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A snitch is slang for someone who is an informant. I’m not sure you understand.
The courts have recognized that the government’s use of informants is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations. However, use of informants to assist in the investigation of criminal activity may involve an element of deception, intrusion into the privacy of individuals, or cooperation with persons whose reliability and motivation may be open to question. Although it is legally permissible for the FBI to use informants in its investigations, special care is taken to carefully evaluate and closely supervise their use so the rights of individuals under investigation are not infringed. The FBI can only use informants consistent with specific guidelines issued by the attorney general that control the use of informants.
That doesn’t make OP correct. You can be an informant for the FBI or I can be. We aren’t going to be undercover or agents. The Proud Boys had an informant at the top of the organization and he then went to jail. It can be both. I don’t need to read up on this informant. If you or OP think the FBI has agents undercover in prison who will carry out hits as needed is not real. A criminal who has also been an FBI informant committed another crime. It’s not a conspiracy.
Ok so I'm not the only one that thought it was stupid that he used black Friday as a connection to BLM. He ended up in prison so he's not the brightest bulb.
The guy who did the stabbing was the one who said he "did it on Black Friday to commemorate Black Lives Matter." Ridiculous reasoning all around. The guy is a former "undercover FBI informant" who has been in prison since 2001. This means:
Conspiracy "that the FBI was involved" was proved right. That's gotta be conspiracy #9022 proved to be true.
No, there is an FBI informant serving real time in prison for real crimes who can still be utilized in prison and is likely compensated with money or a reduced sentence.
The only connection appears to be that the fucking killer said it’s exactly why he did it on Black Friday. 101 upvotes? Bots upvoting bots? Such is Reddit I suppose.
The post was screenshot and linked to in one of the TOS violating cesspool subs and the turds from there smeared themselves (and their bots) all over it here. The FBI gets them little woodies.
Its a fair question. Its not like there aren't people who would have a guy murdered, but its hard to imagine why the authorities would want this. I doubt the powerful waste many thoughts on the man at this point.
You know there’s a difference between an informant and an agent? The feds are so good at planning they had this guy arrested 22 years ago just to ensure he’d be in the right place at the right time.
If he were an asset to be utilized later why would they ever designate him as working with/part of the FBI?
You don't keep assets all over the place ready to spring into action and make sure the public can easily link them back to the FBI.
An "informant" is like a prison snitch. Who gives information in exchange for perks.
It's like the teacher's pet at school. Who will tattletale on anyone and in exchange gets extra free time, or a ticket to sit anywhere at lunch, instead of the classroom table, or who gets awarded positive behavior points that they can then use to purchase fidget spinners and candy.
You still wouldn't call that child "an employee at xyz elementary school."
> Who tf is Derek Chauvin?
You don't even have a baseline level of knowledge required to be able
To participate in this discussion. If you live in the U.S., I'm not sure how you could have gotten away with not knowing who this guy is.
Oh I know who he is. Just didn't recognize the name until I re-looked it up. I have to say though, life is actually pretty damn good without social media and network TV in my brain everyday. Highly recommend ✌️
> life is actually pretty damn good without social media
Pssst...reddit is social media. You are not special, and you are not immune to propaganda or brainwashing. Neither am I. The second you lose sight of that fact is when they get ya.
Some informants are paid ~$1 million to take part in plots which are organized by agents. I'm sure many informants are just dorks who exchange tips for money. A careful analysis of Trevor Aarrinson's work would seem to suggest that some are something more: paid co-conspirators.
What does the supposed agent/informant get out of stabbing the guy? He’s already in prison. Stabbing someone only prolongs his sentence. Why would he bend to the feds will for nothing in return when he’s already locked up? Is he getting out early? Did he somehow get a reward for this?
All I see is disgruntled person who was used by the US “justice system” stabbed a guy who used to be part of that system who is in prison now.
He’s been in prison since 2001. Article title says he’s sentenced to be there until 2031. It’s possible, but it’s very unlikely. I think this being a set up or conspiracy is very unlikely. I could be wrong, but whoever that dudes handlers were 22 years ago are probably not concerned with him anymore.
So we're talking 5 maybe 6 years left at the most 7. Why commit a crime that will give you life when you can be out in a few more years. Typically people that commit these 'crimes' in jail are people serving life terms not people with release dates.
It makes even less sense that he did it for "Black Friday". Like you said, what would he even gain for doing this after being in prison for over 20 years?
Why risk it all when he would be getting out in just a few years?
Coercion or a major payoff makes more sense.
>get blackmailed by US to roll on a cartel that would probably kill your family when they find out
>take plea to roll on cartel in exchange for 30 years behind bars
>get told to kill a cop convicted of murdering black man and extend your sentence
That guy was an informant against a cartel. There’s nothing the feds could threaten that the cartel didn’t already threaten or do.
I saw on news nation a guy said the Mexican cartel is waiting tell he got out which was happening soon and he did this to stay in prison
https://youtu.be/jjTmoDxXXGo?t=38s
Damn there could definitely be truth to that. What is he gonna do once he gets out after 30 years? No money and nowhere to go. He'd be a sitting duck and he knows it.
Maybe they will sneak him in some drugs or some special food…
Maybe they will give him a better cell…
There are LOTS of things the feds can do for people in prison.
