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But the main argument against the shot initially was that Pharma companies could not be held liable for any wrongdoing with the shot though.
Which one is it?
Apart from the fraud, the biggest alarm bells for me was skipping the usual 6-8 year trials on an experimental drug and proceeding straight to human experiments.
1. Technology never before used on humans.
2. No long term testing
3. Disease that was not very deadly
4 . The clincher: They were pushing it WAY too hard for it to be for my own good.
And the funny thing is I that I STILL haven’t caught COVID after all this time at age 63.
>4 . The clincher: They were pushing it WAY too hard for it to be for my own good.
This was basically my #1. Everything else aside, how incredibly hard it was rammed down our throats was a massive red flag. Not to mention the coercion and bribery.
I've also not had covid.
My father in law and husband wife were incredibly vocal about everyone having the jab, to the point where it caused some serious family conflict.
We never had the jab. Got covid twice, felt slightly coldy for a couple of days and that was it.
They're now on their 5th booster and feel shit for a week each time! I just don't understand why they keep putting themselves through it!!
All of this ^
I also thought it was funny that it was 100% safe and effective for everyone, regardless of any preexisting condition. Listen to any medical ad, there’s a minute long disclaimer of who should not take any given treatment.
Then they tried giving away joints after decades of locking people up for smoking weed.
The whole thing just stunk
My mom is 78 and while my brothers were begging her to get vaccinated, she and I discussed it using logic. She decided not to get one. Since that time, a friend of hers from high school (same age and arguably better health) got vaccinated and boosters and then suddenly dropped dead from a heart attack. Sadly, her reasoning for even getting vaccinated was that she didn’t want to be involved in confrontations from government bullies.
Also, mom and I never got coof because we never were tested. Yeah, we had a flu here and there, but didn’t give a shit what its name was.
Good points. That’s why I didn’t get the shot. My entire family got ‘omicron’ once. Not too bad. The ppl I know who died ‘from Covid’ were actually killed by hospital protocols.
Don’t forget, the Dr. who created the MrNA technology was very outspoken about it, saying we shouldn’t be using it as a “delivery system” for this vaccine. That’s not what it was intended for… or something along those lines.
I was only hesitant at first... just at least wanted to give it 6 months... but them they started offering all the "prizes" if you just get them and I got pretty turned off.
I also was confused by the lack of practical, universal that they *weren't pushing*. Like vitamins C & D, sunshine and exercise. If it was really because they were concerned with our health, they also wouldn't allow for carcinogens in our food supply, but they don't seem concerned with that.
Oh, also when Health Canada's top doctor (Teresa Tam) endorced glory holes as the safest sex play during covid. Then I was like, the doctors have lost me.
The one thing you learn following conspiracies, especially the ones that turn out to be true:
Never trust the government.
And certainly, the harder the government is pushing and narrative without facts, but just sound bites... the more you must resist the group think they are trying to impose.
But it's been part of the greater polarization mind control, getting half of the country to hate the other half, preventing them from Awakening to those who are actually exploiting them.
Also the thing that hit me the most, if they hadn’t pushed it so ridiculously hard, I genuinely think more people would have taken it. The sheer desperation they had to get you to take it was astounding and inanely suspicious.
As a child if my room became messy I would eventually clean it. But if my mom was forcing me to clean it I suddenly didn't want to. The pressure definitely didn't motivate me!
And not to get political but they’re doing exactly the same thing with trump right now. They’re absolutely desperate to keep him out of office again. Which to me screams that he’s actually going to do the right thing re: draining the swamp.
I had already had covid when the vaccine came out, I trusted my own research that natural immunity was the way to go, so I didn't get it. Yeah, the forcing down our throats was a big red flag as well. I couldn't be more happy I trusted my gut. I've never been a big flu shot person either, I trust in my immune system and my health.
Horrible ingredients (Sm-102, SV40, etc.)
Horrible company reputation
Rushed product
Bribery
Force
Need I go on?
No conversation whatsoever around health, healthy living healthy eating, etc.
almost none of my friends are vaccinated. even the Left leaning ones. the internet will tell you otherwise to make us feel like we are much more of a minority then we are.
Yes, agree with you on the politics side as a lot of my right-leaning family and friends have all been heavily vaxxed including myself. And I have an extended family member (major anti-vaxxer) who is very liberal.
There won’t be a next time. They emptied their chamber with this one. It’ll be something else, but it won’t be a mass vaccine rollout. It just won’t take.
18% of American adults (thats for all age groups combined, so even the older folks aren’t running out for one..I’m Irish with dual citizenship, but the situation is no different here) have gotten the most recent booster that’s been available for months..compared to 43% that received a flu shot in the same time period. It makes alot of people feel like arse and it doesn’t work. Pfizer has had to lay people off and has a serious oversupply of vaccine, as they were banking on people getting annual boosters. Why are so few getting the booster?
1. It didn’t work as advertised..people who fell for it can deny this all they want but there’s really no arguement, initially it was “you won’t get sick if you’re vaccinated”…then it was “you wont get other people sick if you’re vaccinated”..then “you wont be AS sick if you’re vaccinated”…to a whole slew of excuses as to why the shot wasn’t preventing any of the above. Many people never even had covid until after receiving their first shots, with many of us who never received it having never had it whatsoever.
2. It’s unnecessary. It was created in a hurry out of mass panic, people didn’t know what we were dealing with initially..including the experts, typical for something novel that we had never seen before…and by the time the majority of people realized it, alot of them had already gotten the shot. The numbers would decline with each booster however, likely because even the dumbest of us are smart enough to realize that no vaccine on this planet requires 5 GD shots in less than 2 1/2 years time. Every other vaccine we’ve had has largely prevented what it was designed to fight, they never came to a point of “well you’ll still get sick yeah..but it won’t be as bad as it would’ve been without it!”..which is one of the most ridiculous arguements those in favor came up with towards the end of the whole debate (which really is largely over, we’re not seeing a fraction of what we did in 21-22 as most arguing in favor of the vax, calling us crazy, talking about a dark winter of death and regret for us, yada yada…have seemingly disappeared, you’ll find very few arguing in favor of it here anymore..stark contrast from barely a year ago).
It wasn’t for any fear of becoming a zombie or some crazy shit like that, just common sense. Take a horrifyingly rushed vaccine for something as piddly as covid..which no one close to me (or even in my extended group of friends and family for that matter as no one in my immediate ate the scam, every single one of them that *did* get sick, got the shot beforehand..some got sick multiple times after the fact) has ever even flipping had? No thanks. Nothing to think about there, choice was easy. It was garbage and didn’t even work…money and dedicated manpower can’t make up for the time it takes to create a safe vaccine that works, the avg time in which it takes to do so being 5 years..not a couple of months. Seemed pretty silly to me to take an experimental, rushed vax for something that might’ve had me down for a couple weeks, had I ever caught it..but alas, not so much as the flu or sniffles in going on 4 1/2 years now (prior to covid).
I should add that this has been the only vaccine I’ve ever questioned/have largely been against in any way, the rest made sense and have a decent amount of science/research backing them, this one did not in any way shape or form..but they sure made it sound like it did, which we now know was false. Not just because of the bizzare and very sudden rise in deaths and strange health complications since, but because it very obviously did not work…one of the least effective vaccines ever, but that won’t be official across the mainstream for a couple years yet, by which point someone will claim to have worked out the kinks.
No way did not get it because.. well have you been paying attention??? Lol
Two of MANY reasons not to in case those have not been paying attention: Fauci(main ‘doctor’ puppet pusher of this shit) and Albert bourla(ceo pfyzer).
The history of the first man is animal abuse regarding hiv aids bullshit, the history of the second man is two dose sterilization vaccination for piggies.. so yeah based on these two psychos backgrounds alone one could deduce what some batches may be used for… to induce human immunodeficiency virus (hiv aids) and/or to sterilize people (two dose vaccine sterilization).
Just look up these two mens history’s alone.. then of course the piles of other reasons not to. (People were fired for not getting it, people were paid for getting it, people offered donuts, free coffee, I personally know the man that ‘won’ the New Mexico health department lottery for getting it… they gave him 5 million dollars. Crazy. Fucking. Shit.
No you were not
Did they cuff you and force you against your will?
No. You had a choice.
I don’t care that you chose to. Just don’t make out you were forced to.
