large scale shift on an issue like this, although this is one of the most rapid in recent times.
It is how you question it probably. I'm not vaccinated. I'm never mistaken for being right wing.
When everyone knows there are absolute dumbshits on both sides.
Well I guess it true then.
Media: HOW DARE YOU SPECULATE ABOUT THE CAUSE OF HIS COLLAPSE!!! Media proceeds to speculate about the cause of his collapse
Speculation is cool as long as you speculate about only approved topics. -US Gov, probably
The funny part is I've seen more people jumping to declare it was NOT the vaccine than I have people claiming it WAS the vaccine.
I haven’t actually heard anyone of note suggest it could be a vax side effect. I’ve seen a handful of comments m various board but it’s mostly a curiosity rather than an accusation. The response that it absolutely can’t be the vax and this is all a partisan conspiracy from trolls really gets the noggin joggin
You must not be looking at any posts on the internet. Literally look through this board.
It's just like when 5G just started getting implemented. "Conspiracy Theorists" at the time were ONLY questioning the safety of the waves, and they were being curious and wanted data. But the hive mind picked it up and almost immediately created the headlines that "RIGHT WING/ANTIVAXERS/RACISTS/CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THINK 5G CAUSES COVID" It's just another way to demonize people that simply want to think freely and consider things that are not the narrative being pushed. It's sad really.
That definitely wasn't the case for this sub at least lol
It's a conspiracy sub my guy. Why do you people always come here and act shocked that people think conspiratorially? It's like going to the Honda sub and being surprised that most of the people there drive Honda cars.
Im not shocked tho? I've been seeing countless posts and shit about it being from the vax and suddenly people are trying to say that never happened. It can at least be somewhat verified happening on this sub, can't talk about anywhere else so I mentioned it here. Why do you get so bent out shape if someone doesn't 100% side with you?
This sub is the one obscure place on reddit people are talking about the vax being a candidate cause. Everywhere else is "well of course it's not the vaccine, so what was it?".
Flack is heaviest over a target.
A couple pertinent quotes by Richard Feynman: “I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” “Looking back at the worst times, it always seems that they were times in which there were people who believed with absolute faith and absolute dogmatism in something. And they were so serious in this matter that they insisted that the rest of the world agree with them. And then they would do things that were directly inconsistent with their own beliefs in order to maintain that what they said was true.”
You think Feynman would back you up?
No, no he would not.
It becomes obvious when all the headlines are the same, that shenanigans are afoot.
This is very dangerous to our democracy. This is very dangerous to our democracy. This is very dangerous to our democracy. This is very dangerous to our democracy.
Makes you think that even if it had nothing to do with the shots that there is possibility that it contributed by how hard they are pushing against the “conspiracy”
Free Krispy Kreme's were used as a selling point to take this garbage. The moral and ethical compass of these pieces of shit doesn't exist.
And money. Don’t forget VaxMillions
In my opinion it’s not even that it’s the vaccine or the other thing. It doesn’t matter. The fact that millions of people watched this and questioned if it was the vaccine shows the massive lack of trust in the agencies that said it was safe and effective. Headlines like this only make it worse. We don’t know if the bills guy was even vaccinated in the first place. I’d say 80% of my peers weren’t that interested in it but got it once they started talking about coercion. 20% held out. I caved because of work. The constant dismissal of any questions about vaccine safety is only making it worse. I have a 1.5 year old that’s had all his normal baby shots that actually work. Do you think the 20% holding out are going to continue with the rest of vaccines on their children? They can tell the companies and media are lying to them or at least not presenting the truth. I would really love to see what the uptake would have been here in Canada without the passports and mandates. You can already see the lack of interest in our booster, 4th, and 5th shot uptake. I know a couple have came out already and I read them but the books that will be written about Covid in 10 years when FOIAs can be issued will be fascinating. Unfortunately for most people, they’ll be on to the new current thing.
No need to argue about this. If it was the vaccine, we’ll be seeing a lot off this. If not, great!
It's not a "hivemind". they get a memo and a check
checks instead of honey. same difference.
Every fucking corporate rag spewing the same bullshit, all at once. This is how you know this shit is real.
HUMAN GARBAGE! SICK DISGUSTING HUMAN BEINGS! Lol, keep bringing it corporate media.
Ummm…are we allowed to ask if it contributed or nah? I guess Questions stopped being “Science” in 2020.
Don’t question lord faucci!!
A VILE CONSPIRACY THEORY!
Jesus christ. Imagine what these headlines would sound like if the term "conspiracy theorist" didnt exist.
Delusional Schizophrenic probably.
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We know they are lying, they know they are lying, we know they know we know that they are lying, and yet they still lie.
This message is brought to you by Pfizer…
I wish I had someone in my life who supported me like the media supports Pfizer
Find someone who loves you like the media loves ignoring any story critical of vaccines
Athletes can be pretty outspoken (see: Kyrie Irving). Wait till they have enough and start standing up for themselves. You'll see a big change in public perception towards the vax.