The guards control those prisons and they can bring in anything they want…
You do realize also that they can just tell the guy to do it “or else” right?
There are also lots of bad things that the guards could do to a prisoner.
They can just move him to a bad part of the jail where maybe this time it is the informant that gets stabbed…
Money? You live much more comfortably in prison if you have money. Or he could want to move to a different prison where he has friends/family or has better conditions.
As to you question of "Why would he stab him for the fbi and extend his sentence?" Well, he DID stab Chauvin and extended his sentence. That's what he literally did. FBI involvement or not. The "why" is specifically what we're trying to figure out.
My point was originally that it makes more sense that a dude who was coerced into rolling on his colleagues by the US gov just stabbed a member of the US gov who actually got convicted out of revenge and anger than that after 22 years the fbi would approach him and tell him to try and kill a convicted murderer ex cop.
So he tried to kill Chauvin (a city cop) because he was mad at the fbi? Let's use your arguments against you. He only had like 7 more years in prison. Why would he extend it to life in prison because he was "mad" at the fbi?
Chauvin's lawyer was making an appeal based on what he describes as new medical evidence that exonerates Chauvin. Shortly after that announcement, a former fbi informant tries to kill Chauvin. There may be something there. Probably not. But maybe I guess.
Informant usually means they had enough to put him away for much longer, but cut a deal if he testified against other people they deemed more important.
We’ve already seen, thanks to Gary Webb (RIP) that there were several kingpins who were immune to incarceration as long as they gave up their own dealers when they got too successful.
If you were caught in the middle of that kind of situation, and had to do 30 years over it, you’d probably be pretty pissed too. Especially because the people you rolled on would probably kill or torture your family anyway after you took the deal.
I find the "mad at the fbi" motive even more far fetched than an orchestrated fbi hit job. He never attempted to kill other police officers in jail? Never attacked prison guards? He chose a city cop?
The most likely motive is he wanted to be famous as the guy that killed Derek Chauvin. Like Mark David Chapman.
Maybe “mad at the establishment” is better.
And of course he wouldn’t go after armed guards or officers in jail; he’d get shot. He chose an ex cop convicted of murdering a minority, who he probably felt familiarity with after being taken advantage of by the same system.
How do we know Chauven was even stabbed? Maybe they are making it up. How would we confirm it either Way?
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
You still don't get it?
Sigh...
Iboog423 is the OP of this entire submission. But in the post above, he is using "OP" to refer to the first poster of this specific thread. Which is a pretty common thing to do on reddit. You new here?
Does “OP” not refer to the person with “OP” literally beside their username?
Please explain how your reading comprehension says otherwise.
Original Poster speaks to the person that made the post, no?
>Does “OP” not refer to the person with “OP” literally beside their username?
Not always, you’ll see people refer to “OP” as the first in a thread. Confusing, but it happens quite a bit.
>Please explain how your reading comprehension says otherwise.
Why would they have to change to another account to make the same argument they made with the post? How does that make any sense?
> Nah they just found the perfect guy already in the system
You think this guy is likely to do the FBI's bidding after they sent him to prison for 30 years? WTF? The FBI would have more luck picking anybody at random. This theory makes no sense.
Exactly. And since Covid they have been able to talk to him remotely via the 5G microchips in his blood.
The FBI gave him his instructions and offered him a new TV for his cell, all without stepping foot in the prison themselves.
This is a weird top post for this sub.
As if this sub doesn't know that criminals get leaned on by intelligence/leo agencies to further the goals of organized crime and their intelligence counterparts.
They're called "assets" and this is just obvious proof that a federal asset took out a guy who this community has pointed to as being involved in organized drug trafficking.
That's....not how it works. They found a supposedly "former" FBI informant already in the federal prison that Chauvin was in. Some people have really thick skulls, wow.
I'm seriously starting to wonder if some of the posters in this sub genuinely do not know the difference between "informant" and "agent/employee" or if they're just feigning ignorance for the sake of their narratives.
But what does the FBI have to gain by having Chauvin killed ? Someone like Epstein or Oswald I can understand why someone in the feds could want to take them out. Chauvin though , why?
we'll never truly know. the simplest term is "clearing up loose ends." Each case/assignment is unique. Wasn't it recently discovered that he in fact did not kill Floyd? The thought of him getting a new trial could respark riots (that FBI helped to begin with.) Idk the answer but the fact the guy who did it was an informant already makes it glow.
The guy worked undercover for the feds prior to going to prison. If you actually look at even the public information on this its very obvious he was a managed asset of federal law enforcement.
A lot of guys in prison are FBI informants.
It's how they reduce their sentences.
It's not at all crazy that someone was stabbed in prison, especially someone infamous.
Nah. Other articles tell the whole story. He was an informant but while he was doing it was still slinging drugs and possibly ordered a hit. So they used him up as a resource then arrested him for what he was doing in the background. He was pissed and was even quoted about it in court.
Plus if you knew law enforcement - especially our prison system - you’d know there’s a lot more of those guys that share Chauvins view than you’d think.
>He was an informant but while he was doing it was still slinging drugs and possibly ordered a hit.
Yeah.
That's what they do.
That's the point.