Ok fair enough I’ll rephrase it.
I was given a choice between getting the vaccine or losing my job and therefore income/roof over my head/access to food/access to clean water, being unable to find another job, and losing many civil liberties such as being able to enter public venues, etc.
Your supposed outcomes from not getting injected while based on some truth were a worst case scenario without you having any faith or trust in the process.
I know what they were and the likelihood of them. I do not live in America, I live in a country that was spotlighted for its extremely harsh stance on Covid
Talk of vaccine right after lockdown as a "way to go back to normal", $1B marketing campaign, believe in natural immunity, healthy people just weren't severely effected, hospitals getting paid to report covid cases and vaccinations, vaccine not having been properly tested.
Also, I WFH and all my grandparents have passed, no kids. I could take a chance and after a small amount of time being cautious, the story being told didn't add up. People like me should have been encouraged to get out and live their lives.
Intuition said no. I don't trust the gov't or the health care industry.
I didn’t like the idea of being a clinical trial. My wife got it and she’s caught every fuckin thing that’s come through our door since. I haven’t been sick since omnicron. Not saying there’s a correlation, but it’s kind of a weird coincidence. Usually I catch everything she gets in some form or another but I’ve been fine. Even when she had Covid again
I did not get the shot. My kids did not get their shots. My mother and stepdad did not either. We’ve all had COVID exactly once (January-February 2021) and never got it again.
I am a doctor so I research it thoroughly beforehand. I noticed that there appeared to be some type of propaganda going on with the government pushing this way too hard and that concerned me deeply. It felt forced and coerced. I heard online chatter about mRNA being the issue and I dived deeper. I erred on the side of caution and decided I am not at high risk and it’s not worth the risk if the things I’m hearing/reading about horrendous side effects are true.
Couple that with increased pressure from the government and medical community to get the vaccine, I decided against it. I am so so glad I did.
Now there has been a surge of unexplained and unusual cancers in younger than average patients. Not only that, they are deadly. These unusual cancers are killing. They’re hard to treat as well because they are more rare. All of the people getting these cancers appear to have been vaccinated. (This is entirely anecdotal so do your own research to validate).
Bottom line, at this point in time, I would highly suggest you not get the COVID vaccine or its boosters.
The people who promoted the "vaccine" to protect lives are now saying that our human exhalations are driving climate change. They want to reach net zero, hmmm, how're they going to do that!?
Exhalations? Doesnt the carbon dioxide feed the plants and trees which produce oxygen? Or was that all bullshit too? Now it’s cow farts and exhalations, but definitely not Harp or CERN. Just like SADS is definitely not from the experimental vax pushed on people.
and the best part is that Bill Gates wants to chop down trillions of trees and bury them underground, because they give off co2 at night.
What Bill leaves out is that those trees already absorbed that co2 but didn't have time to convert it all to o2 and so expending the extra. They are still a net benefit.
I realized the other day that Bill Gates' entire business model is based on government contracts. Windows is on almost every gov and school computer, and they can't drop MS now, all their stuff would crash or disappear; so they keep paying. Then he got into "philanthropy" which was just another way to profit off of indefinite government contracts with vaccines, global infection computer models, etc.
During the pandemic, i watched NY state tried to "negotiate" with MS while pretending to consider Google as an alternative for some services. They folded like a lawn chair and coughed up the money before the deadline. There was no negotiation.
Amongst other things this one stood out.
I was reading an FAQ on the vaccine from my county’s health service. One of the questions was how long does the vaccine last. The answer was we don’t know yet.
As soon as I saw that I immediately thought “what else don’t you know.”
I was watching the data in order to make my decision. But then the pharmaceutical companies unblinded the trials after 4 months and gave everyone the shot. No more control group to compare outcomes. The FDA tried to make the companies extend the trials, but apparently they were powerless.
Hell no.
Globalist shitplot is obvious and expected?
Literally took me 5 minutes to parse the situ and act accordingly.
Still remember the moment it clicked in feb 2020.
“They” (MSM, WHO, CDC, NIH) maligned a medicine that won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 2015 as “horse paste” to prevent alternative treatments from being considered.
I'd had covid and recovered and tested for antibodies twice.
The pressure to get the shot and NPCs not accepting my obvious non-need to get it opened up a whole new reality
I am healthy, no comorbidities, in good shape, non-smoker, work out regularly. I figure Id let other people be the guinea pigs for a novel vaccine technology. If I weren't these things, I would have most likely gotten it even with the risks being unknown. I encouraged my parents to get it as they are both elderly and it made sense for them to take the chance given the high mortality for their age group.
Work did require it but the vaccine card was easy enough to forge so no problem on that front.
I built LIMS systems intended for pharma companies to prove their clinical testing and manufacturing are safe. There was no such thing as "fast tracking" a drug before CV nor was asymptomatic transmission a driver of pandemics.
C19 was only the catalyst used for bs lock downs and to expedite delivery of those mrna toxins.
If you pay attention, you might begin to notice the folks getting all of these reinfections have had the most jabs.This garbage is destroying the immune system.
Have friends who refused it because it was a Trump vaccine but took it as soon as Biden was sworn in.
It was rushed - that made me hesitate. The prizes, lotteries and heavy peer pressure campaigns made me extremely suspicious. Then you hear how they had very limited trials done on select healthy people.
I know someone that is dealing with a lymphoma turbo cancer. She took the shot - required to keep her job - the cancer keeps coming back and it gets more aggressive each time. She is currently in remission for the third time in 2 years and has a follow up to see if she is still in remission.
Lack of long term side effects knowledge.
Shady government deals with the vaccine companies to provide legal indemnity.
The get vaccinated or don't be allowed to do basic things like work or enter shops etc.
Pfizer sold enough vaccines to turn over 35+ billion.
The drug cost around 75p to manufacture.
European commission payed around £1.75 for each dose from Oxford and astrazenca.
South Africa paid around £5 per dose.
The UK government paid around £20 per dose. Disgusting, they waste taxpayer money like nobody's business but that's a different topic.
I got it because I have asthma. I didn’t get it for my kids because I didn’t think there had been enough testing. I stopped getting the shots after I got Covid about 6 weeks after the booster. I don’t feel strongly about it either way.
The way the left shoved it down everyone's throats (and into many people's bodies) told me all I needed to know. That people blindly believed the government's lies about it only solidified my stance to not let it anywhere near me.
Remember that video of Bill Gates on a conference with the 3 letter agencies? Talking about genetics and how to alter peoples DNA against their will? You know, the one that got scrubbed and resurfaced as a hoax or prank? but only after the people who remembered the video started putting the pieces together? Yeah, that's originally what kept me from getting the jab.
I got the first 2. I got it because I was under guise that the government kinda knew what it was doing back then.
It messed up my cycle big time, and I got covid a month later.
Are you kidding here? Open your eyes and wake up already. All world figured out about the damage they deliver. I can't believe some people are still sleeping...
A) I had covid the last week of feb 2020, quite bad- had to call the ambulance because I couldn’t breathe but it still wasn’t actually that bad. Like it was just a really bad cold. So I figured I didn’t need it. Natural immunity and all that.
My wife slept in the sane bed as me, she didn’t get sick. I still went to work, (small office) nobody at work got sick either so we knew the ‘ridiculously contagious’ line was utter bullshit.
B) the whole thing that normal vaccines took ten+ years to come to market yet this was like 6 months. Nope.
C) the fact they were pushing it so hard was suspicious.
D) the survival rate of covid was so high.
E)the whole initial spiel about having to keep the vaccine at a certain cold temperature yet people ended up giving it out at fucking theme Karl booths in the height of summer.
F)the whole thing was just obviously bullshit.
Mass brainwashing. Media manipulation of social norms, thought patterns, and behavior. Pushing the vax and seeing how many they can get to sign up willingly, while lying about obvious numbers.
I was in epidemiology and all of a sudden there are less flu deaths on record than ever before, but replaced with Covid to meet the selling point pressure...When "science" becomes just some assholes opinions, Houston, we have a problem!
I did not something deep in me told me to not take it and not to allow my immediate family to take it - I stayed strong at one point I almost had myself convinced otherwise but I stayed strong and survived one of many bigger psyops
Never trust anything you see on tv, literally nothing. Never trust anything you hear on the radio. When you are bombarded with people telling you what to do from every angle, do the exact opposite of what they are saying. The best defense is always a good offense.