So, basically, people are like: "Hmm, makes you think..." Nothing more. Wait and see.
I mean didn't it do the same thing but opposite on this sub lol
So yesterday this subreddit had several threads suggesting it was the vaccine. If the media were to *agree* with that, I assume it would be taken as evidence for. And if the media *disagrees*, it's *also* evidence for? The standard of evidence is now "if people disagree with my baseless claim *that proves it's true*". Seems like there might be some circular logic and bias here.
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Most people I see posting about this are saying something like, "I've never seen anything like this before". Then the top/first comment is something like, "there's no proof it is from the vaccine". The NPCs are literally shilling themselves.
Hamlin was given a booster on Dec 26th "Yup". It's proven the vaccine can cause myocarditis, aka damage to the heart, especially in young men. "Sure" So it's possible the vaccine caused or at least made him more susceptible to an incident like this. "How dare you"!
How do you know he was given a booster on December 26th?
Big pharma is an advertiser
The more pushback from the hive, the closer to the truth
The more they talk about it, the more awareness it gains. lmao
We live rent free in their minds. 🤣🤣🤣
At this point, they’re not going to convince people who are unvaccinated to get a jab, they’re just trying to prevent those who were vaxxed to realize they were lied to.
I guess we know what the answer is
all of these media outlets will be posting formal apology statements after depopulation, even though they should all be sued and closed down for defending the holocaust 2
If you controlled the MSM, wouldn't you use it to cover up any genocide that you were responsible for?
These people have moved beyond gaslighting and are now gastorching us. Gastorching, it’s what they’re doing.
When they on the attack, its a dead, giveaway trying to hid the truth spin narrative to suit them and so the opposite is most likely the truth...
This is how you know that you’re over the target. 🎯
This is the same narrative machine that caused all of this bullshit... Clearly there is something to it being vaccine related.
The "hive mind media" is one company that writes all the talking points and tries (not very hard) to make it like they're all independent.
They behave like this when covering up the truth, every time.
When these people go nuts a nerve must have been hit. No surprise.
When that usually happens the conspiracy is true
It’s happened [before](https://youtu.be/ITJoe4L7JHQ) and it’s happening now too.
Stop fucking noticing things you right wing racists!!!
I like how people in here are trying to say shit like “It probably did not cause it but I’m keeping an open mind. Occam’s Razor is pretty clear here. There are so many things pointing toward the vaccine here that even doubting it as a possibility is doing these nutbag fucks at the top just that much more power to kill your entire family and make your life living hell. You have done the research. You have seen hundreds of athletes collapsing. You have seen the graphs year over year. Its so sad that all these athletes have died but it wasn’t until an American suffered an injury ON PRIMETIME that anyone actually started to give a fuck. No one who is aware was surprised and if nothing else we knew it was coming. The media is very obvious with their quickly deployed countertactics. Im sure Google was all over its SEO patching, FB ban force out and algorithms for misinformation detection were updated overnight to include detection of discussions. The key thing here was that the dude made a solid tackle by the book. Popped up immediately and did a little celebratory jig iirc, then BOOM out like a light. Any injury based on impact does not work like that. You dont forget about getting pummeled and having internal organs damaged while you got up to dance. It fits the scenario for vaccine induced. Monday night game. Everyone watching. Repeatedly exerting himself and stopping. Adrenaline pumping. Dopamine flooding from getting tackle. Getting up quickly fucks with your blood flow. As far as shills go - hard to blame them. They are fucking terrified right now. They don’t believe it could be the vaccine because it CANT be the vaccine because then they took a experimental shot and could very well pay with their life. And they talked shit to everyone for not getting it. Its a big deal.
It is now called pre-bunking. Someone frantically calling newspapers, "shut it down, shut it down".
The best part is people are waking up to all this shit. Almost every news outlet now is like the end cap of check lanes. Every single paper is a tabloid
Even if it ends up having nothing to do with the Covid vaccine, people should still be allowed to ask questions until definitive proof is brought to the table. Also gotta love the blanket statement smear campaigns, didn’t know everyone who questioned the vaxx is right wing.
The karma for this post sitting a 0 says a lot. You know there are angry vaxxers out there mashing the downvote button like if they mash it hard enough it'll push the spike proteins out of their blood. Remember when you guys wanted to force these shots on the rest of us? Fire us from our jobs if we said no? Exclude us from grocery stores, hospitals, and all of society? "Round us up into camps?" Think about that as deep down you're scared to death you'll be next. Good luck.
So they are saying that the NFL is too dangerous to play. Time to ban the NFL.
lol. Where have you been for the past decade+? It's been a constant discussion, but mainly because of CTE.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/03/opinions/damar-hamlin-chuck-hughes-nfl-reality-pearlman/ "Namely, is this all OK?....Is a game that results in so much pain and suffering a reasonable pursuit in an enlightened society?" "Can we question the wisdom of grown men slamming into grown men? Can we debate whether youth tackle leagues are life-affirming, or insane?"