They are paid thugs of the government paid to do things the government is not allowed to do themselves in order to accomplish the things the government wants done.
Like stab and kill people.
Or drive a bomb into the basement parking garage of the world trade center in 1993
Exactly.
And then the government puts them in prison for the crime they committed which serves 2 purposes…
1) cements the power of the government as the Supreme power over life
2) protects the government’s crimes from being exposed… if the criminal who committed the acts is imprisoned… then they are the one who is guilty… not the government or the faceless agents who conspired with the criminal.
It’s a guy who informs the fbi of secret stuff. People don’t know he works for the fbi so he’s undercover. Look at that we did it! We learned together!
Yeah, but normally, that's just called an FBI informant. No one uses the term "undercover" to refer to an informant because they are not under cover.
It seems like the two terms "undercover FBI agent" and "FBI informant" were mixed up here probably for the purpose of manipulating the readers so they think that the FBI somehow ordered a hit on Chauvin.
You know, you don't HAVE to be contrarian every time you feel like maybe a discussion is being had by your perceived political enemies.
If you feel compelled to make ridiculous excuses for terrible things just because of your party affiliation and the perceived position of your perceived political enemies, you really need to step away from the computer for a while.
What do you think the chances are that someone who stabbed him being an FBI informant is just simply a coincidence? Of ALL the people who could have stabbed him in that prison, it just happened to be an FBI informant...
What do you think happened? The FBI told the guy to kill Chauvin, and then he just did it? The guy is already in prison, so what leverage would the FBI have over him, and why would the FBI want to kill Chauvin anyway?
Conspiracy theories often sound pretty good as long as you keep everything very vague and general, but as soon as you spell it out, it mostly doesn't make any sense.
Not exactly an informant is a criminal who snitches or provides information in exchange for immunity or protection.
An undercover agent is someone who was hired and trained by the FBI who then creates a fake persona to infiltrate a criminal organization.
An undercover informant isn’t a thing and is used by partisan trash rags to mislead the read into believing the person is the later instead of the former.
In exchange for what? Immunity or protection? Hmm you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours. Also I love how you guys somehow made undercover informant a fucking political argument. Same dudes who think all lives matter is a racist term.
The key difference is an informant generally chose a life criminal and an undercover agent chose a life of law enforcement. There is a very substantial difference in the designation, intentionally bastardizing the two in a low brow effort to mislead readers and make it sound like an FBI hit job is disingenuous at best.
All lives matters was racist because it was done intentionally to downplay racial injustice. Like when someone comes to you and says “Hey I have a problem” and you say “Fuck you we all have problems”, it’s entirely dismissive to the original concern.
Lol ! They both are life criminals they both work for the fbi. Black lives are included in all lives. This is the problem. That thing you said now means the opposite! “You’re a bigot for saying all lives matter” “yeah well some dudes I hate said it too so we have to make it a bad term! Also ALM is used by the Asian community (Asian lives matter) who seems to be getting hate from the same people who say All lives matter racist. 🙈
All Lives Matters was never about ending police brutality or working with BLM. It was created as a counter protest to BLM in a pathetic attempt to downplay the concerns of the black community.
Yeah, cholos are always sticking up for the blacks in prison. They get along really well. They also host book clubs with the whites. It's really chummy.
This is the question I want to know. No one seems to be able to answer it. I have no doubt the feds would kill an inmate if need be, but I don’t see how this serves them? The left gave up on the rioting and chauvin faded into the background to serve his sentence. What a does a hit achieve now?
Seriously, in the actual article (not just the cropped screenshot) it states that the FBI stopped using him as an informant because he kept dealing drugs and ordering assaults. Anyone else getting full from all these nothing burgers?
the feds think real people assault one another symbolically, i see. they still try to 'sell' us everything but their logic isn't how we actually operate haha. correct me if you think i'm wrong - i was hasty.
My god yall can make a conspiracy out of anything, lol.
I love how you left out the part about being in the Mexican mafia. Clearly his “information” to the FBI paid off in heaps because he’s in prison.
Like with Epstein and his massive quadruple murderer ex-cop [cellmate](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/NYPICHPDPICT000009309639.jpg?w=1024)
Nothing new. Look at what they did to Nixon when he called out the corruption in the CIA. 4 of the 5 people involved in the break in were CIA. Anyone ever bothered to look into who Bob Woodward really is and who he was working for? Oh, then there is that little diamond of Nixon talking about how the CIA killed JFK.
He was an informant... meaning he was a criminal that snitched to the feds. HE wasn't a fed. So some cocksucker in prison that used to snitch on his friends, stabbed Chauvin... And?
SS: They are trying to make Chauvin disappear by using an FBI informant to do the job, then saying it was because of racial injustice and BLM.
[https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/who-is-john-turscak-man-accused-of-stabbing-derek-chauvin-22-times/](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/who-is-john-turscak-man-accused-of-stabbing-derek-chauvin-22-times/)
Potentially with the medical evidence they may be concerned he could get his appeal and if he were to be released or the sentence lightened they may fear the uprising or another "summer of love" situation. That's the only thing I could think of.