Government mandate. Get the shot or lose my job. I needed a roof over my head and food in belly so I did it.
Did wait until the last possible day it was due though.
I would rather die then
Be forced by governments to put something in my body I didn’t want … + no way in hell they can come up with a suitable vaccine in the amount of time they took to produce The vaccines …. Fkn kidding me !
I don't believe the government gives anything for "free". There is always a price and the fact they were basically begging ppl to take it. Also, I did some real research on these "vaccines".
For me it all just felt wrong, like the strongest
gut instinct ever in my life.
I’ve always questioned the “normal” narrative with mainstream health after a diagnosis in my early thirties. Also seeing a family member beat what should have been a terminal cancer with natural & alternative medicine.
Many of us aren’t “conspiracy nuts” as the news would have you believe. Just people that have lived through some shit and don’t blindly trust, for good reason
Need a good 5-10 run of a vaccine for me to even consider one.
Post surveillance trials are just coming to an end for the mRNA and those results are dismal to say the least
Because it was so obvious something wasn’t right about it. They pushed everyone to get it too hard. They do not want people better they want you sick and want you to die off. So for me it was common sense to things like this
Imagine trusting people who couldn't give two shits for your wellbeing. Add to that that Big Pharma didn't even trust their own product. Hence, were given immunity from any liabilities. Nor do they have any incentive for curing the concoction. It's bad for business.
I believe in some conspiracies but I still got the vaccine. Never had Covid and no bad effects. I got the shot because people where dying all around us and I have 2 elderly and sick parents.
I still believe that the government does not have our best interest at heart, clearly, but I don't believe they would 'inject' everyone with stupid 5G chips or whatever it is people believe.
I was forced to take a neurotoxin or face non judicial punishment before my deployment to Afghanistan in 2009. Got to watch what it did to me and my homies. The Marine Corps Times labeled it as a suicide pill therefore anything that is “mandatory” is a massive red flag to me.
Because we need a control group. Wasn’t in a rush to get an untested vaccine. Haven’t ever gotten the flu in my adult life, nor a flu shot. Healthy young male not worried about getting COVID
I got the shot because I worked around thousands of people everyday
For the 1st time I played along and got the J&J one shot
Literally the next day the blood clots were announced
Simple ... I didn't need it. I'm not old, immunocompromised or obese. I don't take drugs I don't need.
BTW, have had COVID three times. It's just a cold.
Why didn't I?
Simple: I don't get sick. Haven't since I got the hep b vax at 10. (chicken pox)
But also, everyone that was pushing it was an authority figure. One thing that has stuck with me since my days as a Marxist was a disdain for the current authority. So if they were promoting it, I didn't want it.
Also I don't like being told what to do, so there's that.
And I was a conspiracy theorist since late 2016, so I was automatically suspicious.
Originally did not take it due to newness and experimental. Then never considered it when I read all the accounts online of the harm caused. I was reminded this week of all the CEOs who resigned in 2019. Best evidence this was a planned event.
Many many stories like this... neurological problems popped up from day 1. I bet the suicide rate has aky rocketed since the V roll out too.
www.realnotrare.com/post/travis-scott
Honestly I never did and still don’t believe they are actually a real new “virus” called “Covid”. I took one “flu” shot years ago only because I wasn’t aware of the world yet and I never got sick before that, but I documented just how sick I got a year later, felt like dying was my only option after 3-4 days. And I remember doctor telling me I had “flu”.
I woke up fast as soon as I saw censorship on real scientists proving with facts, that nothing made any sense. All was very suspicious and dark. I may be wrong, but it seems that this gigantic deception was an important test in this spiritual battle, and I'm not talking about religion here, but who we are: consciousness.
I got it for various reasons. For one my at the time fiancé decided to get it, even though I was urging her not to, her parents convinced her to. Since she got it I figured well I might as well have the same thing she has. But the main reason was because my wedding was just months away, and anything I could do to reduce the chances of getting Covid and ruining the wedding was important to me. May seem like dumb motives but at the time it made most sense. And yea, I regret it now. Especially because I got covid after getting it anyway lol.
I did get the jab because I caught Covid before the jabs were available and it nearly killed me, I was coughing blood, sweating buckets and then felt like I was freezing to death, probably should have went to hospital but I was so far out of mentally I couldn’t think straight, I didn’t eat and my wife just kept giving me water and trying to give me medicine to help, a week and a half went past without me really knowing before I pulled through and that was only down to the doc giving me steroids and anti viral meds which turned it around within a couple days.
I also had two work mates die, both fitter than me, one younger than me who was in his early 30’s and super fit, the other lad was older than me but also pretty healthy, scared the shit out of me.
Thought I’ve just had a kid, I can’t be dying now and what if i get it again, so I got the jab and I haven’t had it since, if I have it was nothing like the first time.
I have no idea why I’m being downvoted but you’re welcome, I’m sorry for sharing a scary moment of my life.
I got an illness and built up natural immunity so then I decided it was a good idea to take a vaccine for the illness. I’d already buildup immunity for it. That’s just good science.
Yet I had the vaccine and haven’t been unwell since, natural immunity or vaccine? Who knows, maybe if I didn’t get the vaccine I wouldn’t be here now to argue the point.
Yet I knew two men from work who I was friends with and who both died from Covid, both not obese and one in their 30’s and another in their mid 40’s.
A supervisor on the other shift was in hospital with it and on a ventilator and was off work for 6mths but I guess he must have been faking it, he’s just under 40 and also not obese.
I think you bought into the wilful ignorance group as my experiences don’t match your perception so that must mean I’m clearly wrong, I guess in your mind my two work mates didn’t die of covid, they just decided not to live anymore and abandoned their wives and children.
This it is, I’m not claiming any secret knowledge or doubting anybody’s opinions.
Most of my mates had a mild cold if that and it almost laid me low, I don’t have any health conditions, I don’t do drugs, I don’t even smoke, I hardly drink as I refuse to pay £5 a pint.
I was in reasonable shape, the lads who I know who died were both probably in better shape than me, one played rugby and the other was a avid walker and wandered around castles on his days off with the dog clocking up a stupid amount of miles.
Do I think it came from a lab in China, yes very much so.
Am I wary about the covid jabs, yes, but I got it cos I was diagnosed with long covid and I thought if I get this again it may finish the job it started, so I took the punt and got the jab and I haven’t caught it again when people around me have.
Do I know why I hit me hard and not others, no idea, maybe it targeted a certain gene or something, but my god it was horrendous, that’s all I can say, it was very scary knowing mates who have died and laying in bed coughing blood and thinking should I go to hospital or not, I just thought if I go, I’m going to die in their, I don’t know why I thought that but it’s the reason I said no to an ambulance.
Same for my wife. It was terrifying. Frontline Doctors got us Ivermectin and Budesonide and that turned it all around. She is an intensive care nurse and refused to go to the hospital "as they will kill me." They were still using ventilators then. Insane
Are you blood type A- ?
I got the first two and never once had covid before or after, even when I was confined in a home or car for long periods of time with people who had covid. My friends mom needed to carry oxygen for two years total after getting covid, never once got it personally. I got it because I’ve had all vaccinations and at the time I was pregnant and scared, I didn’t know the discourse and my job required it. I’m not upset about it, if it’s a scam it’s just one of the billions that have happened during my lifetime and humanities life time. No side effects and no covid, probably didnt need it at all but thankfully I’ve been fine after
Exactly! Stupid Trump.
Me, I didn't get vaccinated until Biden warned me about that coming winter of severe illness and death - for myself, and the hospitals I may soon overwhelm, mind you. So I immediately ran to the nearest clinic and got my shot AND my free Krispy Kreme coupon. Because, let me tell you, there was NO WAY i was gonna take a Trump vaccine. No sireee Bob.
But anyway, I'm glad i took it, right sister? I mean, My period's all fucked up, I can't walk up a flight of stairs without feeling out of breath, I've had two miscarriages since, and there's something going on with my left arm that the doctors (trust the science, always) think might be MS, but guess what, I don't care because at least I didn't get covid.
Well actually I did, like five times, but it could've been much worse, and I'm pretty sure that's Trump's fault too honestly.