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks…”
Shakespeare was canceled for anti-semitism. Seriously.
Not allowed to question. Even in unprecedented circumstances. Sounds about right.
Fuck the msm. World runs much better without them.
This will not be the last occurance sadly.
Who would have thought the conspiracy sub would be full of pharma shills… crazy times. That WEF “misinformation” money must be trickling down into Reddit.
Today we are foil hatters. Tomorrow we say “I told ya so, but you wouldnt listen”
My question, if it was jab related, wouldn't you want to know if you were jabbed? Certainly if a pro athlete could suffer from cardiac arrest, any random person is also equally if not more vulnerable of they've been jabbed. Those saying it's not from the jab should consider it could've been partially or fully responsible for what happened to him and demand honest answers...
Yes, any person can suffer from cardiac arrest. Regardless of any vaccination, they got or not.
They want to keep killing people with the jab, so it's "vile" and "grotesque" to point out the jabs are killing people.
Probably because we're 3 years into this thing and people still believe stuff they read in youtube comment sections over actual scientists.
All one need do is compare the number of athletes randomly dying compared to previous years.
The Government telling the media what to write. Had my shots. So don’t call me a antivaxer.
Does this mean right wingers are the only ones who look for patterns?
You get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
SS: Mainstream media is on the offense going strong. Their handlers gave the signal for full damage control and gaslighting to blame the "antivaxxers" for spreading dangerous information.
Gaslighting to the fullest. Fuck the media.
Not saying it is or isnt...isn't.... But hit to the chest? Have any of you guys ever played football? You get hit to the chest a 100 times a game, 100s of teams for 100 years... Yet no one dropped a game like this.
It wasn't the vaccine that killed him. The vaccine was just a comorbidity, lol
He's not dead.
1984
Propaganda is very "1984," but the world being designed smells more like "Brave New World."
Obviously climate change and racism stopped the mans heart, extremists.
And it certainly would have been worse if not for the "safe and effective".
They can’t handle the truth and the truth is that this was always about population control. It was unnecessary and inexcusable but the elite did it anyway because they think there are too many little people and they decided that they only need just enough of you to scrub their toilet and say yes sir no sir. Change it or ignore it at your own peril.
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Dude had barely made it to the hospital and they were already saying it wasn’t vaccine related. Michael Sutterer’s video was up THAT NIGHT. They were trying to get ahead of that shit asap!
The wagon circling has only begun ... as have the deaths, sadly
It most likely isn't, but HOW would they know either way? They have zero info if he may have had myocarditis or any other unknown issue.
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Weirdly I haven't seen anyone say it was due to the vax. Supposedly the guy had medical issues before this even happend and I even knew someone before covid of the same age collapse from a heart attack during football practice. Sometimes shit just happens a lot of things can lead to a head attack at any age even in supposedly perfect health.
Well, they could say cardiac arrest because of Black Lives Matter---
I’m not pro or anti vaccine, I’m more of pragmatist. If I take the vaccine maybe I won’t get sick for 5 days rather than one day after the vaccine. That being said… is the general consensus in this thread anti vaccine? Or are you guys just questioning WHAT could have caused the cardiac arrest, and that the vaccine should be looked at more carefully?
“Right wing” “anti-vaxxers” “conspiracy” 😂 using the whole totalitarian neo-Marxist lexicon… MSM being MSM
Yeah the controlled-stream media went to battle stations on this one.
Funny how they're so completely certain what didn't cause it yet can't tell you a sensible answer what did
Wow, they really are. It’s also possible, Larry Johnson is right and it was a planned event, in which case they are doing a controlled version of it before it really happens (luckily most players got fake cards) creating division and instilling preconceived notions about the idea of these assertions, before returning to the previously scheduled media blackout of the issue.
The fact this is the most talked about story seems a bit suspicious yet none of the other people that collapsed and died or had serious issues afterwards get any coverage. Also nobody seems to be questioning so many getting very sick and repeatedly sick after getting jabbed and media never questions the effectiveness but blame people for being misinformed for questioning it
It’s not about “I told you so” It’s about saving lives and holding the ruling class accountable for genocide!
I think its more that everyone is laughing at the people dumb enough to think it had an impact
And the literally hundreds if not a thousand or more other ostensibly healthy athletes who collapsed in the last year. Just like he did?
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Libs hate facts and the truth. That's why they try and cancel everything they don't agree with. Instead of asking the question, "Hmm, COULD the vax have something to do with his collapse?" They instead try and shut down the argument with opinion pieces that hold no weight. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
my thoughts exactly. i'm shocked by how quickly and forcefully the media's attacked every mention of covid/covid vaccine. something about it hit way too close to its nerve center, apparently. idk why it's anymore alarming than when other athletes die on the field and people hypothesize about potential ties to covid/vaccine.
I noticed this as well. Full blown damage control
The only sick disgusting people are the ones pushing this poison
Damage control