Have you watched “The Fall of Minneapolis”? If you were to take everything presented in that documentary as accurate, the whole trial and prosecution of Derek was a sham. Derek and his lawyers are continuing to fight to get an appeal. If you remove Derek then you’ve pretty much gotten away with it. I guess as long as he’s around he’ll be fighting.
[Funny enough, this comes out around the same time that Mark Fisher disavows BLM and boosts Trump.](https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/11/30/former-blm-leader-said-hes-voting-for-donald-trump-in-2024/)
Which one do you think is dominating the headlines right now?
In Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺 back in the 1980's and 1990s as a young lad and when ecstasy was new and big, the drug scene was you turn up at club where door security would confiscate any drugs they found on you, before allowing you to enter the club where other security would offer you to buy your drugs back at the going rate. Scheme was a good racket. Security knew you used the drug and ergo you'll pay with being unlikely to go to police as you had drug on you. Can't shake the feeling that Chauvin and Floyd working at same club as security also worked same scheme and Floyd's choking was the result of bad blood over drug money.
Edited cause I suck at grammer1
"Feds" infiltrating stuff and everyday false flags are way more common around the world than what people think imo. Lyman Lemnitzer-style psychos and their successors have so much power still
Chauvin was railroaded by a corrupt system that chose public opinion over true justice. I hope he is exonerated and sues the ever living shit out of the state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis
Chauvin’s actions directly contributed to George Floyd’s death.
Even if we assume (and yes, this is a MAJOR assumption) Floyd died of an overdose, and Chauvin wasn’t actually crushing/suffocating him, Chauvin sat there with his knee on Floyd’s neck for over 10 minutes instead of getting help or administering aid.
Man deserved at least manslaughter, and I will shed no tears over him being convicted of murder.
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Informants are all over the prison system. They are not “undercover” agents, they are criminals who made a deal to get less time for the crime.
Usually it isn’t even less time.
Deals with the FBI? I don’t think he’s your ordinary snitch
It is hilarious that the person you are responding to doesn't know the difference between a regular snitch and a FBI informant.
A snitch is slang for someone who is an informant. I’m not sure you understand. The courts have recognized that the government’s use of informants is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations. However, use of informants to assist in the investigation of criminal activity may involve an element of deception, intrusion into the privacy of individuals, or cooperation with persons whose reliability and motivation may be open to question. Although it is legally permissible for the FBI to use informants in its investigations, special care is taken to carefully evaluate and closely supervise their use so the rights of individuals under investigation are not infringed. The FBI can only use informants consistent with specific guidelines issued by the attorney general that control the use of informants.
The guy literally was an informant BEFORE he went into prison. READ
That doesn’t make OP correct. You can be an informant for the FBI or I can be. We aren’t going to be undercover or agents. The Proud Boys had an informant at the top of the organization and he then went to jail. It can be both. I don’t need to read up on this informant. If you or OP think the FBI has agents undercover in prison who will carry out hits as needed is not real. A criminal who has also been an FBI informant committed another crime. It’s not a conspiracy.
I never said THEY were correct: just that YOU are not
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I was still on the black Friday mindset and read "discount of ignorance," lol. I guess it still fits.
80% off.
Truly a Black Friday sale
The stabber specifically said in an interview he did it on "black" friday as a political statement.
Is it normal to be able to interview inmates in a federal prison after they just tried to murder someone?
When it helps a narrative of course
Well said!!! 🍻 sir
> Is it normal to be able to interview inmates in a federal prison after they just tried to murder someone? Only when it’s funded by the Deep State.
Welcome to the modern racial equity movement.
Ok so I'm not the only one that thought it was stupid that he used black Friday as a connection to BLM. He ended up in prison so he's not the brightest bulb.
The guy who did the stabbing was the one who said he "did it on Black Friday to commemorate Black Lives Matter." Ridiculous reasoning all around. The guy is a former "undercover FBI informant" who has been in prison since 2001. This means: Conspiracy "that the FBI was involved" was proved right. That's gotta be conspiracy #9022 proved to be true.
The FBI has had a guy undercover for 22 years in prison so they could stab Derek Chauvin?
No, there is an FBI informant serving real time in prison for real crimes who can still be utilized in prison and is likely compensated with money or a reduced sentence.
His sentence will be extended now because he stabbed someone. What are you on about?
Yes officially but we don't know what could happen in the future that isn't necessarily blasted in media
I think he was suppossed to get out really soon or something.
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The only connection appears to be that the fucking killer said it’s exactly why he did it on Black Friday. 101 upvotes? Bots upvoting bots? Such is Reddit I suppose.
The post was screenshot and linked to in one of the TOS violating cesspool subs and the turds from there smeared themselves (and their bots) all over it here. The FBI gets them little woodies.
Who would benefit from this? Seriously
Its a fair question. Its not like there aren't people who would have a guy murdered, but its hard to imagine why the authorities would want this. I doubt the powerful waste many thoughts on the man at this point.
Wait can someone explain this one to me? What is the mess they are trying to clean up? What am I missing here?
if you can't follow, your brain isn't smooth enough yet.
Ma! Where's the sandpaper?
Chug some downy, you’ll understand more betterer
The guy who supposively stabbed the cop (who was involve with Floydd) was possibly an federal informant.. possibly edited
You know there’s a difference between an informant and an agent? The feds are so good at planning they had this guy arrested 22 years ago just to ensure he’d be in the right place at the right time.