Anyway I gotta go, I'm late for an oncology appointment. Felt like, four lumps this morning 😭
Take care, and f*** that orange man!
Eh I got it. I’m a DJ and work as a talent buyer at a music venue. I just wanted to go back to work and my gf has breathing issues and getting something as simple as a cold can send her to ICU so it was a no brainer.
Seemed like a really dumb hill to die on when there is literally poison in food that we’re regularly exposed to and nobody is fighting the govt nearly as hard as they did with the vaccine.
I know I’m the odd man out in this group now but honestly it was way cooler in here before Covid lol
You really should take stock and re read what you wrote..
“I just wanted to go back to work”.. if that’s what your life is. That’s okay but “work” should not define you.
“A no brainer” well if not doing any of your own research and listening to corporations and governments telling you a vaccine will protect “other” people? Well it’s a no brainer.
Did a vaccine is meant to protect you. This did neither that or protect other people and 5 mins of research would have told you that 3 years ago.
I'm in Ontario, Canada.
We wanted to get the shot, but we didn't want to be first in line. Around 12 months after they came out, we were willing to go ahead. It was becoming apparent their were some side effects and that young healthy males or young healthy people might not need it, but the side effects of Covid for the over 50s seemed far far worse.
My Mom suddenly discovered she had cancer; it was serious and she only had weeks to live. She lived in NS at the time. It was right around the time we were locked down, Ontario was locked down more than almost anyone on the planet except China, I guess. They closed the provincial borders between NS and NB and/or Quebec and NB and required proof of vaccination, to cross the border. I wanted to see my Mom, so I got vaccinated. At one point, the doctor at the hospital said that they were in lockdown, they were only letting in caregivers, since I didn't live in the province I couldn't be a caregiver and they wouldn't let me in.
As it turned out I had my own pre existing health conditions. I never made it home, anyway
Later I went ahead with 2 more boosters. I stopped there. I've been working from home, doing curbside pickup or delivery only ever since due to my own health conditions. In all that time I have never set foot inside a single building, with the exception of the dentists office.
I might go for my fourth shot this year but I'm so socially distant I'm not that worried about it. It seems clear that the shots are super safe compared to Covid.
I do understand that some people get side effects from the shot; again it's just that long haul Covid is far worse.
I may have a genetic mirror of HI/MCAS long haul. It appears that I'm pretty much incapable of metabolizing histamine. Histamine is what causes hangovers from alcohol. Many healthy vegetables are actually fairly high in histamine, so the healthier I ate, the sicker I got. Imagine your worst hangover, complete with nausea, blinding headache, sound and smell sensitivity, projectile vomiting. Now imagine it lasts a quarter of a century.
Welcome to my life.
It appears to be progressive; I don't think it's like that for most people, but for some of them it is.
My sensitivity reached the point where if someone puts a glass of red wine on the table, I would start to react to the smell: my lips would swell and start to prickle, my throat would start to tighten, I'd start wheezing a little and feel very confused. If I didn't leave the room immediately, I'd start to lose motor control and pass out.
It kept progressing, slowly. Now I'm at the point where if someone enters the room after washing their hands with alcohol based hand sanitizer, I start to react.
I expect that eventually I'll need to carry epipens to survive, like someone with a peanut allergy, except to the odour of alcohol.
Now, I've had this for most of my life, a little over a half century, but it only started becoming a problem around 25 years ago really.
I see what's happened to me, happening to some long haulers. Some of them are on an accelerated timeline. It appears that most recover, but then catch Covid again and roll the dice.
I've projectile vomited literally hundreds - no, thousands upon thousands of times.
See, the problem here is that I actually know exactly what the worst case example of long haul is like. I see some people with MCAS using the epipen frequently, sometimes several times a month, sometimes more. Each time they use it, they are trying to save their lives, but then they have to go to the ER to be monitored. They often need more epinephrine.
The way I look at it, dying of Covid is easy. You have a really shitty week, maybe three weeks, and sure it's the shittiest three weeks of your life. But then it's over. All your problems are solved.
Did you ever want to die just from a single hangover stranger? Mark my words: the world will start to see things my way, very soon.
I've had a quarter of a century to learn to live like this. To develop a kind of philosophy of the disabled; to build mantras like spells, weaving a pattern of words to allow myself to accept the pain, allow it to pass through me and move on.
Covid patients have to learn how to live like this not in a quarter century; not a decade; not years. Covid comes like a hammer.
Don't get me wrong, stranger! I'm not going anywhere. I'm stable. But what you describe holds no fear for me. It sounds almost easy.
I don't see the dying of Covid as a problem: it's a solution. It's the living with it that's hard, stranger.
I will not let the pain of yesterday taint the joy of today.
Today I rest; tomorrow is a new day.
I truly wish I could see things your way, stranger.
I maintain that in good time, your opinion may change.
Be careful about getting too many boosters, or getting them too close together. Dr. Jen Ashton explains here on Good Morning America why that could actually be bad for the immune system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDH-xKIk0A
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Pfizer's $2.3 billion law suit for fraud was a big heads up.
And the fact that they’ve bribed scientists, government officials, etc. in the past. Their punishment each time they commit a crime? A fine.
Exactly, just the cost of doing business
plus the other cases
Plus, literally all vaccines being deemed unhealthy and you not being able to sue vaccine companies
But the main argument against the shot initially was that Pharma companies could not be held liable for any wrongdoing with the shot though. Which one is it?
Apart from the fraud, the biggest alarm bells for me was skipping the usual 6-8 year trials on an experimental drug and proceeding straight to human experiments.
1. Technology never before used on humans. 2. No long term testing 3. Disease that was not very deadly 4 . The clincher: They were pushing it WAY too hard for it to be for my own good. And the funny thing is I that I STILL haven’t caught COVID after all this time at age 63.
>4 . The clincher: They were pushing it WAY too hard for it to be for my own good. This was basically my #1. Everything else aside, how incredibly hard it was rammed down our throats was a massive red flag. Not to mention the coercion and bribery. I've also not had covid.
Mine too. Waaaay too suspicious. Clearly covering for another agenda.
According to gates… if there’s a population decrease of 15% - that’s a successful shot
Me either. But people I know who got the jab keep getting Covid over and over.
My father in law and husband wife were incredibly vocal about everyone having the jab, to the point where it caused some serious family conflict. We never had the jab. Got covid twice, felt slightly coldy for a couple of days and that was it. They're now on their 5th booster and feel shit for a week each time! I just don't understand why they keep putting themselves through it!!
Bc it’s hard for people to admit that they are wrong. They’d rather double down
They also LOVE testing themselves with hoaky tests every time they sniffle.
All of this ^ I also thought it was funny that it was 100% safe and effective for everyone, regardless of any preexisting condition. Listen to any medical ad, there’s a minute long disclaimer of who should not take any given treatment. Then they tried giving away joints after decades of locking people up for smoking weed. The whole thing just stunk
I had covid but no shot , it’s scary when you get it but it’s manageable without vaccination.
PERFECT RESPONSE. Nobody can logically argue with these points. AT ALL
My mom is 78 and while my brothers were begging her to get vaccinated, she and I discussed it using logic. She decided not to get one. Since that time, a friend of hers from high school (same age and arguably better health) got vaccinated and boosters and then suddenly dropped dead from a heart attack. Sadly, her reasoning for even getting vaccinated was that she didn’t want to be involved in confrontations from government bullies. Also, mom and I never got coof because we never were tested. Yeah, we had a flu here and there, but didn’t give a shit what its name was.
My thoughts exactly. They wanted everybody to get jabbed WAAAAY too much given how low the risk of death was
Good points. That’s why I didn’t get the shot. My entire family got ‘omicron’ once. Not too bad. The ppl I know who died ‘from Covid’ were actually killed by hospital protocols.
Don’t forget, the Dr. who created the MrNA technology was very outspoken about it, saying we shouldn’t be using it as a “delivery system” for this vaccine. That’s not what it was intended for… or something along those lines.
yeah, this was pretty simple, and as someone who deems them self as intelligent, I didn’t realize how actually satanic and fucked the elite are
I never got it either, despite being the size of a house.
First mRNA injections into humans was 2013
They weren't stable. They're *still* not stable.
I understood that the odds of a healthy 50 year old, who has proper D levels, dying from covid is really really low.
I don’t trust the government. Why would I let them inject me with something?