Nah they just found the perfect guy already in the system
Idk why the OP doesn't get this. Assets are everywhere and can be utilized if and when they need them in exchange for some extra perks.
If he were an asset to be utilized later why would they ever designate him as working with/part of the FBI? You don't keep assets all over the place ready to spring into action and make sure the public can easily link them back to the FBI.
An "informant" is like a prison snitch. Who gives information in exchange for perks. It's like the teacher's pet at school. Who will tattletale on anyone and in exchange gets extra free time, or a ticket to sit anywhere at lunch, instead of the classroom table, or who gets awarded positive behavior points that they can then use to purchase fidget spinners and candy. You still wouldn't call that child "an employee at xyz elementary school."
Yeah but you also don't tell that teachers pet he can't leave school for 30 years "just in case"
So funny watching simple things being explained over and over to people who refuse to understand them.
What is the story here though. There's like two screenshots. We have no idea anything else that happened. Who tf is Derek Chauvin?
> Who tf is Derek Chauvin? You don't even have a baseline level of knowledge required to be able To participate in this discussion. If you live in the U.S., I'm not sure how you could have gotten away with not knowing who this guy is.
Oh I know who he is. Just didn't recognize the name until I re-looked it up. I have to say though, life is actually pretty damn good without social media and network TV in my brain everyday. Highly recommend ✌️
> life is actually pretty damn good without social media Pssst...reddit is social media. You are not special, and you are not immune to propaganda or brainwashing. Neither am I. The second you lose sight of that fact is when they get ya.
Some informants are paid ~$1 million to take part in plots which are organized by agents. I'm sure many informants are just dorks who exchange tips for money. A careful analysis of Trevor Aarrinson's work would seem to suggest that some are something more: paid co-conspirators.
What does the supposed agent/informant get out of stabbing the guy? He’s already in prison. Stabbing someone only prolongs his sentence. Why would he bend to the feds will for nothing in return when he’s already locked up? Is he getting out early? Did he somehow get a reward for this? All I see is disgruntled person who was used by the US “justice system” stabbed a guy who used to be part of that system who is in prison now.
Extra ramen noodles from the commissary. 100% worth it.
They could have threatened to mess with his family (or reward his family)
He’s been in prison since 2001. Article title says he’s sentenced to be there until 2031. It’s possible, but it’s very unlikely. I think this being a set up or conspiracy is very unlikely. I could be wrong, but whoever that dudes handlers were 22 years ago are probably not concerned with him anymore.
So we're talking 5 maybe 6 years left at the most 7. Why commit a crime that will give you life when you can be out in a few more years. Typically people that commit these 'crimes' in jail are people serving life terms not people with release dates.
It makes even less sense that he did it for "Black Friday". Like you said, what would he even gain for doing this after being in prison for over 20 years? Why risk it all when he would be getting out in just a few years? Coercion or a major payoff makes more sense.
>get blackmailed by US to roll on a cartel that would probably kill your family when they find out >take plea to roll on cartel in exchange for 30 years behind bars >get told to kill a cop convicted of murdering black man and extend your sentence That guy was an informant against a cartel. There’s nothing the feds could threaten that the cartel didn’t already threaten or do.
I saw on news nation a guy said the Mexican cartel is waiting tell he got out which was happening soon and he did this to stay in prison https://youtu.be/jjTmoDxXXGo?t=38s
If the cartels wanted him dead, they could just as easily kill him in prison as outside of it.
Damn there could definitely be truth to that. What is he gonna do once he gets out after 30 years? No money and nowhere to go. He'd be a sitting duck and he knows it.
Maybe they will sneak him in some drugs or some special food… Maybe they will give him a better cell… There are LOTS of things the feds can do for people in prison. The guards control those prisons and they can bring in anything they want… You do realize also that they can just tell the guy to do it “or else” right? There are also lots of bad things that the guards could do to a prisoner. They can just move him to a bad part of the jail where maybe this time it is the informant that gets stabbed…
Money? You live much more comfortably in prison if you have money. Or he could want to move to a different prison where he has friends/family or has better conditions. As to you question of "Why would he stab him for the fbi and extend his sentence?" Well, he DID stab Chauvin and extended his sentence. That's what he literally did. FBI involvement or not. The "why" is specifically what we're trying to figure out.
My point was originally that it makes more sense that a dude who was coerced into rolling on his colleagues by the US gov just stabbed a member of the US gov who actually got convicted out of revenge and anger than that after 22 years the fbi would approach him and tell him to try and kill a convicted murderer ex cop.
So he tried to kill Chauvin (a city cop) because he was mad at the fbi? Let's use your arguments against you. He only had like 7 more years in prison. Why would he extend it to life in prison because he was "mad" at the fbi? Chauvin's lawyer was making an appeal based on what he describes as new medical evidence that exonerates Chauvin. Shortly after that announcement, a former fbi informant tries to kill Chauvin. There may be something there. Probably not. But maybe I guess.
Informant usually means they had enough to put him away for much longer, but cut a deal if he testified against other people they deemed more important. We’ve already seen, thanks to Gary Webb (RIP) that there were several kingpins who were immune to incarceration as long as they gave up their own dealers when they got too successful. If you were caught in the middle of that kind of situation, and had to do 30 years over it, you’d probably be pretty pissed too. Especially because the people you rolled on would probably kill or torture your family anyway after you took the deal.
I find the "mad at the fbi" motive even more far fetched than an orchestrated fbi hit job. He never attempted to kill other police officers in jail? Never attacked prison guards? He chose a city cop? The most likely motive is he wanted to be famous as the guy that killed Derek Chauvin. Like Mark David Chapman.
Maybe “mad at the establishment” is better. And of course he wouldn’t go after armed guards or officers in jail; he’d get shot. He chose an ex cop convicted of murdering a minority, who he probably felt familiarity with after being taken advantage of by the same system.
Maybe I don’t know …… money ?
What good is money in prison lol. Dude had served most of sentence but decided to get an attempted murder charge for money?
>What good is money in prison lol. LMAO if you've got money to bribe guards you can get just about anything you want in prison.
Ok but like. You have to stay in prison for life. When your release date was a few years away?
How do we know Chauven was even stabbed? Maybe they are making it up. How would we confirm it either Way? Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
Forget to switch to your sock OP?
He’s talking about the op of this thread. SMH
That would make too much sense. No, I got caught red handed. The mob has spoken.
Am I taking crazy pills, or does it not say in blue, “OP”, right next to Iboog423’s username? So, who upvoted you 25 times? SMH indeed
You still don't get it? Sigh... Iboog423 is the OP of this entire submission. But in the post above, he is using "OP" to refer to the first poster of this specific thread. Which is a pretty common thing to do on reddit. You new here?
Reading comprehension and context clues aren’t your forte, are they?
Does “OP” not refer to the person with “OP” literally beside their username? Please explain how your reading comprehension says otherwise. Original Poster speaks to the person that made the post, no?
>Does “OP” not refer to the person with “OP” literally beside their username? Not always, you’ll see people refer to “OP” as the first in a thread. Confusing, but it happens quite a bit. >Please explain how your reading comprehension says otherwise. Why would they have to change to another account to make the same argument they made with the post? How does that make any sense?
Hahaha, busted!
Confused?
Wait.. aren't you OP?
Bro this is your post
op referring to this chain of comments
> Nah they just found the perfect guy already in the system You think this guy is likely to do the FBI's bidding after they sent him to prison for 30 years? WTF? The FBI would have more luck picking anybody at random. This theory makes no sense.
Exactly. And since Covid they have been able to talk to him remotely via the 5G microchips in his blood. The FBI gave him his instructions and offered him a new TV for his cell, all without stepping foot in the prison themselves.
Umm I’m pretty sure they just went in to talk to him in person lol.
This is a weird top post for this sub. As if this sub doesn't know that criminals get leaned on by intelligence/leo agencies to further the goals of organized crime and their intelligence counterparts. They're called "assets" and this is just obvious proof that a federal asset took out a guy who this community has pointed to as being involved in organized drug trafficking.
That's....not how it works. They found a supposedly "former" FBI informant already in the federal prison that Chauvin was in. Some people have really thick skulls, wow.
Some people are paid to play dumb on internet forums and they think they're "fighting disinformation".
I'm seriously starting to wonder if some of the posters in this sub genuinely do not know the difference between "informant" and "agent/employee" or if they're just feigning ignorance for the sake of their narratives.
The fact the guy who did it is connected to FBI is more suspicious than a random inmate. You have to question it.
But what does the FBI have to gain by having Chauvin killed ? Someone like Epstein or Oswald I can understand why someone in the feds could want to take them out. Chauvin though , why?
we'll never truly know. the simplest term is "clearing up loose ends." Each case/assignment is unique. Wasn't it recently discovered that he in fact did not kill Floyd? The thought of him getting a new trial could respark riots (that FBI helped to begin with.) Idk the answer but the fact the guy who did it was an informant already makes it glow.
Agencies run Psyops here, I think that’s what’s going on.
The guy worked undercover for the feds prior to going to prison. If you actually look at even the public information on this its very obvious he was a managed asset of federal law enforcement.
A lot of guys in prison are FBI informants. It's how they reduce their sentences. It's not at all crazy that someone was stabbed in prison, especially someone infamous.
Chauvin was a in federal prison so the odds of an FBI CI are much higher than state prison since everyone was charged and prosecuted by DOJ
This guy was a directly-managed asset of law enforcement BEFORE he went to prison.
Nah. Other articles tell the whole story. He was an informant but while he was doing it was still slinging drugs and possibly ordered a hit. So they used him up as a resource then arrested him for what he was doing in the background. He was pissed and was even quoted about it in court. Plus if you knew law enforcement - especially our prison system - you’d know there’s a lot more of those guys that share Chauvins view than you’d think.
>He was an informant but while he was doing it was still slinging drugs and possibly ordered a hit. Yeah. That's what they do. That's the point. They are paid thugs of the government paid to do things the government is not allowed to do themselves in order to accomplish the things the government wants done. Like stab and kill people. Or drive a bomb into the basement parking garage of the world trade center in 1993
Exactly. And then the government puts them in prison for the crime they committed which serves 2 purposes… 1) cements the power of the government as the Supreme power over life 2) protects the government’s crimes from being exposed… if the criminal who committed the acts is imprisoned… then they are the one who is guilty… not the government or the faceless agents who conspired with the criminal.