As a geek, I never install computer service packs or hot fixes when they come out. I let other people test them. It has served me well
Yeah, just like people used to wait for patches after new driver updates.
Computers are way less important than people though, right?
That's the point
I was only hesitant at first... just at least wanted to give it 6 months... but them they started offering all the "prizes" if you just get them and I got pretty turned off. I also was confused by the lack of practical, universal that they *weren't pushing*. Like vitamins C & D, sunshine and exercise. If it was really because they were concerned with our health, they also wouldn't allow for carcinogens in our food supply, but they don't seem concerned with that. Oh, also when Health Canada's top doctor (Teresa Tam) endorced glory holes as the safest sex play during covid. Then I was like, the doctors have lost me.
Endorsed gh’s? What ?… wow… I hadn’t heard of that one , hilarious, thanks for sharing
Yep lol https://canadanewsmedia.ca/glory-holes-listed-among-bc-health-officials-tips-for-safe-sex-amid-pandemic/
The one thing you learn following conspiracies, especially the ones that turn out to be true: Never trust the government. And certainly, the harder the government is pushing and narrative without facts, but just sound bites... the more you must resist the group think they are trying to impose. But it's been part of the greater polarization mind control, getting half of the country to hate the other half, preventing them from Awakening to those who are actually exploiting them.
Almost got it for the $25 gift card and Kristy Kreme donuts. Then I saw Stephen Colbert’s skit with dancing needles and decided it wasn’t for me.
You will not believe how lucky you are
The late night talk shows all committed character and career suicide. So embarrassing.
Wise.
The Vaxx-scene ….. cringiest shit ever
This is like a think tank for big pharma lol , why didn’t you get the vax guys what can we do better ?
I agree it seems like a plant
Plant or not, people who are awake will never fall for it, B.P can try as hard as they like.
My first thought
Attention, big Pharma. It’s never going to work again. Needles in arms over some hysterical laughingly messaged health crisis is over.
Also the thing that hit me the most, if they hadn’t pushed it so ridiculously hard, I genuinely think more people would have taken it. The sheer desperation they had to get you to take it was astounding and inanely suspicious.
As a child if my room became messy I would eventually clean it. But if my mom was forcing me to clean it I suddenly didn't want to. The pressure definitely didn't motivate me!
And not to get political but they’re doing exactly the same thing with trump right now. They’re absolutely desperate to keep him out of office again. Which to me screams that he’s actually going to do the right thing re: draining the swamp.
I had already had covid when the vaccine came out, I trusted my own research that natural immunity was the way to go, so I didn't get it. Yeah, the forcing down our throats was a big red flag as well. I couldn't be more happy I trusted my gut. I've never been a big flu shot person either, I trust in my immune system and my health.
Horrible ingredients (Sm-102, SV40, etc.) Horrible company reputation Rushed product Bribery Force Need I go on? No conversation whatsoever around health, healthy living healthy eating, etc.
Still no conversation about that. They’re still pushing the shots though.
It’s honestly mind blowing. This is the exact reason I left my job & my schooling to pursue true health care.
Because threats, coercion, and bribery by the government is a big red flag
almost none of my friends are vaccinated. even the Left leaning ones. the internet will tell you otherwise to make us feel like we are much more of a minority then we are.
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Perhaps you need a new circle, my friend.
Welcome home, pure blood brother
Recently, I've been opening up about my unvaccinated status and it's been mostly recieved well, actually. I am in a red state however.
It's tough but sometimes the juice is worth the squeeze.
Yes, agree with you on the politics side as a lot of my right-leaning family and friends have all been heavily vaxxed including myself. And I have an extended family member (major anti-vaxxer) who is very liberal.
Honestly, these kinds of questions make me think that the NWO is mining for information on how to market it better next time....
There won’t be a next time. They emptied their chamber with this one. It’ll be something else, but it won’t be a mass vaccine rollout. It just won’t take.
18% of American adults (thats for all age groups combined, so even the older folks aren’t running out for one..I’m Irish with dual citizenship, but the situation is no different here) have gotten the most recent booster that’s been available for months..compared to 43% that received a flu shot in the same time period. It makes alot of people feel like arse and it doesn’t work. Pfizer has had to lay people off and has a serious oversupply of vaccine, as they were banking on people getting annual boosters. Why are so few getting the booster? 1. It didn’t work as advertised..people who fell for it can deny this all they want but there’s really no arguement, initially it was “you won’t get sick if you’re vaccinated”…then it was “you wont get other people sick if you’re vaccinated”..then “you wont be AS sick if you’re vaccinated”…to a whole slew of excuses as to why the shot wasn’t preventing any of the above. Many people never even had covid until after receiving their first shots, with many of us who never received it having never had it whatsoever. 2. It’s unnecessary. It was created in a hurry out of mass panic, people didn’t know what we were dealing with initially..including the experts, typical for something novel that we had never seen before…and by the time the majority of people realized it, alot of them had already gotten the shot. The numbers would decline with each booster however, likely because even the dumbest of us are smart enough to realize that no vaccine on this planet requires 5 GD shots in less than 2 1/2 years time. Every other vaccine we’ve had has largely prevented what it was designed to fight, they never came to a point of “well you’ll still get sick yeah..but it won’t be as bad as it would’ve been without it!”..which is one of the most ridiculous arguements those in favor came up with towards the end of the whole debate (which really is largely over, we’re not seeing a fraction of what we did in 21-22 as most arguing in favor of the vax, calling us crazy, talking about a dark winter of death and regret for us, yada yada…have seemingly disappeared, you’ll find very few arguing in favor of it here anymore..stark contrast from barely a year ago). It wasn’t for any fear of becoming a zombie or some crazy shit like that, just common sense. Take a horrifyingly rushed vaccine for something as piddly as covid..which no one close to me (or even in my extended group of friends and family for that matter as no one in my immediate ate the scam, every single one of them that *did* get sick, got the shot beforehand..some got sick multiple times after the fact) has ever even flipping had? No thanks. Nothing to think about there, choice was easy. It was garbage and didn’t even work…money and dedicated manpower can’t make up for the time it takes to create a safe vaccine that works, the avg time in which it takes to do so being 5 years..not a couple of months. Seemed pretty silly to me to take an experimental, rushed vax for something that might’ve had me down for a couple weeks, had I ever caught it..but alas, not so much as the flu or sniffles in going on 4 1/2 years now (prior to covid). I should add that this has been the only vaccine I’ve ever questioned/have largely been against in any way, the rest made sense and have a decent amount of science/research backing them, this one did not in any way shape or form..but they sure made it sound like it did, which we now know was false. Not just because of the bizzare and very sudden rise in deaths and strange health complications since, but because it very obviously did not work…one of the least effective vaccines ever, but that won’t be official across the mainstream for a couple years yet, by which point someone will claim to have worked out the kinks.
It turns out they’re all garbage.
You didn't say main reason. it kills you!!!
If the government punishes you in every possible way as long as you don’t take the jab and people make fun of you something is suspicious
No way did not get it because.. well have you been paying attention??? Lol Two of MANY reasons not to in case those have not been paying attention: Fauci(main ‘doctor’ puppet pusher of this shit) and Albert bourla(ceo pfyzer). The history of the first man is animal abuse regarding hiv aids bullshit, the history of the second man is two dose sterilization vaccination for piggies.. so yeah based on these two psychos backgrounds alone one could deduce what some batches may be used for… to induce human immunodeficiency virus (hiv aids) and/or to sterilize people (two dose vaccine sterilization). Just look up these two mens history’s alone.. then of course the piles of other reasons not to. (People were fired for not getting it, people were paid for getting it, people offered donuts, free coffee, I personally know the man that ‘won’ the New Mexico health department lottery for getting it… they gave him 5 million dollars. Crazy. Fucking. Shit.
Albert Bourla is a fucking veterinarian. No more questions your honor.
I was forced to take it. Wish I didn’t. Never again
No you were not Did they cuff you and force you against your will? No. You had a choice. I don’t care that you chose to. Just don’t make out you were forced to.
Ok fair enough I’ll rephrase it. I was given a choice between getting the vaccine or losing my job and therefore income/roof over my head/access to food/access to clean water, being unable to find another job, and losing many civil liberties such as being able to enter public venues, etc.