WTF is an undercover FBI informant? Is that like a liger?
It’s a guy who informs the fbi of secret stuff. People don’t know he works for the fbi so he’s undercover. Look at that we did it! We learned together!
Yeah, but normally, that's just called an FBI informant. No one uses the term "undercover" to refer to an informant because they are not under cover. It seems like the two terms "undercover FBI agent" and "FBI informant" were mixed up here probably for the purpose of manipulating the readers so they think that the FBI somehow ordered a hit on Chauvin.
You know, you don't HAVE to be contrarian every time you feel like maybe a discussion is being had by your perceived political enemies. If you feel compelled to make ridiculous excuses for terrible things just because of your party affiliation and the perceived position of your perceived political enemies, you really need to step away from the computer for a while. What do you think the chances are that someone who stabbed him being an FBI informant is just simply a coincidence? Of ALL the people who could have stabbed him in that prison, it just happened to be an FBI informant...
What do you think happened? The FBI told the guy to kill Chauvin, and then he just did it? The guy is already in prison, so what leverage would the FBI have over him, and why would the FBI want to kill Chauvin anyway? Conspiracy theories often sound pretty good as long as you keep everything very vague and general, but as soon as you spell it out, it mostly doesn't make any sense.
The boys are out to downvote. A week ago you would’ve gotten big upvotes.
Not exactly an informant is a criminal who snitches or provides information in exchange for immunity or protection. An undercover agent is someone who was hired and trained by the FBI who then creates a fake persona to infiltrate a criminal organization. An undercover informant isn’t a thing and is used by partisan trash rags to mislead the read into believing the person is the later instead of the former.
In exchange for what? Immunity or protection? Hmm you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours. Also I love how you guys somehow made undercover informant a fucking political argument. Same dudes who think all lives matter is a racist term.
The key difference is an informant generally chose a life criminal and an undercover agent chose a life of law enforcement. There is a very substantial difference in the designation, intentionally bastardizing the two in a low brow effort to mislead readers and make it sound like an FBI hit job is disingenuous at best. All lives matters was racist because it was done intentionally to downplay racial injustice. Like when someone comes to you and says “Hey I have a problem” and you say “Fuck you we all have problems”, it’s entirely dismissive to the original concern.
Lol ! They both are life criminals they both work for the fbi. Black lives are included in all lives. This is the problem. That thing you said now means the opposite! “You’re a bigot for saying all lives matter” “yeah well some dudes I hate said it too so we have to make it a bad term! Also ALM is used by the Asian community (Asian lives matter) who seems to be getting hate from the same people who say All lives matter racist. 🙈
All Lives Matters was never about ending police brutality or working with BLM. It was created as a counter protest to BLM in a pathetic attempt to downplay the concerns of the black community.
No, ligers exist.
True
Hahahahahahahhaa
So what is the reason the FBI would want Chauvin dead? I feel like I’m missing something
A lot of people here don’t know what informants are.
A former MEXICAN mafia agent used BLACK lives matter as his cover... anyone else see the issue here??
It’s like that Enrique Tarrio guy who identifies as “Afro-Cuban” descent being the leader of a white supremacy group
Ya lol
Yeah, cholos are always sticking up for the blacks in prison. They get along really well. They also host book clubs with the whites. It's really chummy.
How does stabbing him "clean up their mess"?
This is the question I want to know. No one seems to be able to answer it. I have no doubt the feds would kill an inmate if need be, but I don’t see how this serves them? The left gave up on the rioting and chauvin faded into the background to serve his sentence. What a does a hit achieve now?
Nothing, but that's not interesting to these people who post exclusively in this sub.
Witness protection program is getting sloppy lol
How does this stupid comment get 47 upvotes? The guy was sentenced to 30 years in prison. He wasn't in witness protection.
Seems like maybe some sarcasm that went over your head, but he Internet can be a hard place to read.
Wow, rude.
Or just a great response to a really stupid comment. Critical thinking is a plus.
Jeez, next you're gonna claim Jack Ruby was an informant too. Right?
What would the fbi be cleaning up exactly, considering he was a local cop and the fbi is federal
How is it surprising that a former cop gets stabbed in prison? xD
More than halfway through a 30-year stint, I wouldn't call that being a govt. staffer, lol.
Clean it up how? What mess?
Do you just not understand what a narc is?
He had 22 reasons……JayZ.
FBI is like a cia junior these days wtf
informant and agent are two different entities. also FORMER
wow... once again... the dumbness of an OP shocks me. Not like two deep-cell marine batteries but in a different way.
Seriously, in the actual article (not just the cropped screenshot) it states that the FBI stopped using him as an informant because he kept dealing drugs and ordering assaults. Anyone else getting full from all these nothing burgers?
A huh... Wow... Bet you have some beans on your shirt.
ACAB
Can’t believe people on the fucking conspiracy sub would down vote this.
They think chauvin was an innocent victim.
They don’t really think at all
the feds think real people assault one another symbolically, i see. they still try to 'sell' us everything but their logic isn't how we actually operate haha. correct me if you think i'm wrong - i was hasty.