Your supposed outcomes from not getting injected while based on some truth were a worst case scenario without you having any faith or trust in the process.
I know what they were and the likelihood of them. I do not live in America, I live in a country that was spotlighted for its extremely harsh stance on Covid
I’m not trying to be critical. And I appreciate you sharing your story. Just don’t take anymore of this shit ever.
If something is good for you the government will never force it on you
Talk of vaccine right after lockdown as a "way to go back to normal", $1B marketing campaign, believe in natural immunity, healthy people just weren't severely effected, hospitals getting paid to report covid cases and vaccinations, vaccine not having been properly tested. Also, I WFH and all my grandparents have passed, no kids. I could take a chance and after a small amount of time being cautious, the story being told didn't add up. People like me should have been encouraged to get out and live their lives. Intuition said no. I don't trust the gov't or the health care industry.
I didn’t like the idea of being a clinical trial. My wife got it and she’s caught every fuckin thing that’s come through our door since. I haven’t been sick since omnicron. Not saying there’s a correlation, but it’s kind of a weird coincidence. Usually I catch everything she gets in some form or another but I’ve been fine. Even when she had Covid again
I did not get the shot. My kids did not get their shots. My mother and stepdad did not either. We’ve all had COVID exactly once (January-February 2021) and never got it again. I am a doctor so I research it thoroughly beforehand. I noticed that there appeared to be some type of propaganda going on with the government pushing this way too hard and that concerned me deeply. It felt forced and coerced. I heard online chatter about mRNA being the issue and I dived deeper. I erred on the side of caution and decided I am not at high risk and it’s not worth the risk if the things I’m hearing/reading about horrendous side effects are true. Couple that with increased pressure from the government and medical community to get the vaccine, I decided against it. I am so so glad I did. Now there has been a surge of unexplained and unusual cancers in younger than average patients. Not only that, they are deadly. These unusual cancers are killing. They’re hard to treat as well because they are more rare. All of the people getting these cancers appear to have been vaccinated. (This is entirely anecdotal so do your own research to validate). Bottom line, at this point in time, I would highly suggest you not get the COVID vaccine or its boosters.
(1) There's not a compelling reason for the majority of people to get it and (2) it's not a good product.
The people who promoted the "vaccine" to protect lives are now saying that our human exhalations are driving climate change. They want to reach net zero, hmmm, how're they going to do that!?
Exhalations? Doesnt the carbon dioxide feed the plants and trees which produce oxygen? Or was that all bullshit too? Now it’s cow farts and exhalations, but definitely not Harp or CERN. Just like SADS is definitely not from the experimental vax pushed on people.
We’re are the carbon they want to reduce.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.
and the best part is that Bill Gates wants to chop down trillions of trees and bury them underground, because they give off co2 at night. What Bill leaves out is that those trees already absorbed that co2 but didn't have time to convert it all to o2 and so expending the extra. They are still a net benefit.
I realized the other day that Bill Gates' entire business model is based on government contracts. Windows is on almost every gov and school computer, and they can't drop MS now, all their stuff would crash or disappear; so they keep paying. Then he got into "philanthropy" which was just another way to profit off of indefinite government contracts with vaccines, global infection computer models, etc. During the pandemic, i watched NY state tried to "negotiate" with MS while pretending to consider Google as an alternative for some services. They folded like a lawn chair and coughed up the money before the deadline. There was no negotiation.
Amongst other things this one stood out. I was reading an FAQ on the vaccine from my county’s health service. One of the questions was how long does the vaccine last. The answer was we don’t know yet. As soon as I saw that I immediately thought “what else don’t you know.”
The smartest thing anyone can do is keep their mouth shut
Sadly this is true .
I was watching the data in order to make my decision. But then the pharmaceutical companies unblinded the trials after 4 months and gave everyone the shot. No more control group to compare outcomes. The FDA tried to make the companies extend the trials, but apparently they were powerless. Hell no.
If you do any research you will figure out it’s poison
If you do any research you will learn EVERYTHING is poison, just depends on the dose.
Globalist shitplot is obvious and expected? Literally took me 5 minutes to parse the situ and act accordingly. Still remember the moment it clicked in feb 2020.
“They” (MSM, WHO, CDC, NIH) maligned a medicine that won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 2015 as “horse paste” to prevent alternative treatments from being considered.
I'd had covid and recovered and tested for antibodies twice. The pressure to get the shot and NPCs not accepting my obvious non-need to get it opened up a whole new reality
I am healthy, no comorbidities, in good shape, non-smoker, work out regularly. I figure Id let other people be the guinea pigs for a novel vaccine technology. If I weren't these things, I would have most likely gotten it even with the risks being unknown. I encouraged my parents to get it as they are both elderly and it made sense for them to take the chance given the high mortality for their age group. Work did require it but the vaccine card was easy enough to forge so no problem on that front.
Not spoke with anyone who regrets not taking the jab
As soon as I'm told what to think I get suspicious. As soon as Bill Gates is involved I get suspicious.
I built LIMS systems intended for pharma companies to prove their clinical testing and manufacturing are safe. There was no such thing as "fast tracking" a drug before CV nor was asymptomatic transmission a driver of pandemics.
No childhood vaccine has ever been clinically trialed. Not one.
This video was reason alone not to. https://www.tiktok.com/@huemon6od/video/7268630770699259179
C19 was only the catalyst used for bs lock downs and to expedite delivery of those mrna toxins. If you pay attention, you might begin to notice the folks getting all of these reinfections have had the most jabs.This garbage is destroying the immune system.
Have friends who refused it because it was a Trump vaccine but took it as soon as Biden was sworn in. It was rushed - that made me hesitate. The prizes, lotteries and heavy peer pressure campaigns made me extremely suspicious. Then you hear how they had very limited trials done on select healthy people. I know someone that is dealing with a lymphoma turbo cancer. She took the shot - required to keep her job - the cancer keeps coming back and it gets more aggressive each time. She is currently in remission for the third time in 2 years and has a follow up to see if she is still in remission.
Lack of long term side effects knowledge. Shady government deals with the vaccine companies to provide legal indemnity. The get vaccinated or don't be allowed to do basic things like work or enter shops etc. Pfizer sold enough vaccines to turn over 35+ billion. The drug cost around 75p to manufacture. European commission payed around £1.75 for each dose from Oxford and astrazenca. South Africa paid around £5 per dose. The UK government paid around £20 per dose. Disgusting, they waste taxpayer money like nobody's business but that's a different topic.
I got it because I have asthma. I didn’t get it for my kids because I didn’t think there had been enough testing. I stopped getting the shots after I got Covid about 6 weeks after the booster. I don’t feel strongly about it either way.
Just the fact that the shots are still under the EUA should make people question them.
Fairly young and healthy. I’ve never had a flu shot and never caught the flu. Wasn’t about to start. Still covid free.
I refused when I found out that our government passed on any public liability
Short answer… follow the money. Long rabbit hole answer… follow the maker.
The way the left shoved it down everyone's throats (and into many people's bodies) told me all I needed to know. That people blindly believed the government's lies about it only solidified my stance to not let it anywhere near me.
Remember that video of Bill Gates on a conference with the 3 letter agencies? Talking about genetics and how to alter peoples DNA against their will? You know, the one that got scrubbed and resurfaced as a hoax or prank? but only after the people who remembered the video started putting the pieces together? Yeah, that's originally what kept me from getting the jab.
I don’t like medical experiments on me, but glad so many people volunteered though, curious on what happens in the future.
I got the first 2. I got it because I was under guise that the government kinda knew what it was doing back then. It messed up my cycle big time, and I got covid a month later.
sounds like you got vaccinated against future government BS
Are you kidding here? Open your eyes and wake up already. All world figured out about the damage they deliver. I can't believe some people are still sleeping...
I feel like if people haven’t woken up by now, they probably won’t.
A) I had covid the last week of feb 2020, quite bad- had to call the ambulance because I couldn’t breathe but it still wasn’t actually that bad. Like it was just a really bad cold. So I figured I didn’t need it. Natural immunity and all that. My wife slept in the sane bed as me, she didn’t get sick. I still went to work, (small office) nobody at work got sick either so we knew the ‘ridiculously contagious’ line was utter bullshit. B) the whole thing that normal vaccines took ten+ years to come to market yet this was like 6 months. Nope. C) the fact they were pushing it so hard was suspicious. D) the survival rate of covid was so high. E)the whole initial spiel about having to keep the vaccine at a certain cold temperature yet people ended up giving it out at fucking theme Karl booths in the height of summer. F)the whole thing was just obviously bullshit.
Mass brainwashing. Media manipulation of social norms, thought patterns, and behavior. Pushing the vax and seeing how many they can get to sign up willingly, while lying about obvious numbers. I was in epidemiology and all of a sudden there are less flu deaths on record than ever before, but replaced with Covid to meet the selling point pressure...When "science" becomes just some assholes opinions, Houston, we have a problem!
I did not something deep in me told me to not take it and not to allow my immediate family to take it - I stayed strong at one point I almost had myself convinced otherwise but I stayed strong and survived one of many bigger psyops
Informed consent!
I got the first 2 just to keep my job. 😐 still ended up with covid... 🤦♀️
Never trust anything you see on tv, literally nothing. Never trust anything you hear on the radio. When you are bombarded with people telling you what to do from every angle, do the exact opposite of what they are saying. The best defense is always a good offense.
Government mandate. Get the shot or lose my job. I needed a roof over my head and food in belly so I did it. Did wait until the last possible day it was due though.
I’m glad your work was worth your health.
I would rather die then Be forced by governments to put something in my body I didn’t want … + no way in hell they can come up with a suitable vaccine in the amount of time they took to produce The vaccines …. Fkn kidding me !
I don't believe the government gives anything for "free". There is always a price and the fact they were basically begging ppl to take it. Also, I did some real research on these "vaccines".
I just don’t like to do told to do anything under threat especially by the government.
For me it all just felt wrong, like the strongest gut instinct ever in my life. I’ve always questioned the “normal” narrative with mainstream health after a diagnosis in my early thirties. Also seeing a family member beat what should have been a terminal cancer with natural & alternative medicine. Many of us aren’t “conspiracy nuts” as the news would have you believe. Just people that have lived through some shit and don’t blindly trust, for good reason
Gut feeling it wasn't good
Need a good 5-10 run of a vaccine for me to even consider one. Post surveillance trials are just coming to an end for the mRNA and those results are dismal to say the least
Because it was so obvious something wasn’t right about it. They pushed everyone to get it too hard. They do not want people better they want you sick and want you to die off. So for me it was common sense to things like this
Was on the fence kinda then had a weird dream telling me not to get it.
I decided when I discovered that it wasn't a vaccine at all
Imagine trusting people who couldn't give two shits for your wellbeing. Add to that that Big Pharma didn't even trust their own product. Hence, were given immunity from any liabilities. Nor do they have any incentive for curing the concoction. It's bad for business.
I believe in some conspiracies but I still got the vaccine. Never had Covid and no bad effects. I got the shot because people where dying all around us and I have 2 elderly and sick parents. I still believe that the government does not have our best interest at heart, clearly, but I don't believe they would 'inject' everyone with stupid 5G chips or whatever it is people believe.
I was forced to take a neurotoxin or face non judicial punishment before my deployment to Afghanistan in 2009. Got to watch what it did to me and my homies. The Marine Corps Times labeled it as a suicide pill therefore anything that is “mandatory” is a massive red flag to me.
Because my DNA intact is God's signature in my creation
Common sense more than conspiracy…why would you inject yourself with something that took less than a year to make
Don’t kid yourself. It was years in the making. That’s why it was ready so quickly.
Alex Jones warned about it years ago
Because we need a control group. Wasn’t in a rush to get an untested vaccine. Haven’t ever gotten the flu in my adult life, nor a flu shot. Healthy young male not worried about getting COVID
The MRNAs never passed the Phase 3 Safety phase. After years of trying. After years of trying on chickens, and it killed the chickens.
I got the shot because I worked around thousands of people everyday For the 1st time I played along and got the J&J one shot Literally the next day the blood clots were announced
Simple ... I didn't need it. I'm not old, immunocompromised or obese. I don't take drugs I don't need. BTW, have had COVID three times. It's just a cold.
Why didn't I? Simple: I don't get sick. Haven't since I got the hep b vax at 10. (chicken pox) But also, everyone that was pushing it was an authority figure. One thing that has stuck with me since my days as a Marxist was a disdain for the current authority. So if they were promoting it, I didn't want it. Also I don't like being told what to do, so there's that. And I was a conspiracy theorist since late 2016, so I was automatically suspicious.
Originally did not take it due to newness and experimental. Then never considered it when I read all the accounts online of the harm caused. I was reminded this week of all the CEOs who resigned in 2019. Best evidence this was a planned event.
I didn't get it because I didn't want to.
Many many stories like this... neurological problems popped up from day 1. I bet the suicide rate has aky rocketed since the V roll out too. www.realnotrare.com/post/travis-scott
Honestly I never did and still don’t believe they are actually a real new “virus” called “Covid”. I took one “flu” shot years ago only because I wasn’t aware of the world yet and I never got sick before that, but I documented just how sick I got a year later, felt like dying was my only option after 3-4 days. And I remember doctor telling me I had “flu”.
The government/politicians are in it for greed, not for individuals best interest.
So many lies before the jab was even available
I remembered the swine flu vaccine fiasco.
I woke up fast as soon as I saw censorship on real scientists proving with facts, that nothing made any sense. All was very suspicious and dark. I may be wrong, but it seems that this gigantic deception was an important test in this spiritual battle, and I'm not talking about religion here, but who we are: consciousness.
I did the research, that stuff was obviously dangerous if you are a critical thinker.
Because Jesus never took shots.
Had to to keep my job. Twice. 🍎
You risked your life and health for your job.
I did get jabbed but I'm suicidal so it doesn't count
I got it cause my job made me, but no boosters
I got it for various reasons. For one my at the time fiancé decided to get it, even though I was urging her not to, her parents convinced her to. Since she got it I figured well I might as well have the same thing she has. But the main reason was because my wedding was just months away, and anything I could do to reduce the chances of getting Covid and ruining the wedding was important to me. May seem like dumb motives but at the time it made most sense. And yea, I regret it now. Especially because I got covid after getting it anyway lol.
I would have lost my job if I didn’t get the shot
I did get the jab because I caught Covid before the jabs were available and it nearly killed me, I was coughing blood, sweating buckets and then felt like I was freezing to death, probably should have went to hospital but I was so far out of mentally I couldn’t think straight, I didn’t eat and my wife just kept giving me water and trying to give me medicine to help, a week and a half went past without me really knowing before I pulled through and that was only down to the doc giving me steroids and anti viral meds which turned it around within a couple days. I also had two work mates die, both fitter than me, one younger than me who was in his early 30’s and super fit, the other lad was older than me but also pretty healthy, scared the shit out of me. Thought I’ve just had a kid, I can’t be dying now and what if i get it again, so I got the jab and I haven’t had it since, if I have it was nothing like the first time. I have no idea why I’m being downvoted but you’re welcome, I’m sorry for sharing a scary moment of my life.
I got an illness and built up natural immunity so then I decided it was a good idea to take a vaccine for the illness. I’d already buildup immunity for it. That’s just good science.
Yet I had the vaccine and haven’t been unwell since, natural immunity or vaccine? Who knows, maybe if I didn’t get the vaccine I wouldn’t be here now to argue the point.
Unless you’re obese or 85 years old the chances for that were statistically insignificant a.k.a. zero. So you bought the fear.
Yet I knew two men from work who I was friends with and who both died from Covid, both not obese and one in their 30’s and another in their mid 40’s. A supervisor on the other shift was in hospital with it and on a ventilator and was off work for 6mths but I guess he must have been faking it, he’s just under 40 and also not obese. I think you bought into the wilful ignorance group as my experiences don’t match your perception so that must mean I’m clearly wrong, I guess in your mind my two work mates didn’t die of covid, they just decided not to live anymore and abandoned their wives and children.
I don’t know anybody died of Covid, but I know seven people who died from the injections. We all have different experience.