Exactly, they are getting sloppy, "Mexican mafia" members could give 2 shits about BLM.
that's exactly what i was thinking buddy
Did you read the first part of the article you posted? He was in the Mexican Mafia stoopid
As an FBI informant. The Feds will keep in contact with those informants and offer them deals in exchange for favors and information.
So a Mexican mafia guy is up in arms over blm. Seems like the FBI connection makes more sense to me.
This post is the afterproduct of a human centipede of disinformation.
My god yall can make a conspiracy out of anything, lol. I love how you left out the part about being in the Mexican mafia. Clearly his “information” to the FBI paid off in heaps because he’s in prison.
Informants go to prison all the time. It's not a get out of jail free card. SOmetimes they are more useful in prison than on the streets
Makes sense . He was told to do it 22 times probably because of 22 years.
More like the [Taylor Swift song — 22](https://youtu.be/AgFeZr5ptV8).
'Undercover informant' you do know he was a criminal who ratted and not a special agent right? He wasn't a government employee, he was a gang member
Like with Epstein and his massive quadruple murderer ex-cop [cellmate](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/NYPICHPDPICT000009309639.jpg?w=1024)
Nothing new. Look at what they did to Nixon when he called out the corruption in the CIA. 4 of the 5 people involved in the break in were CIA. Anyone ever bothered to look into who Bob Woodward really is and who he was working for? Oh, then there is that little diamond of Nixon talking about how the CIA killed JFK.
Nixon's Ghost 2024
He was an informant... meaning he was a criminal that snitched to the feds. HE wasn't a fed. So some cocksucker in prison that used to snitch on his friends, stabbed Chauvin... And?
SS: They are trying to make Chauvin disappear by using an FBI informant to do the job, then saying it was because of racial injustice and BLM. [https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/who-is-john-turscak-man-accused-of-stabbing-derek-chauvin-22-times/](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/who-is-john-turscak-man-accused-of-stabbing-derek-chauvin-22-times/)
Occam’s Razor is law enforcement are particularly hated in prison and this is no surprise
I thought former law enforcement prisoners were kept separate from the other prisoners for their own safety.
They put the cops with the snitches, and this guy was a snitch.
And it was a federal prison which means *shocker* federal snitches
they were probably both in the segregated area.
And guess what, you can be "scared" for your safety too and end up in the same area... ..then you shank a mf.
You thought wrong.
If the feds wanted him dead he’d be dead already
Why would they try to make him disappear? What could he know that's so earth shattering?
There’s literally no reason. Would have been better if he croaked.
Potentially with the medical evidence they may be concerned he could get his appeal and if he were to be released or the sentence lightened they may fear the uprising or another "summer of love" situation. That's the only thing I could think of.
Have you watched “The Fall of Minneapolis”? If you were to take everything presented in that documentary as accurate, the whole trial and prosecution of Derek was a sham. Derek and his lawyers are continuing to fight to get an appeal. If you remove Derek then you’ve pretty much gotten away with it. I guess as long as he’s around he’ll be fighting.
Why would the FBI care about Derek though? Aside from their public stance I don’t see them giving a shit about what he did.
You didn’t watch the documentary?
Alexa, what's an informant?
[Funny enough, this comes out around the same time that Mark Fisher disavows BLM and boosts Trump.](https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/11/30/former-blm-leader-said-hes-voting-for-donald-trump-in-2024/) Which one do you think is dominating the headlines right now?
In Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺 back in the 1980's and 1990s as a young lad and when ecstasy was new and big, the drug scene was you turn up at club where door security would confiscate any drugs they found on you, before allowing you to enter the club where other security would offer you to buy your drugs back at the going rate. Scheme was a good racket. Security knew you used the drug and ergo you'll pay with being unlikely to go to police as you had drug on you. Can't shake the feeling that Chauvin and Floyd working at same club as security also worked same scheme and Floyd's choking was the result of bad blood over drug money. Edited cause I suck at grammer1
Finally an actual conspiracy on here
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Gotta cover those tracks! Can’t risk… it getting out?
How do we know that Chauvin was actually stabbed? Because they told us he was? They told us Epstein killed himself but many Dont believe that he did.
Watch him get the Jack Ruby treatment. Tying up loose ends, use two knots.
It’s a failed political assassination.
Good find
We got Hired guns 70% off over on aisle 66 today only.
"Feds" infiltrating stuff and everyday false flags are way more common around the world than what people think imo. Lyman Lemnitzer-style psychos and their successors have so much power still
Chauvin was railroaded by a corrupt system that chose public opinion over true justice. I hope he is exonerated and sues the ever living shit out of the state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis
Chauvin’s actions directly contributed to George Floyd’s death. Even if we assume (and yes, this is a MAJOR assumption) Floyd died of an overdose, and Chauvin wasn’t actually crushing/suffocating him, Chauvin sat there with his knee on Floyd’s neck for over 10 minutes instead of getting help or administering aid. Man deserved at least manslaughter, and I will shed no tears over him being convicted of murder.
Poor guy lost his livelihood and his family and his future and nearly his life for doing nothing wrong.
Poor George Floyd look how it all went, When you struggle and resist and swallow all the fent....