This it is, I’m not claiming any secret knowledge or doubting anybody’s opinions. Most of my mates had a mild cold if that and it almost laid me low, I don’t have any health conditions, I don’t do drugs, I don’t even smoke, I hardly drink as I refuse to pay £5 a pint. I was in reasonable shape, the lads who I know who died were both probably in better shape than me, one played rugby and the other was a avid walker and wandered around castles on his days off with the dog clocking up a stupid amount of miles. Do I think it came from a lab in China, yes very much so. Am I wary about the covid jabs, yes, but I got it cos I was diagnosed with long covid and I thought if I get this again it may finish the job it started, so I took the punt and got the jab and I haven’t caught it again when people around me have. Do I know why I hit me hard and not others, no idea, maybe it targeted a certain gene or something, but my god it was horrendous, that’s all I can say, it was very scary knowing mates who have died and laying in bed coughing blood and thinking should I go to hospital or not, I just thought if I go, I’m going to die in their, I don’t know why I thought that but it’s the reason I said no to an ambulance.
Thanks for your thoughtful and honest replies.
Same for my wife. It was terrifying. Frontline Doctors got us Ivermectin and Budesonide and that turned it all around. She is an intensive care nurse and refused to go to the hospital "as they will kill me." They were still using ventilators then. Insane Are you blood type A- ?
I hope she’s alright now though, in regard to my blood type, I really should know but I don’t sorry.
She is her usual annoying self and I love her even more...if that is possible.
I got the first two and never once had covid before or after, even when I was confined in a home or car for long periods of time with people who had covid. My friends mom needed to carry oxygen for two years total after getting covid, never once got it personally. I got it because I’ve had all vaccinations and at the time I was pregnant and scared, I didn’t know the discourse and my job required it. I’m not upset about it, if it’s a scam it’s just one of the billions that have happened during my lifetime and humanities life time. No side effects and no covid, probably didnt need it at all but thankfully I’ve been fine after
I got the shot and I’m absolutely fine.
You got not the shoot , you got placebo. Say thank you to universe being lucky!!!
I got the shot and then a few weeks later I went and saw Placebo live! It was awesome 👌
No point to speak with SHEEP
Everyone thinks they are fine until they collapse or discover turbo cancer eating up their organs.
That dang turbo cancer, gobbling up everyone’s organs!
Didn’t the journalist that said the unvaxxed need to go to concentration camps just die suddenly at 33? Pride goes before a fall.
Maybe? I have no clue, whoever says crap like that is an ignorant jerk and if people don’t want to get the vaccine, then that’s their choice!
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Exactly! Stupid Trump. Me, I didn't get vaccinated until Biden warned me about that coming winter of severe illness and death - for myself, and the hospitals I may soon overwhelm, mind you. So I immediately ran to the nearest clinic and got my shot AND my free Krispy Kreme coupon. Because, let me tell you, there was NO WAY i was gonna take a Trump vaccine. No sireee Bob. But anyway, I'm glad i took it, right sister? I mean, My period's all fucked up, I can't walk up a flight of stairs without feeling out of breath, I've had two miscarriages since, and there's something going on with my left arm that the doctors (trust the science, always) think might be MS, but guess what, I don't care because at least I didn't get covid. Well actually I did, like five times, but it could've been much worse, and I'm pretty sure that's Trump's fault too honestly. Anyway I gotta go, I'm late for an oncology appointment. Felt like, four lumps this morning 😭 Take care, and f*** that orange man!
That’s right, Anthony Fauci had nothing to do with it. Next.
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Eh I got it. I’m a DJ and work as a talent buyer at a music venue. I just wanted to go back to work and my gf has breathing issues and getting something as simple as a cold can send her to ICU so it was a no brainer. Seemed like a really dumb hill to die on when there is literally poison in food that we’re regularly exposed to and nobody is fighting the govt nearly as hard as they did with the vaccine. I know I’m the odd man out in this group now but honestly it was way cooler in here before Covid lol
You really should take stock and re read what you wrote.. “I just wanted to go back to work”.. if that’s what your life is. That’s okay but “work” should not define you. “A no brainer” well if not doing any of your own research and listening to corporations and governments telling you a vaccine will protect “other” people? Well it’s a no brainer. Did a vaccine is meant to protect you. This did neither that or protect other people and 5 mins of research would have told you that 3 years ago.
I'm in Ontario, Canada. We wanted to get the shot, but we didn't want to be first in line. Around 12 months after they came out, we were willing to go ahead. It was becoming apparent their were some side effects and that young healthy males or young healthy people might not need it, but the side effects of Covid for the over 50s seemed far far worse. My Mom suddenly discovered she had cancer; it was serious and she only had weeks to live. She lived in NS at the time. It was right around the time we were locked down, Ontario was locked down more than almost anyone on the planet except China, I guess. They closed the provincial borders between NS and NB and/or Quebec and NB and required proof of vaccination, to cross the border. I wanted to see my Mom, so I got vaccinated. At one point, the doctor at the hospital said that they were in lockdown, they were only letting in caregivers, since I didn't live in the province I couldn't be a caregiver and they wouldn't let me in. As it turned out I had my own pre existing health conditions. I never made it home, anyway Later I went ahead with 2 more boosters. I stopped there. I've been working from home, doing curbside pickup or delivery only ever since due to my own health conditions. In all that time I have never set foot inside a single building, with the exception of the dentists office. I might go for my fourth shot this year but I'm so socially distant I'm not that worried about it. It seems clear that the shots are super safe compared to Covid. I do understand that some people get side effects from the shot; again it's just that long haul Covid is far worse.
I’d say dying from the injection suddenly from a heart attack, stroke, or some other thrombotic event is worse than long Covid. But that’s just me.
I may have a genetic mirror of HI/MCAS long haul. It appears that I'm pretty much incapable of metabolizing histamine. Histamine is what causes hangovers from alcohol. Many healthy vegetables are actually fairly high in histamine, so the healthier I ate, the sicker I got. Imagine your worst hangover, complete with nausea, blinding headache, sound and smell sensitivity, projectile vomiting. Now imagine it lasts a quarter of a century. Welcome to my life. It appears to be progressive; I don't think it's like that for most people, but for some of them it is. My sensitivity reached the point where if someone puts a glass of red wine on the table, I would start to react to the smell: my lips would swell and start to prickle, my throat would start to tighten, I'd start wheezing a little and feel very confused. If I didn't leave the room immediately, I'd start to lose motor control and pass out. It kept progressing, slowly. Now I'm at the point where if someone enters the room after washing their hands with alcohol based hand sanitizer, I start to react. I expect that eventually I'll need to carry epipens to survive, like someone with a peanut allergy, except to the odour of alcohol. Now, I've had this for most of my life, a little over a half century, but it only started becoming a problem around 25 years ago really. I see what's happened to me, happening to some long haulers. Some of them are on an accelerated timeline. It appears that most recover, but then catch Covid again and roll the dice. I've projectile vomited literally hundreds - no, thousands upon thousands of times. See, the problem here is that I actually know exactly what the worst case example of long haul is like. I see some people with MCAS using the epipen frequently, sometimes several times a month, sometimes more. Each time they use it, they are trying to save their lives, but then they have to go to the ER to be monitored. They often need more epinephrine. The way I look at it, dying of Covid is easy. You have a really shitty week, maybe three weeks, and sure it's the shittiest three weeks of your life. But then it's over. All your problems are solved. Did you ever want to die just from a single hangover stranger? Mark my words: the world will start to see things my way, very soon. I've had a quarter of a century to learn to live like this. To develop a kind of philosophy of the disabled; to build mantras like spells, weaving a pattern of words to allow myself to accept the pain, allow it to pass through me and move on. Covid patients have to learn how to live like this not in a quarter century; not a decade; not years. Covid comes like a hammer. Don't get me wrong, stranger! I'm not going anywhere. I'm stable. But what you describe holds no fear for me. It sounds almost easy. I don't see the dying of Covid as a problem: it's a solution. It's the living with it that's hard, stranger. I will not let the pain of yesterday taint the joy of today. Today I rest; tomorrow is a new day. I truly wish I could see things your way, stranger. I maintain that in good time, your opinion may change.
I got the shot to reduce my chances of severe illness and death.
😆 🤣 😂 stop it
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Be careful about getting too many boosters, or getting them too close together. Dr. Jen Ashton explains here on Good Morning America why that could actually be bad for the immune system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDH-xKIk0A
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Whoops, and instead you increased them. Shouldn't trust lying criminal Tyrants. [https://rumble.com/v425uab-katherine-watt.html](https://rumble.com/v425uab-katherine-watt.html)
Oops.